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Syria and Bahrain, both killing, beating, torturing and imprisoning their citizens. Why does the west denigrate one and support the other? The difference, oil and arms sales. Hypocritical or what?

And when North Korea, currently at war with no-one, sends up a rocket the world’s media screams aggression, but when India do it, a week later, and remember that India is “at war” with Pakistan, no one complains. More double standards?

The biggest-ever data complex, to be completed in Utah in 2013, may take American citizens into a completely new reality where their emails, phone calls, online shopping lists and virtually entire lives will be stored and reviewed.
http://rt.com/news/utah-data-center-spy-789/

Wall Street Occupation http://occupywallst.org/
Over the last 30 years, the 1% have created a global economic system - neoliberalism - that attacks our human rights and destroys our environment, it is the reason why many people no longer have a job, it is the reason you cannot afford healthcare, education, food or your mortgage. Neoliberalism is your future stolen. Neoliberalism is everywhere, cutting labour standards, living wages, social contracts, and environmental protections, it creates global financial difficulties - crisis in Spain, in Greece, in the United States, Iceland, Italy, Ireland. It is a system built on greed and thrives on destabilizing shocks.
It allows the 1% to enrich themselves by impoverishing humanity. This has to stop! We must usher in an era of democratic and economic justice. We must change, we must evolve.
In Italy, we need to create www.basta.it, In order to demonstrate against; higher taxation, overpowering bureaucracy, government waste, un-necessary State control, and nine, or is it eleven? police forces, the forces of order.

A little civil dis-obedience might just work wonders

DIS-OBEDIRE - RESISTERE - VINCERERE as il Duce could have said

Did you read about the Bilbao Beat-Up? Do you care about human rights? Theirs? Yours?
How much less is your money worth, and why?
What are the governments hiding?

But, perhaps with bread and a circus, or a football match, or the Olympic games, and how corrupt are their organisers and comittee members............it doesn't matter too much....yet

IF……….

Remember the film about the schoolboy revolution in Cheltenham, England? (website with held to avoid a slapped wrist from the moderators.www.reelstreets.com)

Information Freedom, IF, and its distribution via the internet has brought about the fall of the Iron Curtain, opened up China to western ideas and enabled millions of ordinary citizens to investigate real or imagined abuses of power and to demand transparency in local and national governments and companies. Occupy Wall Street, despite police pressure, and in some cases, brutality, thrives because of the internet.

The Whistleblower film, and the subsequent use of the name, by the forces of order, has led brave investigative journalists throughout the world to look closely at various abuses of power, often with risk to life and limb. Julian Assange and Bradley Manning by exposing governmental corruptions are currently suffering house arrest, more than 750 days for Assange and isolation and imprisonment for Manning. Both so far without trial.

The internet empowers us all. Take full advantage of it before it is closed down by the currently proposed restrictive legislations, see ACTA. PIPA. SOPA and now........ http://rt.com/usa/news/senate-sopa-new-internet-847/. It really is time to stop them

An increasing clamour to restrict and control the internet on behalf of the US government, the Pentagon, the intelligence community and their private corporate arms, could result in a staged cyber attack being used as justification.http://www.prisonplanet.com/false-flag- ... ernet.html and see the threat posed by the overall control of “cloud” computing.


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Please copy and paste these links to all of your friends, and, even allowing for half or even three quarters of all the reports to be wrong, incorrect, conspiracy theories, fascist or communist plots, or scare-mongering, it still leaves a disturbing percentage that need to be seriously investigated.

If you don’t approve of “whistle-blowing”, think of the US NY cop in the 60’s, Serpico; and his continuing efforts; Serpico, the NY cop who exposed the corruption in the NYPD, suggested that the whistle-blowers should be called the lamplighters. Exposing corruption, graft, abuse of power and government cover-ups.

All of the following links are from articles written by, apparently, serious, and well informed, researchers / journalists; Just Google in the main name, and a short sub-text.

