Share Your Britain Used In Ireland Stamp and Cover Images

CMJ · **Posted:** Wed Apr 06, 2011 03:01:47 am

Hi,

Just joined the board, and I thought I would start by sharing a few images. More to come when I get the hang of it.

1842 1d red-brown plate 23 pair [DJ-DK] on entire from Ballina to Dublin dated 3 Dec 1848, cancelled with a single black Irish numeral (29 Ballina).

Chris.

skilo54 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 06, 2011 03:46:01 am

Here are a couple from my collection:

HAve a Good One,

Skilo54

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:49:46 am

Nice ones, Skilo!

skilo54 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:27:05 am

Thanks Flying Tiger!

It is neat being able to compare cancellations that are apart almost 20 years to the day! There are some really nice examples in this thread, kudos to you for startin'-er up!!

Have a Good One,

Skilo54

skilo54 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:32:47 pm

Here is a ½d. Downey used on a postcard from Dublin.....

...at least I am pretty sure it is from Dublin.

See ya later,
Skilo54

admin · **Posted:** Wed Apr 06, 2011 13:31:50 pm

cmj wrote:

Hi,

Just joined the board, and I thought I would start by sharing a few images. More to come when I get the hang of it.

1842 1d red-brown plate 23 pair [DJ-DK] on entire from Ballina to Dublin dated 3 Dec 1848, cancelled with a single black Irish numeral (29 Ballina).

Chris.

Great scan for a new member -- keep them up! :mrgreen:

asmodeus · **Posted:** Wed Apr 06, 2011 16:44:41 pm

cmj wrote:

Hi,

Just joined the board, and I thought I would start by sharing a few images. More to come when I get the hang of it.

1842 1d red-brown plate 23 pair [DJ-DK] on entire from Ballina to Dublin dated 3 Dec 1848, cancelled with a single black Irish numeral (29 Ballina).

Chris.

Nice cover! Especially the cancel: Only one strike for a pair= contrary to regulations! Irish ones are a little more rare.

CMJ · **Posted:** Thu Apr 07, 2011 00:17:43 am

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Only one strike for a pair= contrary to regulations

I didn't want to use the terminolgy in one of my first posts - it seems to get a lot of people a hot under the collar. But it is the correct term - every stamp was supposed to be cancelled individually. I particularly like pairs like this as you can see much more of the stamp and the Queen's profile than with a central cancel.

I will dig out a few more.

CMJ · **Posted:** Thu Apr 07, 2011 00:21:39 am

Today's offering (in a pathetic attempt to get my post count up).

1841 1d red-brown (black plate 2) on entire from Belfast to Moy dated 24 February 1842.

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Thu Apr 07, 2011 02:29:05 am

Those are some really nice examples, cmj. Keep them coming!

CMJ · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 01:43:06 am

Quote:

Keep them coming

Be careful what you ask for. Just kidding.
I didn't really think I had many Irish cancellations but it turns out I have more than I thought. Here are a few more singles from various places in Ireland.

214 Numeral cancel of Enniskillen

218 Numeral cancel of Fermoy

445 Numeral cancel of Waterford

Chris.

asmodeus · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 02:07:02 am

A few stamps of EVII and GV

asmodeus · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 02:08:53 am

Dublin- Columbia- single impression machine cancel.

asmodeus · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 02:10:41 am

Belfast

skilo54 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 02:24:30 am

asmodeus wrote:

You would have thought they could have lined up a little straighter for the photo-op! Geeesh! :lol:

Excellent stamps Asmodeus and Cmj! I really like those Downey Heads too Asmodeus! (hint-hint) :wink:

Off to have a look, back in a bit!

Skilo54

asmodeus · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 02:27:08 am

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I really like those Downey Heads too Asmodeus! (hint-hint) :wink:

asmodeus · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 02:27:48 am

Irish cancel "90"= Cahir

asmodeus · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 02:31:19 am

This one could be "55"= Ballyshannon

and this one. I´m not able to identify the number- 1???

europhil · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 03:31:10 am

asmodeus wrote:

and this one. I´m not able to identify the number- 1???

