Post your war or combat scenes on stamps

lithograving · **Posted:** Sun May 23, 2010 10:39:01 am

There have been a number of threads regarding various themes and topics on stamps therefore I thought why not one on war scenes on stamps.
Starting off with the German 1943 issue for Armed Forces/Hero's Day.
The Soviet Union also issued stamps during WWII showing their soldiers in action, if someone could post those stamps I would like to see them.

mrboggler · **Posted:** Sun May 23, 2010 14:42:21 pm

I know these stamps are there, because I sell them. I also collect WW11 Postal History Material,
but when one looks at the issuing countries,it seems to mostly be aggressive countries that love to depict WAR scenes on their stamps.

And as for the above German Set.there will be many members on this board who will still remember being at the other end of those type of attacks,

I am not saying don,t show them,but do we want to be reminded of mans inhumanity to man,
when there are so many other aspects of Philately we can learn about,

MargoZ · **Posted:** Sun May 23, 2010 15:16:26 pm

Picking up from Ron's point, the other side of the coin is the 'war memorial' theme in stamps.

I particularly like the NZ ANZAC series.

Intersting to note that USPS got into a spot of bother with their Korean war memorial stamps recently over copyright issues:

See http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=18886 for details

machin head · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 02:25:07 am

Considering the views expressed above, I hate War as much as any body, though i have never served in the armed forces i appreciate the sacrifice made by all combatants of all wars that have shaped our world and appreciate the peace, but the less savoury aspects of our history should not be swept under the carpet, all images and stories should be available to future generations to study - lest we forget....

now here are some battle scenes that changed history, the outcome of these events have affected us all :wink:

Global Administrator · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 02:37:23 am

A stamp celebrating PEACE is far more palatable.

I listed this 1945 one up here - http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=10732

A great design. :idea:

Draccae · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 02:55:15 am

My favorite war poppy - 2007, Great Britain, part of the 'Lest we Forget' stamps for the 90th Anniversary of the Battle of Passchendaele.

lithograving · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 04:00:48 am

mrboggler wrote:

I know these stamps are there, because I sell them. I also collect WW11 Postal History Material,
but when one looks at the issuing countries,it seems to mostly be aggressive countries that love to depict WAR scenes on their stamps.

And as for the above German Set.there will be many members on this board who will still remember being at the other end of those type of attacks,

I am not saying don,t show them,but do we want to be reminded of mans inhumanity to man,
when there are so many other aspects of Philately we can learn about,

Mrboggler, this is as you say another aspect of Philately, why censure it? Your comment it seems to mostly be aggressive countries that love to depict WAR scenes on their stamps.

Doesnt really wash either, since the USA has issued quite a lot of stamps depicting battles, wars etc for their Revolutionary War, Civil War, WWII, Korean War and so has Great Britain.

These stamps are part of history which happened over 65 years ago, I think we should be able to look at them without getting too emotional.

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 04:41:24 am

United States Scott 929

lithograving · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 04:47:46 am

Two from Canada

Global Administrator · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 04:53:47 am

lithograving wrote:

Mrboggler, this is as you say another aspect of Philately, why censure it? Your comment it seems to mostly be aggressive countries that love to depict WAR scenes on their stamps.

Doesn't really wash either, since the USA has issued quite a lot of stamps depicting battles, wars etc for their Revolutionary War, Civil War, WWII, Korean War and so has Great Britain.

Haven forbid that any of us might imagine the UK or the USA are aggressive countries in respect to Wars. :lol:

Probably a majority of the armed forces of each are out fighting totally un-winnable 'battles' 1000s of miles from home, and have been for decades. :idea:

lithograving · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 05:14:09 am

Global Administrator wrote:

lithograving wrote:

Mrboggler, this is as you say another aspect of Philately, why censure it? Your comment it seems to mostly be aggressive countries that love to depict WAR scenes on their stamps.

Doesn't really wash either, since the USA has issued quite a lot of stamps depicting battles, wars etc for their Revolutionary War, Civil War, WWII, Korean War and so has Great Britain.

Haven forbid that any of us might imagine the UK or the USA are aggressive countries in respect to Wars. :lol:

Probably a majority of the armed forces of each are out fighting totally un-winnable 'battles' 1000s of miles from home, and have been for decades. :idea:

I believe a lot people only consider the Germans and Russians aggressive because of their recent history.

I suppose the same people believe that the British Empire was created by passive wars and the Americans accumulated their real estate by being nice guys.

