Postage Stamp Chat Board & Stamp Bulletin Board Forum
 

Ian,
What is interesting in that circular is that there is no reference to anything issued after 2004. Does this mean that newer items are therefore legal, or what?
For your information, all of my Benin issues are post 2004, but I have taken them off Delcampe anyway.

I chose Benin as, as it turned out, a poor example. As that circular was issued on 2 February 2004 it would be unlikely to have anything later in it, but that only proves that you have read through my post but not the links I referred you to.

Here's the link to a Benin circular in 2006 http://www.upu.int/document/2006/an/bi_ ... es/286.pdf

This is the list on the UPU website, just since 2006 (others are there):

2011

Circular No. 219 – Tanzania (United Rep.) – Illegal postage stamps 2011
Circular No. 220 – Uganda – Illegal postage stamps

2010

Circular No. 008 – Slovenia
Circular No. 024 – Korea Rep.
Circular No. 038 – Preserve the Polar Regions and Glaciers
Circular No. 092 - Rwanda
Circular No. 093 – United Nations Postal Administration
Circular No. 094 – The International Year of Biodiversity
Circular No. 143 – Korea Rep.
Circular No. 154 – Netherlands
Circular No. 238 – Stamp to mark 30 years of living with AIDS
Circular No. 287 – Russian Federation – Counterfeit postage stamps

2009

Circular No. 059 – Malawi
Circular No. 060 – Azerbaijan
Circular No. 061 – Uzbekistan
Circular No. 080 – Croatia
Circular No. 117 – Brazil
Circular No. 146 – Hongkong, China
Circular No. 148 – HIV Campaign
Circular No. 153 – Korea Rep.
Circular No. 190 – Cameroon Document: Acrobat B
Circular No. 192 – New Zealand
Circular No. 197 – Afghanistan
Circular No. 198 – Morocco
Circular No. 217 – FIFA
Circular No. 252 – Rwanda (Rep.)

2008

Circular No. 030 – Hong Kong, China
Circular No. 034 – France
Circular No. 071 – Morocco
Circular No. 124 – Slovakia
Circular No. 125 – Slovakia
Circular No. 132 – International Bureau
Circular No. 193 – Madagascar
Circular No. 208 – Mozambique
Circular No. 212 – Korea (Rep.)
Circular No. 294 – Aruba
Circular No. 321 – Slovakia

2007

Circular No. 002 – Slovenia
Circular No. 074 – Tanzania (United Rep.)
Circular No. 081 – Slovenia
Circular No. 130 – Malawi
Circular No. 140 – Comoros
Circular No. 141 – United Arab Emirates
Circular No. 154 – Slovakia
Circular No. 155 – Hungary
Circular No. 166 – Letter Post Regulations
Circular No. 177 – Afghanistan
Circular No. 197 – Hungary
Circular No. 198 – Rwanda
Circular No. 199 – Cyprus
Circular No. 200 – Estonia
Circular No. 228 – Hungary
Circular No. 338 – Turkey
Circular No. 400 – Israel

2006

Circular No. 060 - PostEurop
Circular No. 122 - Morocco
Circular No. 192 - Azerbaijan
Circular No. 282 - Croatia
Circular No. 286 - Benin
Circular No. 287 - Korea (Rep.)
Circular No. 338 - Canada
Circular No. 343 - Myanmar
Circular No. 389 - Netherlands Antilles
Circular No. 390 - Hong Kong, China


Go on, amuse yourself, take a look at these. You see the problem of illegals is not a small one, as witness the number of countries which are affected and the number of different subjects on the 'stamps' produced in their name.

I chose Benin at random - and was surprised at the extent of the problem, and that I couldn't even post the list all in one message as it exceeded the character count for the board software (hence the 'continued' post).

_________________
Ian Billings - Norvic Philatelics GB stamps info: http://www.norphil.co.uk - also /catalog for our ecommerce site, blog.norphil.co.uk, shop.norphil.co.uk and Ian_norvic on twitter

Trying to stay on topic here - I did not see any UPU bulletins about Angola or Cabinda.

We're still following the thread pursued by the original poster, as it wandered into what he is offering for sale. But you're right, there doesn't appear to be anything from Angola: one wouldn't expect anything from Cabinda of course.

_________________
Ian Billings - Norvic Philatelics GB stamps info: http://www.norphil.co.uk - also /catalog for our ecommerce site, blog.norphil.co.uk, shop.norphil.co.uk and Ian_norvic on twitter

"toschka wrote:
I think Member389845 protesteth too much.

Spot the genuine stamps in his Delcampe store

1751 items from S. Tome & Principe
1901 items from Guinea-Bissau"

As Ian correctly suggested that I go to catalogues to check as to whether items are legal or not, I suggest that you "aethelwolf" and any others interested to do what I do.
Go to the website of Neofila http://www.neofila.com/
go into Price lists, go to Guinea Bissau, or Sao Tome or many others and you'll find catalogue references to nearly every item (Michel, Yvert, BOB etc).

member389845: How is it possible you do not know enough about stamps to spot what are obviously non postage emissions. I means with this stuff there can be little doubt even without resort to a catalog. However, I would also add anyone who buys that junk for good money, knows what they are getting. I never use Delcampe, are they filled with this kind of trash?

They say not - add a post here if you disagree -

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=34703

And like eBay, they depend on watchers to report items that are wrong; unlike eBay they take more action.

