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Well if you did not know, reading the post above yours, hopefully you will now.

It is not rocket science really.

If you are unable to understand that simple concept, or assist, I'll be pleased to remove you as Moderator and add anyone who does have the will to keep this useful Wiki up to date.

Thanks.

Admin

Every image that has been placed on the wiki is on the wiki

Except a hundred or so of mine

They are just at the end and not in the positions within the wiki

This particular thread could be fixed tomorrow

I have busted my butt for the last couple of years getting this up and running, neat and tidy, all in order,even making the quickie wiki on the 5d & have started that for others also.

Then you come along and require that all post that are placed here are to stay here.

Your reason behind this is give the member the acknowledgement that they have contributed to the wiki
although acknowledgement is on every position through out the wiki.

You also asked that they be left so that we will have a back up of images instead of just me having them (just in case I get hit by a bus). This I think is a great idea.
By leaving the post at the end of the thread does not back up anything as the image is not on the board it is in the members photobucket account, deleted or not deleted it is not backed up.

All I am asking is to keep the wiki clean and tidy.

I offered a way around this the last time this came up, that was a single posting thread for all to post to everybody's posts will stay there and the wiki stay's clean.

GUTTERS

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pilot has kindly volunteered to help tidy up things and place images where they should have been months back.

His images (and others) have been stting on the previous page for THREE MONTHS,which is silly.

All Mods are free to move new posts of images to their correct position, and leave the post where it is, that adds the image here.

Many thanks.

Glen why don't you want this?

All I am asking is to keep the wiki clean and tidy.

I offered a way around this the last time this came up, that was a single posting thread for all to post to everybody's posts will stay there and the wiki stay's clean.

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GUTTERS it seems to me the issue is solved.

If you do not have the time, others seems able to assist.

And that answers my question?

Where have I said I do not have the time?

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The fact nothing has been moved for 9 months seemed to indicate pretty clearly you did not have the time. Hence someone was appointed who apparently does have the time and the inclination to keep this Wiki up to date.

Enough of this petulant bickering. Email me as 'The Rules' request re Admin decisions, and stop clogging the thread with pointless to and fro - thanks.

Admin

Thanks Glen. You're as gracious as ever. Please remove me.

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GUTTERS and mobbor,

Should either of you decide to sever ties with the wiki, and, God (no, not you, Glen) forbid, Stampboards itself, I for one will be saddened by the loss of your unfailing aid and expertise. Both of you devote your time to assisting others further their knowledge of this great pastime, and all without payment for services rendered!!

Regards

Many thanks to pilot for updating these images at long last.

The posting of image stays where it is now, on previous page, and has simply been cut and pasted as well into the correnct 3R52 space, that has been empty for months.

I just spot checked a few, and this below is the perfect format to add them in - many thanks to all for their good work here.

mobbor has been removed as Mod based on his written request, and it seems he did not do any moderating anyway.

4/R27 Type B Re-Entry
Compartment line at left
Middle arm of final E of pence is longer

4/L47 Type B Re-Entry
Duplication of shading behind Roo
Roos ear and face are whiter than normal
The middle arm in the final E of pence is longer
Split frame 0.50mm below N.W. corner often overinked but always present.

I'm not going anywhere clemo couple of long days at the moment but will be back in the full swing of it come this weekend

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New images posted into position today 2L1 through to 2L60

This is 1L4 2nd State




2nd State

a) Shading to right of crown; Break to left of centre of 16th shading line counting down

b) Left Frame; The frame is shaved, starting 5mm from N.W. corner and returning with a sharp shoulder to normal after 6.50mm

Just noticed mobbor has this and a whole lot of others on page 15 not yet entered into the wiki.

Moved in position

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mobbor I have moved all your excellent reference stamps on page 15 into position.

Must earn a living now so will continue tomorrow

Cheers

A few more for the Wiki.