18x, possibly 185.

skilo54 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 05:11:42 am

Here are a couple Dublin's on Postcards, one heavily inked and a tad smudgy, the other nicely struck:

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:32:54 am

cmj wrote:

Quote:

Keep them coming

Be careful what you ask for. Just kidding.
I didn't really think I had many Irish cancellations but it turns out I have more than I thought.

Same here. When I started collecting Britian used in Ireland, they seemed few and far between. But after I obtained some relevant literature, the search has been much easier. What started out as 4 examples several months ago is turning into a nice collection. Now to fill in some gaps with Iriah Maltese Crosses.

Keep them coming!

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:35:10 am

asmodeus wrote:

A few stamps of EVII and GV

That is a nice little selection you have there.

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:36:33 am

skilo54 wrote:

Here are a couple Dublin's on Postcards, one heavily inked and a tad smudgy, the other nicely struck:

Those are not Downey Heads, Skilo! :lol:

Nice examples though.

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:45:34 am

josto wrote:

Hi!

I sorted those out, which I thought could be irish postmarks. Am I right with these? I could also show detailed scans of single stamps. There is also a postally used fiscal stamp if I`m right.

Greetings

Gee, I don't know how I missed reading this posting from two months ago, but somehow I did.

Yes, they all appear to be Irish postmarks (quite a nice selection by the way). I am unsure if that is indeed a postal cancel on the fiscal stamp (top row, eight stamp). Could you provide a higher resolution scan?

skilo54 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 14:37:40 pm

Flying Tiger wrote:

Those are not Downey Heads, Skilo! :lol:

Nice examples though.

I know my friend...... I know, :roll:

Looks like I zigged when I should have zagged!

What I really meant to post were these of course! :wink:

Now I will be able to sleep tonight, I wouldn't want anyone thinking I was playing for the other team! :lol:

Have a Good One,

Skilo54

asmodeus · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 18:56:52 pm

Postal stationery

CMJ · **Posted:** Sat Apr 09, 2011 01:40:34 am

A nice dated piece with 1d's and 2d from Boyle (numeral 70)

Pity the numerals aren't blue to match the date stamp, but you can't have everything.

Chris.

asmodeus · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 01:42:05 am

Penny Reds
32= Ballinasloe
232= Galway

asmodeus · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 02:08:11 am

62= Belfast

186= Dublin

asmodeus · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 02:14:01 am

303= Limerick

asmodeus · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 02:15:28 am

cmj wrote:

A nice dated piece with 1d's and 2d from Boyle (numeral 70)

Pity the numerals aren't blue to match the date stamp, but you can't have everything.

Chris.

A very nice piece!

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 09:04:53 am

asmodeus wrote:

cmj wrote:

A nice dated piece with 1d's and 2d from Boyle (numeral 70)

Pity the numerals aren't blue to match the date stamp, but you can't have everything.

Chris.

A very nice piece!

Nice piece indeed. Any idea what the 4d rate was for?

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 09:57:19 am

Here is one I picked up today.

It is not a full strike, but the "PPOQUIN" of "CAPPOQUIN" is readable.

The cancel is on a Downey Head so Skilo will be happy :lol:

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:00:06 am

Another example I picked up today. This one is from Tullamore:

asmodeus · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 21:37:18 pm

Flying Tiger wrote:

Another example I picked up today. This one is from Tullamore:

I like this one- Tullamore, my father is born there.

marco76uk · **Posted:** Mon Apr 11, 2011 05:35:21 am

Again from my great-grandfather's collection...

He was Northern Irish, so a great deal of his GB material is "used in Ireland".

Here a few examples:

1935 silver jubilee first day cover - Belfast

1d lilac 14 dot - Moate

Penny Stars - Dungannon

... and for those who like Tullamore ...

joelk · **Posted:** Mon Apr 11, 2011 06:36:17 am

This should qualify. According to the Whitney, this stamp was cancelled in Monasterevan:

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Mon Apr 11, 2011 08:17:21 am

joelk wrote:

This should qualify. According to the Whitney, this stamp was cancelled in Monasterevan:

My reference agrees with your reference Joel.

