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Would this be Tangimoana, New Zealand? It was on a cut with 2 Australian stamps and a Ship Mail postmark.

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Does anyone have an opening date for the North Lakes post office? It's not in PPA or the Queensland steel datestamp book. It should also be added to the Queensland post office list.

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North Lakes, Queensland
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North Lakes is a suburb of the Moreton Bay Region, Queensland. North Lakes is located approximately 26 km north of the Brisbane central business district. At the 2016 census the suburb recorded a population of 21,671.

Originally part of Mango Hill, North Lakes was gazetted as a separate suburb by the Department of Natural Resources, Mines and Water in February 2006


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Thanks, BigSaint. It's a bit surprising to see a new Post Office open anymore, more seem to closing than opening.

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eharper wrote:
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Thanks, BigSaint. It's a bit surprising to see a new Post Office open anymore, more seem to closing than opening.
The development of the North Lakes region only commenced in 2004. It was basically farmland and bush until then. It now covers quite a large area and is ongoing.

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Post Office. Mango Hill Queensland. Photo taken on 27/10/03.
Post Office. Mango Hill Queensland. Photo taken on 27/10/03.

Name changed to North Lakes not long after.
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Mango Hill, Queensland.
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Location 25 km (16 mi) from Brisbane GPO

Mango Hill is a suburb in the Moreton Bay Region, Queensland. In the 2016 census, Mango Hill had a population of 8,434 people.

Although locally known by this name since the 1950s, it wasn't until 1 September 1980 that it was formally decreed. The name Mango Hill was chosen to commemorate the section of Mango trees (Magnifera indica) that were planted along the 700 metre (2,300 ft) section of Anzac Avenue that passes through the area.

In March 2006, the Department of Natural Resources, Mines and Water subdivided the northern section of Mango Hill to form the suburb of North Lakes.

Although now separated, the area still reaps the benefits of the major infrastructure and retail upgrades that have taken place in North Lakes in recent years, including the Moreton Bay Rail Link and shopping outlets such as Costco and IKEA. This has resulted in a significant boost to economic growth in the Moreton Bay Region.

North Lakes State College opened on 1 January 2002.

The Lakes College opened on 24 January 2005.

Mango Hill State School opened on 1 January 2012.

In the 2016 census, Mango Hill had a population of 8,434 people.

Mango Hill State Secondary College opened on 1 January 2020. It officially opened on the 26 August 2020.


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Nothing about a Post Office here nor is there in Phoenix.


From Phoenix - no Mango Hill
From Phoenix - no Mango Hill

Not in Dell & Price as presumably no steel date stamps used in that post office.


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North Lakes Post Shop is located in the Westfield North Lakes Shopping Centre, Shop 1204a 1 North Lakes Drive, NORTH LAKES, QLD, 4509

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Westfield North Lakes is a shopping centre in North Lakes on the northern outskirts of Brisbane. The centre first opened in on 7 August 2003 and initially included around 80 stores including Target and Coles. In early 2007, construction began on a major extension that was set to bring the total number of stores in the centre to over 200. The extension was opened to the public in October of the same year, including Big W and Woolworths stores and a food court which replaced the old one that was demolished due to the expansion. In May 2008, the centre's 2-level Myer store was opened, which replaced the Myer store in Strathpine Centre that closed in 2007. IKEA opened their second Queensland store at Westfield North Lakes in November 2016. Stage 3 also has 60 additional stores, including Kmart, Rebel Sport, JB HI-FI and Cotton On.


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From Mr Puffin's image above we know the post shop was there in 2003, & probably from the first day the shopping centre opened, 7th August 2003. What requires further research it whether the Mango Hill Post Office was at another location prior to that date. Perhaps one of the locals may know. Maybe Jeneralist may have some postmarks of Mango Hill from 2003 or earlier. :idea:
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There was no post office in the Mango Hill area before the construction of the shopping centre.
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Thanks everyone, too bad about Mango Hill. It would have been an interesting postmark to look for.

This one is interesting. It's a Western Australia stamp with a GPO postmark from the 1870's and overlaying that is what I believe is a Singapore, P.O. postmark. Does anyone have an 1870's or 1880's Singapore postmark that might match?

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Saw this early Victoria stamp and wondered about the red cancel under the black one. Retro Reveal shows that it's a Paid cancel with a crown under it and something at the bottom I can't make out. Does anyone know where this cancel is from?

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That's what I thought at first, but the S seems to be followed by a rounded letter not a Y.