Mankind has fought battles & wars since humans first appeared and are still at it all over the globe. It's a fact of life one can't ignore.
Even those peaceful Swiss & Swedes have a violent past. The Swiss mercenaries where a force to be reckoned with and the Swedes were the scourge of central Europe during the Thirty Years War, raping, pillaging, burning & massacring civilians and annihilating whole towns all the way from the North Sea to Austria.

mrboggler · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 09:24:33 am

I was making the point that showing Death and destruction on stamps.especially resent conflict
may be a bit to close to home for some, :cry:

perhaps 100 years after the conflict when no one is alive to be too upset. :roll:

And I am in no way suggesting Censoring anything,and I am totally against it.
but perhaps someone should tell half of Europe,and Japan that that WW 11 actually happened as many who live there seem to deny that it in fact happened at all. :shock:

But back to the Thread,I think it is an interesting one to tackle,and should produce many pictures of Good old Wars of the past,
but perhaps instead of just posting 100,s of pics of WAR those who do could write a few lines as to the whys and wherefors that prompted such a WAR,or Battle,then we can THINK about why it happened,instead of just cheering wildly when the Cowboys start shooting all the Indians. :wink:

Brummie · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 11:32:32 am

Good idea MrB with a little write-up it would be more interesting.

Draccae that is a very well thought out stamp, just saw the poppy but on a closer look saw the soldiers inside, beautiful.

makielb · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 12:34:56 pm

Lithograving: Thanks for the image of Dieppe. My uncle was in the Canadian Black Watch that held the beach for eight hours that day. He spent the rest of the war in Germany, as a guest.

I'll have to keep an eye out for it at the next stamp show.

lithograving · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 15:59:13 pm

Canadian stamp series commemorating 50th Anniversary of WWII. Four stamps per year from 1989 to 1995 showing various battles Canadian troops participated in and Canada's contribution in material & armaments to the Allied war effort.
They stamps were well designed but would have looked even better if the centre black portions would have been engraved, instead of having printed it by lithography/offset

If you wish to read more regarding these stamps and about all Canadian stamps ever issued go to the Canadian Postal Archives site http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/020117/020117030403_e.html it is excellent and very informative.

Brummie · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 17:56:37 pm

Great site lithograving, thanks.

aethelwulf · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 18:36:18 pm

Another time the USA got themselves in hot water over a stamp design was the plan to include in the series on WWII a stamp depicting the atomic bombs dropped on Japan.

A stamp with a more progressive message, interestingly from behind the Iron Curtain:

Described on a website as: German Democratic Republic. Anti-nuclear stamp featuring a dove of peace. Probably issued in connection with the 3rd World Festival of Youth & Students for Peace (WFYS) which was attended by 26,000 participants from 104 countries. The fetival motto was "For Peace and Friendship - Against Nuclear Weapons."

lithograving · **Posted:** Wed May 26, 2010 13:59:38 pm

This is the second set showing the German Armed Forces in action during WW II, issued in 1944 for Heldengedenktag which loosely translates as Day of Commemoration of Heroes.
The whole set has a very modern look about it, compared to what other countries were producing at this time.

I think the Alpine Jaeger stamp below is a fine design in my opinion, as is the U boat Capitain

The one below was issued in 1942 to honour German soldiers killed in WWI and WWII

lithograving · **Posted:** Wed May 26, 2010 14:12:09 pm

Austrian souvenir sheet commemorating the siege of Vienna by Ottoman Turks in 1683.

I sure hope there is no one around alive 300 plus years after this conflict to take offense or be upset at me for showing this.

Close up showing the Turks getting ready to attack.

mrboggler · **Posted:** Wed May 26, 2010 14:37:25 pm

lithograving wrote:

Austrian souvenir sheet commemorating the siege of Vienna by Ottoman Turks in 1683.

I sure hope there is no one around alive 300 plus years after this conflict to take offense or be upset at me for showing this.

Funny you should mention that,,,, but my G.G.G.G.G.G,Grandfather was there.
Only Joking,,,, :lol:

But it is interesting that what we think we know about WARS is often FAR from the truth.
Are many people aware who was actually Fighting who, at the Battle of Culloden in Scotland in 1745,

when the Englanders Rolled the Scots,,,
have a guess without Googling.

lithograving · **Posted:** Wed May 26, 2010 15:00:44 pm

Funny you should mention the Battle of Culloden but without googling I believe it was fought in 1745 or thereabouts, certainly not 1775.

Actually I'm a fan of Scottish history just finished reading a couple of books about William Wallace. Two of my favourite books are by John Prebble The Lion in the North and Mutiny Highland regiments in Revolt 1743 - 1804

You being a Scot of course you must know that the Scots originally came from Ireland as did the bag pipes.

mrboggler · **Posted:** Wed May 26, 2010 15:25:37 pm

lithograving wrote:

Funny you should mention the Battle of Culloden but without googling I believe it was fought in 1745 or thereabouts, certainly not 1775.

