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maszki wrote:In my case after a few successful swaps, the recipient has simply dropped out of sight, no longer posting or seen on Stampboards, and my initial thought - and still my thought- is that something serious has happened in his life.
Yes, this is exactly the situation I was thinking of. We've got a heck of a lot of users on this board and unforeseen events must happen to a fair few of us on a regular basis. Let's face it, I reckon quite a few of us are getting on a bit!

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Tregeor wrote:Interesting thread. However, don't forget people do become seriously ill and end up in hospital or even die and the last thing on relatives minds would be wondering about who had sent an enevelope of stamps.
I'd give folk the benefit of the doubt, unless of course the same person had done the deed more than once!
Actually, there was SB poster that passed away a few years ago with me left owing him stamps. I dug around found the name of a spouse and sent some AUD (and a kind note) to square accounts. Never heard from her again but I hope it did settle affairs.

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I used to exchange regularly - mainly common used stamps in bulk ( not with anyone here). There is a temporary hiatus - I have several hundred stamps to sort and mount.

Just to keep things in perspective only about 5% have gone wrong - only a couple have failed completely - either theft or postal issues. None have gone wrong from my end - I have always sent everything I have said, in the condition I have said.

The biggest problem from the other end is condition. I do not insist on cds copies - in todays climate that is unreasonable - however I do object to thins,tears and creases. The odd one can get missed but 25% faulty which I got from one sender is completely unacceptable.

As I said I exchanged worldwide used common(ish) stamps in bulk. I have had several multiple exchanges until I have run out of material to send to that particular "customer". I have received the odd better item, and several varieties obviously missed or not of interest to the sender but nothing spectacular.

I have not usually traded with "new" traders on trading sites, but only with those who have a previous history, and I also tended to trawl that sites to find the bad eggs.

I can say that in general it has been a positive experience, provided that your expectations are realistic - you are not going to get valuable stuff ( or at least not until you have had several trades under your belt ) and it is not suitable for specialists - unless you find your traders through a specialist society. The more stamps in your collection the fewer new stamps you are going to find - but you can always recycle your duplicates.

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Same name, but same person? - been reported on FB today for cheating a collector in the philipines and blocked him after being questioned about it.

https://www.facebook.com/defying.logic?fref=ts&hc_location=ufi

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Beware of this Indian, he is a cheater. After a long time, he recieved my letter. He told me he also sending his letter to me, until I found out from IPS tracking that the tracking number he sent to me is a fake. He promised to send a picture of the receipt today for the proof but instead he blocked my Facebook accounts. thank you
He might say someone is sick in his family that he has no time to post OR he has lost job OR post is on the way. The novel thing is that he made me send my stamps (luckily for me, they were low CV ones) for his participation in an exhibition at Mumbai which I never got back. Then he took money for procuring me Nova Scotia and Zululand stamps, which again after 6 months and a lot of tussle he refunded back the money. Since then i stopped my transactions with him. After these many years, the same continues
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Am about to warn regarding his activities in Facebook after seeing the same post, but it seems some other member has already posted about it.

This rogue is again back to sullying the name of our country and our reputations, it really boils my blood when such a thing happen!!

Someone in Mumbai, can you please catch hold of him and instil into him the fear of law? For this rotten eggs, genuine stamp buyers and exchangers from India get a bad name, am afraid.

I had also previously posted this stampboard link in facebook for the stampcircuit exchange groups to make their own judgement and forewarnings, but no, everyone wants a nice cover or some fictitious nonsense he wants to send.
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There are much possibilities to be a same person, because the below address is Divyanka's address (given to me during the swap) which is just 400 meters away from the address given in the above letter..

Mrs. Priya Srivastava,
A-2, Punjab society,
20, Tagore Road,
Santacruz (W),
Mumbai - 400054

the distance between Sangam apartments and Punjab society according to google maps..
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at the same time there are lot of Ankits in Mumbai as it is one of the common names.. Need to think that too.. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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I've only been collecting for a few years, but in the very first year I got stung! I lost 500 British commonwealth stamps to this Colombian guy.

He never answered my emails etc. Then a couple of years later I see the guy making the same advert that I answered; 500 Colombian stamps for 500 of yours.

