Nicaragua stamps, can anyone tell me what these are?

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Nicaragua stamps, can anyone tell me what these are?

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I found these Nicaragua "stamps" in an album, and after a lot of searching I still can't find any reference to them.

Can anyone help?

Thanks, Alan Parry
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One or two members collect Nicaragua, so hopefully they will see this question (phrag99 for example) or perhaps a world collector like Kuikka who has an extensive library.

Very basically Nicaragua brought out some Volcano issues around 1900 showing Momotombo. Yours look like proofs. There were several unofficial issues of the volcano stamps in addition to the official ones valid for postal use. I don't have any Nicaragua catalogues so can not unfortunately give any details or note anything on authenticity.

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Following. Very interesting stamps.
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These look like cutouts from stamped envelopes in 1900. You miss two values: 10 and 15 centavos. The set is Senf (1911) #48-53.

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This is Nicaragua, so it isn't quite that simple!!

These are NOT cut from stationery - look at them and you can see that they are all the same, regular size, resulting from an official release. At one time they were called "newspaper stamps" but there is no evidence that they were ever used for that purpose. One occasionally sees them on cover.

There were, in fact not 6 but 7 of them: 5c 10c 20c 30c 50c squares measuring 55 mm by 52 mm and
2c and 4c measuring 51 mm by 51 mm. I seem to recall that two values were either printed ion 2 types of paper or were printed on different paper to the other 5. They are catalogued by Scotts'.

I don't collect this era, and cannot show the missing values. Sorry.

Edit: I forgot to add that stationery of 1900 does have identical indicia.

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Seebecks?
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phrag99 wrote:
13 Jul 2020 04:16
This is Nicaragua, so it isn't quite that simple!!

These are NOT cut from stationery - look at them and you can see that they are all the same, regular size, resulting from an official release. At one time they were called "newspaper stamps" but there is no evidence that they were ever used for that purpose. One occasionally sees them on cover.

There were, in fact not 6 but 7 of them: 5c 10c 20c 30c 50c squares measuring 55 mm by 52 mm and
2c and 4c measuring 51 mm by 51 mm. I seem to recall that two values were either printed ion 2 types of paper or were printed on different paper to the other 5. They are catalogued by Scotts'.

I don't collect this era, and cannot show the missing values. Sorry.

Edit: I forgot to add that stationery of 1900 does have identical indicia.
Thanks phrag99 for your insight. However, I do not have access to Scotts so have no idea whether these “stamps” have any value. As I said in my introductory post I will eventually be selling my collection, and am trying to figure out if they have any value or whether they will land up in the trash.
Could you expand on your statement “I forgot to add that stationery of 1900 does have identical indicia”. I’m not sure I understand what this means.
Thanks, Alan Parry

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Please don't put them in the trash! I'm sure someone here will take them, if only for the price of postage.

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Just to clarify - these are nothing to do with Nicholas Seebeck who had an arrangement with Nicaragua to producne all philatelic material between 1890 and 1899. In fact, Seebeck had died of TB well before these stamps were produced.

The issues of stamps and postal stationery from 1900 are known as Asenjo's by some, as he was the agent who ensured their production. Although not as famous as Seebeck he continued the tfadition by producing bogus stamps for collectors!

Nicaraguan postal stationery issued in 1900 included cards that had the same design as the stamps that Alan was enquiring about. I am not at home ( my first days away since lockdown commenced) but when I return I will see what I have and post here accordingly.

These stamps are not common but I cannot give you a current valuation. I will make enquieries of my collector friends.

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Thanks Phragg99, seems like every time I run across items like this they are Seebecks.
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Goodwin wrote:
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Please don't put them in the trash! I'm sure someone here will take them, if only for the price of postage.
I wont be putting the stamps in the trash! I have been trolling around the internet and found someone on eBay who is selling one of the stamps for £40. So they are obviously of some value if one can believe eBay.

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Remember that on eBay anyone can list an item for whatever they want. That doesn’t mean anyone would actually pay that amount and also doesn’t mean the valuation is accurate. Use the sold feature on the left side to see what people actually paid.
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OK, so here is an item of postal stationery from the vaults with an indicium that matches the stamps in the OP


Contrary to my earlier post, this and others are not postcards but envelopes.

This is addressed to Limon, Costa Rica and is dated September 4th, 1900. I was more interested in the back when I bought this!
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phrag99 wrote:
16 Jul 2020 22:30
ImageOK, so here is an item of postal stationery from the vaults with an indicium that matches the stamps in the OP


Contrary to my earlier post, this and others are not postcards but envelopes.

This is addressed to Limon, Costa Rica and is dated September 4th, 1900. I was more interested in the back when I bought this!
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Thanks phrag99. I will call this topic closed from my point of view. When it comes to selling my collection I will offer the stamps at a reasonable price.
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