'Ask the Grumpy Old Men's Club A Question' thread.

mrboggler · **Posted:** Tue Jul 08, 2008 15:11:23 pm

Bill everybody says grow the beard back. :wink:

and do I have some Lighthouses for you.+ Scouts.
our friend flew in on her broomstick this morning.

ozstamps · **Posted:** Tue Jul 08, 2008 15:13:09 pm

OttawaMike wrote:

In reading this thread, I can only conclude that there is a serious shortage of razors in Oz.

And the problem with that is ..... ??

Glen

ozstamps · **Posted:** Tue Jul 08, 2008 15:16:22 pm

mrboggler wrote:

Waroff. after having lost a bet that Sydney would Win at the weekend, has Shaved off his Beard.

So WHERE is the photographic evidence of THAT??!!!

We had the misfortune to trudge out to Telstra Stadium in the freezing cold on Saturday night, to see that embarrassing fiasco first hand. :twisted:

.

sherro · **Posted:** Tue Jul 08, 2008 15:27:26 pm

NOT having a beard is just soooooo uncool these days!

kennywkt · **Joined:** Tue May 01, 2007 15:47:12 pm **Posts:** 67888

But my problem is my girl friend will shave it off from mine if she see a single hair! :shock:

ozstamps · **Posted:** Tue Jul 08, 2008 15:42:22 pm

Hide the razor Kenny.

clemo · **Posted:** Tue Jul 08, 2008 16:27:11 pm

Glen said:

"We had the misfortune to trudge out to Telstra Stadium in the freezing cold on Saturday night, to see that embarrassing fiasco first hand."

What fiasco? The only reason I can think of to trudge out in the freezing cold would be to see the Brisbane Lions play, and did they lose?

(Wait until I get into the air-raid shelter before anyone answers)

lisamidge · **Posted:** Tue Jul 08, 2008 22:16:23 pm

Question for the Collective::: :?:

In reading alot of books/threads and other misc. items, I have come to conclusion that I am still dumbfounded on trying to work out values

If I have say a 6d Blue Roo with perf "OS", and there is also a constant flaw on that stamp, how would I work out the value of that item, because there is one value for the OS + there is value for the constant flaw, do I add the 2 together or is there some other way to work out it's value??? This one has always confused me.......

I'm sure between the Rolf Harris looka likes, an answer will prevail... :lol:

Keep it simple though, still learning all this. :oops:

Lisa

mrboggler · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2008 00:00:48 am

Hi Lisamidge,

Its a bit like working out the price for a good cover.

1. one checks the stamp. (perhaps cat at $5.00.)

2. check out the postmark. (an unusual one say $1.00.)

3. check out any labels attached. (a early Airmail Label $3.00.)

4.check any backstamps.( normal one 50cents)

5. check who it was addressed to.(someone important $2.00)

all the bits have a price,when all added together gives the selling price,is this case $11.50.
then you have the visual attraction etc.+ another $1.00.or $2.

so this cover could sell at $15.00.

the same rules apply to plain Stamps...add all the bits together.
+ or - for condition and this will give you a rough idea of price,

However in the case of very rare or Hi Value items, more care has to be given, and if not sure always get it checked out by an expert.as the catalogues do not cover every single thing,

I am sure Waroff can add a bit more to this as well.

parryone · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2008 14:55:15 pm

ozstamps wrote:

mrboggler wrote:

Waroff. after having lost a bet that Sydney would Win at the weekend, has Shaved off his Beard.

So WHERE is the photographic evidence of THAT??!!!
<snip>
.

Sorry for the delay, the photo eveidence is right here

In Waroffs defence he was posing with the swear box, this time,
but for those with an interest Gerry did make a few donations on Monday

crosscrescent · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2008 16:25:14 pm

Mr. Boggler wrote

Quote:

Its a bit like working out the price for a good cover.

1. one checks the stamp. (perhaps cat at $5.00.)

2. check out the postmark. (an unusual one say $1.00.)

3. check out any labels attached. (a early Airmail Label $3.00.)

4.check any backstamps.( normal one 50cents)

5. check who it was addressed to.(someone important $2.00)

all the bits have a price,when all added together gives the selling price,is this case $11.50.
then you have the visual attraction etc.+ another $1.00.or $2.

so this cover could sell at $15.00.

the same rules apply to plain Stamps...add all the bits together.
+ or - for condition and this will give you a rough idea of price,

However in the case of very rare or Hi Value items, more care has to be given, and if not sure always get it checked out by an expert.as the catalogues do not cover every single thing,

Thanks for sharing this knowledge. Never knew covers were valued this way. Have bought a few Federated Malay States covers and always wondered why some were more expensive than others. This definitely gives me some idea.