It is a nice strike too.

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Mon Apr 11, 2011 08:24:48 am

marco76uk wrote:

Again from my great-grandfather's collection...

He was Northern Irish, so a great deal of his GB material is "used in Ireland".

Here a few examples:

1935 silver jubilee first day cover - Belfast

1d lilac 14 dot - Moate

Penny Stars - Dungannon

... and for those who like Tullamore ...

Nice examples, Marco.

Apparently between 1838-1860, the spelling of "Tullamoore" (your example) changed to "Tullamore" (my example)

skilo54 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 11, 2011 16:12:27 pm

Flying Tiger wrote:

The cancel is on a Downey Head so Skilo will be happy :lol:

A nice stamp Flying Tiger, which watermark does it have? I would like to add this date to my notes, I make it to be NO 3 13 (November 3 1913).

I appreciate you checking this for me if you can, Thanks!

Skilo54

CMJ · **Posted:** Mon Apr 11, 2011 20:55:30 pm

Quote:

Any idea what the 4d rate was for?

I don't think there was a normal 4d rate. The rates (from memory) at the time were :

up to ½ ounce - 1d
up to 1 ounce - 2d
up to 4 ounces - 6d
up to 6 ounces - 10d

It is possible that it was originally 2d and then re-directed on arrival which would cost another 2d, but it would have had to have been sent within Boyle and all three stamps seem to be cancelled at the same time - so that is unlikely.

More likely, I think, is that it could have been part of a 6d (or more) piece and the right most stamp(s) were removed when it was trimmed. The right-hand red doesn't appear properly tied to the piece on the right side and the piece has been trimmed along that edge.

Or it may simply have weighed 2 ounces and someone thought: 1 ounce = 2d, so 2 ounces must = 4d.

Chris.

CMJ · **Posted:** Tue Apr 12, 2011 01:31:32 am

Just to contradict my previous post, I came across this Post Office Notice of 7 Jan 1840 (just the scan, not an original).

So it looks like 4d was just the rate for between 1 ounce and 2 ounces.

Chris.

CMJ · **Posted:** Tue Apr 12, 2011 01:36:58 am

... and quickly onto another stamp (before anyone notices my error) or in this case a block of four cancelled, contrary to regulations, with a single Irish numeral, 345 of Mullingar.

Chris.

joelk · **Posted:** Tue Apr 12, 2011 06:59:32 am

I believe this one was cancelled in Cootehill:

dporter-stamps · **Posted:** Tue Apr 12, 2011 08:02:51 am

cmj wrote:

A nice dated piece with 1d's and 2d from Boyle (numeral 70)

Pity the numerals aren't blue to match the date stamp, but you can't have everything.

Chris.

Will be staying in Boyle over Easter for an angling competition, 3,000 euro first prize, if i won that i will be able to afford the GB £5 orange i have always wanted.

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:46:37 am

cmj wrote:

... and quickly onto another stamp (before anyone notices my error) or in this case a block of four cancelled, contrary to regulations, with a single Irish numeral, 345 of Mullingar.

Chris.

Nice block.

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:47:14 am

joelk wrote:

I believe this one was cancelled in Cootehill:

Cootehill it is

CMJ · **Posted:** Tue Apr 12, 2011 21:14:34 pm

joelk wrote:

I believe this one was cancelled in Cootehill:

A really nice strike of the combined date and obliterator cancellation from Cootehill, Co Cavan. The ones with a single line round the town and date section look like this example from Markethill.

The cancel on the stamp is of a later type than the example because the horizontal bars in the numeral are much thicker.

Chris.

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:37:42 am

cmj wrote:

The cancel on the stamp is of a later type than the example because the horizontal bars in the numeral are much thicker.

Chris.

I wondered why some cancellations are thicker than others. I thought it was an inconsistency in the canceling devices.

Flying Tiger · **Posted:** Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:41:44 am

Another Downey Head used in Cahir, County Tipperary

Its a long way to Tipperary....


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