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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 18:20:03 pm 
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no, your not, I'm not but he is and that is why he deserves a big

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The Aussie covers are obviously someone using up "leftovers" or discount postage.

Actually, the Aussie cover is someone sticking some stamps over the cancel on an Pre Stamped FDC which is not valid for postal use anyway.

The two images are the same cover ... to demonstrate what has been done.

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Or it took a really looooooooong time to get from Wollongong to Dandenong. :shock:

22¢ valid postage to cover a 60¢ rate. Good discount for the seller. :evil:

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Good spotting Muruk. :wink:

What a load of worthless garbage. I hope postage was free. :twisted:


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Good spotting Muruk. :wink:
What a load of worthless garbage. I hope postage was free. :twisted:

Postage was $2.50 :!:

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Unless the lot you purchased was a bargain, I'd be writing to the seller asking for $2.50 back. :roll: p


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This morning's mail.
All philatelic lots.
All from EBay sellers.
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Worth nothing as covers, but a few are worth including in a collection as used.

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Two parcels got delivered to me today (not from ebay). One had a useless printel label the other an eparcel, not a stamp to be seen.

Don't you just hate it how these useless, uncivilized morons do this. They don't even have the time to put on some decent stamps or even think for one second about what they are doing, they probably don't even have a full time jobs the lazy pricks. What a rip off I wont be buying from them again :lol:

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Just curious - is Dil a name, or a statement of some kind?


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Just curious - is Dil a name, or a statement of some kind?


Sometimes I put Dil instead of Dylan so its a name


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Just got some information on franking from my Post Office.( this may or may not be relevant to this thread)

What I wanted to do is -when someone purchases something from me, I asked the Postmaster, can I after paying for shipping with the correct Australian postal values attach Blocks of stamps from different countries to enhance the parcel or envelope to the buyer.

He said to me No Problem,perfectly legal apparently. He will even dress it up further with cancel if I choose.

How about that!! I honestly didn't know you could do that.

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Sorry, but why on earth would you do that? How does it enhance value?

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No Peter not to enhance value, its just an aesthetic thing.

A goodwill gesture of sorts.

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I've receievd a few like that every now and then. They often put some other used leftovers on the back of the envelope to "pretty it up".

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Which makes it worthless as a postal history item of the future. An envelope with current commemoratives is going to be collectible in the future, such a concoction will not be anything more than a curiosity.

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Fair points Gentleman...!


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I'll make the obvious comment that festooning the back of a normal letter with pretty stamps from wherever may look nice, but it VASTLY increases the chance of theft by postal staff.

A 60c or $1.20 current issue they see 10,000 times a day but 10 pretty Disney stamps from Mongolia ...................... :twisted:


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Now That is a Good Point.I worked in the Surrey Hills Exchange for a couple of years in the 70s and the thief was rife as I remember.

There Goes that idea.!!!


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Now That is a Good Point.I worked in the Surrey Hills Exchange for a couple of years in the 70s and the thief was rife as I remember.

There Goes that idea.!!!


Well you might have been living in a "time warp" :roll: since the 70's, that's 30 to 33 years ago by my simplistic reckoning.

So do we all assume we still live in the postally corrupt mail handling past history of this country ? Of course the thieves are still out there, but with fewer opportunities to line their pockets.

I appreciate the point about 'tarting up' your outgoing mail too much and consequently try not to go overboard with overly attractive or collectible postage.

However I know from my feedback that it's a worthwhile 'added bonus' for my buyers, or else I wouldn't waste my time and expense doing it !

So far so good (touch wood) ! I've yet to lose one 'value added' cover domestically or International mailing and that includes incoming.

So that's my experience from a personal perspective, I'm sure other experiences will be to the contrary....
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Gringo's point applies to the USA also. I've sent at least 15,000 eBay purchases and can still count the "lost" mail on the fingers of both hands.

Still, I do register mail if expensive and to a person I don't know. Most of what I sell isn't expensive, so that's uncommon.

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Well, I personaly have not left a negative if seller uses labels. As long as what I get item as described or a bargain.
If item costs 1$ and shipping cost is five times of actual but final amount still sums up as a bargain - why not buy it.
Still a postal history, however worthless for majority or unattractive to myself.

Indeed when I pay for shipping, in theory I should get nice recent stamps IF I ask for them but since most sellers turn a
blind eye on my requests - why bother. Not going to loose my sleep over it. I myself have always used stamps, very rarely definitives (when both mine and PO stock of commemoratives runs dry), mostly recent large commemoratives.