Cheers
Andrew
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mrboggler · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2008 21:16:29 pm

Glad you found that of some interst Andrew.

it was fairly basic,but that was what Lisamidge asked for.

but as we all know there would be lots of situations when that system would not work,
but as a basic start it works well.

but also for that system to work one has to have a knowledge of Stamps, Post Marks.Labels,envelopes, postage Rates, Cinderellas.etc.
and be able to find out the prices of such items and put them together to come up with a total price,so one need lots of books,and catalogues, and build up a good LIBRARY it is worth its weight in gold. :wink:

apptec · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2008 22:10:12 pm

Wouldn't it have to be a "Collection" of old Santa's.

waroff49 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2008 23:25:32 pm

I think that beardless photo is a touch-up job, no body could be that Hand-some.

I wouldn't listen to Ron's method of working out the price of covers- there's a $1.00 box, a $2 box and a box of POR. And I think at times, some of the $1 ones are for suckers like me- I started out spending $1-2 then $10 and now the skies the limit. (That is within the limits on an old pensioner :lol:

)

Ron should be down Thurs. to see what goodies you.ve stacked away for me......that is if Lawrence hasn't snaffled them already. I bet he was at the door panting and waiting for the arrival of the new batch.

mrboggler · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2008 23:30:16 pm

He was beaten by Gerry,who walked in as she walked out,
I pulled these ones out for you as I quickly went through them before the others did.

apptec your getting close to the chosen one. :wink:

Alastair · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2008 23:53:49 pm

A club for grumps would surely be a clump.

A clump of grumps!

:wink:

Alastair

mrboggler · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:10:37 am

parryone wrote:

ozstamps wrote:

mrboggler wrote:

Waroff. after having lost a bet that Sydney would Win at the weekend, has Shaved off his Beard.

So WHERE is the photographic evidence of THAT??!!!
<snip>
.

Sorry for the delay, the photo eveidence is right here

In Waroffs defence he was posing with the swear box, this time,
but for those with an interest Gerry did make a few donations on monday

In Actual Fact Waroff has The Swear Box Upside Down, :!:

and he has been caught with his "Finger in the Hole" so to speak.and was really trying to get some of his hard earned back so he could buy more of my covers. :wink:

annwiggy · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2008 17:41:31 pm

mrboggler wrote:

it seems I need to update the list of so heres the Update.

Amy.....Amazing.
Ann......Wiggy
Arls......Arlene.

I don,t think Skippy has tabled her application yet :?:

we thought it wise to include a few members from the gentle sex to help us keep on the straight and narrow,also within keeping with equality requirments. :roll:

if we get many more lady members we can change the name to the Grump Old Peoples Club (GOPC)

And that is only the 'A's" wait till we really get going!!

mrboggler · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2008 20:24:39 pm

Come on Ann try an Entry in this week Comp.

what is the Name given to a group of Retired Santas :?:

Judges choice on Mondays Meeting of the GOMC.( no bribing of any GOM will be permitted,)

one really good one has already been thought of and if someone guesses its THEY WILL WIN. :wink:

if not then,,, by popular vote.of GOMC.

waroff49 · **Posted:** Fri Jul 11, 2008 02:19:35 am

I really didn't have my finger in the hole.....I was just looking for the first farthing Ron earned as a lad and to make sure Gerry hadn't slipped in some of those washers about the size of a dollar coin.

(note to self: You've got to get Old Harry donating.....)

gandly · **Posted:** Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:19:47 am

Whilst not a member of the GOMC/GOPC I have been following the latest competition with interest.
I have it on good authority that the proper term for a group of Santas in one place is:

"A Stamp of Santas".

