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I just purchased a 1897 version of Stanley Gibbons Stamps of the British Empire.

It lists the 4c Black on Magenta British Guiana at 25 Pounds. Would have been a good buy then!!!!

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I have a ratty 1892 Scott that gets used enough it stays on my desk :lol:

Also many other SG, Maury, and Lincoln catalogs that get used from time to time.

There is often info in these old catalogs that was later omitted or changed. That 1892 Scott is very useful for identifying Taylor forgeries as many of his forgeries were copied from early Scott illustrations.


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1896 SCOTT WW catalogue, 1910 W.E.P. Bulgaria catalogue and my 1923 Jarrett Canada all get regular use.

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I also have an 1892 Scott catalog. The 4 cents magenta British Guiana is unpriced.

Some other stamps of interest:

India 1854 4 rupees - 15 cents
GB 1£ square (1878) - $2.50
GB 5£ (1882) - $35/new; $10/used
US 10c (1847) - $5/new; $1.25 used
CGH 1p woodblock - $6.50
France 5F (1869) - $2/new; 15 cents used

Oh for a Time Machine and a $100 to spend (no, I don't need to be greedy) :D

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I also have an 1892 Scott catalog. The 4 cents magenta British Guiana is unpriced.

How much is Malta #1?

PS. My oldest catalogue is 1979. :oops:

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Hope you're ready for this -

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1860 1/2p buff - $1.50 new or used.

I'll get you one when I go back in time :lol:

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1860 1/2p buff - $1.50 new or used.

:shock:
Now it's €1050 ($1400) mint, €510 ($680) used (still missing from my collection).

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Gebruder Senfs Illustrierter Briefmarken Katalog 1929 - Ganze Welt Taschenausgabe.

Like the title says, a pocket-size world catalogue for pre-1929 stamps.

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My oldest is a 1931 Scott. The entire world in one volume.

Highlights include:

Australia £2-1st Watermark Roo & Map - $50.00 mint; $18.00 used

Great Britain #1 - $17.50 mint; $2.00 used

U.S.A. #1 $35.00 mint; $8.00 used

U.S.A. $5 Columbian $22.50 mint or used.

The Scott minimum stamp price was 2¢

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Mine is Scott Standard Postage Stamps Catalogue, 1900. Just over 600 Pages in one, hard-back, 4.5 x6.5 inch volume for the entire world.

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I know I have a world SG catalog dated 1940.

I always thought it was cool to have that in 1 volume, and already a bit of a historical document, albeit nothing valuable I expect.

I may have older ones, but I will only know or remember for sure when we get to unpack, sometime mid-May.


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Wow! My 1st set (4) Scott's with yellow covers were given to me by the Stamp Dealer in Mississauga (Square One) when I first went in to buy supplies. I think they were 70's or 80's. After I bought newer versions I found I couldn't part with them especially since all the photos were black & white and sometimes it was easier to find older issues in them.

Unfortunately, until I move again (hopefully someplace with 2 spare rooms to store stamps) they are in storage at the moment. I miss them alot.


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Not strictly mine, as such, but as I am the Hon. Librarian it's in my care so...

in the safe at the RPSNZ we have a Presentation copy of Mount Brown's 1862 Catalogue of British Colonial and Foreign Postage Stamps.

I'll do some scans of interesting bit later in the week when I'm in the office.


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1926 Scott WorldWide. I use it for Colombian states as it lists items that are no longer in the modern Scott catalogs.

1945 Scott The Americas and British Commonwealth

1945 Sanabria Air Post Catalog

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Keep in mind that for those seemingly very cheap values, you have to understand just what something like £25 was worth back then compared to today and what the investment might be worth having sat in the bank instead.

Just as a straight stick it in the bank and let the interest grow that £25 today at 7% would now be £60,000! If the average had been 9% then £500,000!

So you would be much better off perhaps, by jumping in your time machine, banking the £100 and coming back to now and cashing it out for about £240,000 - £2,000,000! (7-9%) Then go and buy all the stamps you wanted.

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Any bookings available on that time machine ? Does it stop at various times and places just to purchase nice examples of stamps every member drools at? But then again, if we all went back and got what we wanted they wouldn't be so valuable would they?!

Then again, :? , we'd all be happy chappies with lots of spaces filled in.....AND... we'd know they weren't forgeries! To be quite honest, I'd love a couple of "stunners" in my collection...and I wouldn't be overly concerned about value....just having them is a bonus!

Mine is a Scott's 1966 hardback catalogue that is starting to fall apart from overuse. It has heaps more info in it than any other catalogue I've got! I find it invaluable for any pre-1966 stamps for watermarks, paper and just little snippets of information.

AND, I won it as a doorprize at my first ever stampclub meeting in Kingston, Ontario, Canada way back then! :D

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I have both Brights ABC catalogues (adhesives & stationery) from 1912, a 1930 SG part 2 (Foreign Countries) but my favourite is an SG 1900 part 4, postal stationery, with this inscription on the inside front cover:

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Just superb Danny, pity they don't do them like that anymore :!:

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Hi Tony,

I appreciate you like them as I do :-)

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I've just acquired Forbin's "Catalogue of Revenue Stamps", 3rd edition, dated 1915......... But on CD-Rom.