However, I still find some viewpoints amusing ... at best. But the World is a small place to hold all the different perspectives.

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I've just returned from West Bathurst Post Office.

When I asked the lady (a term I'll use loosely here :roll: ) behind the counter if I could have stamps on the envelope rather than a label, she initially baulked before providing two $2.35 international stamps for the postage.

When I asked why, she said that people in some countries are stealing stamps off envelopes and nobody would steal a label. Well at least she got that right !!

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Nothing at all that I get sent from asia has stamps. I did get stamps on parcel about 6 months ago but not anymore, most stuff is sent through courier companies like DHL, EMS, ect... even with normal china/hongkong post no stamps.

I dont think they the sellers want the buyer to see how much it actually costs (although it is printed on), I also always get asked do I want something "marked down" to avoid import duty.

Maybe the government could be doing more to protect australian business and reduce the cost we have to pay for post, another whole story though.

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Maybe the government could be doing more to protect australian business and reduce the cost we have to pay for post, another whole story though

What are they supposed to do, occupy Beijing?! The Great Sino-Australian eBay War of 2012. :lol:


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Maybe the government could be doing more to protect australian business and reduce the cost we have to pay for post, another whole story though

What are they supposed to do, occupy Beijing?! The Great Sino-Australian eBay War of 2012. :lol:


That is funny !!!!

Maybe put a tariff (not sure if correct word) on incomming mail from overseas to equal out the cost of domestic post. I got a package today that I payed $5 for including the item and it wasn't small, to post in Australia would cost $10.

I dont really wont to go off topic as I fear for my life. If ebay shut down how much would international mail reduce I wonder? How many more courier companies are there since the inception of ebay? How many less stamps are there to collect?

How many more are there since Glen started?

I would love to receive some nice stamps from hongkong or china but they don't use them, maybe I should ask.

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Now if I was charged nothing for postage, I would be fine with this cover.


This argument might sound okay, but it is not really logical. Surely one should bid/buy based on the total price (I know I do), regardless of how the seller structures their pricing.

I get purchases sent like this sometimes too, but I would not leave -ve feedback unless the seller stated (or is was reasonable to infer) that they would not reuse unfranked stamps.

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I think it's a fact that, if something is sent and payed for by a collector then the package has to be worth something. In a hundred years time I hope we dont just see Glen's postcode on stuff, he does post out really good but it is CTO, has it even been though the post?

It is 2122! Global Warming has taken over the earth. Oh, my time bubble melted... Glens CTO stamp are worth nothing. I have to travel back in time to tell everyone. From this day fourth I will use crappy stamps for post.


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I am sure u have heard b4 , collect because you like it. I turned around today at the PO and the lady printed a label on me the .....


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Don't want to be pedantic "DIL " but for chri---sts sake type paid instead of PAYED

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I'll make the obvious comment that festooning the back of a normal letter with pretty stamps from wherever may look nice, but it VASTLY increases the chance of theft by postal staff.

A 60c or $1.20 current issue they see 10,000 times a day but 10 pretty Disney stamps from Mongolia ...................... :twisted:


And then when the case goes to court Glen can be the expert witness to confirm the value of the item sold.

By the way, Glen, have you ever been an expert witness in a philatelic court case?


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By the way, Glen, have you ever been an expert witness in a philatelic court case?


My fee is $100 an hour, and Business Class airfares to Taipei. What have you done? :lol: :lol:

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Glen is right that the shipping costs were over-charged. That's not the best business practice.

Buyers appreciate it when you charge exact actual postal cost, or a few cents less.


There is the envelope. There is the cost of the stock card. There is the cost of going to the Post Office. There is the cost of the postage stamps. There is the time involved in it all.

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There is the envelope. There is the cost of the stock card. There is the cost of going to the Post Office. There is the cost of the postage stamps. There is the time involved in it all.


What a sloppy Scot you are. Think of all the extra things you forgot to cost in.

There is the pen, the paper, Tax, part cost of your lunch to generate spittle to lick the stamp, internet time to allow you to view ebay, ebay fees, paypal fees, dog food, power bills to run your lighting and computer, wear and depreciation on your office chair and mat and keyboard, and add a few % for inflation - don't forget that.

Why not call it 20 quid a lot nice round figure, shipping and handling just to be on the safe side?? Can't be too canny. You must have forgot something.

In your wacksville way of looking at the realities of retail that seems fair.

Some of you folks crack me up, and would last 5 minutes in the real business world.