These are some of the more disturbing;;

http://www.cnbc.com/id/39670564/ and http://www.cnbc.com/id/39670564/ 'Mortgage Loan Pools' Latest Thing Looming Over Big Banks, Bank of America, CDS's (credit default swaps) mortgage loan pools and CDO's (collateralized debt obligations) and fraud allegations

BHOPAL, gas leak poisons thousands, June 7th 2010, The Independant

BIKINI Atoll, British servicemen and locals exposed to nuclear radiation. The Times 13th Oct 2005

BILBAO, 14.30 CET 29th June 2010. Euronews broadcast terrifying video of apparently middle-class, middle-aged, protesters being beaten-up by red shouldered uniformed officers of the “forces of order”, all red crash-helmeted and without visible signs of identification. By 19.00 CET all video was pulled and no further reference made. http://oneclick.indiatimes.com/topic/Bilbao#, has a few shots, but already some of the photos are not available. An Associated Press photo shows a young woman being punched in the neck by an officer of the law. There are only three photos to be found……….anywhere!?!
Ah, on http://topics.pe.com/photo/093669k2fygjs?q=Bilbao, there is a shot of an unarmed man being threatened or attacked by a baton wielding member of the forces of order. Which we now have copied, just in case it disappears! Strange that out of the thousands of photos taken, only two or three appear anywhere. There are however hundreds of photos showing the train strike, same city, same day. Curious, or what? Conspiracy, or is it just me being paranoid?

BOLOGNA bombing, a “terrorist” bomb, probably planted by Italian Government agents in order to instigate draconian new measures of control over their population. Now, with about nine, or is it eleven, “forces of order”, discounting the military, the Mafia, (Sicily), Camorra (Naples), & Ndranghetta seem to be as powerful as ever, Italian politicians are protected, financially and legally and public employees put in an absolute minimum of work and effort. http://www.threemonkeysonline.com /als/_bologna_train_station_bombing_1980.htmlhttp://www.centroimpastato.it/other ... italy.php3

BRABANT Massacre, undertaken by NATO “sponsored” terrorists. The “stay behind” army. http://www.informationdelight.info/ency ... of_Brabant

CANADIAN Shrinking Gold, the strange case of a damp basement or what? www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1743914, www.ottawacitizen.com/Business/Mint...g ... story.html, www.zerohedge.com/.../latest-gold-fraud ... ally-empty

CHELTENHAM GCHQ, mysterious deaths, subject of the film Whistleblowers, www.reelstreets.com, Katherine Gun’s story, http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2004 ... tion.iraq1

CHINESE banking take-over of US / Chinese trading, how the Chinese through their establishment of hundreds of branches of the Bank of China, are circumventing the US banking system, and by virtue of their hugely increased “turnover” will establish the Yuan as an international “reserve” currency within a few years. Jonathan Fenby The Guardian “It bank-rolls the US federal deficit and has become a vital link in the worldwide manufacturing and supply chain”, 26th June 2010. And do remember that your corner HSBC is not a British bank, it is the Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation.


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CLOUD computing, is it the first step towards state/government/big business control of the internet, and, your life? How long will it be before "they" decide what you can view? From Wikipedia…. “Details are abstracted from the users, who no longer have need for expertise in, or control over, the technology infrastructure "in the cloud" that supports them”. Scary, or what?
CT and breast cancer scans, what they don’t tell you about the associated risks. Independent 19th December 2009.Columbia University: Body Scanners Increase Risk Of Skin Cancer, www.prisonplanet.com
DIANA, Princess of Wales, death, and mystery white Citroen AX, not a Fiat Uno. http://www.public-interest.co.uk/diana/dianafuwit.htm
DESERT Storm, injections of anti-nerve-gas “antidotes” cripple hundreds of servicemen. 16th May 2004, the Times.
Dr KELLY, and the impossibility of suicide, his coroner’s incomplete report and the “dark forces” at work in the shadows. Miles Goslett, Daily Mail, Cover Up, July 1st 2010.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0ujw5yJuO

ENGLAND BUYS $170B UST BONDS, The Chinese dump US Treasury Bonds and England accumulates them. Or more accurately, the US Fed hides its vast monetization efforts in the United Kingdom account ledger item. No way, to the reasonable man, can Britain purchase $170 billion in US Treasury bonds in five months, from legitimate sources of savings!! In May 2010, http://news.goldseek.com /GoldenJackass/1279742400.php

FANNY and Freddie, look at this video, http://www.thinkbigworksmall.com/mypage/archive/1/29027, and they, F&F, owe more than all the other banks put together, and “haven’t repaid a red cent” Fox News report, late June 2010.

FIAT Money, and the British and US mints producing endless amounts of paper money, and the comparisons with Germany in the 20’s, Argentina in the 80’s, and Zimbabwe in the 90’s. Google inflation.

