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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 05:54:20 am 
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I often see stamps, for sale say on ebay, and then in brackets it will say 'forgeries' see -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/King-George-V-1915-1918-Set-Seahorses-FORGERIES-/260886323903

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I wouldn't want to buy a forgery. But is there a market for them, do people collect forgeries?

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People collect 'classic' forgeries but I don't know about this kind of stuff. I see them too, often it's the GB GV £1 PUC, which to be honest is the only way I am likely to fill that spot. But I don't really want that type of thing myself anyway. But yes people must be buying them.

I've got one old forgery - a 'Missing Dye' Forgery, Indian stamp. I found out it was a forgery on this forum and the story behind it was quite interesting so I decided to keep it as a item of curiosity. Only because it is old though, these new ones have no interest for me.

Really these new ones are better classed as 'reproductions' or 'facsimiles' as they would fool no one, and really that is not their intent. It's like buying a space filler in some ways I guess. Real (oh the irony) forgeries were made to fool people.


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I only collect old forgeries - Spiro, Fournier etc.
Anything modern I can print better myself.

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Old Harry has books full of them. :roll:

He can,t understand why he cannot pick them up for nothing these days, :?
He used to see a stamp, and say "oh thats a Forgery" and he would be GIVEN it,,
not any more. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Glyn, please can you post the images from the ebay listing. They will vanish from ebay in 90 days & render your post meaningless.

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I only collect old forgeries - Spiro, Fournier etc.
Anything modern I can print better myself.

I concur.

We already have an extensive forgery discussion thread HERE.

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Aplogies to admin, but it was just the sale of GV 2/6d up to £1 1918 Seahorses and I've seen lots of others.

To confirm my assumption, is a spacefiller a badly damaged stap that would only serve to fill a space in the album. So I couldn't afford a £1 Seahorse unless it was so damaged as to be virtually worthless?

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I know the ebay listing says "forgeries", but I think that's the wrong terminology.

A forgery is a facsimilie produced in order to defraud.

As these are stamped "copy" and are openly being sold as copies, I would call them replicas rather than forgeries.

Some of us collect (older) forgeries, but a replica is just a space filler, rather than a collectable in its own right.

If I needed a space filler, like the ones being offered, I would just print my own.

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Aplogies to admin, but it was just the sale of GV 2/6d up to £1 1918 Seahorses and I've seen lots of others.

I think the point here was that the link will be dead once the listing finishes, so there's no point putting it up here at all except as a temporary connection.

Anyone reading this in six month's time will not be able to follow the link, and would benefit greatly from a permanent image posted here.

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So, a 'space filler' (if the stamps is described as that say on ebay) isn't the genuine article, but a copy?
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Glyn, please can you post the images from the ebay listing. They will vanish from ebay in 90 days & render your post meaningless.

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Glyn Pope we do not like wasting Mod time asking TWICE for something that common sense would have had you doing from the onset.

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=11738

Please comply ASAP.

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Glyn Pope wrote:
So, a 'space filler' (if the stamps is described as that say on ebay) isn't the genuine article, but a copy?
glyn

No.

A space filler is anything that fills a space in your album when you don't have the stamp you really want.

If you collect Mint Never Hinged, then a Mint Hinged or a Fine Used could be your space filler. Not always cheap or damaged. Just what you can get till the real thing comes along.

Or it could be a poor quality stamp, or a replica, or a cutout from a catalogue, or a note with the stamp's description on it.

Often the term is used for poor quality stamps, at which point it becomes a defacto type of grading. Very Fine Used, Fine Used, Average Used, Filler Quality. Not a defined standard, but I've seen the term used that way.

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