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HI Graeme.
I will post some shift dots for all soonish

The link is one big line. Copy any paste as one item. that includes the ? etc all as 1 line

The images are not stored anywhere it is just picking them all up from Graeme's site and opening them sequentially

Tony

http://members.home.nl/bas.de.reuver/fi ... ge35/Pic35[001-112].jpg

Lets try and get the link right.

http://members.home.nl/bas.de.reuver/fi ... ge35/Pic35[001-112].jpg

I guess the problems are that it is a link within a link
It is one line starting with http://members
and finishing with [001-112].jpg
Tony

Looking back on a earlier discussion on countercoils, I just found this 1d with a left hand piece attached to the reverse of the stamp. Am I right to assume that this is a example of a used countercoil , and if it is, would you be able to help me best describe it, so I can include in my album.




Cheers Mark

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Hi Mark
Looks like a standard coil join to me.
Good if you can get a pair where the stamps from the front are slightly misaligned.
I will try and scout one out to illustrate.
Tony

Bob,

Thank you very much for your advice on the New Zealand Society of Great Britain. My wife and I spent two nights and a day in York in September - it wasn't nearly long enough. However, I don't think I'll be allowed to pop over again for a philatelic weekend.

It has always been my intention to get a run of the Society's journal, the 'Kiwi' one of these days but it seems that it has never been the right time.

Kev, thanks for your comment. I hope you are reading the Manly-Warringah clubs' forum here on Stampboards.

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Hi Folks

Small design, single wmk on cover to New Zealand. Campbell Paterson lists the issue date
as 29 Sep 1941 for the multiple wmk. This cover is dated 13th? Sep 1941, am I right to assume
it is the scarcer single wmk on issue May to September 1941?





This cover shows the 2½d perf 13½ X 14 wet printing, along with a 1½d single wmk
perf 14 X 13½.



Cheers

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Cheers!

Yes, I think it must be a single watermark, well spotted, adds a bit of value ! Nice cover with the illustration, the 9d certainly has a connection with war mail, I am always looking out for just regular usage of this stamp, got a couple but not alot .
Have you checked the string line for doubling on the Maori girl cooking on the other cover.

Cheers Mark

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Here is one I have, A 1941 Registered cover with a L11c, used from Statford to Dunedin.



cheers Mark

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Hi Mark.

Nice reg cover.

I think the 9d smaller design single wmk on cover dated within period of use might prove to be a tough thing
to replicate, being issued for only 5 months or so.

Yes I did check the 1½d and no doubling. I have picked up some nice used copies out of dealers stocks though

Did servicemen get half price postage rates to send letters home?

Here is a pair of L11a used Nov 1935 on commercial cover making the 1/6 rate to England. The 9d's are easy
to find on FFC's but a fair bit tougher on normal mail.



Cheers

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Cheers!

I can across this rather nice cover today amongst my boxes of "stuff"



A Last day of issue cover.

I can't find any reference as to what the expected CV might be, any clues?

It is likely to end up in the For Sale Forum shortly to fund a rather large purchase of Penny Universals I have coming ................ sighhhhhhhh

Cheers

Roly

Hi Roly, I have never seen one of those before, Do you think its a official cover for the first three (?) denominations that were withdrawn in 1938, The flower design is kind of naive looking compared to the first day covers.
Mark

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I am not too sure about this modern material Mark

I have seen these covers before but most of them have been very tatty indeed.

This one stuck out in that it is in excellent condition for it's age.

I am not sure what price to put on it but I am sure a '35 collector would have some idea.

Now if it were a Universal or a Dominion or 1898 Pictorial that would be a another story altogether.

Cheers

Roly

Hi
Here is a cover with quite a few 1935 pictorials. As the postmark is 13 September 1935, all the pictorials must have a single watermark. The total value of the franking is 6s 0d which is four times the standard rate.
Bob

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Hi
The 1935 Pictorials give scope for all kinds of specialist research. For example, a recent article in The New Zealand Stamp Collector, the Journal of the Royal Philatelic Society of New Zealand describes the different directions in which the comb perforations took place.

In the first few years, the sheets were perforated either from left to right or from right to left as shown in the following examples of the 2d plate 1A.



The block of 4 is perforated from left to right while the pair is perforated from right to left and so the perforations extend into the left margin.

Later, a different comb perforation head was used and the sheets were perforated either from top to bottom or from bottom to top as in the examples of plates 5A and 5B.



Plate 5A is top to bottom while 5B is from bottom to top. Plates 2A and 2B each exist in all four possibilities.