Actually I'm a fan of Scottish history just finished reading a couple of books about William Wallace. Two of my favourite books are by John Prebble The Lion in the North and Mutiny Highland regiments in Revolt 1743 - 1804

You being a Scot of course you must know that the Scots originally came from Ireland as did the bag pipes.

You are of course correct 1745 where 75 came from I have no idea, :oops:

Typing fatigue, coupled with a heavy head cold is my excuse, :wink:

The answer to the above quirey is Scottish Regiments were on the English Side,
and Irish and French were on the Scottish side,

lithograving · **Posted:** Wed May 26, 2010 15:33:18 pm

Quote:

The answer to the above quirey is Scottish Regiments were on the English Side,
and Irish and French were on the Scottish side,

What I recall was that on the Pretenders side were mostly Highlanders, some Lowlanders, French and even some English.
On the English side were many lowlanders, some Highland regiments (fighting for the English because they let them wear kilts) and from Europe Hessians & Hannoverians since as you know the Duke of Cumberland was King George II son.
All in all it was tragic and the end of Scottish independence.
On the other hand the Scots got a lot better deal than the Irish.

Catweazle · **Posted:** Thu Jun 03, 2010 19:21:11 pm

A most interesting thread, and those German sets are actually a favourite of mine, even though I don't think War is a good thing and certainly do NOT behold the Nazis as my "idol". It's interesting - I know a few who fought in the German lines in WWII, and it just goes to show that not all of the German soldiers were Nazis, but were just regular humans, same as the Brits and other Allies. All Quiet on the Western Front is a terrific example of this, I'm sure you'll agree.

One of my favourite scenes in that film is the following...

Katczinsky: I'll tell you how it should all be done.
[spits]
Katczinsky: Whenever there's a big war comin' on, you should rope off a big field...
Cigar-smoking soldier: And sell tickets.
Katczinsky: Yeah. And -
[glares at interrupter]
Katczinsky: And on the big day, you should take all the kings and their cabinets and their generals, put 'em in the center dressed in their underpants, and let 'em fight it out with clubs. The best country wins.
:lol:

Of course, that probably wouldn't quite work as the spectators would just start fighting amongst themselves like the Croatians and the Serbians did at the tennis... and then you've got a war which you were trying to avoid. But it's a nice idea.

Speaking of which, do you know of any any stamps which depict this movie?

Here's some from DDR (East or West Germany?? I think that's East)

lithograving -- Here's a website with pics of many WWII-type Russian issues: http://www.stamprussia.com/ww2.htm

Some from that website (not very big though, unfortunately. It's always nice to see stamps blown up in massive scans):

lithograving wrote:

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Dunno exactly why, but that one reminds me of something from Tintin.

KevinHedley · **Posted:** Thu Jun 03, 2010 20:03:22 pm

My first contribution is on the peace side - it is from Russia and concerns the war against terrorism:

The second one addresses the theme of this thread:

Catweazle · **Posted:** Thu Jun 03, 2010 20:10:55 pm

KevinHedley wrote:

What are those chains at the front of the tank? Is it a sort of winch which pulls it out of the water?

KevinHedley · **Posted:** Thu Jun 03, 2010 20:23:15 pm

There were many variations on tanks developed in WW2.

From memory it is a flail tank. As the tank proceeded a roller rotated at the front and this caused the chains attached to the roller to swing out and strike the ground in front of the vehicle. The purpose was to detonate land-mines before they damaged the tracks or to clear a path for infantry.

BACK O BOURKE · **Joined:** Sun Sep 23, 2007 13:52:42 pm **Posts:** 1519

China...Jin Jin Cha Border Area 1938 soldier of the War Against Japanese Aggression.

birder · **Posted:** Sun Nov 06, 2011 03:10:47 am

Lovely thread.

The Battle of Chesma 1848 is commemorated by this Russian stamp in 1974:

birder · **Posted:** Sun Nov 06, 2011 03:14:01 am

The Vietnamese false propaganda stamp. Claiming to have shot down 4181 US aircraft.

The stamp depicts a US Airforce B-52 airccraft exploding in mid-air from ground fire.

gavin-h · **Posted:** Sun Nov 06, 2011 04:38:37 am

I'd forgotten all about this thread!!!

And Birder's post has prompted me to post these here (I put them on the "Propaganda" thread a few weeks ago but they bear repeating here...)

This is a selection of North Vietnamese issues "celebrating" the increasing number of American planes shot down during the conflict

More to follow in the next post...

gavin-h · **Posted:** Sun Nov 06, 2011 04:40:52 am

The remaining North Vietnamese Air War issues including the full "4181 / Victory" set:

birder · **Posted:** Sun Nov 06, 2011 05:36:48 am

Thanks gavin-h. These are great images.

birder · **Posted:** Sun Nov 06, 2011 18:22:16 pm

From Germany. The first anti-Jewish pogrom of 1241.

birder · **Posted:** Sun Nov 06, 2011 18:24:58 pm

Two nice stamps from Bulgaria. I hope some one can explain what exactly is depicted on them. May be some interesting story.

