Share Your Britain Used In Ireland Stamp and Cover Images

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:50:47 pm

I have looked over the board and I have not seen a thread dealing with the the stamps of Great Britain used in Ireland. I have recently started collecting this area and I have not found many examples. In fact, all of the examples in my meager collection have been discovered by accident. Even recent British stamps used in Northern Ireland are near impossible to find here.

To get the ball rolling, here are two examples from my collection

Unidentified KEVII (I never could figure out the printings) with POYTNZPASS, ARMAGH cancel

Great Britain S.G. 80 with "445" diamond cancel. I think it is Waterford.

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:31:17 am

Enniscorthy on another KEVII

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:10:19 am

Ballyclare cancel on a De La Rue KEVII (221-224...I can't determine the shade)

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Fri Jan 15, 2010 13:18:03 pm

"Cork" on S.G. 167
Plus a pin hole underneath "A" of "POSTAGE" :lol:

Marcel · **Posted:** Sat Jan 16, 2010 00:25:48 am

Flying Tiger wrote:

"Cork" on S.G. 167
Plus a pin hole underneath "A" of "POSTAGE" :lol:

County Cork! Yay! ~

I should probably change my avatar to your stamp Jay :mrgreen:

Here's some pictures of the GB stamps used in Ireland that I found in one of the local dealers:

Thought you might be interested

dporter-stamps · **Posted:** Sun Jan 17, 2010 00:17:21 am

Here's a few of mine, i have been collecting them for a good few years, they are are hard to get, though they do come up sometimes on Ebay.

dporter-stamps · **Posted:** Sun Jan 17, 2010 00:25:13 am

A few more

dporter-stamps · **Posted:** Sun Jan 17, 2010 00:28:17 am

More .............

have another page full, will scan them & post them later

dporter-stamps · **Posted:** Sun Jan 17, 2010 00:59:53 am

again ....

Marcel · **Posted:** Sun Jan 17, 2010 04:57:15 am

Wow!

What a great collection you have there dporter!
Superb!

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Sun Jan 17, 2010 09:38:56 am

NICE STAMPS, Dporter!!!

dporter-stamps · **Posted:** Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:16:30 am

a few more ......

chavander · **Posted:** Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:34:24 am

From my own GB used in Ireland collection

SG 58 6d. mauve embossed,4 margins, cancelled by a Dublin, Ireland spoon in black

chavander · **Posted:** Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:50:53 am

From my own GB used in Ireland collection

SG 57 10d. brown embossed,4 margin,cancelled by the 179 irish diamond numeral of Drogheda,County Louth,Ireland

chavander · **Posted:** Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:58:14 am

From my own GB used in Ireland collection

SG 55 1/- green,3 margin,cancelled by a green Cork spoon

nolimitsstamps · **Posted:** Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:39:13 am

'Collect British Postmarks' by Whitney has a concordance of the numbers and the towns they represent for Ireland (as well as Scotland, England and Wales).

I don't collect Britain, but this book is invaluable for writing up lots. A single sale can easily pay the cost of the book. It's simply packed with information.

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Thu Jul 15, 2010 15:13:08 pm

Chavander- Those are nice embossed examples. Sadly, the embossed issues are missing from my collection. By the way, that is a nice avatar choice.

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Thu Jul 15, 2010 15:16:01 pm

nolimitsstamps wrote:

'Collect British Postmarks' by Whitney has a concordance of the numbers and the towns they represent for Ireland (as well as Scotland, England and Wales).

I don't collect Britain, but this book is invaluable for writing up lots. A single sale can easily pay the cost of the book. It's simply packed with information.

That is a valuable resource. Unfortunately, my copy disappeared some time ago! I did however, manage to compose an Excel spreadsheet showing what I believe to be correct numeral cancels for Ireland.

asmodeus · **Posted:** Thu Jul 15, 2010 15:19:39 pm

I have got a few more stamps used in Ireland, but at the moment I am in hospital and can´t scan my stamps, but I have got a few pcs on my photobucket server....

Strip of three used in Ireland

Maltese cross of Dublin

chavander · **Posted:** Thu Jul 15, 2010 18:31:44 pm

Kingstown 1d.red star pl 49 sg 40/41

Kingstown,Dublin,Ireland

"continental french" style trial double ring cancellation with diamond numeral (289)
This cancellation only used here and Enniskillen (214) mentioned in Wright and Creek "Postmarks of the British Isles 1840 - 1876" with illustrations pages 112/113

Bought for a couple of pounds off ebay recently, stamp is relatively common but post mark is certainly not, as a GB used in ireland collector i consider this to be a real "find" and is the only one i have seen anywhere for years.

