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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 20:12:31 pm 
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You seem to be an apologist for a crook.


Not at all. But even crooks are not crooks 100% of the time. I just like to be careful that we don't get fact mixed with fiction. I have read all of the thread several times. Its undeniable that he is faking the perf OS items. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work that out but if you accuse someone of doing the wrong thing when they are not then it also puts doubts in peoples minds if the other things are true as well. Just have to make sure we don't make those mistakes because we might get made a fool of and it makes the rest of the arguement suffer. Sometimes you can try so hard to find a problem you find things wrong that are not really wrong.


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Well I think we all agree that unistamps, nsb13579 and stamps_fishing are all the one deceitful crook, except for perhaps ozfish.

This is a snag of a reply I received from eBay for a shill bidding report on unistamps for doing prretty much the same thing as has been discussed.

Do you still want to be an apologist for this crook?

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What a poorly structured quasi legal non-committal soft co*k response from eBay Customer Support :lol: "Carl D."

Apologies Clive, but this bloke would make a great lawyer.. :wink:

Apart from stating the bald faced bloody obvious re "Shill bidding", the rest of this pathetic standardised 'pro forma' type response is an attempt to keep the whinging dopes out there satisfied that we're appearing to be responsive to your complaint.

It reminds me of the standard reply from underperfoming Telecommunications companies.
"We are escalating your situation to the next level of enquiry" (or in other words we can't/don't want to help and hopefully you'll get totally piss*d off and just quietly go away).

As for the 2012 nomination for 'Best Pants Wetting Comedy Quote' from Carl D.

"I appreciate that you have reported this to us. These situations are very rare, :lol: but we do take them seriously, :wink: that is why we highly appreciate your report and help in keeping eBay a safe and trustworthy marketplace."

I'll feel better now knowing the world's a better place for it.

And I embarrassingly admit that I use this outfit, :oops: but like most people it boils down to pragmatism over principle, not that it's a valid arguement, but we live in the vain hope that eBay will develop a sense of corporate propriety one day, just don't hold your breath waiting.... :(


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That seems to happen to him with regular monotony. :roll:

Items apparently sold under one of his identities end up for sale on another. Go to the start of his thead and you will see what I mean.

You seem to be an apologist for a crook. :oops:


I have been reading this thread since it started and was beginning to wonder if perhaps I was mistaken in thinking there may possibly be some connection!

"devil's advocate" is not quite doing it for me. Gee I hope I am mistaken, and do sincerely apologise if I am mistaken.

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Hi John

I am more than happy to message you my email address, Meet you for lunch or dinner, provide you with my phone number to have a chat. Allow you to visit my business which operates in all states of Australia and New zealand, meet my family and staff members, see my certification as a member of an ATO consulting group etc. Even see my stamp and coin collections.

I have nothing to hide and have no association with Stamp_Fishing although as I said on this forum, I have purchased a very few items from one of the ID's listed above out of the 4000 or so lots I have purchased via ebay all up so no association other than that.

And Paul if you read my posts I have never doubted that they are the same person, I have only suggestion that we not jump to conclusions without proof being given. I have also made what I believe is a very valid and reasonable suggestion towards removing any fakers or fraud from ebay or anywhere else for that matter. I have also encouraged and all but begged someone to put there hand up and make an effort to get rid of people who do these things. So please show me anywhere where I have supported (not just questioned the evidence) stamp_fishing or any of the other names mentioned for anything that has happenned?

Am I wrong to ask questions, request evidence, give an alternative oppinion after being requested to do so by one of the moderators or offer advice or keep the discussion centred and not out of control? I am sure we still vote for our Prime Minister in this country.

Just because I challenge someones statements doesnt mean I support crooks. I'de hate for someone to be on a jury if they don't at least question both possibilities. A lot of innocent people would be in Jail. So if anyone wants to talk to me, come and visit me, meet for a drink or lunch, visit the sydney aquarium or go to the zoo together (preferably in Sydney, South Australia or Queensland as this is where I will be over the next few weeks) then send me a msg and we can catch up.

When I was at school I was captain of the debating team, I studied computer science at NSW Uni in the 1980's, organisational psychology for 5 years at UWS about 10 years ago, have been employed at the same place for 25 years (which I now own), have a wonderful wife and children.

And basically I love a good 2 sided discussion. Someone in my position has no reason to support crooks, but I do love a good debate.


