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Hello everyone, I recently purchased some W.A swan stamps and one of them has a marking on the back, is it a Dealers mark and if so who is it and why on the back of a Swan? Is there something special about this stamp?




Many Thanks
Michael

Collector mark most likely.

Thank you GA.

It looks a little messy, I suppose I have it now so worrying about it won't help .

Hi everyone, I have a stamp with a expertize mark by L. Schmutz looks to be a penciled signature also. I don't think there is anything special with this stamp, but I am extremely limited in knowledge maybe an error or possibly something to do with the perfs. Can someone help ?





Thank you for looking
Michael

Don't know if this has anything to do with it, but here's one lot from google

http://www.stampspoland.nl/series/plebi ... tyn01.html

If you google the overprint, there are plenty of other sites about the stamps as well!

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I am having fun collecting WW and Indian States.

Many thanks hutch, it seems to be like all the others, normal to me.

Cheers
Michael

This is also another interesting bit of information about the stamps:

quote
"Allenstein, 1920 (Scott #1)
Overprinted Germany Stamp
Allenstein (Olsztyn, in Polish) was a district in East Prussia (basically present day Germany). Following the end of hostilities of World War I, the population of Allenstein was allowed to determine whether they would be part of East Prussia or Poland.

As World War I ended, Allenstein was administered by the Allied Forces. The Treaty of Versailles, which marked the formal end of World War I, specified in Articles 94 and 95 that Allenstein could hold a vote to determine their national alignment. This vote for self-determination is called a plebiscite.

In April, 1920, 28 German postage stamps were overprinted with messages calling attention to the upcoming vote. The first 14 stamps were overprinted with "PLEBISCITE / OLSZTYN / ALLENSTEIN" while the second 14 read "TRAITÉ / DE / VERSAILLES / ART. 94 et 95" referring to the Articles 94 and 95 of the treaty. Both overprints are shown nearby. The 14 stamps in each run are identical, except for which overprint was used.

On July 11, 1920, the plebiscite was held. Almost 98% of the voting population chose to remain with East Prussia. The area remained under German control until the end of World War II when it was subsumed by Poland, to which the area remains allied to this day.


Allenstein Overprints
The plebiscite stamps were not valid for postage very long. By August 20, 1920, they were invalidated. Thus the stamps, and hence the district's total stamp issuance, had a lifespan of not quite 5 months.

Interestingly, these stamps are not very expensive, in either used or unused condition. One would think that with such a short period of time and such a short period of postal validity that they would have achieved a certain rarity. However that is not the case.

The 28 stamps issued by Allenstein catalog for under $45 (US) for mint condition according to the Scott Standard Postage Stamp Catalog (2006). Used Allenstein stamps catalog for about double that amount. The bulk of the value for the Allenstein stamps comes from the two overprinted 15-pfennig violet brown stamps, Scott #4 and #18. Together these two stamps account for over half of the catalog value for the entire set.

For No. 1 collectors (those who collect the 1st catalog-listed stamp for a country), the first stamp should be easy to find for under $1 (US).

All in all, Allenstein stamps represent a fun little niche to collect. It is easy for any level of collector to afford the entire set of issued stamps." end-quote

The stamps obviously haven't come up in the copy but easy to find on google.


http://www.stampsofdistinction.com/2008 ... stein.html

Hope this helps. Anne

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I am having fun collecting WW and Indian States.

Hey Mickey, I think they are rather special!!! And used!!

It must be pretty cool to have some in your collection! I didn't even know about them until now. I'd never seen one before!

Anne

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I am having fun collecting WW and Indian States.

Anne it does help a lot indeed, the overprint I shown has some value and a bit of history behind it, I have a bit of reading to do to get the full understanding of the history into my little brain.
I have 3 others with the same overprint, with no signature on back, 5pf, 10pf & 20pf.

Thank you for you help Anne
Michael

You're welcome Michael!

I think it's safe to say that we have both learned something today!

Thank you for posting up the stamp in the first place! I love trying to solve a puzzle and learning more about stamps as well!

I'll have to keep an eye out on feebay for some now so I can say I have one as well

Anne

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Here are the others, I forgot I had another one still on paper.







Micky

I will have to talk to my supplier of these, she came from a place in Poland which was overtaken by Germany. Will let you know more if she has anymore if your still interested.

Cheers Anne

Michael

So I guess the signature is for the higher scarcity of the 15pf.

Thank you Michael, I would be VERY interested! They are really lovely stamps and have such history...don't you wish they could talk and tell you where they had been?

Look forward to hearing from you!

Anne

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I am having fun collecting WW and Indian States.

Leslaw Schmutz is a polish stamp expert on German Occupied Poland
Here's my series:

still missing the 15 Pfg brown

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greetings,
danny.