4R26

- No listed flaws

4R32 - 2nd State

-Upper Frame: Shallow notch 0.50mm wide, ending 0.25mm from NE corner which extends slightly upwards and outwards to a sharp point.
-Crown: Cross slopes from left down to right.
-Lower Frame: Colour dot on the frame under P of Halfpence (Not Present)

4R33 - 2nd State

-Right Frame: A small and sharp notch cuts into the frame about 0.50mm from the NE corner.
-Crown: The cross slopes gently from left down to right.
-Upper Frame: A series of irregular scoops and small cuts for 4.50mm from NW corner.
-Comp Marks: Outside Left Frame - a line 6.50mm beginning at the NW corner (Not Present). Above Upper Frame - a pin with the head attached to the N.E. corner (Not Present)

Cheers

Staples

All moved into position

Just letting member know that all description's for the plate 1a are now documented in their positions on this thread.
This will help aid member, as this plate has no images to match members stamps

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This is 4L11 2nd State





2nd State Rose p.14 and First Golden scarlet p.13.5 x 12.5

a) Left Frame: Shaved inwards for 1.50mm from NW corner before returning to normal with a sloping shoulder.

b) Left Frame : Shaved slightly inwards for 1.00mm before returning to normal with a slight shoulder 9.50mm below N.W. corner.

y) Split Frames: Left Frame - a vertical split starting in the lower frame 0.50mm from the left frame

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This is 3L6 State 2




2nd State Pale Rose p.13.5 x 12.5 to early Golden Scarlets

"Saddle on Emu"

a) Emu: A white flaw on the emu's back caused by a break in four shading lines.
b) Upper Frame: A sharp notch to left of the cross and a shallow scoop for 1.00mm to the right
c) Left Frame: The frame is shaved starting 7.5mm from S.W. corner and returning to normal after 5.00mm

Moved into position

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Gutters,

A few more for the Wiki. I can also upload 1L03,5,6,10 but there are already copies of these.

Cheers

Staples

1L04 - 3rd State


1L09


1L11


1L12 - 3rd State

This is 3L16 state 2




Split Frames: Horizontal split cutting through white margin at N.E. corner

Compartment marks: Above upper frame - line at N.E. corner gives a pointed appearance

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Gutters,

A few more for the Wiki.

1L03 - 2nd State


1L05 - 2nd State


1L06 - 2nd State


1L10


4L47 - 3rd State (Type B)


4L48


4L53 - 4th State


4L54 - 3rd State


4L59


4L60 - Mullett Printing 2nd-3rd State (2a, 2b, 3b)


4L60 - 4th State (Ash)


4R55 - 2nd State


4R56

This is 4L28 state 4



1st State Normal

2nd State
(a) Emu Shading Area: Two short breaks in the shading lines run up from the emu's tail affecting three shading lines.

(b) Split Frames: a) Upper Frame - Split 1.50mm enters the right projecting point at the left.
b) Right Frame - Split 0.75mm enters the upper projecting point from below.

3rd State - 2a, 2yb as before, 2ya no longer present.

(a) Roo Shading Area: An elongated coloured flaw affecting the left ends of eight shading lines starting at the twelfth line below the wattle stem and a break or scratch near the roo's back.

(b) Left Value Shield: Three short white lines cutting four shading lines between the left value shield and the roo's tail.

4th State - 2yb, 3a as before, 2a, 3b returns to normal.

(a) Crown: The cross slopes from left down to right with a notch in the right corner.

(b) Upper Frame: Starting 4.00mm from the N.E. corner the frame is shaved down for a further 4.00mm before returning to normal with a slight shoulder before being shaved again down to the right frame of the cross

(c) N.E. Corner: Very sharp with an upward and outward projection.

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3/4 L60
plated by the sliced O on the overprint

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Plate 1aR6

Brads64
Tracy

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Plate 1aR55

Brads64
Tracy

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Plate 1aL60

Brads64
Tracy

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Plate 1aR48

Brads64
Tracy

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1a Imprint Pair for L60 & R55

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1a R42 R48 R54 R60

All in a strip on cover.