A vicious circle is created in which more and more inflation is created with each wave of the ever increasing money printing cycle. Hyperinflation becomes visible when there is an unchecked increase in the money supply. Wikipedia.

FRECCE Tricolore, air display crash, blamed onto Gladio, the Italian State “terrorist” organisation, see the Ramstein air-show disaster August 28, 1988 see February 22, 2008, episode of Shockwave on The History Channel, which disputes the official version.

FOX Attacks Twins, in East London, .......on the first floor! Can this be real or is it a serious attempt to discredit foxes to bring back fox hunting? The Times, London, July 1st 2010.

G8/20 meeting in Italy, Diaz / Genoa, http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/12/414323.html and murder of journalist by Italian Police.

GLADIO, Europe’s “Stay Behind” secret armies, and the Brabant Massacres. Wikipedia.com and two of the pilots killed in the Ramstein crash were due to give testimony at an official enquiry into Gladio. Shockwave, History Channel.

GOLD and its huge rise, after 20 years of stagnation, and its “relative” value compared to Silver. And, the fact that there is no gold, www.businessinsider.com, and now it is sliding down again.

GOLD Bar Count, the mystery of the shrinking lists,
www.businessinsider.com/mystery-why-did ... nk-2009-10 , regator.com/p/.../mystery_why_did_glds_published_list_of_gold/

MORE LATER, stay tuned.


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GUANTANAMO BAY, hundreds of sites.

HOMEOPATHIC medicines and why the BMA are opposed to them, as it was to osteopathy, hygiene, disinfectants and dozen of other benefits to health. Nick Triggle, BBC News, 29th June 2010

KENNEDY Killings, just Google kennedy killings and see who perhaps killed them, and who perhaps they killed.

LOCAL authority waste and abuse ( and in Coventry more than a third of the total workforce was employed by local government, Sky News report 30th June 2010)

LOCKERBIE
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... omber.html Who is still alive some three years after release on humanitarian grounds as having only a few months left to live.

9/11 and the three towers. Three towers? And you only heard about the Twin Towers? More than 1,000 architects and engineers signed a petition demanding that Congress begin a new investigation into the destruction of the three World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9-11. http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/v ... 1_214.html

MANDELSON / Hitler look-alike/ anti-Christ / prince of darkness, Daily Mail report, A BAD, BAD MAN, Max Hastings, June 4th 2010. Lord-Mandelson-his-wealthy-friends-and-the-Libyan-connection.html

MI5 censored, www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article7021976.ece, a cover-up by one of Britain’s secret services.
Michael MOORE’s films, Capitalism; A Love Story, Sicko, Bowling for Columbine, Fahrenheit 9/11 and many others. Astonishing investigations into mal practices. Attempt by US government to seize the film Sicko, Charlotte Higgins The Guardian, Saturday 19 May 2007
PIAZZA Fontana bombing, probably carried out by Italian State sponsored terrorists, see Wikipedia
POGO, set up by Serpico, the NY policeman, is the Project on Government Openess. www.pogo.org
SERPICO, Wikipedia; Francesco Vincent Serpico (born April 14, 1936) is an American retired New York City Police Department (NYPD) officer who is most famous for testifying against police corruption in 1971.[2] The majority of Serpico's fame came after the release of the 1973 film, Serpico, which starred Al Pacino in the lead role. He’s three years older than me, and bravely started his fight FORTY years before me.
SPAM, get it restricted by sending to the email IP addresses, .hotmail, .google .yahoo, dot everything else, a full copy of the email and send it to abuse@ IP address, or spam@ IP address. See also the 419 sites, the scam busters. fraudgallery.com/
STOCKWELL, London killing of young Brazilian by Metropolitan Police. www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/jan/20/menezes.topstories3
Ian TOMLINSON, Premeditated murder, obviously not. Murder, no, an accident. Manslaughter, of course, the man died as a direct result of his fall occasioned by the unnecessary use of excessive force by a British policeman who had his number obscured and the lower part of his face cover with a scarf. Unlawful killing, absolutely. And it appears that that was not the first complaint against this policeman. ian-tomlinson-death-police-officer-will-not-face-criminal-charges-the-guardian. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/fina ... iries.html
TUNGSTON slabs in gold bars, www.beforeitsnews.com/story/0000000000013634 www.whitenewsnow.com/.../1627-tungsten- ... where.html