Yes Anne I will try see my friend before I go to China next month.

Thanks
Michael

Nice lot dannyvd I will have a look for the missing one, will let you know.

Hey Micky,
Thanks for your kind offer, but what I meant was:

Sadly the 15 Pfg brown is missing in this lot.

I do have the stamp, but not on piece and certainly not
as nicely cancelled as these ones are.

Sorry for the confusion !

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greetings,
danny.

Very nice lot Danny. It's really good to see all of the stamps (except for the 15 Pfg )

Good luck in your search for it on paper!

Thanks very much Michael, very much appreciated!

Anne

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I am having fun collecting WW and Indian States.

Hi all, just asking a silly question again. This is my third stamp with something on reverse, dealers mark maybe.

Anyone know of it? Maybe it's an early signature stamp.




Cheers
Micky.

Owner stamp I'd say Micky.

Ok Cool, thanks GA. I'm building up a small collection without trying

Micky is happy

http://www.filatelia.fi/experts/

For those interested in dealer marks etc on the reverse of stamps a useful database can be found using the above link. The H I dont think is mentioned.

Here is a google translation from polish about Schmutz. The translation is not so good but gives a idea about Schmutz.

Lesław Schmutz, ur.1.08.1934, Stoneware Strumiłowa (up to 1939 images. Tarnopol). In 1951, he joined the Polish Union of Philatelists of Circle No. 1 in. Since 1953 lives in Cracow. Since 1959 performs philatelic expert, initially characters mail box camp, the military and the Lodz ghetto during the Second World War. In 1971, expanded the powers of an expert on all the Polish postal marks. Many times he was guardian of candidates for the PFA expert and member of the examination for candidates for experts. PFA member of the College of Experts. In 1955 he exhibited for the first time Poland 1944-1954 exhibit at the Sixth OWF "Poznań'55". It is an exhibitor of numerous exhibits, including: Mail the camp II C Woldenberg, Issues papers on "Goznaku" Krakow edition of 1919 - a collection of research, Postal stationery Cracow edition of 1919, the local editions of 1918-1919, Letters from Silesia przdznaczkowe from the years 1747-1850, Poland 1860-1939-a collection dedicated to presenting the world's total of 23.wystawach ("Stockholmia'86", "Bulgaria'89", "Londyn'90", "Polska'93 ',' Finland ' 95 '), national, national and regional, earning high honors medals, including two large gold medal and Grand Prix Exhibitions (XVIII OWF "Wałbrzych - Książ'99" and nineteenth OWF "Katowice 2003"). He participated as a juror or an expert in a number of philatelic exhibitions. Known and respected journalist in the field of philately. He made his debut article about counterfeiting postage stamps camp VII A Murnau ("philatelist," 1960). Author and co-author (with Mariusz Kalinowski, Jerzy Waloch, Henry Monkosem, Kazimierz staff) over 140.artykułów research published in "Filatelisty", "Lodz Philatelic Bulletin", "Historical Research Philatelic Bulletin", "Filatelisty Malopolska," "Review of Philatelic "and" Philately ". Author of the issue papers in 1920 for Upper Silesia (3.części, Yearbook of the European Academy of Philately "Opus" 2009-2011). Co-author (with Kazimierz staff) monograph Stamps release of "Polish Post Office / General - Gouv. Warschau "of 1918 and 1919 (Cat. No. Fi: 6-16) [2009] (with M. Kalinowski) Catalogue of postage stamps of the Polish lands 1991/1992 and 1992-1993 (1991, 1992). Chairman of the Historical District PFA Research in Krakow (1969-1977) and since 1980 the District PZF in. Judge philatelic First Class (1989). He participated in the training of aspirants to contest judges PFA. Member of the Polish Academy of Philately (1993) and the European Academy of Philately (2004). Repeatedly presented the results of their research on the Polish postal registered at the following conferences PAF. In the years 1969-1981 expert Cracow Regional Court in the field of philately. The philatelic activities awarded the Gold Medal of Honor PFA (1986), a gold badge "Merit for Polish Philatelic" (1999), three times the medal "For Services for the Development of Philatelic Publications" (1985, 1992, 1998), a gold badge "Distinguished Employee Communications" (1988). At the XIX General Assembly of PFA (Lubin 2006) received the dignity of Honorary Member of the PFA. Twice awarded the statuette "Prymus" in the category "Best journalist of the year" (for 1998) and in the category "For all activities for the Polish philately" (2009). Received the "Medal. John Witkowski" awarded by the German association of Polish stamps collectors' Arge Polen "(2002).

It is €1.00 used. It is the brown 15Pf that is the rarer stamp.

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With kind regards, Jim