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Probably this one from Millenium Auction 73 'Paid Melbourne' with the date under the crown
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less likely considering it's a Victoria stamp - (from Guybon John Hutson's 'The Stamps of New South Wales'), 'Paid New South Wales' with the date under the crown:
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Hi All,

I am trying to get a picture of the following Australia FDI CDS, used on the 1977 Australia Silver Jubilee FDC? :-
Sydney (374 George St.) NSW

I have googled it, but seems to indicate it is in a shopping centre, is there a PO in the shopping centre, or has it since been removed?

Any help would be appreciated.
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Thanks muttly2011, it looks like the Melbourne one with the date under the crown. It looks like the Melbourne one you show differs from the one on the PPA site which doesn't have the star between the day and month. Someone might want to send the above image to PPA.

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desmond_maughan wrote:
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Hi All,

I am trying to get a picture of the following Australia FDI CDS, used on the 1977 Australia Silver Jubilee FDC? :-
Sydney (374 George St.) NSW

I have googled it, but seems to indicate it is in a shopping centre, is there a PO in the shopping centre, or has it since been removed?

Any help would be appreciated.
Desmond,

Sorry, I don't know about the Shopping Centre, but 364 George Street is roughly the location of the "Sydney GPO" - its offical address is 1 Martin Place.

That location has long been the main Sydney Post Office, and the Philatelic Sales Centre was located there (off George Street) for years - at my last visit there was still an Australia Post Shop there.

Hope this helps, Greg.

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eharper wrote:
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Thanks everyone, too bad about Mango Hill. It would have been an interesting postmark to look for.
You can still keep looking for it. There is about a four year period before the name was changed.
The postmark on this photo is from opening day. 27 OCT 2003.


Opening day of Mango Hill, Queensland,  Post Office.
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So there was a postmark, that's an interesting find. You could form a substantial collection of just Australian postmarks with Hill in the name.

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GregoryP wrote:
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desmond_maughan wrote:
09 May 2021 21:58
Hi All,

I am trying to get a picture of the following Australia FDI CDS, used on the 1977 Australia Silver Jubilee FDC? :-
Sydney (374 George St.) NSW

I have googled it, but seems to indicate it is in a shopping centre, is there a PO in the shopping centre, or has it since been removed?

Any help would be appreciated.
Desmond,

Sorry, I don't know about the Shopping Centre, but 364 George Street is roughly the location of the "Sydney GPO" - its offical address is 1 Martin Place.

That location has long been the main Sydney Post Office, and the Philatelic Sales Centre was located there (off George Street) for years - at my last visit there was still an Australia Post Shop there.

Hope this helps, Greg.

Hi Greg,

Thanks for the reply, I've just found the details of the Sydney Philatelic Centre on Stampboard, and indeed it was 374 George Street. It is what's listed on Stamp Preview FDI list of PO in 1975. I did think it could have been a typo on the list, as I have found numerous. Atleast I know now, as I have a number of Sydney postmarks, and no idea which was which in the list as it only lists:-
Stamp Preview 1975 No.2-List of FDI Post Offices_Page_1.jpg
quote=jaywalker post_id=3196091 time=1357063383 user_id=2973]
From Australian Post Office Philatellic Bulletin of June 1970 (Volume 17, Number 6, Whole Number 102), pp 47-48.
New Philatelic Centre, Sydney

The lay-out of the new Sydney Philatelic Centre is shown in the accompanying architect's plans and sketches. Located at 374 George Street, it is scheduled to be opened later this year.

Designed by Department of Works architects in contemporary and elegant style, the shop is divided into four levels. At the entrance, an information-exhibition area is provided, on two levels. The information centre will provide
clients with general advice on services and philatelic enquiries, and will have desk space for writing, affixing stamps and similar activities.

From the information centre, shallow stairs lead up to the exhibition and sales areas. Normally, six counter officers will conduct sales, but provision is made for additional positions when required. Seating is provided, so that clients may write in comfort. Floors will be carpeted, and the building will be air-conditioned. The decor includes a sandstone feature wall, glass and grained board dividers, and wall displays under glass. Reference books and philatelic journals will be available for collectors to browse through.
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Desmond

These excerpts from Colleen Woolley's Oz Pictormarks will help here.

Colleen writes that the new Philatelic Sales Centre adjoined the GPO & provided extended facilities for philatelic clients. This centre was unique as it conducted philatelic sales only & was disassociated with all other postal & telegraph business carried on at Post Offices.