Cheers

gandly :wink:

waroff49 · **Posted:** Sat Jul 12, 2008 01:03:30 am

Ron,
I hope you went well at the auction today.

mrboggler · **Posted:** Sat Jul 12, 2008 08:20:32 am

well the auction is History all done and dusted,

But I hope Garry never pulls another auction on a Friday in the School Holidays,....Parking was a Nightmare, :!:

so by the time I got into the joint ALL the prime back positions were gone. :evil:

So I thought well,, being one who is not hard to miss in a crowd,lets go down the front for a change, :wink:

room to stretch my legs. :lol:

To my horror who should park himself immediatly BEHIND me but My Nemesis,"The Turk" Oh.S--t though I ,,,, the only good thing is ..he is not in his VAN today,which means he cant have ALL the lots.and there were 60 + carton lots many with 2,3,4,and even a 5 carton lot
So after a late start we got down to it,I let him have the first couple of lots ,as they held little interest for me,but then the 1st one I was interested in came up.and low and behold it went way above what I thought it would fetch.and was knocked down to a couple of little old ladies, :shock:

the next 2-3 went the same way, by this time the Turk and I were starting to sweat a bit.well this new compitition,was hurting us.
but it seemed perhaps they too had filled their car,and they slowly lapsed out of the bidding.
But it seems sitting in front of the Turk,worked to my advantage, as he seemed to let me have a few lots that I was sure he would have left me behind in the bidding,
I think perhaps he is moving a bit more upmarket as he was still sitting there after I left,and he is usually the 1st to go,

so by the end of the Penny section I was the winner of 9 lots inc 0ne 3 carton job,of which I drove home and left 2 cartons
sitting there,I was shell shocked by my wins
So spent an enjoyable evening watching St Kilda roll Carlton,while I rumaged through 9 cartons of Stuff,"Oh What Bliss"

with 2 cartons still to come ,,,it looks like we will do well yet again,,,,in one there was a large tin box,FULL of the last 4-5 years of Aust Post MINT in Blocks of 4,right up to $20.00.Have not counted it yet but would be $800.00.++ face and this box was not mentioned in the Auction Description, :wink:

and I too did not know it was there,until last night,
When I look through the lots before an Auction,as I am looking at Many Many lots mostly Large Cartons,I really do not have time to check out every single stamp,tin, envelope etc,so I just have a rummage see what I think is worth bidding for and the rest is unknown and where the profit lies,well mostly :cry:

so Bill shall I expect you on Monday, :?:

waroff49 · **Posted:** Sat Jul 12, 2008 14:25:52 pm

Ron, no mention of KGV,orchids, Roos, lighthouses only modern stuff,,,,,

Glad you had a win.

GOMC #4

mrboggler · **Posted:** Sat Jul 12, 2008 14:40:26 pm

Bill there is all sorts.and I did notice some GV,to 1/4d and Roos to 5/- but no Orchids that I spotted.

ScotsmanAbroad · **Posted:** Sat Jul 12, 2008 14:52:37 pm

Just rescued this cover from a guy at work who received it recently from Britain. Carry On movies on stamps.

Do any of the GOMC have a favourite Carry On movie?

Being a Kilmarnock FC fan, mine has to be Carry On Regardless!

sherro · **Posted:** Sat Jul 12, 2008 18:59:12 pm

mrboggler wrote:

Bill there is all sorts.and I did notice some GV,to 1/4d and Roos to 5/- but no Orchids that I spotted.

Any NON-Australian KGV? :wink:

waroff49 · **Posted:** Sat Jul 12, 2008 19:19:55 pm

Sherro you'd better get down there early on Monday, or there will be none.... :cry:

sherro · **Posted:** Sat Jul 12, 2008 19:25:44 pm

Small problem called............WORK!

waroff49 · **Posted:** Sat Jul 12, 2008 21:15:46 pm

Work, what's that!

GOMC4

mrboggler · **Posted:** Sun Jul 13, 2008 00:17:34 am

ScotsmanAbroad wrote:

Just rescued this cover from a guy at work who received it recently from Britain. Carry On movies on stamps.

Do any of the GOMC have a favourite Carry On movie?

Being a Kilmarnock FC fan, mine has to be Carry On Regardless!

My favorities where Carry on Up The Khyber,and Carry On Nurse,
you just changed costumes as each script was like the others but still enjoyable,"Chewing Gum for the Mind" :wink:

waroff49 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 13, 2008 01:38:30 am

I liked Carry On- Up the KYber.

mrboggler · **Posted:** Sun Jul 13, 2008 20:22:24 pm

Ok there is still time to lodge an entry into this weeks Comp.
we have 14 suggestions so far,none have come up with the winning answer yet,
but that does not matter as the Judges will award one entry from what we do have already as a winner,
to list what we have already ,,save you trolling through we have,,,,,,,,,,
Kris Kringles Past Jingles.
Cessation Of Santas.
Sleigh of Santas.
Stamp of Santas.
Clump of Santas.
Collection of Santas,
Jolly of Santas.
F--T of Santas, :oops:

Beard of Santas.
Tummy of Santas.
Sack of Santas.
Clause of Santas.
Grump of Santas,
Santa Plause.