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Fri Jul 16, 2010 02:45:14 am

Amazing what a little bit of knowledge can do. I really need to update my catalogs and add to my library. With my ignorance, I would have probably passed on the item. Interesting find!

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Fri Jul 16, 2010 02:48:55 am

asmodeus wrote:

I have got a few more stamps used in Ireland, but at the moment I am in hospital and can´t scan my stamps, but I have got a few pcs on my photobucket server....

Strip of three used in Ireland

Maltese cross of Dublin

Nice examples!

machin head · **Posted:** Fri Jul 16, 2010 17:12:19 pm

Some great stamps there and so carefully cancelled!

.

ScotsmanAbroad · **Posted:** Fri Jul 16, 2010 18:15:45 pm

The bottom right stamp is cancelled in Moville, Ireland. I'm sure I have a few Victorian covers from Ireland....I'll have a search.

chavander · **Posted:** Sat Jul 17, 2010 05:35:34 am

Your right scotsmanabroad Moville is at the northenmost tip of Ireland on the Inishowen Peninsula in County Donegal and is a very picturesque town
In the second half of the 19th century, Moville was a significant point of embarkation for many travellers, especially emigrants, to Canada and the United States of America. Steamships of the Anchor Line, of Glasgow, and others en-route from Glasgow to New York City regularly called at Moville to pick up additional passengers,again most were emmigrants
You will notice the Moville 1/- green is cancelled with a cds dated in 1872 as are a lot of stamps shown on the "gb used in ireland" forum, the vast majority of these stamps with this type of cds are not postally used stamps, but i believe, are postage stamps of that era used on telegraphic forms with telegraphic cancellations and soaked off of telegraphic forms and sold (illegaly) to the public as "postage stamps"
This is probably a direct result of stamp dealer Charles Nissen who in the late 19th century was buying (illegally) telegraph forms from an Essex paper mill where they had been sent to be destroyed as the law required, a sort of victorian "data protection act", and removed the stamps presumably selling them through his stamp dealing business, with no mention as far as i am aware where they came from and what they were used for, and discovered "the Stock Exchange Forgery" of a 1/- green on 1872 telegraph forms from previous (illegal) purchases,eventually he reported this find to the GPO, but how many stamps of all values then in use had he removed from the telegraph forms and sold on?
He did i believe get the GPO permission to search literally 1000`s of forms used in 1872 (and earlier and later) in search of this forgery and maybe others of other values which involved removing stamps to check for watermarks this is how he found the forged 1/- green which had no watermark, but no other values were found,only 1/- green plates 5 and 6, and this begs the question what happended to all the other stamps of all values that somehow found their way into the public domain? well i will tell you they are in collections and dealers stock and auction lots they are everywhere in fact and how do you tell them from postally used examples, suspect any stamp that was in use in 1872 with various dates in 1872 it apears as singles, pairs and blocks, occasionally dated 1871 or 1873 but 99% 1872 with the tell tale full or nearly so cds with no sign of the other half of the postally used duplex cancellations, on pairs and blocks each stamp cancelled with the full cds no sign of any type of barred cancellation, that goes for the whole of GB Scotland,England,Ireland and Wales.
I will post more on this later so thats all for now, i know there was another big find of telegraph forms in 1909/10 and stamps again found there way to the public of a later date than 1872 including all the high value victorian stamps £5 £1 10/- 5/- and so on...chavander

ScotsmanAbroad · **Posted:** Sat Jul 17, 2010 13:34:52 pm

Great info, Chavander. There is a small mention about this in the new 2010 GB Concise. So, the bottom 3 stamps are all telegraphically used....I like a story to go with my stamps, cheers

chavander · **Posted:** Tue Jul 20, 2010 09:09:53 am

sg 3 1d. grey-black plate 8 3½ margins lettered K-B canceled with a fine upright black maltese cross of Killeshandra, County Cavan,Ireland.

Back-stamped with a Killeshandra double arc cds for JU 9 1841 and a red diamond Dublin receiving mark for JU 10 1841

From my own collection...chavander

chavander · **Posted:** Tue Jul 20, 2010 09:14:48 am

and the back-stamps on reverse

chavander · **Posted:** Tue Jul 20, 2010 09:19:13 am

And a close-up of the stamp and cancellation

More to follow...chavander

Spencer · **Posted:** Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:05:43 am

It's taken me eight years to form a collection of just twelve GB newspaper wrappers used in Ireland. They are much more difficult to find than stamps. Two examples are shown here

Spencer · **Posted:** Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:18:13 am

One more newspaper wrapper - used Dublin to St Petersburg in Russia in 1902

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Tue Jul 20, 2010 15:07:03 pm

Spencer wrote:

One more newspaper wrapper - used Dublin to St Petersburg in Russia in 1902

That is an interesting destination. Is the address written in French?