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Another thing. Lets not make this thread a "Is Ozfish a Stamp_fishing supporter" topic but feel free to start a new one if anyone wants to. :)


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I have purchased a very few items from one of the ID's listed above out of the 4000 or so lots I have purchased via ebay all up so no association other than that.


Perhaps you could post images of the purchases and we could advise if they are genuine or whether you should get a certificate. I recall you posted elsewhere you would like an appraisal.

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PeterS said: Clive, your block is fine. Just because the guy is an out and out crook does not mean that everything he sells is forged, I suppose.


Peter, you said this on the first page of this topic and you didnt get called an apologist yet I say

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So 6 purchases over 13 months out of over 4000 made. So over 3994 from other ebayers. Not a bad percentage for someone who supposed to be an apologist.

Can you tell me what your ebay name is so I can check your purchases? Or is that confiential?

What i actually said in the other post was

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Actually I wouldn't mind when I get some time, having an "expert" come and look at my collection even if it takes several days (which I would be happy to pay for at a reasonable rate) to sort out the whites from the creams and the dies and even recognise my 1d reds and also any fakes I may have got unknowingly dumped with. I need the education.


I have never posted posted pics on here before, only links. I have read about using photobucket on here though so will see how i go.


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Getting back to the subject at hand.

We are not the only people discussing this crook under his various identities.

Follow the link below from The Tasmanian Philatelic Society.

http://www.tps.org.au/bb/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=782

You can not defend the indefensible.

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Ok,

I can tell you what they are at least.

20th February - 10/ Grey & Pink Kangaroo CofA wmk Superb MUH - Have very similar stamp MUH purchased from Tasmania Stamp Shop and they look the same other than some damage from the postage when I got the latter. Separated from collection just in case.
19th February - 1931 6d Purple Southern Cross Marginal block of 4 Superb MUH - Seems Genuine but a bit creased.

31st January - 1964 5/ Cattle WHITE Paper in EXCELLENT CONDITION MUH. - I have about 10 of these purchased by auction and other ebayers plus about 30 cream paper and a block of 4 of each type and seems no different to the others gum wise

20th january - 1930 2d Sturts perf OS in EXCELLENT CONDITION MUH (prob fake - separated from collection)
1930 3d Sturts perf OS in EXCELLENT CONDITION MUH (prob fake - separated from collection)

Cant see the 13 month ago one as it has droppe off my ebay? have no idea what it was but at a guess most likely a block of 4 x 7/6 navigators. I purchased about 100 MUH and Used blocks and several 1/2 sheets and about 500 single used and MUH of them around that time. I think I have about 40 full sets of MUH predecimal navigators at last count plus lots of light hinged and used sets.

Did you also need my tax File number, date of birth, Credit card details and internet banking password?

Anyway, I am going to keep out if this one for a bit to keep it on topic because I can feel my cheeky side coming out and that doesnt make for decent posts. I am happy to respond though if anyone wants me to clarify anything so don't accuse me of running away. I'm right here.


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Paul,

Yes, good to see that our very own 'mickey finn' has sprung the spiv stamps_fishing faking Tassie perfins.

But what a sorry state of affairs this is all coming to. Ebay has been provided with enough evidence to shut this fraudster down, permanently. It has the resources and information to quickly verify the illegality and the criminality of stamp_fishing's actions. Yet it does not.

In one way, and one way only, I agree with a point made by that otherwise babbling stream of consciousness a.k.a. ozfish, i.e. we aren't making much headway with eBay, and are unlikely to make much headway with the various law enforcement authorities.

I don't do devil's advocacy, but it does begin to occur to me that trying to get action against the spivs and cheats is essentially a waste of time. That's a much different thing from continuing to highlight their malpractices, which is a great benefit to everyone here, as well as being tremendously educational.

My suggestion, and it is a very small one, is to persistently lobby eBay to bar private listings (for stamp sales). A small step but with the potential to punch above its weight.

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traralgon3844 wrote:

Getting back to the subject at hand.

We are not the only people discussing this crook under his various identities.

Follow the link below from The Tasmanian Philatelic Society.

http://www.tps.org.au/bb/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=782

You can not defend the indefensible.



Good to see - some very serious collectors weighing in there. Malcolm Groom is an ex Federal APF President for starters. :idea:

Keep the reports going in to ebay.


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Peter, you said this on the first page of this topic and you didnt get called an apologist yet I say

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and that makes me an apologist?


You are continually defending him, that is why some are calling you an apologist. Anyway, I don't want to continue the distraction. We can simply agree to disagree as to what is happening.

