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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 18:13:11 pm 
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Hello there,

Can anyone please offer me some information about these stamps?

I realise there are a few on there, but I'm hoping you'll be able to zoom in to view them.

any information would be gratefully received. I am not a stamp expert by any means :oops:

NB: I am also posting an image of some Australian stamps

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 18:31:11 pm 
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There are only five Victorian stamps there, the rest being George V and Edward V11. Victorian stamps specifically mean stamps issued during the reign of Queen Victoria, All are very common Great Britain stamps, with the first three and the last on line one being issued in 1887 for the Queens Jubilee, which I suppose technically makes them commemoratives.

The scan is so tiny it is not possible to say much more. I suggest that you zoom away most of the white space, and provide a larger scan, and provide a little more information. What, specifically did you wish to know?

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Thanks Norm, I really appreciate your comments :)

Not being an expert, I am not sure what to make of these stamps.

Are any of them rare?

How would I find out how best to look after them? They have been stored in albums for a long time and survived, so I'm assuming they will continue to be okay.

Should they be insured? If so, how would I go about establishing their approximate value? Is there a reliable website to find out?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 19:18:05 pm 
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As I said in my original post

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All are very common Great Britain stamps
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You could insure the lot for around $1.00 and then they would be overpriced. If they are OK where they were originally stored, leave them that way. Any new storage you purchased for them would cost more than the stamps are worth.

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BLV wrote:
Are any of them rare?

How would I find out how best to look after them? They have been stored in albums for a long time and survived, so I'm assuming they will continue to be okay.

Should they be insured? If so, how would I go about establishing their approximate value? Is there a reliable website to find out?

Some of the stamps would be worth a few pounds each in fine condition, but from the scan it appears (difficult to tell) that the condition of most of these isn't good at all -- rather battered, tears, heavy postmarks, colours faded in some cases.

Catalogue values are for the fine condition ones and would be tremendously misleading here -- as Norm says, they're all common stamps, readily available, so in poor condition there's really very little demand and hence a very low value.

Closer inspection from bigger scans might show that a few of the examples are sound, but again, even then we're only talking a few pounds each, so insurance would be overkill.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 01:24:58 am 
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The free advice given to any new member is directly proportional to how astute they are with offering scans. Good scans are as easy to post as appalling ones -

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=284

BLV appears fixated on value, and not on the scans he/she offers. :idea:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 01:57:50 am 
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thank you for your kind and patient feedback Mozzerb, it's appreciated.

It seems that I have offended by posting an image that includes several stamps. To explain briefly:

The scan that I offered was as a way to introduce some of the stamps that I am having to sort out. I assumed, incorrectly it seems, that if any of them needed closer inspection that I could post another image.

There are several hundred stamps that I am trying to learn about and unfortunately don't have a great deal of time at the moment and many commitments, hence why I came to this site for help.

I need to get an understanding of what is there, if any need to be insured and yes, value is to be considered because IF the decision is to sell any, funds are to be directed to charity.

Personally I am not 'fixated on value' as has been suggested, in fact I marvel at the design and history of stamps and wish I had the time to enjoy it and learn about the more technical aspects. To be frank I collected a long long time ago but sadly much of my collection was stolen, which was very disheartening to a kid.

Clearly i have offended by asking for help on this site. I had hoped that experts would be willing to aid and share their knowledge.
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BLV, you haven't offended me in the slightest, nor, I am sure, most other members.

There are scanning tricks that would help you post more detailed images of your stamps, and which would help the experts (of which I am not one!) evaluate what you have. If you can, scan the page at 300 dpi (dots per inch), then crop some of the individual stamp images and save them as separate files. I wouldn't bother doing this on any that are obviously badly damaged.

Some of your stamps exist in varieties that are more valuable; a catalogue like the SG Concise catalogue of GB stamps would show you what these are and what to look for. Although the chances are that none of your stamps are rare or particularly valuable, it can still be enjoyable finding out about them (e.g. differences in designs, perforations and watermarks), and you never know.....

As others have said, practice the scanning and enjoy your stamps!