Seeing this thread is about a law breaking cretin, illegally using re-glued and re-cycled stamps that fall off, and charging an obscene sum for shipping - please go read the FIRST post again. :idea:

The last 8 posts have had zero to do with the thread subject so let us get back there please. :idea:


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To get back to the original post.

The problem with mailing a cover like that to your customer, a stamp collector, is that it shows a lack of professionalism on the part of the seller.

If one wants to be a stamp dealer, even if its just selling via eBay, he (or she) needs to act as a professional dealer would.
Selling stamps and postal history is a highly competitive business. If you have found someone who wants to buy from you don't do anything that might cause your customer to hesitate making another purchase. Also, do things that show your buyer that you are a professional and that you actually care about the buyers' experience with you. You want your buyer to come back for more. As the old saying goes, its much cheaper to keep an existing customer happy than to go out and find a new one.

Mailings should be neat, clean and tidy with proper packing materials to prevent damage to the merchandise. This means no reused envelopes, no reused cardboard or reused postage stamps.

The postage applied should paying the proper and exact rate for the destination. Not only do collectors value a correctly rated cover but it can prevent undue delays in shipment if a misrated cover is held up or returned to the sender. When possible you should ask the postal clerk to neatly postmark the envelope. This helps two ways. It gives the buyer visible proof that you mailed the material promptly and also reduces the chance that the package will receive an ugly pen or roller cancel.
While commemoratives are nice, there is concern that commemorative use increases the chance of theft in the mail system. The seller needs to determine this based on his own experience with a particular buyer and/or destination.

Personally, I think it is over the top to give the seller negative feedback for sending this cover assuming the material arrived safely. But to charge $3.50, I think a reduced detailed seller rating (2 or 3 stars out of 5 for shipping) is warranted.

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Nothing at all that I get sent from asia has stamps. I did get stamps on parcel about 6 months ago but not anymore, most stuff is sent through courier companies like DHL, EMS, ect... even with normal china/hongkong post no stamps.

At post offices in HK, if you're mailing a 'parcel', that is something over 2kg, or using EMS service, the counters for those services will apply a label, unless you bring your own stamps--they don't keep stamps at those counters.

The counters for letters/registered/small packets don't have label machines. Everything is franked with stamps, torn off sheets kept in a folder. Yes, the old-fashioned way. Mind you, 90% of the time they'll only have defins on hand. If its the first week or so since a new issue came out, they might have a sheet or two of commems on hand. A bulletin I got in the mail last weekend from the philatelic bureau had an announcement that a "pilot project" of having computer-printed labels at the letter/small packet counter, tested out at a few local branches, would be extended to more local branches. The big offices aren't "upgraded" yet.

As for postmarking, the staff here make darned-sure everything gets cancelled. Regular airmail/small packets just get dropped in a slot, but I've never had an uncancelled stamp get through (I get large amounts of stamps back from mail sent to family overseas). If the sorting machine postmark doesn't get it, or its an oversize piece, there's roller cancels to solve that.

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What a sloppy Scot you are. Think of all the extra things you forgot to cost in.

There is the pen, the paper, Tax, part cost of your lunch to generate spittle to lick the stamp, internet time to allow you to view ebay, ebay fees, paypal fees, dog food, power bills to run your lighting and computer, wear and depreciation on your office chair and mat and keyboard, and add a few % for inflation - don't forget that.

Why not call it 20 quid a lot nice round figure, shipping and handling just to be on the safe side?? Can't be too canny. You must have forgot something.

In your wacksville way of looking at the realities of retail that seems fair.

Some of you folks crack me up, and would last 5 minutes in the real business world.

Seeing this thread is about a law breaking cretin, illegally using re-glued and re-cycled stamps that fall off, and charging an obscene sum for shipping - please go read the FIRST post again. :idea:

The last 8 posts have had zero to do with the thread subject so let us get back there please. :idea:


Did he use worthless crappy stamps to post? Yes. Obviousely as a stamp dealer that makes so much money there is no need to factor in the small costs, just make the percentage and move on. And charge full price for postage! :!:

If by chance this guy did break the law to save less than a dollar. Maybe he is feeding his starving mother and 10 kids, yet he is a cretin by your standards

You yourself set the price.....

You seem to be quick to condem Glen when you should look in the mirror.

All my opinion please dont ban.

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I don't think there's any need to dig up a comment from 1 or 2 years ago and proceed to stir the pot. I've read a few of your posts today and it's becoming annoying.

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Greg, thanks for the defence, but don't worry yourself. I just ignored him. :D

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