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Tue Jul 20, 2010 15:08:16 pm

chavander wrote:

sg 3 1d. grey-black plate 8 3½ margins lettered K-B canceled with a fine upright black maltese cross of Killeshandra, County Cavan,Ireland.

Back-stamped with a Killeshandra double arc cds for JU 9 1841 and a red diamond Dublin receiving mark for JU 10 1841

From my own collection...chavander

Chavender,
you have some nice items in your collection!

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Mon Jul 26, 2010 03:53:46 am

Here are two stamps I recently picked up:

joelk · **Posted:** Mon Jul 26, 2010 07:24:32 am

A very modest contribution. I will look up the cancellations in the Whitney next weekend to see if I can dig some up in my collection. n the meantime, from a very geographically challenged philatelist: note these are all either Dublin or Belfast... :oops:

chavander · **Posted:** Mon Jul 26, 2010 09:53:32 am

Jay... nice pair actually the DONABATE cancel on the three halfpence brown which is about 20 miles north of Dublin is relatively scarce and not easy to find.

and joelk nothing wrong with collecting Dublin and Belfast cancels a good collection can be made up just using the 1d. lilacs or better still collecting Dublin cancels on the low value Jubilee issues, still plenty to be found,fairly cheaply.

Chavander

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:27:24 am

chavander wrote:

Jay... nice pair actually the DONABATE cancel on the three halfpence brown which is about 20 miles north of Dublin is relatively scarce and not easy to find.

and joelk nothing wrong with collecting Dublin and Belfast cancels a good collection can be made up just using the 1d. lilacs or better still collecting Dublin cancels on the low value Jubilee issues, still plenty to be found,fairly cheaply.

Chavander

Three times I have tried to comment and three times I have lost power due to a thunderstorm!!

Chavender, that is interesting information regarding the DONABATE cancel. I picked up that item yesterday for less than $1. Most dealers here do not charge a premium for cancellations. I have only been collecting Britain used in Ireland for maybe 8 months and I have found this area to be both challenging and fun. Also, the fact that Mrs. Flying Tiger is Irish helps in identifying Irish Towns

Joel, as Chavender mentioned, a nice collection of Dublin & Belfast cancels can be acquired. Your collection is looking quite nice.

joelk · **Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 08:35:34 am

Thank you Jay! I can't resist posting this one I just found. A modest stamp, but a truly beautiful cancel (in my opinion):

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:18:06 am

Nice BELFAST CDS on that Jubilee

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:22:38 am

LONDONDERRY CDS on the same Jubilee issue

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:24:15 am

DUBLIN CDS on a 4d Victoria Jubilee

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:27:11 am

POMEROY on a 1d KEVII

I am having better luck finding more Britain used in Ireland stamps :wink:

Now to find one like Chavender's avatar.

joelk · **Posted:** Mon Aug 23, 2010 01:55:57 am

Time to revive this thread. I got reunited with a long lost friend today (read, lots of stuff and not always sure where it is):

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Mon Aug 23, 2010 05:45:42 am

joelk wrote:

Time to revive this thread. I got reunited with a long lost friend today (read, lots of stuff and not always sure where it is):

Another nice "BELFAST" CDS.
Is it my imagination or have the perforations on the right side of the stamp been "enhanced"?

joelk · **Posted:** Mon Aug 23, 2010 06:01:31 am

Flying Tiger, I'd like to believe that's not the case, but who knows what happens in a 140 years history, since this stamp was printed? There are no traces of repairs when dipped in watermark fluid, but again, who knows?

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:21:10 am

Here is a KEVII used in Lusk, which is near Dublin

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:37:06 am

2½d KGVI definitive used somewhere in County Down, Northern Ireland.

josto · **Posted:** Tue Jan 11, 2011 05:02:58 am

Hi!

I sorted those out, which I thought could be irish postmarks. Am I right with these? I could also show detailed scans of single stamps. There is also a postally used fiscal stamp if I`m right.

Greetings

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:43:33 pm

It has been a while since I had anything to add to this thread.

Sallins, County Kildare

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:46:16 pm

Here is a pair of 1d KGV used in Timoleague, County Cork


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