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BLV, one of the "problems" with old stamps is that they are often much more plentiful than their modern counterparts: In Victoria's time, there were virtually no phones and there were certainly no emails or text messages. So that meant that the only way to send a message was in a letter with a stamp on it.

Some of the stamps were printed in the BILLIONS, so are still easy to find even today.

Also, as previous replies have pointed out, condition is EVERYTHING with these - a nibbled perforation, a crease or tear will take away what little value there is.

I'd say Row 4 Stamp 2 is the best one here - and even that appears to have a missing corner, so maybe worth a pound on a (very) good day.

And, often, in these collections, if the stamps on one page are mainly damaged, the rest will be in similar condition. BUT if you have any that appear to be in perfect condition, it would be worth putting up a higher-resolution scan of those (maybe scan just a couple at once and trim the image to just show the stamps).


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gavin-h wrote:
BLV, one of the "problems" with old stamps is that they are often much more plentiful than their modern counterparts: In Victoria's time, there were virtually no phones and there were certainly no emails or text messages. So that meant that the only way to send a message was in a letter with a stamp on it.

Some of the stamps were printed in the BILLIONS, so are still easy to find even today.

Also, as previous replies have pointed out, condition is EVERYTHING with these - a nibbled perforation, a crease or tear will take away what little value there is.

I'd say Row 4 Stamp 2 is the best one here - and even that appears to have a missing corner, so maybe worth a pound on a (very) good day.

And, often, in these collections, if the stamps on one page are mainly damaged, the rest will be in similar condition. BUT if you have any that appear to be in perfect condition, it would be worth putting up a higher-resolution scan of those (maybe scan just a couple at once and trim the image to just show the stamps).


Hi Gavin,

Thank you for your explanation. Now that you mention it, it seems daft that the fact that so many were printed didn't immediately occur to me. Of course they did!

With reference to the stamp that you think might the the better one of this bunch. I have re-scanned it and post it here for your feedback. I seem to have found that missing corner too :) oops

How old are these? I'm guessing (in part from the postal info and internet search) that they are from early 1900's or very late 1800's, but I am so curious to know more.

Why is this one considered the better one? Is it because of the colors?
From what everyone has said the rest are VERY common, but are there any others worth closer inspection?

I really appreciate your comments Gavin; and those from Phil.

PHIL !! Thank you also. Both yours and Gavin's words are kind and patient to one who comes to this forum seeking to learn, with next to zero knowledge and a bit of RSI (now) from all the internet searching. THANK YOU!

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BLV wrote:
Clearly i have offended by asking for help on this site. I had hoped that experts would be willing to aid and share their knowledge.
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Well, pardon me for being honest. I will try to be honest with other collectors in the future, but since you did not like the truth, I will not respond to anything you post in the future.

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For some reason I am reminded of the story of a chap who was at a dinner party with 4 doctors and mentioned in passing the tingling he was regularly getting in his fingertips.

After a few questions all agreed it sounded like early warning of a stroke, and urged him to get it looked at soon by an expert.

Like many men he ignored the FREE advice from these experts in their field, as most likely being wrong - as he felt OK.

He died of a massive stroke a month later.


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Apologies as I re-arranged the images on the photobucket site and the link was lost.

This is the new one:

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and this one:

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If you would like me to upload clearer scans of any others, please let me know.

Thank you again to all for your comments and advice. All has been taken, and I appreciate it :)


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Good to see you are still with us - thought you had maybe decided to quit

As others have said - with stamps condition is everything

Condition includes colour , perforations ( perfs ) centreing etc and , with used stamps , the crispness and readability of the cancellation - which must have gone through the normal mail system on a letter, postcard etc - not parcel

So - looking at the King Edward VII 1/- stamp of which you have provided a very good scan ( and here I should say I am not an expert on GB stamps - just a generalist )

Colour? not perfect but not too bad

Perfs? many nibbled perfs

Centreing? good

Cancellation - looks to me like a parcel cancel - thick concentric rings and wider apart than a normal mail cancellation

So far not so good OK? :)

But worse is to follow - your stamp is very dirty - and you can't wash it - the colour would "run"

So what the others have said is right - your stamp catalogued at £35 has become a £1 stamp


BUT stick with it - hopefully you will become fascinated by the hobby - in which case your fun, research and a steep learning curve is just beginning - enjoy your adventure :D

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Folks another reminder to NEVER move or delete anything in photobucket that is posted here.

