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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:25:28 am 
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I have a question to pass on from a member of the American Belgian Philatelic Society concerning the 1945 reprints of Belgium early issues from #1 to #25. Does anyone have any information on the prupose, quantity and distribution of the reprints?
Some earlier issues of COB mention numbers 1 and 2, but that's all we know. I have no stamps to post pictures of, so that won't help.
Do any of you Belgian members know anything about this?

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I looked in the Prinet specialized catalog of Belgium and
found nothing like what you describe.

Do you know why they're called "Eisenhower" reprints?


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Doug: No! Intriguing, isn't it? I am looking into it further and will post what info I can find in a few days. I am given to understand that Ike had them "reprinted" for some reason in 1945, No 1 thru 25, and we are trying to find out why, how many of each, and how were they distributed. My COB is from 1997 ( my collection ends with the death of King Baudouin) and it doesn't mention them, but I'm told earlier editions did (at one time) but only numbers 1 and 2.
I love a good mystery, and this is ALMOST as good as one of the Uglies!

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Belgium #1, 2, and 3 were reprinted into a souvenir sheet
in 1949; it is listed in Prinet and mentioned in Scott.


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doug2222usa wrote:
I looked in the Prinet specialized catalog of Belgium and
found nothing like what you describe.

Do you know why they're called "Eisenhower" reprints?


Eisenhower was of course the "Supreme Commander" of the Allied Forces...so directives would emanate from Supreme Allied HQ, in other words his office...probably not his idea, he would just sign-off on the orders, but as titular figurehead his name goes on them...

As for why they were made, this is a long-shot and maybe I'm being too imaginative, but here goes:

In the 1930's, when many people were emigrating from Europe, they needed something portable to convert their wealth into...Germany had severe restrictions on buying foreign currency (see for instance Adam Tooze 'Wages of Destruction'), don't know about other countries; gold or silver jewelery, bars or coins could be bulky and conspicuous (everyone knows what gold looks like), and art or antiques would be even bulkier. Stamps were small and easy to carry, they could even be smuggled if need be (Herman Hearst discusses this in his memoir 'Nassau Street'). Many people fleeing Germany would sell all their assets, buy some stamps and carry the stamps to America, then sell them to dealers. The dealers apparently operated a busy trade, then mailing those stamps back to Europe making sales to dealers in Germany, and the cycle begins again.

So, to my theory...what if a similar movement of refugees was projected at war's end? During the war years in Germany, many people were earning good salaries in the war economy, but being a war economy, there was nothing to buy (no consumer goods, factory production all focused on military materials). Thus, banks held enormous amounts of savings. These of course were entirely in Nazi-era Deutchesmarks, which would become worthless with the end of the war and collapse of the government. So, everyone would be looking to get their money *out* of cash and *into* a commodity which could be converted at a later date into the new currency.

What if the Allied HQ projected this, and wanted to negatively influence this, some sort of punishment to the Germans...produce a bunch of reprints of classic stamps, distribute them in the market, people buy them thinking they've safely hedged their money, then at a later date they're told be dealers 'sorry this looks like a forgery/reprint with little/no value'.

And for those who are thinking 'oh, Allied HQ would have more important things, military things, to be thinking about, consider the attention given to artworks and historic buildings ('The Rape of Europa', Lynn Nicholas). An entire department staffed with army officers with Art History backgrounds was created, with officers posted to the front line, driving around in jeeps (using scarce fuel rations) immediately after liberation of territory, checking on the status of thousands of famous paintings and buildings, lists of which had been drawn up in advance.

Strangely however, it is being said that there is no mention of this in specialized catalogues, so maybe its an anecdotal story that never really occured?

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Further info which just came to me:
In 1945 the Belgian Government made the reprints of the early issues to honor both Eisenhower and the allies for liberating Belgium. The stamps which they reprinted were COB numbers 1/2. 13/16, 17/21 and 23/25.

So now we know why they were done, and which stamps were reprinted.
Does anyone know what happened to them? What kind of paper were they on (it must have been different) and how were they given out?

