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I thought I would share with members a recent acquisition!
I consider myself very fortunate to secure some of these items :D

VINTAGE POSTCARD ALBUM ( made in Germany)

Containing postcards from the travels of the
Sloane family- United Kingdom 1890’s to 1920’s
Size: 12cm x 18cm
Provenance: Estate of the Sloane Pastoral Family of the Riverina.

The album and mostly mint postcards(100) are in very good condition
I will post the postcards 9 at a time when I have time.
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The background to this family is truly amazing-

From the port of Glasgow on the misty shores of Scotland to the dusty plains of Australia’s
Murray River region, the story of the Sloane family of the Riverina in many ways mirrors the
story of early white Australia itself. When two young brothers, Alexander and William Sloane
left their parent’s merchant trading business in Glasgow in 1849 for far-off Australia, little did
they know they would build a dynasty as one of Australia’s most notable pastoral families.

The brothers arrived in Victoria to the beginnings of the gold rush and quickly
realised their skills in numeracy and bartering were best utilised in buying and selling gold.
With their fortunes rising, Alexander set back to Scotland to marry his sweetheart, Annabella
Gibson, herself from a well-known Scottish family, (Annabella’s brother James Gibson
would go on to open up the Queensland & far north hinterland with the explorer William Landsborough).

Alexander & Annabella settled in Mulwala in 1862, the first white pastoral
family in the region to permanently live on their property.
The Sloane’s run at Mulwala and Savernake stretched from a 4 mile wide
frontage on the Murray River to 32 miles north into NSW.
William Sloane went on to establish William Sloane & Co one of Australia’s earliest
stock and station agencies, which was eventually subsumed by Elders Pastoral Co.


Alexander and Annabella went on to have 11 children, all of whom established themselves
as successful pastoralists and expanded the family empire. But it is the family’s interaction
with early parts of Australia’s history that has the most fascination. From evading and hiding
the family silver from the Kelly gang and Mad Dan Morgan the bush ranger to lobbying the
colony of NSW to remove border taxes and establish a railway link to the local townships,
the Sloane family found themselves involved in many historic moments.

The Sloanes attended the early Federation meetings in Corowa NSW
and were involved in the birth of Australia’s Federation, (the family still retains
the collected history of memorabilia to this day). They were close friends and neighbours
of early parliamentarian Mr William Hay, and the Sloanes also have one of Australia’s
earliest Merino stud registrations, which is still held in the family.

Of Annabella and Alexander’s children, Thomas Sloane became
a word renowned entomologist considered to be one of the pioneers in Australia’s
entomology field. William Sloane represented Australia overseas in the sport of shooting and
the aunts - Janet, Helen, Lucy, Lavinia and Maggie - all travelled the world bringing their
rich, diverse collections back to the vast family estate, Mulwala Homestead. While the
Sloane’s Mulwala Homestead is now owned by the Commonwealth of Australia, it is possible
to peek back in time from the diary entry of Jeanie Sloane, a daughter in law of Annabella
and Alexander. The Sloane Mulwala Homestead gardens were designed by Baron von Mueller,
the designer and first director of the Melbourne Botanic Gardens.

The story of the Sloanes of the Riverina stretches over three centuries and many
hundreds of thousands of acres. This is the first time the Sloane family have offered their
historic collection and their estate auction is a once in a lifetime chance to capture a piece of
early Australian history.


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Here are some postcards from the album !!!

I am guessing they are worth $5-10 each? :D

Not my area so I don't really know. Great provenance though!!
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01 May 2021 21:34
Here are some postcards from the album !!!

I am guessing they are worth $5-10 each? :D

Not my area so I don't really know. Great provenance though!!
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I don't know the Australian market and it's a while since the face-to-face UK market was active but,

Animated street scenes are much better than general views. Take a look here
https://postcard.co.uk/postcard_values.php
Topographical Price Guide

Here the value of a card is in direct proportion to its scarcity: city centre scenes can be worth pence, while village views, of which only a few copies were originally published by a local photographer, rate much more highly.

Anything from 10 or 20p for common (usually printed views) of well visited locations ie cathedrals, holiday resorts, to several pounds for village and town street scenes. Particularly well animated 'real photographic' views which may fetch £20.00 upwards.

In fact, 90% of postcards, no matter how old, fall into a price bracket ranging from pence to five pounds.Cards that sell cheaply include the categories of relatively modern issues, art reproductions, deckle-edged greetings cards, scenic views that have changed little and poorly printed comics.
Unless the Sloanes added anything significant to the backs of the cards I would suggest that those you have shown so far fall into the area of the second paragraph, I'm afraid.
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Hi Pampstamp. Great to see these. Is there anyway you could make the images bigger?

And don't forget, there is a board limit of a maximum of six images per post. Thanks. :)
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It seems they have a postcard of Windermere in with the Scotland ones - the only black & white one.
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A mod may need to change the thread heading to the correct splelling.
Sloane, not Sloan.

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Norvic is correct. My estimate on the value of the cards is 25c each, on a good day.

The value would be in Riverina cards of that era.