27th July 1971 - Opening of new Philatelic Sales Centre George Street Sydney, NSW, 2000.
27th July 1971 - Opening of new Philatelic Sales Centre George Street Sydney, NSW, 2000.

29th September 1971 - Philatelic Sales Centre, Sydney, NSW, 2000.
29th September 1971 - Philatelic Sales Centre, Sydney, NSW, 2000.

6th June 1973 - Philatelic Sales Centre, Sydney, NSW 2000
6th June 1973 - Philatelic Sales Centre, Sydney, NSW 2000

13th March 1978 - Philatelic Sales Centre, Sydney NSW 2000
13th March 1978 - Philatelic Sales Centre, Sydney NSW 2000

So I think this the postmark you are l@@king for & I would be surprised if you don't already have it.


1977 Wesley Cover Service fdc for QE II Silver Jubilee postmarked Sydney Philatelic Sales Centre - 2nd February 1977.
1977 Wesley Cover Service fdc for QE II Silver Jubilee postmarked Sydney Philatelic Sales Centre - 2nd February 1977.

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Hi BigSaint,

Now it seems like both the Sydney GPO, and the Sydney Philatelic Sales Centre, were both done at the same address, even though 2 seperate buildings.
I have to keep an eye out for a Sydney GPO CDS now.
I had no correlation of which was franked at that address, so thought it might have been a new one to look out for. I think I saw a Sydney GPO one, which confused me, but the date was the 3rd, and not the 2nd of February.
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Hi Desmond

A couple of observations from my fdc collection which is quite large.

Sydney had a lot of post offices in the Sydney CBD that had fdi postmarks, the two I have the most examples of in the 1960s are the Sydney GPO & Clarence Street Sydney.

With the introduction of the Sydney Philatelic Sales Centre fdi Opera House postmark, the usage of those two fdi postmarks seems to have ceased.


WCS fdc for 1971 Aboriginal Art stamps postmarked with Sydney Philatelic Sale Centre Opera House pictorial fdi postmark - 29th September 1971 the first day of use.
WCS fdc for 1971 Aboriginal Art stamps postmarked with Sydney Philatelic Sale Centre Opera House pictorial fdi postmark - 29th September 1971 the first day of use.

After 29th September 1971 & up to 1980, I have no examples of the Clarence Street Sydney fdi postmark & only one Sydney GPO postmark.


WCS fdc Architecture postmarked GPO Sydney - 17th October 1973 the latest date I have seen.<br /><br />Mr G L Hale was a fdc collector who collected his fdcs with postmarks relevant to the stamp issue.
WCS fdc Architecture postmarked GPO Sydney - 17th October 1973 the latest date I have seen.

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No issues identifying this one:

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WA Barrow Island PO 7/11/1966; closed 31/1/1985


Any clues on scarcity? Due to the oil drilling facility, I'm assuming it's more common than the location might suggest (of the NW coast of WA - middle of nowhere!)
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Has anybody seen this postmark before? I guess it could be for General Delivery?

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Hi!

Can anyone help me with these two NSW postmarks!? I`m not sure if they are identifiable at all, but what I thought might be interesting, is the date slug error on the postmark. I`ve had the left hand stamp for quite a while and found it interesting, that it was posted in mid-age 26 JY 1519! ;) I expected it to be just a single date slug error, but now I`ve found a second copy which seems to be from the same post office and which also has the same date-slug error, but now dated in AU 1519!? So that error must have been unnoticed for at least about one week or longer!? Can anyone guess which post-office it is!? Maybe as it was used with the error for small period of time, it might be collectable and maybe it should be seen as a "constant" error!? Any help or any opinions would be great! To me it seems the name starts with MO... and it is not a long name.
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It looks like it starts with Mo, which isn't much help.

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eharper wrote:
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It looks like it starts with Mo, which isn't much help.
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Yes it looks like ‘ MO’ & maybe an ‘A’ at the end. Perhaps 8 letters in the name. A few possibilities.
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The Pom wrote:
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No issues identifying this one:


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WA Barrow Island PO 7/11/1966; closed 31/1/1985


Any clues on scarcity? Due to the oil drilling facility, I'm assuming it's more common than the location might suggest (of the NW coast of WA - middle of nowhere!)
Hi Chris,
As you suggest, this Barrow Island cancel is not rare.
In Goulder's PMC, it is rated 2-3.