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PeterS said: Clive, your block is fine. Just because the guy is an out and out crook does not mean that everything he sells is forged, I suppose.


Peter, you said this on the first page of this topic and you didnt get called an apologist yet I say

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and that makes me an apologist?


You are continually defending him, that is why some are calling you an apologist. Anyway, I don't want to continue the distraction. We can simply agree to disagree as to what is happening.


I believe Peter is obliquely referring to "The Stockholm Syndrome" - substitute applicable words where they're required.

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I guess if I had purchased a MUH 10/- Kangaroo, I would be desperate for the seller to not be a crook too. :D

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In one way, and one way only, I agree with a point made by that otherwise babbling stream of consciousness a.k.a. ozfish, i.e. we aren't making much headway with eBay, and are unlikely to make much headway with the various law enforcement authorities.

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Clive while I agree with the above, the one thing that has not been mentioned on this thread is that the bad publicity may be having an affect on his sales. The more often stamps_fishing is mentioned on this thread, the higher this Stampboards thread rises on the Google hit list.

Now if only one potential Bunny actually goes to the trouble to google his eBay name, comes across this thread, and decides not to bid that is a win. A small one, but a win anyway.

I would certainly not spend hundreds of dollars on any stamp without knowing who I am buying off, and if the Bunnies keep flocking, there is not a lot we can do about it, except shine a stronger spotlight on the seller(s), and keep up the pressure on eBay.

We can dispose of fraudulent sellers within hours on Trade Me, Delcampe, bidstart and some of the smaller sites devoted mostly to stamps. But eBay is a monolith and literally don't care, as long as the $ keep rolling in.

As for the police, busting somebody for a few fraudulant stamps is simply not "sexy". It will not bring in more budget $s, or make headlines.

We just keep doing what we can.

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All the waffle and all the hot air and all the "we have to do something" (from another thread and another low posting count member with too much wind in his belly), is not pro-active nor to the benefit of the viewing and buying public.

I am sick of reading the indefensible on various threads.


The most effective, most widespread and most damning information and best procedure is exactly what has been going on with the excellent information coming from Stampboards members themselves - for the last 5 years!

Google any of the "snake oil salesman" mentioned and WE will pop up usually 2nd or 3rd on the hit list.

All we can and should be doing is to continue the exposure of these crooks by research, naming and shaming, publishing the evidence here so that the potential buyer with half a brain will do some basic reseach of their own and end up reading our threads.

Keep plugging away at eBay with reports, keep showing the world the tripe that is beeing sold by some. Post their new incantation names as they appear.

If someone wants to put their good money down on an expensive stamp then it's going to end up their own stupid fault for not doing the very basics and have an understanding of the stamps they are after.

We're not the Police, nor the authorities nor any dealer affiliation. We don't have the $ to pursue these charlatans ourselves, nor have many of us fallen prey to them so can't actually "press charges". We don't need it!


However, WE actually have more power than any of the previously mentioned as we can happily publish here all the findings we come across. No need to wait for a court case - the evidence is right in front of us already.

As the body of evidence grows over time - THIS is the resource base that buyers will check with, word of mouth and internet reputation will draw people here to check.


Besides, I can see that in the not too distant future our problems with eBay will be gone as they won't be offering these sorts of collectables in the near future. Many sellers, even honest ones are being forced out as eBay re-designs itself into a "world shopping mall" rather than it's old "garage sale" persona.

The other collectable auction sites are to be highly commended for their stand and actions when a dodgy seller is brought to their attention.


I'll get off my soapbox now.

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The most effective, most widespread and most damning information and best procedure is exactly what has been going on with the excellent information coming from Stampboards members themselves - for the last 5 years.

Well said.
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I'll get off my soapbox now.

That was a really constructive contribution. Don't get off your soapbox just yet. As if. :P :P

Norm,

Agree with you entirely, and I did say in a previous post that we need to continue highlighting the swindlers' cheating and fraud.

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Ebay item number 230759154324 sold for $121.90 to "private listing"...


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Ebay item number 230759154324 sold for $121.90 to "private listing"...


Less than ÂĽ of the retail price of a genuine item. When will they learn that when it is too good to be true it probably is.

Although he has sold it to himself once before it seems, so he may have bought it himself.

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I Keep hearing about how I am supporting crooks here and I have asked for someone to show me one of my quotes on this forum where I have supported the crooks and to date nothing? So if you are accusing me of supporting the crooks please show me where I have done so?