Further information is on my website at: http://www.nzstamps.org.uk/35pictorials/twopence/index.html

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Are any of the perfs directions more rarer, or harder to find, than others. That was a great article, thanks for that posting,
Mark

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Hi Mark
The different directions are not listed in the catalogues and so it is likely that no one really knows the answer to your question. The article seems to be the first attempt to do a systematic study. Most of the 2d on fine paper were perforated left to right or right to left and appear to be uncommon top to bottom or bottom to top. On the other hand, the 2d on coarse paper seems to be less common left to right or right to left.

I have one block not listed in the article: Plate 4B top to bottom.



Assume that if people look through their pictorial plate blocks they will find other examples of blocks not listed.
Bob

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Just found this newly issued Mini sheet online, trying to source some !, thought they might be fun on cover as a cinderella.
Cheers Mark

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Mark,

I would love to have one of those cinderella sheetlets if you can get me one. Please?

Many thanks,

Graeme

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www.philas.org.au/manlywarringah

Hi Graeme, I believe there are two varities of the sheet , I will let you know more next week,
Cheers Mark

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(a)

(b)

Help, can anyone please help me on which is the 'worm flaw' and which is the 'frog on the log flaw',on these 1d Kiwis, my notes say one thing but I feel the supposedly worm looks more like a frog,

Cheers Mark

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Just received this cover yesterday from a recent auction, I purchased for its nice selection of single watermarks on cover, the cover itself is rather tatty and showing its age



But look at the 3d maori girl, Has anyone ever seen that marking on her shoulder before ?



and a close up



I have gone through hundreds of 3ds and never seen anything like this before, there seems to be two crescent type markings, It would be great to know if there are any other similar stages of markings on this original printing.

Cheers Mark

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Possible plate crack?

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Cheers!

One of my favourite speciality areas. I have one question.
SG has no cv for 'used' 1935 2/- COQK flaw . Refer SG # 568a 568ca but has
a cv for 1936-42 Issue 'used' refer SG # 589a, 589ca, 589ea.

Is there no known stamps 'used' from 1935 Issue ?

Thanks for any information in this regard.

Hi there,
Not sure about SG but CP list it as L13d(Y) uhm (at) NZ$975.00 and Fu (at)$ 95.00,

This is the issue that the collectors at the time missed, thus not many mint saved.

Hope this helps.

Has anyone ever seen a CoQk flaw on cover ?

Cheers Mark

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A recent aquistion, A private first day cover, Jones D35. Not as impressive as yours Graeme with that signature by Mr Collins, but never the less one I have been chasing for a while !

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Been collecting the 9d with sheet numbers for a while. Lots of mint examples around, so I thought I would go for used



Here is a nice used pair, CP 11e.
I never thought I would ever find a copy on cover, but look what I just won !



"c1941 WWII Censored OAS cover Egypt to NZ, franked NZ9d Maori panel, unusual in still having sheet cnr selv. with sheet#WTU 471178. unclear "Egypt Postage prepaid" cds pmk"

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Noticed this on ePay
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-ZEALAND-SG-583c-Rare-Stamp-Block-/360364186211

Stated to be
NEW ZEALAND SG# 583c NH

Rare Block of 24. 1941 Line Perf 14. Gibbons £1560 (NWZLSG#583cH5)



Just thought some may be keen. It is a buy now and under US$1500

Perhaps 6 for a [+] each????

Tony W

Back to Nov.2009 on this thread, we were discussing coil stamps, here is a nice example on cover !



Cheers Mark

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The worm flaw is the top one,that's because the lines on it supposedly look like the segments of a worm.

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If it's old and interesting...it's gotta be fun
My main collecting interest is in the New Zealand 1906 Christchurch Exhibition material.

Thanks Rebel,
yes those segments do make it look like a worm !
Cheers Mark

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I'm no expert but those stamps don't look to be line perforated. Every hole at the intersection of a row and a column of perforations is nearly perfectly round.

The block pictured below is also listed on eBay as SG 583c, and in my opinion are line perforated.

Yes
I agree with you.
I was just interested if there was any interest in principle - but no.

It was not a line perf - thank you for bringing me back to reality.
Sometimes we do not see the woods for the trees.

Interesting the same block is on ePay again as #360390721629. Price is still the same

How much did the plate block sell for?

Ta
Tony

The plate block was unsold when I last checked a few minutes ago. The seller has a US$599 buy-it-now price on it. The item number is 360102458592.

CP's price for a plate block of 4 stamps is NZ$2850.