Sorry about previous R4 it should be R48, Typo

R42




R48



R54



R60


1a R5 & 1a R6 with plate dot I have as a pair, I have put them up in an earlier post.

I can scan the pair if it would be better for Wiki.

Cheers Tracy

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Now things are coming together fixed R55 in the 2nd post and the R48
Yes would like a scan of the R5

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Thanks Gutters, I will scan 1a R5 & R6 together then do R5 by its self.

Tracy

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1a R5 & R6




R5



Tracy

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This is 3R59 State 2



(a) Right Frame[/u] : A hinged frame break 9.00mm below N.E. corner with the inner side being angular and the outer shoulder more rounded. The inner margin is consequently much wider at the hinge point. The right ends of the adjacent lines are thicker or joined for 1.50mm above and 2.50mm below the break.
(b) S.E.Corner : Has a projecting bulbous appearance
(c) Right Value Shield : A small rounded projection 0.75mm below upper right corner of large fig.1
(d) Left Frame : Lower 0.5mm shaved in removing S.W. Corner
(z) Comp Lines : Above Upper Frame - line 0.50mm long level and to left of cross
Below Lower Frame - two small dots 4.25mm from SW corner

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This is 4R55 state 2



(a) Postage Band : A thick almost horizontal line running to the right from the lower curve of the S not quite reaching the T of postage.
(b) Left Value Shield : A scratch running diagonally from left down to right beginning on the left frame 5.25mm from S.W. corner, passing through 4 lines of shading, through the value shield, through the shading lines beneath the shield and ending in the lower frame to the left of the left scroll
(c) Value Tablet : The letter H of half has a deformed central bar almost like a letter M
(d) Oval : A small horizontal white mark on king's head above the nape of the neck
(z) Comp Marks : Outside left frame - a line 1.50mm attached to the N.W. Corner

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This is 4L1 state 4



(a) Australia band : A 0.75mm dagger like flaw under the right leg of the first A in Australia.
(b) Right Frame : 4.0mm of the inner side of frame, beginning 8.00mm from the upper frame, is serrated by a series of uncoloured lines level with the shading lines
(c) Left Frame : Beginning 0.5mm above the S.W. corner there is a variable scoop which gives it a protruding bulbous appearance

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This is 3L3 state 2



(a) Upper Frame : A blunt notch 0.25mm to left of the cross and very irregular for a further 2.50mm
(b) Crown : Split between first and second pearls on the left, level with space between 2nd and 3rd shading lines
(c) Upper Frame : N.E.Corner very blunt
(y) Split Frames : Upper Frame-split in left projecting point level with space between 1st and 2nd shading lines

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Gutters
What makes you think 4/L53 type A + Type B need to be assessed
Mr Skinner confirmed the type A
Mobbor confirmed the type B
They are both in imprint blocks ,So if you know something that these 2 knowledgeable guys
don't let me know.

Thanks

This is part of a letter from L. Skinner.

Your original post


ACSC info gives me

Mullett imprint showing 4L53 (abnormal crown top)

First imprint (broken R of PRINTER) perfs. 14 only

Second imprint perfs. 14 and 13½x 12½

Ash imprint (N over N) showing 4L53 (abnormal crown top) perfs. 14 and 13½x 12½

Ash imprint (N over N) showing 4L53 first re-entries Type B - perfs. 14 and 13½x 12½

Ash imprint (N over N) showing 4L47 and 4L53 first re-entries Type B - perfs. 14 and 13½x 12½

Ash imprint (N over N) showing 4L47 first re-entry Type B and 4L53 second re-entry Type A - perfs. 14 and 13½ x 12½

YOURS

Ash imprint (N over N) showing 4L47 second re-entry Type C and 4L53 second re-entry Type A - perf. 13½ x 12½ only

Ash imprint (N over A) showing 4L47 second re-entry Type C and 4L53 second re-entry Type A - perf. 13½ x 12½ only

Ash imprint (N over N) showing 4L47 second re-entry Type C and 4L53 second re-entry Type A - perf. 13½ x 12% TWO PENCE surcharge only

INFORMATION
Below is word for word from the SANDY FORBES publication
On your description above Perf 14 only matches STATE 1/2/3 below
which I think you will agree that it is not any of them.