So I immediately emailed him and passed around the message that he was a thief and shouldn't be trusted. His reply? He would send me 3 stamps for every 2 I sent him in a new exchange.

He never even denied that he had received the original 500! You live and learn.
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AllanW1954 - is this person a member here?

If not, what on earth has this got to do with stampboards?

If so, what is his member name and I'll look into it. :idea:

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Global Administrator wrote:AllanW1954 - is this person a member here?

If not, what on earth has this got to do with stampboards?

If so, what is his member name and I'll look into it. :idea:

No, he wasn't a member here. As you can see I'm a new member, and I did say this took place some time ago. Don't know if he is a member here now though. Just trying to join in the discussions.

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The impact when u get cheated when ur expected something very important from an exchange friend is too much at the early stage of your collection.
This guy from Holland offered me lots of elephant stamps (Thats only stuff i collect) and requested me for indian mint sheets, i purchased them from PO and send it to him.. Once i informed him that i have sent him the stamps, he stopped responding to my mails. I wondered he had met with some accident or something.. Later on i found that in another exchange club one collector was talking about this guy..
I would have believed if he had told me that he had send me the stamps and it would have been missed in postage, but in this case there was absolutely no communication. I even send him reminder letter by post (Coz the stamps i had send him was very much valuable for me at that time as a beginer).
I used to send stamps first , to start a swap, coz i used to believe that guys from Europe will never cheat.. This was a big lesson to me..
8 years have passed after that, but i still cant forget that incident.. friends please keep away from this guy.. his mail id was stamp.collector.nl@gmail.com

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Andyref2 wrote:This is an interesting thread. I wonder if most people only offer to "trade" low priced stamps (say $10 USD) or less? Also, what about time to ship the items? I can see something may take awhile, but not to respond to e-mails is just not right.

Something else to consider I suppose before I offer to trade for anything.

Thank you folks for the information!
That's why I made this topic. Not because I feel extremely bitter and cheated out of treasure as indieguy might have mistakenly thought but just to share some information. I agree this is a really minor thing but I don't think such persons shouldn't be pointed out. It's not like it's John Smith from USA!

If it's a "package" trade then people usually do not send anything better the first time. But I have to say these package trades are pretty useless unless it's perhaps stamps from region of which you have a good chance to add anything as a world collector. Other than that, it's either wantlists or save on postage and buy what I need. I did dream that I'd get some duplicates on certain countries for study, even if they are cheap stamps. This could be one of the reasons.

Regarding shipping time - in this case it took about month but as it was Registered letter, I was able to track it's delivery to the destination. NB! Letter was delivered and my message was not answered.
Hi Toivik,

I have multiple envelopes of stamps of nations that are beyond my collecting period that I would happily swap.
The key is to agree that they will send them to you first and you will then send back yours by exchange once you have them. You cannot go wrong with this. Once you trust each other you can drop the conditions.

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I am a nOOb (internet slang for a newbie) here and have just completed reading this entire thread. I have to say I am impressed. The way this person was tracked and cornered. It felt like a crime thriller reading about it. Great work RSK Saran

Now coming to the issue. Everyone is aware of fraudsters on the internet. I have never encountered one first hand and I hope I never do. But I can see how easy it is to be a victim, especially if you are new to using the internet. It takes good patience to help the elders of my family and to tell them the do's and don'ts.

What's more upsetting is that all this began in the year 2011 and up until 2015 Aniket is still cheating people. I did some more searching and guess what, this guy really is scum. He fought with a poor auto driver for Rs.8 (That's US12cents).
MumbaiMirror News Link:https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/mumbai/other/Auto-rage-Ad ... 048588.cms

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This guy is a disgrace to good Indian men.

Lastly, I am Indian. And I will not request this good collaboration of men to not view Indian requests with suspicion. Please do. Make sure the person is genuine. I'm sure the free newbie gift page has been used a few times by jobless greedy Indian guys.And to redeem the Indian name (RKS Saran has done much) I will do whatever I can. Good deeds go a long way, crappy deeds are tattooed to your face.

To combat this I would like the Moderators to add a feature to which we can link our Facebook & Instagram accounts to out stampboard accounts.