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I've just acquired Forbin's "Catalogue of Revenue Stamps", 3rd edition, dated 1915......... But on CD-Rom.


I've just acquired the original, it's very fragile but...c'est magnifique!

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My oldest is a New Zealand Pim & Co. Sixth Edition, 1955 - quite modern compared to some mentioned earlier. By the way, I still use it a lot. Even so, NZ Chalon no. 6, the used 1/ green local print on blued paper is listed at 50 pounds. The 2011 SG price is 3,750 pounds. (A mint copy (do any exist?) has risen from 120 pounds to 40,000, a little beyond my budget.) I'm too lazy to work out the annualized rate of return had I bought one in 1955. That said, I did acquire one for much less although it's a bit banged up - still looks good, however, so long as you don't take it out of the mount and look at the back.


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my favourite is an SG 1900 part 4, postal stationery, with this inscription on the inside front cover:

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Now if the seller hadn't checked the flyleaf and seen that, or didn't stop to read the inscription and just ascribed the condition as "writing on inside cover", it would be your lucky day. :mrgreen: Great bit of philatelic history there.

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Any bookings available on that time machine ? Does it stop at various times and places just to purchase nice examples of stamps every member drools at? But then again, if we all went back and got what we wanted they wouldn't be so valuable would they?!

This is where the theory of time travel hits the brick wall of reality.

If you travel back in time and do something, you will alter the past, and send reality off on a divergent timeline, so that when you come back to your present, it won't be the same place you left. Doc Brown gave a good explanation in one of the Back to the Future films.

So, if you travelled to the Ferrary sale and bought the British Guiana Magenta, subsequent owners such as DuPont would never have it.

A non-philatelic but pretty conclusive example of the impact/impossibility of time-travel: if you travel back in time, and cause one of your parents to somehow die, how will you ever be born? Thus, how could you exist to travel back in time? 'Paradox' its called, like a Catch-22.

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I don't want to appear slow, but someone has to ask about the inscription. Who are the from & to persons.? :oops:

My theory on time travel is : "What could have happened, did." :)

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I don't want to appear slow, but someone has to ask about the inscription. Who are the from & to persons.? :oops:

My theory on time travel is : "What could have happened, did." :)

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Here's what Wikipedia has to say about JRW Purves/Purvis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Richard_William_Purves

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Not strictly mine, as such, but as I am the Hon. Librarian it's in my care so...

in the safe at the RPSNZ we have a Presentation copy of Mount Brown's 1862 Catalogue of British Colonial and Foreign Postage Stamps.

I'll do some scans of interesting bit later in the week when I'm in the office.


Ruler shows that it's really quite small.
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My earliest Stamp Catalogue.

"Illustrations of Postage Stamps" by J B Moens, 1864.

The book is not in the best of condition and has a tape-repair to the spine which I estimate dates back to approximately the 1920s.

The illustrations are engraved plates, with superb detailing. There are short summaries of each country, for example the Confederate States which makes reference to the ongoing civil war - and parts of Australia are described as "still unexplored" - to me that makes this book a piece of "living history" connecting directly to that age.


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Gavin-h, what an outstanding book! I for one would love to have a read! Are there any copyright restrictions that would prevent you from posting each page up here so we could read it?

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.....and here I was thinking my 1936 copy of Acklands priced Catalogue of Stamps is old!

It covers British Empire and Foreign Counties and cost 3/-.

The 5/- Harbour Bridge was 9/6 unused and 7/6 for used!

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Here's what Wikipedia has to say about JRW Purves/Purvis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Richard_William_Purves


And here is his bio from the ABD:

http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/purves-james-richard-william-11467

My oldest catalogue is SG 1950 Part 1, British Empire. In good condition, and gets used all the time :D

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I have a 1945, 1957 & 1964 Scott catalogue I got at a stamp club white elephant auction. Basically a whole box of stuff I bid like 2 bucks on. Never really had time to sit down and look at them carefully but they are in pretty good condition. :D


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I have an undated book of 'Planches' (plates) by Moens.

The plates are about 7 x 21 inches- very difficult to scan :shock:

They are pasted into the book and folded to fit into it.

About 50 of these big sheets folded to fit and printed on very thin paper.

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I have no idea of what this was used for as there are just the illustrations - no text at all.

By some of the stamps shown, it must be about 1880.


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Mine oldest is a 1958 Scott Vol#2 acquired in a box lot.

Re: Time travel, I'm surprised so many feel it's impossible.

How do you think that so many stamps became so rare?

Obviously time travelers have been buying them up at the post offices!!


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My oldest cat is a reprint of a 1910 catalogue of Michel.
In the foreword the editor gives the advice to collect worldwide but only stamps up to a a certain price. He even offers to edit albums which contain only those - omitting the higher priced ones. I do not know if he ever printed those albums.
For the interested I can also scan the first part of the foreword.