Thanks and regards

snowy12 · **Posted:** Sun Nov 06, 2011 22:28:17 pm

Hi all
I have this cover from Belarus.The liberation of Russia.Stamps on the front and the back.

Brian

Zenon · **Posted:** Thu Nov 10, 2011 08:26:49 am

"War is the father of history" (Plutarch)

tonyclayton · **Posted:** Thu Nov 10, 2011 08:51:55 am

Catweazle wrote:

Here's some from DDR (East or West Germany?? I think that's East)

This one is NOT depicting war. It is depicting a sporting event!

Catweazle · **Posted:** Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:18:43 am

tonyclayton wrote:

Catweazle wrote:

Here's some from DDR (East or West Germany?? I think that's East)

This one is NOT depicting war. It is depicting a sporting event!

Ooops, you're right! :lol:

Silly me!

nethryk · **Posted:** Fri Nov 11, 2011 01:14:01 am

Assault on the Winter Palace, St. Petersburg, designed and engraved by Boguslaw Brandt, and issued on November 16, 1952 to mark the 35th anniversary of the Russian Revolution, Scott No. 562, SG No. 787.

- nethryk

nethryk · **Posted:** Fri Nov 11, 2011 03:20:25 am

To the barricades! Commemorative stamp designed by Polish artist Maciej Jedrysik, engraved by Wanda Morycinska-Zajdel, and issued by Poland on March 20, 1998 to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the European revolutions of 1848, Scott No. 3408.

- nethryk

ivqii · **Posted:** Fri Nov 11, 2011 07:25:55 am

I hope it's OK to include Postal Stationery in this thread?

( If not Mods by all means delete

)

nethryk · **Posted:** Fri Nov 11, 2011 21:26:41 pm

Here is an image of an overprinted airmail stamp depicting a battle scene during the American Revolutionary War (1775-1783) featuring artillery, designed and engraved by Claude Andréotto, and issued by Benin (Dahomey) on July 4, 1976 in celebration of the USA's bicentennial, Scott No. C248.

- nethryk

crazylister1 · **Posted:** Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:15:28 am

Here is New Zealand's ANZAC series with remembrance day date stamps.

nethryk · **Posted:** Thu Nov 24, 2011 03:25:01 am

The Battle of Verdun, fought between the German and French armies from February 21 to December 18, 1916, resulted in 306,000 battlefield deaths (163,000 French and 143,000 German combatants) plus at least half a million wounded. Verdun was the longest battle during World War I, and was arguably the most devastating battle in the history of warfare. Here is an image of a stamp depicting French infantrymen (informally, called poilus) fighting in the trenches, designed and engraved by Albert Decaris, and issued by France on March 3, 1956 to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the Battle of Verdun, Scott No. 789, Y&T No. 1053.

- nethryk

vikingeck · **Posted:** Thu Nov 24, 2011 04:22:14 am

Taking time out from the fighting -----everyone wanted a smoke .
Tobacco parcels were organised in WW 1 and a "thank you card" was enclosed to be returned form the recipient at the front!

And next a couple of cards from WWII when thse parcels were organised again!

samkelly · **Posted:** Thu Nov 24, 2011 06:02:26 am

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Krone und Adler · **Posted:** Thu Nov 24, 2011 15:47:05 pm

Catweazle wrote:

KevinHedley wrote:

What are those chains at the front of the tank? Is it a sort of winch which pulls it out of the water?

Kevin Hedley is correct - it is a Sherman Flail tank; the drum rotates and the chains flail the ground in front of the tank, with the intent of detonating mines. There were quite a few different variants used in the D-Day landings, such as ones with fascinces on the front to drop into anti-tank ditches. These tanks are commonly called 'Funnies' - a wealth of info can be found using this term too on Google...

nightwatchman · **Posted:** Thu Nov 24, 2011 18:25:24 pm

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Australia: $1.05 stamp airmail letter rate to USA, commemorating the 1942
Battle of the Coral Sea, showing flags of Australia & USA in gutter, issued 19 February 1992.

Used on souvenir (event) cover, commemorating the Centenary of the Visit of the USA
Great White Fleet, 29 August 2008, commemorative postmark, Port Melbourne Victoria.

vikingeck · **Posted:** Thu Nov 24, 2011 19:08:50 pm

nightwatchman wrote:

Battle of the Coral Sea, showing flags of Australia & USA in gutter, issued 19 February 1992.

An unfortunate turn of phrase .

" margin" may not be correct, but reads better


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