So you still have time,judging will be Monday Afternoon (Australian Time)at the GOMC.
prize will be something useful and Philatelic,
post paid Anywhere in the world.

waroff49 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 13, 2008 22:24:48 pm

What about a Boggle of Satnas. eheh.

kennywkt · **Joined:** Tue May 01, 2007 15:47:12 pm **Posts:** 67888

Naked of Santas?

mrboggler · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2008 18:30:20 pm

A Grump of Santas

submitted by Scotsmanabroad,wins the prize,.

The one thought of by the GOMC. was a "Presents of Santas."

could be looked at 2 ways,a "presence or Presents,"

But no one picked it.,but our 2nd choice still wins,BUT from now on "THAT" picture will be called a Presents of Santas.

we had a good attendance at todays meeting,Dr Agony.Sherro,Waroff.Mr Boggler.Gold Finger, & Parryone.
they were like Kids at Christmas.but I must say the quietest I have ever heard,they were all up to their armpits in Boxes of stuff,(Pictures will Follow), :lol:

actually even as this is being typed there is still 3 of em here,
looks like I will have to Ring "the Time Gentlemen Please" Bell and Chuck them out,again. :wink:

so if ScotsmanAbroad would like to e-mail me we can organise his Prize,

Ron.

waroff49 · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2008 20:10:16 pm

Ron was telling fibs. We were -Hey Harry look at this....Is this what you want Sherro, etc.

Came closing time and yes we had to be kicked out. Ron didn't even get a chance to price my lot of KGV, postmarks, OS, States, and to make Revenuer happy, some old Tassie revenues, plus some RSA.

Ron entered in the swear BOX when he saw the carnage on the GB stamps. He saw the same signature/scribble on several of the lots. Even Gerry nearly wept when he saw a block of 8 ,£2 machins scribbled across.

(If you are saying why don't you show us- well some of the biro scribble just doesn't show up on scans. Some I've posted elsewhere.)

waroff49 · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2008 20:11:53 pm

As to the competition, well done Scotsmanabroad.

ScotsmanAbroad · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2008 20:44:35 pm

I won?!

Can I choose a prize from Ozstamps Rarity Page? :wink:

Don't make that a quiz question.....you couldn't print the answer :!:

I'll email you later.....I have to go back to work for a couple of hours....boss :evil:

gave me a split shift this month, I don't know, you ask for a two month holiday and he gets all uppity!......I'm getting my holiday though!

mrboggler · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2008 21:05:59 pm

2 MONTHS.

I am LUCKY if I get 2 days and I work for myself,.oh and the Tax Dept,

waroff49 · **Posted:** Tue Jul 15, 2008 20:09:30 pm

The continuing saga of Friday's auction.

As we were pushed out the door at the end of a pointed broom last night, I left my selection of items for Ron to price today (when I had more money in my pocket).

So I rolled up today, expecting to get a car park near the shop. Twas not to be. The whole car park was full, so it was off over the road to Carpark 6. I found the last spot there. Ron later told me there was an oldies group that had come to see "Mama Mia", all 133 of them.

I was now here. After the greetings with Lawrence(GOMC3) and enquiries as to his long weekend in NSW, it was down to business.
As usual I picked up a pile and started looking through it, when I noticed I was getting dirty looks from #3. I retreated with not a word being said. I got the message and moved to another box.

After about an hour or so (one can't hurry these big decisions or the hope of finding more "goodies"), Ron decidied it was time to tally up. Ron looked closely a all the stamps, covers, VG's, OS's , Malayan, and an old envelope of cheap RSA stamps. He sifted through them- all of a sudden........No you can't have this one....
Why not, it's only a Cinderella, I replied.

The the Harry (GOMC#2) came out in Ron.....It's a Sth Africa wartime Cinderella and I collect them and I don't have this one. I was happy to forgo this piece of old junk...( :lol:

)

Several times Ron lowered his glasses to look over the top..... as he has want to do when looking closely at items. I thought here goes.....clink $10....clink $10....clink $10 . I could see the cost was mounting. He looked up and said...you've got a lot of stuff here..... I thought eeerrrrhhhh. He then picked up a bundle of KGV 1d greens, at 10c each.....clink...clink another $10-20 DOLLARS.