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My earliest Stamp Catalogue.

"Illustrations of Postage Stamps" by J B Moens, 1864.

The book is not in the best of condition and has a tape-repair to the spine which I estimate dates back to approximately the 1920s.

The illustrations are engraved plates, with superb detailing. There are short summaries of each country, for example the Confederate States which makes reference to the ongoing civil war - and parts of Australia are described as "still unexplored" - to me that makes this book a piece of "living history" connecting directly to that age.



The one I have is similar, and also from Moens, but in French and also dates back to 1864. It has since been hard bound in leather:



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Mine is a 1913 Gibbons British Empire and its in poor condition with loose spine and front cover

Much better are my 1917 and 1919 copies with complete spines and covers. A penny black cost 2/6 used and 10/- mint then.

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Speaking of old catalogues~ 8) 8) 8) ~ I found some of the original stamp catalogues that my grandmother used to buy from or distribute I'm really not sure.~Possibly both? But I find them AMAZINGLY fascinating. I'm just amazed at how little money that the stamps were originally sold for :shock: Here is an example from A Zinith Stamp Co. buyers catalogue. (I hope it is ok to post this example here. If not would Admin let me know so I can correct it)~thanks~
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 08:00:20 am 
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I have 1897 SG British Empire and 1897 SG Stamps of Foreign Countries, also 1902 Scott Standard.

The oldest catalogue I use is 1950 SG Europe, alongside my Michel Europe catalogues for English translation of old varieties information. The print and illustrations in the old SG are easier to read than more recent SG catalogues. :shock:


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 22:41:49 pm 
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Not a Catalogue but a Stanley Gibbons publication 1898. 68 Pages with 12 pages of advertisements for stamps and products sold by SG
STAMPS and Stamp collecting: A glossary of Philatelic Terms and a guide to the Postage Stamps of all the Nations
A detailed book with many terms explained and descriptions of inscriptions of oriential characters on stamps from countries and Indian states such as Afghanistan, Alwar, Duttia, Faridkot, Holkar, Nowanugger, Poonch, etc. (not my speciality)
Still a useful handbook
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 06:18:34 am 
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asmodeus wrote:
My oldest catalogue is from Stanley Gibbons Vol. 1 British Empire 1912


Well, I have to say that i am also the proud owner of the exact same catalogue - has a lot of stamps no longer listed in it such as revenues and consular stamps.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 09:11:06 am 
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Mine are not as old as these gems, but no less interesting, heres an image of my 6 oldest SG's

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They are (Right to left Top row) - 1913, 1917 and 1919, bootom row in same order 1923, 1926 and 1932. Of them the 1932 is probably the rarest as its from the depression and in near perfect condition.
The price changes during the period are interesting, only 2/6 in 1913, then 3/6 4 years later, 6/6 by 1919 (And much cheaper paper) 7/6 in 1923 (3 x what it was 10 years earlier) but a drop back to 6/6 for the later 2.
My 1913 is in poor condition on its front, but okay inside (I bought it in 2005 in that condition).
They are interesting to read for the "attitudes" of the time. As below.
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This had disappeared by 1923, but not surprisingly was back in 1940.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 09:27:20 am 
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My 1913 is my favourite and its very well worn as you can see. I will showcase it as it was printed in February 1913 and therefore its nearly reaching its century of age. :D
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Just before the war, its really a salute to the old gilded age, complete with eleitism, no one today would wear a badge made out of 9 carat gold on their lapel. Yet in 1912 if you were of a better class, you were expected too.

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The part about the Great army of Stamp collectors is amusing. Lesser mortals such as my self would settled for the "Gilt Metal" version.
Even more amusing is the "Ideal album"
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Theres no way you could fit all the stamps of world into one normal sized volume today, and especially not Liberia (Which was a wallpaper producer even then - definitive sets were issued in 1892, 1898, 1906, 1909, 1915, 1918, 1921, 1923 and so on)
This album like all others seems to have classes of binding, ranging from skilful art boards up to embossed morroco leather. Its amazing to see how classist people were 100 years ago, yet their expensive leather albums on gilded bindings with art quality quadrille leavings weren't known for their acid bath properties back then.

Some prices - Penny Black mint and used 25 shillings and 1/6, 2d blue 8 quid and 7/6. The Australian Commonwealth had just released its first roos from 1/2d to 6d, and the 1 and 2 shillings, all are at sale at slight above face value, the 2/- is 2/8 mint and no prices for used. The addenda has the 9d, 5s, 10s and the 20s (They obviously had not seen the one and two pounds). The 5s was 6/3 mint and 12/6 for the 10/-. The 20/- (Sic) and 9d are unpriced.
The famous 5 pound victoria cost only 90 pounds mint and 10 pounds for the 1882 type and a mere 8 pounds mint and 75/- used in the white paper version.

If anyone else wants to know what a stamp cost them, let me know.

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