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These are sometimes also called Eisenhower-Montgomery reprints.And it is said that in 1945 they were given to some officials which had helped in the liberation of Belgium.(Remark :I write "it is said"!because there remain still a few mysteries-see below)

The reprint was made on medium-thickness white corrugated paper.
Some eminent philatelists prefer reproduction instead of reprint,because the stamps were made on new reconstructed plates of 50 ex.made from a subdie(so a die from the initial die) with all its own characteristics (ref.J.Stes:" Descriptive catalogue of the proofs of Belgian stamps")
The characteristics are thus slightly different from the original proofs.
This reprint has been made on all stamps from No 1 Epaulette until no52 (yes !)
Only stamp no 37 and 49 were not reprinted.
All stamps from No 17 until No52 were on GUMMED paper ,the other ones (1-16) without gum.
The number of copies of this reprint is 50(but an auctionneer mentioned 35 and another 200 !)
I think it is 50.The new catalogue OCB 2012 mentions them now and even speaks of 400ex-but this is wrong .Value in euro's 1-2=1000€; 26-36:9000;46-52:4500
And this is confirmed by the prices they reach in recent auctions.

But there remains a mystery: I haven't find yet any reference or proof to where and when they were made and if they were actually given to Eisenhower etc.
Nowhere in philatelic litterature of the fourties or fifties I find something about this.
The Balasse Specialized Catalogue of 1949 which is THE reference work for belgian philatelists doesn't mention them (1929 are the last reprints).And I find no trace of an official visit of Eisenhower in 1945;only that he was in Antwerp on his way to Bastogne (Battle of the Bulge)
Besides these reprints,although scarcely,start appearing as from the '80ties....
So the mystery remains...
I have some nice scans of this reprint but I donot know how they can be put here.
Hope this gives some light !

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Interesting story - tutorial on how to post scans:

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=284


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I recently found a packet of stamps with "Eisenhower Montgomery" written on it. The packet was in a large (25+kg) unsorted auction lot of "junk" stamps. Inside the packet were 39 mint imperf early Belgium reprints/reproductions, photo certificates for all 39 stamps signed by Jean Baete/Member de l'Association Internationale des Experts Philateliques dated 21/3/1990, and a handwritten note stating "Belgium 1945 complete set of 39 reprints mint gummed or ungummed as issued, LH"

The Scott Catalogue lists 41 face different (color/design/denomination) issued by Belgium through the year 1891. The 5fr and the 35c were not included in this set of reproductions.

Does anyone know auction realizations for any of these interesting reproductions?


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Based on David Feldman,Williame-Belgium,and Antverpia stamps(Belgium) results,these reprints reach aprox.30 to 35 % of Official Belgian Catalogue value(+approx. 18 % costs)
But prices are rising.
The 5 Fr and 35 ct was not reprinted;so your set is complete and with the Baete certificate(forerunner of Williame auctions)can give you a serious premium.
OCB values (2012)
1-2:1000 euros
13-16: 2000 eu
17-21:2000 eu
23-25:1200 eu
26-36: 9000 eu (no 37)
38-41: 3000 eu
42-45: 2500 eu
46-52:4500 eu (no49)
complete sets are very rare and give a serious surplus value.
Nice junk I must say.


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GeorgeM wrote:
I recently found a packet of stamps with "Eisenhower Montgomery" written on it.

George,

Love to see a scan of the stamps - and the packet :wink:


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janssepa,

Thank you for your reply and the excellent information you provided. Would you be able to estimate a percentage increase of auction realization because of these being a complete set with certificates?

Thanks again, George


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gavin-h wrote:
GeorgeM wrote:
I recently found a packet of stamps with "Eisenhower Montgomery" written on it.

George,

Love to see a scan of the stamps - and the packet :wink:


The packet was made by a dealer or collector and is the cut off bottom half of a double sided Vario 1S page. One side contains 7 photo certificates The. other side contains 7 approval cards with the corresponding reproductions. The stamps are LH and in mounting strips inserted onto the approval cards. There is a gummed label attached to the outside of the packet with a handwritten description of the contents. None of the packet itself is original to the 1945 issuance.

The stamps are all imperf with bright colors and sharp designs. The first 6 stamps, plus one other, have a large (approximately 5cm) margin on one side. There may be minor design differences from the original issue, but I do not have a set of the original printings for comparison.

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