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MOD HAT ON

The title of this thread is

"Something Fishy with "stamps_fishing" on eBay! FORGERIES!!"


Please stick to the topic. Sidebar issues need to be taken to a new thread and any further off topic posts will WILL be deleted.

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This little entry got lost in the discussion of the ethics or lack thereof of stamps_fishing.

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I will let the members play spot the forgery.

Feel free to comment.

Item: 230759127022 currently for sale by the forger stamps_fishing.

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Item: 150734976125

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There are in fact at least 2 OS forgeries!!
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The lot sold for $51 and a bunny has picked up what he/she thinks is a good buy. The OS Kangaroo lot, with known forgeries! When will these idiots start to realise that Private Auctions are invariably run by crooks!!??

Unfortunately, because it is a Private Auction, no-one will be able to let the buyer know he or she has bought a pig in a poke, a bunch of fakes!"

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It also shows you can't judge a seller by a feedback rating. I have shown some of he forgeries he has sold and he is still sitting on 99.6%.

eBay were warned this lot contained forgeries and allowed the sale to go through. eBay are culpable to a degree in my eyes.

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If eBay will not deal with the likes of stamps_fishing, who will? The evidence is irrefutable that he is forging and then selling OS overprints and perforations. He is repairing (including regumming) faulty stamps and selling them as pristine.

Stamps_fishing is only the latest in a long line of eBay IDs created by this fraudster. I really do hate to think just how much money this crook has stolen from collectors over the years.

This thread is on the second page of Google links when you search for stamps_fishing. I think it is incumbent on us to move it to teh first page and give him all the prominence he deserves! :evil:

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Here we go again. :roll:

It would appear time machines were around in the late 1930's and early 40's.

I saw this eBay bargaaainnn offered by stamps_fishing at a low low start price of $9.99. (He has recently been using superb etc like another stampboards favorite)

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Looks pretty good you say. Well he is getting better at forging the large holes when you compare this one to other recent forgeries he has offered.

There is one big problem with this pair and it is all in the cancel.

Gibbons states that the coil pair was issued 10.41. (October, 1941)

I can't wait for the suckers to chase this bargain.

You wouldn't risk this rare pair on eBay starting at $9.99 if it were genuine when it is catalogued at ÂŁ450 as used. Unless of course you were prepared to shill bid on it while hiding behind a Private Listing. See confirmation from eBay that he is prepared to shill bid a few posts above.

Other than that, Balaklava is a tiny South Australian country town off the beaten track and most unlikely to have a coil machine at the Post Office or within cooee.

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This is another one he sold recently and again it appears to have time warped back to the late 1930's after being issued in October 1941. :roll:

Someone paid $145.50 for scrap paper.

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He also sold this mint pair recently. Taking the two items above into account and the wonky perfs, if I were a betting man, I know where I'd be placing my bet on whether or not it was genuine.

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He is making a nice little earner out of these forgeries. This one was soldd by his alter ego unistamps at the end of January.

Again a Rocky Horror Time Warp.

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Same day, same image but different sales price and item number, so he was second chancing suckers.

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Well it seems that even the unsuspecting eBayers are waking up to the forgeries offered by this crook.

The coil pair made a measly $40.99 for a $400 plus (if genuine and this isn't) coil pair. We will never know who bought it if he didn't shill buy it himself while hiding behind his private auctions. Maybe one day the buyer will stumble across stampboards or google stamps_fishing, but by then it will be too late.

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Are we having the desired effect on your sales Mr. stamps_fishing?

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Wrong finger.

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What about this one from stamps_fishing sold gor AUD 12.55.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI ... true&rt=nc

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In my (ignorant) view, this appears to be a toned mint stamp that was recently stuck on a piece of paper, with a fake cancel being added. You can see toning spots on the stamps which in reality should also be found on the paper around the toned area, but they just stop at the edge of the stamp.

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What about this one from stamps_fishing sold gor AUD 12.55.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI ... true&rt=nc

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In my (ignorant) view, this appears to be a toned mint stamp that was recently stuck on a piece of paper, with a fake cancel being added. You can see toning spots on the stamps which in reality should also be found on the paper around the toned area, but they just stop at the edge of the stamp.

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With the history of this seller, it would be a sure bet that the 'OS' is a recent addition. It may be just me, but the 'OS' looks wrong.

Suprising that stamps_fishing did not list the black smudges under the 'OS' as a double overprint!


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Looks like he may have been shill bidding again and ended up buying his own material.

