Help with ID on these Western Australia swan stamps?

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Help with ID on these Western Australia swan stamps?

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I really struggle with identifying these.

Any help would be greatly received.

This album has come down through the ages and there are some annotations which I can't verify regarding the AC, CC, CA annotations.

Also what does convict mean?



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Expanded totally lazy 3 word meaningless heading, centred images, added spacing, loaded them inline correctly, and turned it into a QUESTION of some kind.

Do you own a stamp catalogue of ANY kind?

Or do you just assume members here will cheerfully spend hours sorting your 50 or so stamps?

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Tough crowd here ain't it!
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nephthyss wrote:
17 Apr 2021 00:03
Tough crowd here ain't it!
You have shown photos of stamps which appear on my huge screen at slightly less than stamp size.

You have referred to some abbreviations without mentioning that they are small annotations against some of the stamps and are illustrated in the photos - you might have been referring to abbreviations in a catalogue.

You have asked what 'convict' means, and of course we know you must know what it means because New Zealanders are educated and know that their friends on the big island across the water are all descended from convicts (joke) so without you pointing out that this is another tiny notation in the picture, we cannot read your mind. (I had to look really closely at the screen to read that scrawl on the second picture and I can identify a bird in the top of a 30 foot tree.)

As you will see if you look at other similar requests, the best information is obtained by asking specific questions and showing good pictures, preferably scans of individual or very small groups of similar stamps, and showing them at a decent size.

Like this or bigger:

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Norvic.. thank you for an example of scan sizes and quality. I am sure that they are in the general admissions and Help areas on the Board Index.

But your helpfulness and kindness is always going to elicit the best out of everyone.

The original poster could probably try using the search facility too, I am quite sure these particular stamps have probably been dealt with several times on several posts.. !

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Thank you for the feedback regarding the post, from your tone it seems you have to deal with quality issues like this a lot. Please kindly point me to area where people, who are new to this site, can read and understand the expectations of the admin team. The Stampboards guide on how to get the best out of your post. This would be helpful so I don't attract your ire again in the future. No I don't own a catalog, I use resources at the library, which as you will know aren't anywhere near as good as the expertise on this site.

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Let's be reasonable about this - if you want our help, you must meet us halfway. It can be time consuming attempting to identify stamps presented en masse from a screen grab or scan.

However, since you don't have a catalogue, it seems pointless to me to give you the catalogue numbers or other identification. I suggest you go back to the library and ask for Stanley Gibbons' part 1 catalogue or buy an old one from Amazon, eBay or abebooks.com. You can then start to identify your own stamps and become a philatelist rather than a stamp collector. Since you only want to identify and not value your stamps a 10-year-old catalogue will suffice. Just buy the most recent edition that you can afford.

If there are a few stamps you cannot identify, that is then the time to ask here. It is extremely unfair of you to ask us to identify ALL your WA stamps.

I'll give you a few tips:

1 The stamps that are signed have been used for revenue purposes and will have no value but may help in identifying others.

2 The CC and CA suggest watermarks - if you don't know what this means, read the introduction to your catalogue as a start. You will need to remove the stamps from the album to identify the watermark most easily. You should never rely on someone else's opinion in any case - they could be wrong - so just use the annotations as a guide.

3 I would remove the stamps from the album, anyway, since the paper looks cheap and will eventually damage the stamps.

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If the original poster types in "Western Australia visual catalogue" in the search bar he will find a thread devoted to his area of interest.

The older posts are mainly of cataloguing information; the newer ones more a discussion of particular areas arousing specialist interest.

I'd include a link but it's a bit hard to do from my phone.

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satsuma wrote:
17 Apr 2021 09:13
If the original poster types in "Western Australia visual catalogue" in the search bar he will find a thread devoted to his area of interest.

The older posts are mainly of cataloguing information; the newer ones more a discussion of particular areas arousing specialist interest.

I'd include a link but it's a bit hard to do from my phone.
The Stamps Of Western Australia. A Visual Catalogue

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=27923&hilit ... +catalogue

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Hunter+- wrote:
17 Apr 2021 05:56

Please kindly point me to area where people, who are new to this site, can read and understand the expectations of the admin team.

I assume you mean The Rules - ALL members are assumed to have read them - there is a tab atop each page -

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2556

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I will add a few bits of information , do not remove the backing paper off the 1d black as it appears it may well be the envelope paper, its rare that way and worth more, you have the pair of Telegraph stamps on the page they are of some value mainly in the 6d stamp.

CA and CC refers to the watermark pressed into the Paper during manufacture.

Convict stamp is the most popular name given to the round puncture present on that stamp, it was also used by other government departments, if you have no experience in removing these stamps then seek assistance or you will suffer bad losses, its a nice lot overall so seek out a used catalogue so you can ID them all.

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dukeprince wrote:
17 Apr 2021 12:47

do not remove the backing paper off the 1d black as it appears it may well be the envelope paper, its rare that way and worth more

This is like the blind leading the blind. :twisted:

Even from that tiny image, can't you see it has been attacked by silverfish or bookworms etc who have munched most margins and inner design ????????????????

But you are telling our new collector retaining that destruction makes it "worth more". :?: :?: :?: :?:

Circular Commissariat punctures have NOTHING to do with "convicts". :roll: :roll:


If this new collector cannot be bothered to speed a few $s on a used catalogue, for stamps worth $100s, he has his priorities wrong.

OR read the superb detailed thread on WA here, if he is that tight-fisted - Catalogues are ESSENTIAL -


The Stamps Of Western Australia. A Visual Catalogue

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=27923

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Post by erich »

The #1 is probably the best stamp there, but there is something weird going on with it, as Glen noted (aside from being in the "imperfs cut up by drunks" category).

The 2 revenues that are overprinted postage stamps are worth a few bucks. The 1/- is Barefoot #9 CV £15 (my catalogue is old, it might be more now). The 1d is either Barefoot 1, 2, or 3, but they all cat £5.

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