His rarity scale is rather different to the norm:
with 0-1 = should exist.
1 = known to exist in very low numbers, frequently as part impressions.
1-2 = known to exist in low numbers, frequently in part impressions.
2 = known to exist in low numbers, more now known with better impressions.
2-3 = known to exist in increasing quantities.
etc.etc.
(I'm not a fan of this rarity scale, however it is one of the very few to exist for WA postal markings.)

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josto wrote:
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Hi!

Can anyone help me with these two NSW postmarks!? I`m not sure if they are identifiable at all, but what I thought might be interesting, is the date slug error on the postmark. I`ve had the left hand stamp for quite a while and found it interesting, that it was posted in mid-age 26 JY 1519! ;) I expected it to be just a single date slug error, but now I`ve found a second copy which seems to be from the same post office and which also has the same date-slug error, but now dated in AU 1519!? So that error must have been unnoticed for at least about one week or longer!? Can anyone guess which post-office it is!? Maybe as it was used with the error for small period of time, it might be collectable and maybe it should be seen as a "constant" error!? Any help or any opinions would be great! To me it seems the name starts with MO... and it is not a long name.

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Hi Josto,
Rather than MO as the first 2 letters, I think it could be HO.
This makes the possibility of HOMEBUSH?? as an option.

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The last letter may be a K. Possibly HOLBROOK.

Sorry a couple of months too early for that. It was Gormanston until September 1915.

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rsellers,

It was GERMANTOWN not GORMANSTON,

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Hi!

Thanks for all the suggestions! Maybe it's just not identifiable!? Nevertheless a curios date slug error I think. Perhaps it could be Morpeth!? For the ending I thought it might be A, N or H!?

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BigSaint wrote:
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Hi Desmond

A couple of observations from my fdc collection which is quite large.

Sydney had a lot of post offices in the Sydney CBD that had fdi postmarks, the two I have the most examples of in the 1960s are the Sydney GPO & Clarence Street Sydney.

With the introduction of the Sydney Philatelic Sales Centre fdi Opera House postmark, the usage of those two fdi postmarks seems to have ceased.


Image

After 29th September 1971 & up to 1980, I have no examples of the Clarence Street Sydney fdi postmark & only one Sydney GPO postmark.


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Hi BigSaint,

I don't know what CBD is?, I have quiet a number of different Sydney CDS'' North, South, Philatelic Sales Centre, and University. I can't find the cover, which I thought was different, the PMK was really faint, I thought I had a picture of it. I rembered noticing it was the 3rd of Feb 1977, I seem to remember the Phil Sales Centre text on it, I just can't remember much more about it it was so faint.
I'm just surprised all the postmarks weren't done the same, the way Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth etc, all had quiet a number of similar CDS's.
I think your right it's just the pictorial Sydney Opera House one for Sydney itself, and no GPO Sydney.
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CBD.
Central Business District.
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Hi all.

Appreciate some help if possible with the one below.
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AUST .......POSTAL STN 390


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Shocking condition of the stamp I know but any clue to the full name on the postmark?
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If anyone can decipher it, could you also let me know whether it is usual to also be undated like this?

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GB 789 wrote:
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Shocking condition of the stamp I know but any clue to the full name on the postmark?

ImageIf anyone can decipher it, could you also let me know whether it is usual to also be undated like this?

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Looks like Williamstown, Victoria to me.

I am not a postmark collector so can't help with the absence of a date.

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Agree with Williamstown. They simply forgot to insert the date plugs before cancelling the stamp.
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Thank you for your help 👍

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I feel like I should be able to work this one out:


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Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Start with Bundamba Brad. See if it matches the details of type 4.

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Thank you Mr Puffin, the old name of Ipswich Racecourse. :D
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Another 30,000 1d reds checked, with lots of postmarks I need help with.
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Any ideas about this one?
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Scan not good enough to decipher the R.O. above?

How about this one:-
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Although the C is not really visible, it appears to be Cowwar. All Pheonix says is, "See Cowwarr".(?)
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Looks like Cowwar, Victoria, PPA lists this one as used between 1912 to 1942.

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I believe we're now supposed to use Pheonix, and that just says 'see Cowwarr'.
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mobbor wrote:
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I believe we're now supposed to use Pheonix, and that just says 'see Cowwarr'.
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The Phoenix site shows this as the Cowwarr Date stamp from October 1912 until June 1942.
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Not sure what's happening Ross, but when I go to Phoenix, I see, 'see cowwarr'. When I go to cowwarr, it says 'Renamed fro Upper Heyfield P.O. 1870. LPO 5/10/1993.

Another one I can't find:-
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