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USTICA Massacre, Italian plane crash off the Sicilian coast, 1980 attempted assassination of Libyan president Gadaffi. Was it the French military? What evidence was covered by the Italian military? Eight Italian military men related to the case died, but not of old age. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerolinee_Itavia_Flight_870
WIKILEAKS, and the embarrassment to US government, Jerome Taylor, June 10, the Independent, Archie Bland, 8th April 2010, same newspaper, and Fox News reports June 2010. See also Trafigura's super-injunction, the CRU's 'Climategate' leak and the BNP membership list.
And, at Easter was the Battle of Stokes Croft, in Bristol. Huge police action, which was missed by the main BBC news. How strange when they have saturation cover in Libya, and their own studio in Bristol. http://bristol.indymedia.org/article/704202, and the other side of the story http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-13169684
Bradley Manning, the soldier who sent the documents to Wikileaks, may have broken the law, but until he has been tried he cannot possibly be guilty. However he is in prison, in solitary confinement in the USA. So, if the US authorities can treat one of their own nationals in this fashion, what hope do any of the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay have. He was moved at Easter to a more humane prison, which by implication suggests that the US accept that they have at least one inhumane penitentiary. http://www.bradleymanning.org/. Unhappily Obama said that Manning broke the law. Trial by President rather than jury? http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn ... 14/manning

AMERICAN SPIES, 10 Russian agents, fresh and new, very quickly swapped for old stale American spies held by the Russians. So quick, why? Piles of dirty linen to be washed in public? www.bbc.co.uk/news/10564994

AVANDIA, the drug that caused 100,000 heart attacks. Glaxo, Smith, Kline and 13,000 strong class action, www.nytimes.com/2010/02/20/health/polic ... tml?...all

BANK CHARGES, several people querying bank “rip-off” charges. www.moneysavingexpert.com › Reclaim £1,000s
RISPERDOL, Doctor’s pay-offs. Teenage boys growing breasts. John & Johnson, Prof. Biederman, Pfizer, Drug scandal. www.saundersblog.com/2008/.../johnson_j ... p_in_r.h...
THE NEXT NUCLEAR PROBLEM? http://www.businessinsider.com/faa-clos ... ant-2011-6
US government to sue 17 US banks, big news on the 1st & 2nd Sept 2011, now all quiet. www.guardian.co.uk/business/.../us-auth ... s-subprime
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So, apart from football, pop music and pretty boring details of lonely lives on facebook, don't any of you out there have any ideas about the real world. Perhaps it's my age....or perhaps it's yours.

In Italy, already noted for the State control of the media, parliament is now seriously considering censorship of the internet.

Please copy and paste these links to all of your friends, and, even allowing for half or even three quarters of all the reports to be wrong, incorrect, conspiracy theories or scare-mongering, it still leaves a disturbing percentage that need to be seriously investigated.

If you don’t approve of “whistle-blowing”, think of the US NY cop in the 60’s, Serpico, and his continuing efforts which he called “lamp-lighting”. Bringing illumination to dark places.

These are the most recent;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0ujw5yJuO

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BLOW THE WHISTLES, LIGHT THE LAMPS
CONTINUE WITH INFORMATION FREEDOM
IF………………………………
OK, maybe you are too old, too disinterested, too tired, too frightened and too………everything else. But if you don’t act now your children, and their children, will be corralled into subject obedience by dominating governments and global companies, and the powers that they wield for good, …………. or evil.
"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing."
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Whistleblower homepage, details of the programme investigating anti-social or criminal practices in organisations and companies throughout the UK. www.bbc.co.uk/consumer/tv_and_radio/whistleblower/
But another “whistleblower” site, www.theemperorsnewclothes.com, is no longer on-line, we wonder why?
Is your understanding of these problems determined by main stream media, Fox News, CBC, NBC and the BBC. Murdoch and his gang demonstrate the power of the media, and are now being shown up as crooks. Have you seen Aljazeera and RT for an alternative view.
Have you ever had time to compare the wages, pensions, health, housing, insurance and educational benefits available to your representative members of Parliament, Congress etc. Try it, you won’t like it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_of_ ... Parliament
Any others we should add?
And see; www.prisonplanet.com www.threemonkeysonline.com www.beforeitsnews.com www.news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1306353600.php
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THE REVOLUTION
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I AM
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I must be thick ... I have absolutely no idea what all the above is about. :?:

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The good old conspiracy theories wagon has been rolled out again.