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Aniket like to talk a lot as I have found.
Calls himself an intellectual mind.
Calls himself a Hardcore Indian.
I was quick to correct him.

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I have informed where i found Aniket Chiniwalla Lurking.

1.www.betterphilately.com
2.http://mbstamps.blogspot.in
3.Philamirror.Info

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This is the perfect plot for a thriller book! :shock:

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I agree 100%, constantly people take advantage of kindness, they view it a weakness. I call it class, don't worry Karma catches up.

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I liked this thread. I'm Newbie to stampboards. Just joined yesterday and new to stamp collecting as well. This topic is real informative and I would prefer caution. By the way any advice to build up a stamp collection is accepted.

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MargoZ wrote:They are not going to complain about being banned then 8)
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As a beginner, I would only deal with long term and respected members of any forum that I inhabit.

If, especially if, the items were valuable, the person with whom I trade would have to have done so with other members with no issues. I certainly would not join a forum such as this and expect to be treated like a long lost friend until I had established my bona fides.

As someone observed earlier in this thread. Don't lend anything you cannot afford to lose! I would add, unless the person to whom you are lending is a long time, trusted friend whom you know would not intentionally defraud you.

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As a new collector myself I've started trading via an alternative site, stating clearly that I was a new low level collector (a n00b in video game lingo) and what I had to trade was reflective of this. I always offered to send first and many people reached out to me, bit of a risk, but worse case scenario I lose 100 odd items i didn't want anyway and have to spend a few pounds on postage. I have to say, not everybody has fulfilled their obligations yet, but I'm a patient guy. And for those who have helped me out? I'm very grateful and I did very well, I've now got a good few regular trading friends.

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DJM wrote:I get lots of emails asking me to 'swap' or 'give away' stamps. When I offer to SELL them to them I never hear from them again. Works for me.

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duzana wrote:You can swap with me
But not for a while yet, as new members need to be have at least 60 posts, and have been registered here for at least 60 days to participate in swaps. See http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7741

But you can always visit http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=50036 which has many items listed especially for new members.

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Anyone dealt with Faycel Zaltni from Tunisia before? He posts ad on TradeOnlyStamps.com offering stamps from Tunisia, and asks for stamps from USA, Australia, Sweden, Canada, and Western Europe.

I have sent him stamps from Australia, but he has not responded with any stamps at all. He always says he has not received my stamps, but if I wrote the address wrong there is good chance the post office would have returned the mail to me.

So far he's the only trader who hasn't returned my mail, so I think he's a thief, but let me know if anyone else has had a bad experience with him.

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I trade extensively and always have. Most frequently and over the longest period of time, in response to published ads in Linn’s but also in swap circuits with the ISWSC.

In both cases there are barriers and consequences for the dishonest.... as there are here... which explains why I have never been burned.

I have all the trade opportunities I can deal with via such sources and if the duplicates ever start building up, I am sure I’d look for some trade offers here.
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lordofmsn wrote:Anyone dealt with Faycel Zaltni from Tunisia before? He posts ad on TradeOnlyStamps.com offering stamps from Tunisia, and asks for stamps from USA, Australia, Sweden, Canada, and Western Europe. I have sent him stamps from Australia but he has not responded with any stamps at all. He always says he has not received my stamps, but if I wrote the address wrong there is good chance the post office would have returned the mail to me. So far he's the only trader who hasn't returned my mail so I think he's a thief, but let me know if anyone else has had a bad experience with him.
Letters do get lost in the mail now and then. Especially to these kinds of countries. "Lost" can be theft through the whole postal process. I have letters lost to, to people who I really think are not thieves. And vice versa too letters send to me but never arrived. Therefore I am reluctant to exchange with people from these countries. But I have also had great experiences though!

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I am first time here, but I have swap others over many years. But still have many lie on the swap. Don't know how to avoid them.

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This happened to me the other month.

I got an email from someone on the Forum in Australia saying they had seen my posting on a political Cinderella. They said they currently produced Cinderellas for some imaginary countries and that they collected stamps depicting Lenin.

I don't, but I have loads of such stamps as a byproduct of collecting other similar personalities. We continued to exchange emails and I offered to send him envelopes of Lenin stamps. He said he had produced a Trotsky Cinderella in recent years and would send a copy to me.