Note the low original sale price and the higher start price now that he has re-listed it. Obviously the original sale price wasn't enough for greedy guts.

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ENCORE ENCORE THE CROWD CRIED


Well here is aother pair making a encore appearance.

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He really should go back to flipping burgers as was posted earlier. What a total loser in life.

He'd make far more an hour, and not be breaking the law. :idea:


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:lol: I hope someone buys them and then returns them as "item not as desciribed".

Their not Glen's - Glens writing isn't that good! :D :lol:

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The quality resembles his usual forgeries, toned or slightly damaged stamps and or re-gums tarted up with forged OS overprints and flogged off to the unsuspecting with the assistance of his accomplice eBay.

I will take the rant as a compliment.

When forgers and crooks have to resort to that type of stupidity, you know you are having the required effect.

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Poor guy. Stampboards must really be hurting his business if he resorts to junk listings like this and lie and so crudely libel Glen, by posting stamps that look like they were made yesterday (they probably were).

Note that he was not even willing to use a decent 3d Kingsford Smith to make that stamp, and used a badly toned one.

He probably needs to keep a decent one to sell soon so that he can afford a Cheeseburger and Small Fries at Maccas for lunch tomorrow. Too bad that $3.00 will not run to a Cup of Coffee as well, so he will need to find a water tap somewhere.

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I will take the rant as a compliment.


...and presumably put in a formal complaint to ebay about it at the same time :lol:


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I have not laughed so much in a long time since I first read about this in another thread!

Selling the kind of garbage this guy is selling is one thing but when his rants start becoming libellous, what does it take for ebay to shut him down!?

Surely they have had enough feedback from here alone to raise the radar!

Amazing and quite alarming!

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The lot sold for $51 and a bunny has picked up what he/she thinks is a good buy. The OS Kangaroo lot, with known forgeries! When will these idiots start to realise that Private Auctions are invariably run by crooks!!??

Unfortunately, because it is a Private Auction, no-one will be able to let the buyer know he or she has bought a pig in a poke, a bunch of fakes!"

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It also shows you can't judge a seller by a feedback rating. I have shown some of he forgeries he has sold and he is still sitting on 99.6%.

eBay were warned this lot contained forgeries and allowed the sale to go through. eBay are culpable to a degree in my eyes.

Thanks to the negative feedback left by the buyer of the above item
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the feedback of stamps_fishing has dropped to 99.3%.

The attempt at retaliation (positive, of course - this is ebay after all) is:
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The quality resembles his usual forgeries, toned or slightly damaged stamps and or re-gums tarted up with forged OS overprints and flogged off to the unsuspecting with the assistance of his accomplice eBay.

I will take the rant as a compliment.

When forgers and crooks have to resort to that type of stupidity, you know you are having the required effect.


Like you, Paul, I take his rant as a compliment. Seems we are hurting his sales (aka saving collectors from buying his forged garbage).

Since he obviously reads this thread I have a message for him; I take no notice of threats, I just report them.

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Since it has been put into the public domain here, let me fill you in on the OS forgeries lot. I was the buyer (created an account call stampbuyer52).

I paid by PayPal, naturally, and paid for Registered mail, naturally. He did not reply to a number of emails and I put in a dispute with PayPal. This had the effect of him finally sending me a registered letter.

Instead of the forged OS stamps all it contained was a single sheet of paper, this:

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His threats are like water off a duck's back to me. However, he cannot be allowed to act in such a fashion and I have made full reports to the appropriate authorities.

By his feedback it seems he is going to claim the stamps were sent and I stole them. Well, I have his original letter (including the envelope), so I guess we will see. I wonder if he wore gloves when he handled the letter and/or envelope? Of course, I won't have the letter long, it is required for evidence and forensic testing.

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I purchased another fake from this guy, in one of his previous guises (wishstamps135), a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, on that occasion before and after images of the stamp (i.e. before he put OS holes into it) were insufficient to convince PayPal. They required me to return the stamp for a refund. I refused to return, unmarked, a known forgery so that the scumbag could defraud a collector.

Anyway, notice any similarity in the writing style? This is the return address portion of the envelope from 2 years ago.

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Looking on Google maps, that appears to be a party supplies shop.


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eBay advises:
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Item 230771249893 is no longer available.
50 items found similar to '1931 KS Opt OS MUH FAMOUS Glen Stephens Forgery SCARCE'


(and no disrespect intended Glen.... :lol: ...but that is what it says)

stamps_fishing still has a number of items for sale on eBay, including some specimen overprints.


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