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I think there's a MASSIVE conspiracy theory to create ever-more outlandish conspiracy theories.

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They probably are the aliens just trying to create conspiracy havoc before they invade :idea:


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Did Elvis shoot JFK .. or am I mixing up my theories?



No, NO! It was JFK shot Elvis! He (JFK, that is) was never really assassinated, he just decided to become a CIA wet operative. I thought everybody knew that??

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I love a good conspiracy theory, as long as it is properly laid out and able to be followed by those of us with something between our ears. Unfortunately, none of the nonsense in the first few posts goes anywhere near meeting that criteria.

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Well, he was certainly wet at the end. But wasn't it a Chinese submarine that whisked him off to receive his rewards for being a secret Chinese agent all those years?

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Jon will not be happy until all his conspiracies come true, and he can tell us "I told you so".
Unfortunately the World Wide Web will be down, and Skynet will be in control, so no one will hear him :( .

There may be some true in there somewhere, and if you throw enough mud, something is bound to stick.

As the proverb goes: "Even a nut is bound to find a blind squirrel every now and then"

What! Who said that :shock:
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As the proverb goes: "Even a nut is bound to find a blind squirrel every now and then"

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Just a wild guess here, but perhaps the proverb is "Even a blind squirrel is bound to find a nut every now and then" :?: :D

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One of my favourite conspiracy theories is that none of the Apollo missions ever made it to the moon. Now that a low flying spacecraft has taken photographs of some of the landing sites, the theories are (apparently) being updated. They sent the Apollo Landers, but they were unmanned.

I used to work at a Naval Dockyard here in Melbourne, many years ago. We refitted and built warships for the RAN. I remember the local rag proclaiming, in big headlines, that we were actually building nuclear powered frigates. It wasn't even the April 1 edition. :D

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:wink: (I know) See, thaaaaaaaaat's the gag. :D

Still anonymous .

Anyway, it sounded way funnier in my head :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Every forum has "whackjobs" and they usually waste no time in announcing themselves.

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Every forum has "whackjobs" and they usually waste no time in announcing themselves.

Thanks, Elvis.

PS - I live in Florida and play shuffleboard with Martin Bormann


Do you use Martin's leg bone or arm bone? :lol:

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With the links in the OP's post's, I would suggest that his 'copy-paste' email of the entire thing has been doing the rounds for a while and the pages in many cases are now so old they have been removed.

Having most of it in alphabetical order is a bit of a giveaway! :roll:

The stuff people blindly pass on to others without even checking. :shock:

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After all the ranting & raving the OP did, the Sex Pistols don't sound so bad now - at least they only annoyed the Queen !!

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"FOX Attacks Twins, in East London, .......on the first floor! :shock: :shock: :shock: Can this be real or is it a serious attempt to discredit foxes to bring back fox hunting? The Times, London, July 1st 2010."

O.K.! That It, when are you guys gona' wake up! I kid you not. Read it.....Beleive it!

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As someone who frequents the Randi Forum, I know that there are some people there who never met a conspiracy theory that they did not fall in love with.

My two favourites at the moment are Obama was born in Kenya, and Freemen on the Land. Don't Google and read the Freemen stuff unless you want your brain to explode.

BTW, Paul McCartney really did die in a motorcycle accident in 1967, and the Paul lookalike contestant winner has been pretending to be Paul ever since. Gerge and John were assasinated as they were about to spill the beans - It is all an Illuminati plot to get the fake Sir Paul into the House of Lords, and fill the water jugs with LSD in what will be an attempt to get England to switch to the Euro!

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"My two favorites at the moment are Obama was born in Kenya......"

You calling his Grandma a liar? :D

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"My two favorites at the moment are Obama was born in Kenya......"

You calling his Grandma a liar? :D


I'm calling the person who did selective editing of the original interview a liar. :D

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Fair enough. I'll stop for now.

This has been entertaining.

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He originally posted under 'A Euro dollar collapse' and was advised to take his post and begin a new thread, which he has done. Regretfully, rather than begin a thread he has gone for a blanket coverage. So may I suggest he slows down, re-think his post, lose the links and return when ready to explain in simple terms which conspiracy he would like to discuss.