Here is a useful item for identifying the three dies of the 1d 'Kiwi'



and three die examples to try identifying !

a.
b.
c.

See how you go...

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All collectors of the 1935 Pictorials, are you familiar with these?


4 cinderella sheets showing unadopted essays
for the 1935 Pictorial set. Offset-printed on
glossy paper and imperf.

The Auckland Philatelic Society holds an annual exhibition near the middle of each year. It is open to the public (apart from those philatelists under a "ban" decree issued by the mercurial B. Chadderton, our president), and in 2010 was held over the two days of 12th & 13th June 2010 at Mt Albert War Memorial Hall, Wairere Avenue, Mt Albert. Entry was free.

11 dealers had stalls there, and were kept busy by visitors. The club charges the dealers seeking stalls the amount of the hall rental + security & advertising (divided by number of dealers), so the exhibition cost is covered.

Each year, the APS issues a free cinderella minisheet, which is given away to visitors along with an exhibition catalogue. For 2010 however the free minisheet was charged ($2 each), and there were four sheets: two for each day. Each sheet showed an unadopted essay for the 1935 pictorials, in larger than stamp-size format, and imperf.

The theme of that year's show was "75th anniversary of the NZ 1935 pictorial issue."

Saddest thing about the year's show though, was the tiny number of exhibitors. Only four members of the club submitted exhibits, and with such a small number, the club decided to forego the usual "judging" and awarding of prizes as has happened in all other years.

The exhibits were:

NZ 1935 Pictorials - Dave Shand.

NZ 1935 Pictorials - Mark Wooller.

NZ Postage Dues - Paul Yap.

Whakarewarewa Postcards - anonymous.

In this scribe's opinion, the Postage Due display by Mr Yap would undoubtedly have taken the trophy had the show been judged. His collection of the elusive Postage Due issues of NZ included covers of all the values, and I think everyone was pleasantly surprised to see such a trove. Mr Yap has clearly delved into many corners (and no doubt haunted many dealers!) to ferret out and compile a truly fascinating array of these unusual stamps, seldom seen these days apart from the low values.

-- description on the Trademe auction site,
http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/stamps/new-zealand/other/auction-455811076.htm

I have a couple of these sets of sheets, happy to trade with anyone who would like them.

regards, Bruce.

Did anyone see the imperf cinderella sheets issued by a stamp club in New Zealand in 2010 to celebrate the 75th anniversary of the 1935 Pictorials?

The four sheets show unadopted essays.



Here are some details about them from Trademe auction in NZ:

The Auckland Philatelic Society holds an annual exhibition near the middle of each year. It is open to the public (apart from those philatelists under a "ban" decree issued by the mercurial B. Chadderton, our president), and in 2010 was held over the two days of 12th & 13th June 2010 at Mt Albert War Memorial Hall, Wairere Avenue, Mt Albert. Entry was free.

11 dealers had stalls there, and were kept busy by visitors. The club charges the dealers seeking stalls the amount of the hall rental + security & advertising (divided by number of dealers), so the exhibition cost is covered.

Each year, the APS issues a free cinderella minisheet, which is given away to visitors along with an exhibition catalogue. For 2010 however the free minisheet was charged ($2 each), and there were four sheets: two for each day. Each sheet showed an unadopted essay for the 1935 pictorials, in larger than stamp-size format, and imperf.

The theme of that year's show was "75th anniversary of the NZ 1935 pictorial issue."

Saddest thing about the year's show though, was the tiny number of exhibitors. Only four members of the club submitted exhibits, and with such a small number, the club decided to forego the usual "judging" and awarding of prizes as has happened in all other years.

The exhibits were:

NZ 1935 Pictorials - Dave Shand.

NZ 1935 Pictorials - Mark Wooller.

NZ Postage Dues - Paul Yap.

Whakarewarewa Postcards - anonymous.

In this scribe's opinion, the Postage Due display by Mr Yap would undoubtedly have taken the trophy had the show been judged. His collection of the elusive Postage Due issues of NZ included covers of all the values, and I think everyone was pleasantly surprised to see such a trove. Mr Yap has clearly delved into many corners (and no doubt haunted many dealers!) to ferret out and compile a truly fascinating array of these unusual stamps, seldom seen these days apart from the low values.

- source: http://www.stamps.freeforums.org

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In my quest to collect all the different Adverts on the reverse of the 1d 1935 Lettercard, I purchased this example from Trade Me,



A First Day cover, below is a close up of the cancel.