_________________
Ian Billings - Norvic Philatelics GB stamps info: http://www.norphil.co.uk - also /catalog for our ecommerce site, blog.norphil.co.uk, shop.norphil.co.uk and Ian_norvic on twitter

I had a Delcampe account there have't use it in years, says I have been a member 8 years when I logged on. First item they feature on their home page is some 1980 Paraguay "muestra" SS.

A search for Cabinda does not disappoint, brings up three totally bogus issues, scammer wants big money for them too. But at least we know where they come from now - Belarus. And I suspect they are printed there too.

Yep, Cabinda made in Belarus:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterflies-Ins ... 33754fe25f

Now that is an impressive amount of paper! It must cost a fair amount to print all this stuff, advertise it and put it on the market. Someone must be confident of getting enough sales to cover all the costs. And why pick on Benin? Isn't some law being broken here?
Maybe I should buy a printing machine and start issuing stamps for the Republic of Finchland; any takers?!!

Maybe I should buy a printing machine and start issuing stamps for the Republic of Finchland; any takers?!!

No don't bother, you'd get better feedback( and possibly sales) with Seremban Local Post.

I'll have a chat with the local postmaster!

To wander slightly off-topic for a moment, when I scrolled through norvic's list I saw "the usual suspects", but this one caught my eye


It turned out to be a memo advising that an issue of stamps were simply inscribed "domestic postage" and "airmail postage". Akin to "Forever" stamps. I've used them on mail recently--drives the clerks crazy to figure out what the stamps are.

So not everything a circular is an "illegal", but for sure the vast majority would be, and definitely coming from collector-dependent/easily-preyed-upon developing countries.

_________________
Collecting Mongolia; Thailand; Indo-China; Mourning Covers; OHMS.
My online 'store': http://stampsfromaethelwulf.blogspot.com/

Just a Quick note on the Republic of Cabinda Stamps.

I need to make it clear the following.

The first person using the name of Republic of Cabinda may well have been either Mr Antonio Lopes or my Self Mangovo Ngoyo.

We have decided to change the name to Cabinda Free State as we have serious concerns on a republic system, as we are more inclined to a Constitutional Monarchy System such as the British Crown.

Concerning the claims here in this forum by Mr. LHJ which is no other we suspect than Mr. Jonathan H Levy. We official, and by writing terminated any association or connection with Mr Jonathan H Levy on the 16 November 2006.

Mr Levy obviously was notified.

Concerning Cabinda selling Stamps on Ebay that misleading remark by Mr Levy here in this forum is misleading and a clear Lie.

We never sold nor we intend to sell any Stamps or Coins of Cabinda on Ebay, for those who have visited our sites it clearly states what we think of Ebay in this regards.

There are hundreds of Coins and Stamps supposedly from Cabinda which are total fakes.

Concerning the first emergency issue of Cabinda Stamps over marked on Angolan Unita Stamps. From those we receive a one time small parcel but failed to receive any more nor we have ever received a 5% commission.

Funny and oddly enough the package was sent to us by Mr Levy, and I wonder why if they supposedly where issued by Mr Clive in the UK, did Mr Levy took an unauthorized cut. I guess we can only suppose, or maybe Mr Levy who is a Persona Non Grata to us may come clean on this regards.

Any Philatelist wishing to know more about genuine issues of Cabinda Stamps we will be more than happy to assist.

Concerning the comments of Mr. Jonathan H Levy in this Forum, we invite Mr. Levy to end, and cease to act in a vingative, irresponsible, misleading, offensive and demeanour way.

I hope, to have helped shed some light on this issue.

Mangovo Ngoyo
"Shall there be Dragons"

_________________
Best regards,
Mangovo Ngoyo

"You know who you are and so does God"

Now I know we're in La La Land.

Googling the name of this new member shows that he appears to have several aliases and is alleged to be pretending to be a Mason.

See http://www.masonicinfo.com/rgle.htm

And apparently associated with a company with > $100m annual turnover in uncut diamonds (I'm assuming this is US$ as this is a regular website, although it could be Zimbabwean so worth pennies. (Oh that figure may include superfine copper powder - or that may be a separate $100m produced by the same or different >1000 people in the 100,000 Sq m production facility employing over 50 people in R & D and another 50 in QC, and exporting only 71-80% of their output. I wonder who uses the other 20%?)

Googling the name of Jonathan H Levy (with Cabinda) shows much more - if anybody really has the time to waste.

Of course one shouldn't believe everything on the www, especially places like Facebook and Wikipedia, but it makes interesting reading.

_________________
Ian Billings - Norvic Philatelics GB stamps info: http://www.norphil.co.uk - also /catalog for our ecommerce site, blog.norphil.co.uk, shop.norphil.co.uk and Ian_norvic on twitter

If you really want to see what is going on in Cabinda etc. La-La Land I suggest you go to : http://www.africastamps.org

There you will see the new stamps of Newly "Emerging" States, 6 in Africa and 3 in America.

What more can we wish for.

Seems like these jam labels are getting even more folks into a lather.

Now I see and hear about folks waffling on re legal action, and phoning other members, and apparently being someone acting under false pretences and ID anyway, I've had enough of this nonsense.

Go and sue each other please, and get each other's wallpaper labels taken off ebay etc, and keep stampboards out of it.

Thread locked.

Whatever can be written on Cabinda Cinderellas has been written above, I am sure.

Thanks