Often that causes images to not upload or show as deleted images - exactly as we now have here in post 1. :twisted: :idea:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 22:10:07 pm 
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Hi BLV, The last image is of the size we need to clearly see the stamps you wish to ask about!

The last page of stamps is far too small to see...especially for us older collectors!...better to scan "each" image on a black background so that each stamp looks like this!

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I know it takes more time and effort but worth it in the long run! Far better to put up images of good scans to start with! And an added bonus is that you will always have a record of that stamp in photobucket!

Just remember to NEVER delete a photobucket image that you have used on this forum! It disappears off the board! And really destroys the thread for anyone wanting to follow the information! You can safely delete off your own computer to save space but Photobucket is like a huge stamp album that you can leave and continue to add to for a long time to come!

A virtual stamp collection if you like :D

All of us would like to think we have the proverbial "rare" stamp...but :( most of us don't!) it's like Murphy's law!!! if the more expensive one is the mint? I have the used!!! and vica versa!!

Please continue to post larger pics here but also use the Search button to look for some of the items you have as there may already be threads about that particular stamp and the information you seek is already available!

It's amazing what information can be found here!

As for the larger image you have posted as a general idea, it's a 1902 design with King Edward VII, catalogue value in excellent condition (which unfortunately yours, and mine as well is not!) is 20 Pounds used...that's from my 1999 catalogue! Enough to get us excited yes... but not enough to pay the bank loan!!!

Have fun stamping!

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There have been a couple of extra posts since I started writting this reply...all with good information! Look forward to a reply!

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hutch wrote:
Hi BLV, The last image is of the size we need to clearly see the stamps you wish to ask about!

The last page of stamps is far too small to see...especially for us older collectors!...better to scan "each" image on a black background so that each stamp looks like this!

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Hi Hutch,

Thank you so much for taking the time to offer a reply, even if you can't see the images :)

With some enthusiasm I have spent much of today and tonight trying to sort out some of the stamps... it feels rather endless really, but one album at a time. I've started by trying to alphabetise them, in the hope that it will help, but to be honest there are several smaller islands and pre/post colonial names that I will have to research.

In the meantime though, I did recognise the stamp that you posted and eventually found the one that I have here. I'm assuming it is Russian, but perhaps, given that you have one, you could please tell me more :)

This is the one: Image

Scanning, copying, naming, duplicating etc.. is indeed a time consuming process... I think I may have underestimated the amount of time required and I'm still experimenting, but have started with your black suggestion.. thank you :)

Not sure I'm getting it right enough for you experts yet though LOL

Thank you for your kind reply Hutch :) Appreciated.
Look forward to learning a little about the Russian stamp


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Good to see you are still with us - thought you had maybe decided to quit

As others have said - with stamps condition is everything

Condition includes colour , perforations ( perfs ) centreing etc and , with used stamps , the crispness and readability of the cancellation - which must have gone through the normal mail system on a letter, postcard etc - not parcel

So - looking at the King Edward VII 1/- stamp of which you have provided a very good scan ( and here I should say I am not an expert on GB stamps - just a generalist )

Colour? not perfect but not too bad

Perfs? many nibbled perfs

Centreing? good

Cancellation - looks to me like a parcel cancel - thick concentric rings and wider apart than a normal mail cancellation

So far not so good OK? :)

But worse is to follow - your stamp is very dirty - and you can't wash it - the colour would "run"

So what the others have said is right - your stamp catalogued at £35 has become a £1 stamp


BUT stick with it - hopefully you will become fascinated by the hobby - in which case your fun, research and a steep learning curve is just beginning - enjoy your adventure :D



THANK you so much for your detailed reply... wonderful information and I thank you because you reinforced my intrigue again today :)

It has been a busy day/night trying to work out a way to sort the albums. Am trying alphabetical as a start - except I suspect that Australia, UK, PNG and USA will need their own space.

Appreciate your enthusiastic and encouraging reply.. thank you again
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