He then reached down and wrote a figure on an old envelope. OK, Ron what's the damage.......GUESS.....I gave him a figure I thought it would come to.......NO- lower..... it took me 3 guesses to get the right amount. I was most surprised.

I'm going to shop here again I told him. He just smiled.

Any way, the figure was a bit higher than the money I had in my moth infested wallet, so I said I'll be back in 10 minutes. Exit stage right to go to the bank.

Ruturn in about 10 minutes and here's ParryOne (GOMC Associate #1- in training -as he's not old enough.) going through my bag of goodies and he has made several selections from mmmmmmmmmmMY plastic bag.

Did I give him a serve (not swear box quality though), red faced he apologised profusely and we went out and had a ciggie. Waters were smoothed and we calmed down....... You know of course this will be a topic for the GOMC thread......more red faces.

Just goes to show, what can happen when you leave your goodies unattended, like a bag at the airport. Also when more than 1 GOM is looking at the same lots at the same time.....Disaster....

ScotsmanAbroad · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 00:30:52 am

mrboggler wrote:

2 MONTHS.

I am LUCKY if I get 2 days and I work for myself,.oh and the Tax Dept,

You can't get holidays and you work for yourself? You may have a problem there.

You could try threatening yourself with industrial action. What about taking yourself to a tribunal? Or, take yourself to one side and have a quiet word. If none of these work then the rest of the GOMC will have to rise up and offer to work in your place while you give yourself a break

You don't want to become one of the oppressed masses. (I'm sure Waroff49 doesn't think of you as an oppressed mass :!:

)
Time to go I'm starting to ramble :shock:

waroff49 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 01:29:16 am

ScotsmanonBored,

Rambling is the first quality of a GOMC, there are several others but I shan't go into them here.

GOMC#4

mrboggler · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 07:53:41 am

ScotsmanAbroad wrote:

mrboggler wrote:

2 MONTHS.

I am LUCKY if I get 2 days and I work for myself,.oh and the Tax Dept,

You can't get holidays and you work for yourself? You may have a problem there.

You could try threatening yourself with industrial action. What about taking yourself to a tribunal? Or, take yourself to one side and have a quiet word. If none of these work then the rest of the GOMC will have to rise up and offer to work in your place while you give yourself a break

You don't want to become one of the oppressed masses. (I'm sure Waroff49 doesn't think of you as an oppressed mass :!:

)
Time to go I'm starting to ramble :shock:

Well

Had a quick meeting with my executive board this
morning and told myself of my problem,also told myself what you said,
anyway the outcome of the meeting is,I got fired,We are going to ask you to take over,so I won,t be going in today,
thanks for all your help. :shock:

P.S. you have shown yourself to be an excellent choice to join the GOMC,as an associate member,your application has been tabled,so as soon as your joining fee has been received,you can consider yourself one of us,

mrboggler · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 16:09:10 pm

seeing as I have been Fired :cry:

and am not in today,

I just though to ask Parryone as to the where abouts of the Pics.he took on Monday, :?:

Perhaps its been sooooooo busy he has not had time. :wink:

but methinks he,s just been skiving off again,

on ya Jason.

Ron.

ScotsmanAbroad · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 19:40:43 pm

mrboggler wrote:

Well

Had a quick meeting with my executive board this
morning and told myself of my problem,also told myself what you said,
anyway the outcome of the meeting is,I got fired,We are going to ask you to take over,so I won,t be going in today,
thanks for all your help. :shock:

No problem, I like to do my bit to help the proletariat :lol:

Now that you've been fired though, the rest of the GOMC will have to revolt......could the GOMC be revolting :?:

The Declaration of Human Rights states that "everyone is entitled to 2 weeks paid vacation". So we'll have to enlist some rock stars to do a Benefit Gig for you!! FREE MRBOGGLER!

mrboggler · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 19:50:08 pm

Oh you really know how to win friends and influence people. :lol:

I like the sound of that"" a Rock Benefit Concert.""

as far as the other members of the COMC,goes I think they are revolting enough as it is.without encouraging them anymore. :wink:

sherro · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 19:51:43 pm

I chucked Jason a sling to "lose" the photos. I'm sure he took one as I was pocketing something :cry:

mrboggler · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 20:07:06 pm

sherro wrote:

I chucked Jason a sling to "lose" the photos. I'm sure he took one as I was pocketing something :cry:

Well you will just have to explain to Margoz why the pics are not up yet. :roll:

MargoZ · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 20:08:43 pm

That's right...she's not happy!


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