Does anyone else have any examples of this, I imagine its quite rare, in that most of the public were busy getting the regular pictorial FDC on May the 1st, and it was only the hardiest of the philatelics that thought of the lettercards.

Cheers Mark

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Mark,

I think that is a fantastic buy. I haven't even considered the lettercards. You may have a unique item there.

Get advice before you mix postal stationery and stamps in the same exhibit at a stamp show. Are you going to Blenheim in October?

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Graeme Morriss - Hon. Secretary, Manly-Warringah Philatelic Society
www.philas.org.au/manlywarringah

Thanks Graeme,
Hadn't thought about Blenheim or exhibiting again ! How about you, are you planning a trip ?

Here are two recent finds, used official plate blocks....

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They look pretty good, Mark.

Can you read the postmarks? Do they look like places which would have had government offices for genuine usage?

Yes, I am vaguely thinking of remounting all the 1935s and trying to exhibit them again at Blenheim. Whether I actually get around to doing the work ...

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www.philas.org.au/manlywarringah

This is one of my favourite sets and one I know much about, as I had to specialise in them when I worked at a stamp shop years ago.
To me they are the most interesting and iconic of all our stamps issues and the best thing is their relative accessibility to most collectors, unlike the 1898's they are relatively easy to obtain and the varities are easier to discren than the 98s which I love too, but do not have the time or money to build up a huge collection of, whereas I have many of the different varieties of 1935s. For most of the values, you can staright away tell the period of your stamp. Fine paper means its 1935 -1939 and if has a rough rag paper (You will know by the squared mesh) its a World War 2 period item.

Next you can always tell the original 35's, (Mostly L.a's in the CP) they have a vertical mesh and always are single watermark, whereas later printings have (Usually L.b's - g) depending on the printing) multiple watermarks. Plus you have the booklet panes and all the errors like the Captain CQOK error on the 2/-

One of these days I will start a thread on identifying types, like Colin did witth his South Africa 1926 - 1952 definitives. Unless its been done already.

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Nice to hear from you, Great idea to start a thread,
once its gets going, would you be happy for others to contribute images ?

Mark

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The entry date for the Blenheim exhibition (12 - 14 October) has just been extended to 31 July.

I have sent my entry in for the 1935s re-mounted into 5 frames (80 album pages). Of course, I haven't actually done the re-mounting yet. My existing rather dis-organised 7 frames can still be viewed on my website:

http://.www.stampsmw.top1.com.au

The enquiries email for BlenPex is:
blenpex (at) hotmail.co.uk

Graeme

NZ post rates from November 1935, taken from 1d Kiwi booklet.





Cheers, Mark.

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Sure, you can even start it if you like. I thought about it and then realised I was biting off more than I can chew and I know many of you know more about it than me

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I collect Malta, Ireland, Malta, Tristan da Cunha, Malta, various Pacific Islands, Malta, New Zealand, Malta, Australia and Malta.

Dear everyone,

I have put the semi-finalised title page of my exhibit for Blenheim on the title page comments thread:

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8757&p=3065386#p3065386

Please do comment on that thread, preferably in the next 48 hours.

I don't think I will have time to post scans of the album pages on my personal website before I send the exhibit away. However, it is basically the same material there already, but reduced to 5 frames (from 7) and re-ordered somewhat.

My personal website is
http://www.stampsmw.top1.com.au

If anyone else is going to Blenheim, please advise on the Blenheim thread. I shall post the thread url in the next post (below this one).

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Graeme Morriss - Hon. Secretary, Manly-Warringah Philatelic Society
www.philas.org.au/manlywarringah

The Blenheim, New Zealand, Exhibition thread is:

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=34998&p=2894136#p2894136

If anyone else is going, please make a note on that thread.

Thanks,

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www.philas.org.au/manlywarringah

Thanks Graeme for suggesting I try the 1935 Pictorial study group.
I am interested in seeing other examples/scans of 1942 5d Swordfish perf. 13¾ x 13½ [CPL8f, SG 584(c)] as Plate 1 [4]. My statistician suggests I aim for seeing 10 examples before I can be confident that all are the same (such as perforated BT). I have got to 7 ! Can any others help ?
Geoff (new member !)

Hi Geoff,

I really enyoyed the article in the 'NZ Stamp Collector' issue this month, now it all falls into place what your looking for, (sorry I can't help).
I am looking forward the next issue with your next installment already !

cheers Mark

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Thanks Mark; glad you enjoyed the article, the result of a 5-year study! The 2s story will be in the June issue of NZSC.
Geoff