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Methinks you ask far, far too much! :lol:

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Methinks you're right Peter, but I would have liked to have known what Freddy was into Fanny for?....$$$

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I presume it was some sort of reference to Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae in the US. I must admit to being thoroughly tired of the conspiracy theories around the GFC. I think the causes are relatively clear now, poor regulation (indeed deregulation) combined with risk taking and a good dose of fraudulent activity on the part of a few (AAA rated sub-prime mortgages, anyone?).

There is a reason the Australian financial system largely sailed through the crisis, efficient and appropriate regulation combined with a desire, by the institutions themselves, to manage risk.

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I think the OP did his job rather well, boys ... after all, how many threads get a response of 38 postings within the first day? :lol: :lol:

Oh ... and for the record ... Elvis was abducted by aliens, and therefore could not possibly have been shot by JFK (although it would have been ironic if he had).


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I presume it was some sort of reference to Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae in the US. I must admit to being thoroughly tired of the conspiracy theories around the GFC. I think the causes are relatively clear now, poor regulation (indeed deregulation) combined with risk taking and a good dose of fraudulent activity on the part of a few (AAA rated sub-prime mortgages, anyone?).

There is a reason the Australian financial system largely sailed through the crisis, efficient and appropriate regulation combined with a desire, by the institutions themselves, to manage risk.


Now, now ... Peter ... you're making far too much sense, which is clearly off topic.


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One of my favourite conspiracy theories is that none of the Apollo missions ever made it to the moon. Now that a low flying spacecraft has taken photographs of some of the landing sites, the theories are (apparently) being updated. They sent the Apollo Landers, but they were unmanned.

As a collector of Project Apollo thematic/topical material, and a bit of a "student" of the project, I have to comment on this particular "theory".

At its peak, there were something like HALF A MILLION people employed on the various aspects of the project - science, manufacturing, logistics, etc, etc (and that's before you get to the three guys at the pointy end of the thing...).

Does anyone SERIOUSLY think that many people could have been hoodwinked, or that they were all "in" on the conspiracy. And that in the intervening 40 years (is it REALLY 40 years???!!!) not one of them would have blown the whistle?

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Gavin, not to mention 6 (was it?) landings that would have had to have been faked. :D

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Did Elvis shoot JFK .. or am I mixing up my theories?



No, NO! It was JFK shot Elvis! He (JFK, that is) was never really assassinated, he just decided to become a CIA wet operative. I thought everybody knew that??


You are right I read that on Wikipedia somewhere. :mrgreen:

Here is a TRUE story.

Elvis (who was addicted to, and died from drugs) went to the White House to ask Nixon if he might be appointed a Federal Marshal to help combat drug use.

True story ..... only in the USA.

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Certainly my favorite has to be the Area 51 Conspiracy that our Government has been hiding a crashed Alien vessel and the remains of it's crew. As one of our comedians stated, "The Alien ship navigated through Meteoroid showers, Asteroid fields, the entry into our atmosphere but those Nevada Telephone lines are a real bi**h".

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I read it is untrue Hilary and Bill were ever married.

It was in a mass circulation National high-brow journal. The 'Washington Enquirer' or 'National Enquirer' or something.

The 'kids' were adopted from rejects that Oprah and Madonna had no room for.

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Those reports must have come from our (USA) most trusted News source.

http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/49 ... -mermaids/

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Perhaps the conspiracy theorists are all conspiring together so they have something to talk about, after all they must live very drab and boring lives :idea:


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See what you did! You spooked him. You're suppose to turn up the heat on the pot o' water real slooooooow, otherwise the frog jumps out of the pot.

Anyway, you guy's are just making stuff up.(well, maybe some of). You know, the wacky untrue stuff; like Elvis is dead :(

On the other hand, Jay was an authentic tinfoil hat wearing, Black helicopter seeing "real deal".

And, thank goodness, for once they were on your side of the pond!

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On the other hand, Jay was an authentic tinfoil hat wearing, Black helicopter seeing "real deal".



OK, who is this Jay you mention??? Are you deliberately trying to play with our heads?? I smell a conspiracy in the offing!

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The 'kids' were adopted from rejects that Oprah and Madonna had no room for.

I thought the Hollywood pecking order for rummaging through God's Little Dumpsters was Angelina Jolie first, and whatever leftovers she doesn't adopt are fair game for other celebs who are feeling down about the fact they haven't been in the gossip rag pages for 5 minutes.

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