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I just received a selection of stamps from an out of province seller, and as with close to 10% of my mail, Canada post didn't cancel the stamp on the cover (nice high value one too ). Would this stamp be considered mint/no gum, or used, no cancel?

Depends on how honest you want to be. I would call it Mint No Gum & value it the same as a CTO (somewhere between used & Mint Hinged), I think most people in the know would automatically assume it was soaked off an envelope. I think a new Term of 'Mint Used' needs to be created.

D.

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I use the term Mint No Gum (MNG) for skips/non-cancelled stamps.

And for stamps that were issued without gum (early asia, etc.) I use the Term Mint No Gum As Issued (MNGAI).

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On our club sheets, I have seen the term "used, uncancelled"

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Thanks for the feed back all. I've got a fair number of these 'skips' and have wondered how to approach them (not that it ever crossed my mind to reuse them postally ). I think they should go back to hand cancelling, as the volume of letter mail must be way down. Just don't let them use ball-point pens to do it

Or as Michel put it (*), without gum, as issued. The only exceptions that I know of are the Ostropa sheet and the Hindenburgs, which have acid gum. They are priced as mint when the gum has been removed, and are listed as (*).

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I was always under the impression that Mint equaled having gum, whether hinged or unhinged. No gum would be unused or NGAI, no gum as issued. In your case, used uncancelled ?

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I must admit, this is a major irritation for me with regard to EBay. Listed as 'mint', when you read the blurb, you find that they are hinged. To me, 'mint' is as it came across the counter. Were I in charge of EBay, sellers would be restricted to 'mint' 'hinged' or 'used'. I appreciate that there are oddities like the Hindenburgs, but they are the exceptions, and, TBH, it really matters not whether they are hinged as they are gumless anyway.

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When I see a stamp listed on eBay as "mint no gum", for valuation purposes I assume it is "used". I would expand on Machaggis52's comment by dividing the categories into "mint", "mint hinged" (meaning original gum present but "hinged") and "used". The term "unused" is unclear. I interpret it to mean "mint no gum" or "uncancelled used" but I think some sellers use it to describe "mint hinged" stamps. The issue becomes complicated when the truly "used" stamps are more valuable than their "mint" counterparts. Perhaps the term "uncancelled no gum" should be introduced into the philatelic lexicon.

Personally, I would describe a stamp that has been used but not canceled as "used, uncanceled."

My understanding of the term "mint" has been that--at least here in the USA--it refers to a stamp that has not gone through the mail and has at least some of its original gum.

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Mint : Undamaged as if freshly minted: The painting was in mint condition.

When I hear Mint 'post office fresh', its like saying, mint mint . or A.T.M machine or L.P.G. gas

Used : Not new; secondhand: a used car.
some may be ill-used, put-upon, victimised, vandalised, exploited, re-used and in your case re-useable but it is used make no mistake

When I hear used, I know what im getting is one of the above hopefully not the exploited variety.

When I hear 'Mint used post office fresh vvlh gem' I just laugh and think, what a w4nker. Its USED !

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I take your point, but would like to expand a little. When one collects Germany, the difference in value between hinged and non-hinged can be immense, therefore, I do not buy hinged. The reason for my irritation in regard to EBay is that when the term 'mint' is used in the heading, if the item is of interest, I have to read the full listing to find 'hinged' in tiny print in the final line. If people were obliged to state condition in the heading, it would save me, and others, a lot of time.

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