1st State

Normal

2nd State

Deep Rose p14. Mullett.

Crown: The Cross spreads very slightly over to the right.

Comp Marks: Dots at N.W. and S.W. corners.

3rd State

Rose p14. Ash 1st Printing.

Comp Marks: Dots at N.W. and S.W. corners.

Crown: The right half of the Cross is missing.
See also IR/1, IIIR/30, IVL/53.

4th State

Rose and Golden Scarlets p13.5x12.5. Ash 2nd Printing.

Comp Marks: Dots at N.W. and S.W. corners.

Crown: The right half of the Cross is missing.

Left Corner Shading: Very weak shading above the Roo's head and into the N.W. corner.

Right Corner Shading: Very weak shading and the blooms are very white. Shading lines are short in the right scroll area, leaving the white margin wider than normal. Sometimes there is a completely void area between LIA and the wattles.

Emu: Neck and breast whiter than normal.

Roo: Face and ear whiter than normal

Value Tablet: The central bar of the final E in Three is short. In the first E in Halfpence the
two upper arms are fused together.

Crown: The eighth line of shading to the right of the Crown is very weak and sometimes
missing.

White Margin S.E. Corner: The white margin in this area extends as a sharp point into the coloured area and almost to the S.E. Corner

Right Frame: Thinned throughout its length and the lower sections of the white gutter between the two stamps is wider than normal. See also IVL/54.

5th State

Golden Scarlet and Surcharges. Ash 3rd Printing.

White Margin S.E. Corner: The white margin in this area extends as a sharp point into the coloured area and almost to the S.E. Corner

Right Frame: Thinned throughout its length and the lower sections of the white gutter between the two stamps is wider than normal.

Note:
The flaw Crown: The right half of the Cross is missing. Cannot be distinguished from a similar flaw on IIIR/30 and all other flaws must be present to identify this unit 3rd State.




So to answer your question no I do not have any other information than the above.

Does not match the Forbes states as they have no Perf 14 for State 4

And the ACSC only gives this
Ash imprint (N over N) showing 4L47 first re-entry Type B and 4L53 second re-entry Type A - perfs. 14 and 13½ x 12½
4L53 Second re-entry Revision to to type A

Now these are the only two publications that I have.

This is a wiki and the point of it is to supply information from as many sources as possible your original post of the stamp and Perf 14 4/L53 Type A Re-Entry at the base was the only information I had to work with.

So in a nut shell no I have no more information on your 4/L53
But you seem to have, maybe when you posted your stamp maybe you should have posted that extra information to aid the wiki.

Thank you GUTTERS

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Now that you have extra info from someone that helped write the A.C.S.C. you will be able to fix it.

As far as 4/L53 ga type B goes
ACSC states
Duplicated lines above right wattles =My example has.
Weak lines right of LIA to wattles =My example has.
Weak or missing line from 5th pearl to right wattles =My example has.

Perf 14 N over N imprint =My example is.


Page 4/193 of ACSC.

Thank you WEIRD AL that was easy wasn't it
Will get to when I can the grand kids are playing with the computer at the moment they will be here all day

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Red, small multiple watermark, perforation 14
Plate 1a Mullett imprint. This appears to be an early printing(?) as neither of the units show any of the flaws vide Sandy Forbes checklist.

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Red, small multiple watermark, perforation 14 - 1aL60
Does not show any of the flaws vide Sandy Forbes.

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Red, small multiple watermark, perforation 14 - 1aR55
Shows none of the flaws vide Sandy Forbes.

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