He said also he would be willing to produce a small series of "political" Cinderellas for me on "Victims of the Purges". I duly send off the Lenin stamps (offering to send more such in subsequent envelopes) and information on what I would like to have produced for myself.

I heard nothing back, although I had been receiving emails from him up to that point every few days. I emailed a few days later to ask if he was receiving my emails safely. Nothing. After a couple of weeks I emailed him to check whether the Lenin stamps had arrived. Again nothing.

I tried a couple more times to make contact but never received an answer. The Lenin stamps weren't worth anything and I never received the Trotsky Cinderella (alas) but I was puzzled. Friends with more savvy with the Net told me I had been "ghosted".

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If these complaints above are members here I want to hear about it. And DO add their names.

If not - no interest to anyone here.

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Someone posting as Panterra with an email address of inyotef [at] gmail.com who makes Cinderellas for Kemp Land, Ocussi-Ambeno(?) and Bizland and signs himself Bruce Hxxxxxxxn.

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Well Panterra has made 6 times more posts than you, and has been a member far longer than you.

Panterra also had never posted YOUR full email address and full name on a massive public forum, so that every Spam Bot Harvesters trawling such boards has captured it.

That is inexcusable, and your totally brainless and thoughtless post has now been edited, but the damage is done, even after 8 hours.

There are always 2 sides to all stories, and yours is just one. I am sure Panterra will respond here with the other. :idea:

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Sorry about this. Yes, I did receive the letter from 1ngram, and have his Trotsky stamps ready to send. Just been a bit otherwise occupied, but am sending off this week! 8)

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I think we need to honestly swap with each others. But sometime we will meet some bad person. So i like to swap cover in the most time.

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OK .. merged a few threads along the same lines into this single one, to keep all in the one place. :)

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If it's a member in good standing with a long posting history then please just wait before going to the nuclear option of naming with email address (and never give a member's email on a public forum, its completely unfair as Glen said).

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To be fair to the complainant, Glen did write:
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norvic wrote: But of course harvestable email addresses are a no-no.
They are not a no-no to me, if I choose to add them here - when warranted.

That Indian Divyanka con who scammed stamps from all over the planet - see posts earlier in this thread, WILL have their emails (she had many) posted here 105%, to alert others who might google search, if they are suspicious etc. No brainer.

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1ngram wrote:This happened to me the other month.

I duly send off the Lenin stamps (offering to send more such in subsequent envelopes)...

I tried a couple more times to make contact but never received an answer. The Lenin stamps weren't worth anything....
Happened to me too. Someone here (I don't want to mention his name) asked for Lenin stamps, I sent him my spare stamps including a MNH complete set and later, for several weeks, when I contacted him I received many opposing messages like "I sent you.." and few days later "I already packaged the stamps for you..." or "I am still looking for stamps for you..."

I didn't complain then since the stamps worth nothing but I think it is unfair.
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Eli - do **NOT** post vague anonymous nonsense like this here. :shock: :shock: :shock:

What if someone did that about YOU???????????

NAME the member here, or email me which of course was the sensible and polite way to have approached this, copy me in on EVERY alleged email, and do NOT waste the time of others on this. :twisted:

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I don't understand you! I responded to 1ngarm and said the same happened to me. I didn't mention name or date or any details. Really, I forgot about this story and only remembered when I read the above post. That's all.

Happy International Women's Day!!!

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Eli wrote:I don't understand you!
Yes you do.

And adding smart ar*e comments wishing me Happy Woman's Day do not improve my mood on a very busy evening.

In 4 keystrokes, I can block your access totally to seeing or posting forever in the Exchange Forum, if you want to be clever, and not READ what is asked of you. Then you will have no-one to obliquely whine about here re your allegedly missing landfill. :idea:

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Global Administrator wrote:
In 4 keystrokes, I can block your access totally to seeing or posting forever in the Exchange Forum, if you want to be clever, and not READ what is asked of you. Then you will have no-one to obliquely whine about here re your allegedly missing landfill. :idea:

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Please, don't hesitate to do it!!! Block me from this forum or any forum you think I "Whine". Its only 4 keystrokes. Thanks in advance.

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Done as requested. :!:

Now, back to normal programming please folks.
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