Looks like the Sloane,s have done a marketing campaign to get some return out of common material

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towradji wrote:
02 May 2021 09:32
Norvic is correct. My estimate on the value of the cards is 25c each, on a good day.
HAHAHAHA what a joke :roll: :roll: - the whole album for less than the cost of a supreme pizza!!

Show me another PC album anywhere, with this provenance and great condition near 125 years.

WOW the last of the great big spenders- we will see and time will tell !!

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Here are a few more for those interested!!
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An attractive historical record you have purchased but I am in the court of Norvic & towradji feeling that these would appeal only to a postcard collector of Scotland.

I am not certain that the Certificate of Authenticity does you any favours either. I would have expected more than "the item attached to this letter ......... is a genuine item"

My expectations would have been "date & place of auction, lot number & a description of the item" as a minimum. Perhaps you could go back & ask?

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PS Please keep showing the cards as I do find them attractive even though I am not in the market to buy them.
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Well if it is such a good item, maybe the OP can enlighten us on what he paid for this historic piece.

I see a lot of this material, it is 125 years old but very common.

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towradji wrote:
02 May 2021 22:37
Well if it is such a good item, maybe the OP can enlighten us on what he paid for this historic piece.

I see a lot of this material, it is 125 years old but very common.
It was never about the money!! I am NOT a dealer :roll:

Many of the cards have dates visited and other comments made by this family.

As I also, very much enjoy travelling, its amazing the amount of destinations the family went to in the early 1900s.

All inclusive it owes me $95 and contained 100 cards in the album and another 80 or so loose (which was a surprise).

So $0.53 each. The lot had NO reserve and at least 7 others were bidding. :D

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Here are a few more for those interested!!
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Pampstamp wrote:
01 May 2021 21:34
Here are some postcards from the album !!!

I am guessing they are worth $5-10 each? :D

Not my area so I don't really know. Great provenance though!!
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''I am guessing they are worth $5-10 each? :D

Not my area so I don't really know. Great provenance though!!''



Nope, 5c or 10c each in every dealer postcard box in the UK actually. As others have advised you.

You clearly have NO idea how many are out there. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Unused , mass-produced UK tourist view scenes are of near zero interest. I leave shoeboxes of them in my weekly junk boxes.

An obscure old Post office, historic Pub, general store, Military, early aviation, pacific natives, and so on are where the bucks are. Rare stamp and cancels and markings etc.

Lake Walla Walla Scotland at sunset is a yawn sadly, and many millions were sold, whether some pompous seller ''Certificate'' accompanies them - or not! '' Provenance'' my eye!

I sold this for $1000s as it had a major SG listed stamp plate var, exotic WW1 origin, exotic subject matter etc.


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However much they may or may not be worth it is good to see some pics. of Bonnie Scotland and hope it will encourage Members to visit this beautiful country! If the item gives you pleasure that is what is important.

I should think just about every native Scot has ancestors who emigrated (voluntarily or otherwise!) to Australia back in the day. My (lovely) wife included. I am still waiting for that solicitor's letter telling us about the enormous legacy from that sheep farmer relation with no other relatives! :D

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Auctions like these don’t often come around with iconic items this rare, so this is a historians and collector’s dream and the perfect opportunity to own a piece of Australia’s cultural heritage,” continued Mr. Lee Hames, Chief Operations Officer for Lloyds Auctions.
However nothing now visible at Lloyd’s showing what else there was or prices realised.
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A few more cards attached

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Thousands of historical treasures from pioneer Sloane family sell at auction


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-04/sloane-family-auction-of-farming-history/100100804


Since 1862, the Sloane family has called 50,000 acres of pastoral land in the Riverina home, making it one of Australia's oldest farming families.

Key points:

The Sloane family started farming near the NSW-Victorian border in 1862
Old maps and books from the family's collection sell at auction for more than $50,000
More than 2,000 items of pastoral memorabilia from the family go under the hammer

Last week, more than 2,000 historical treasures from the family's estate were sold at auction online.

From 100-year-old ceramics to one of the first maps of Queensland, the Sloane family estate is one of the largest and rarest collections of historical items from early Australian settlement to go under the hammer.

Amanda Benson, head of fine art and antiquities for Lloyds Auctions, said the auction was rare in its offerings.

"We are lucky to see a collection like this once every 10 years," she said.

"The auction was very successful and we have passed the history on to future generation and future collectors."

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bazza4338 wrote:
04 May 2021 17:58
Thousands of historical treasures from pioneer Sloane family sell at auction


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-04/sloane-family-auction-of-farming-history/100100804


Old maps and books from the family's collection sell at auction for more than $50,000
More than 2,000 items of pastoral memorabilia from the family go under the hammer

Last week, more than 2,000 historical treasures from the family's estate were sold at auction online.

"The auction was very successful and we have passed the history on to future generation and future collectors."

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The auction was completely unreserved and I can confirm the bidding was very robust!! :D

Everything was sold!!

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I won’t waste anymore members time or my time posting worthless
UK junkcards of the Sloane’s travels. :roll:

Below is an unopened Corowa Express Newspaper 3/9/26
& British Trader newspaper 15/8/26 for anyone interested!

I am tempted to open them :D

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Pampstamp wrote:
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I won’t waste anymore members time or my time posting worthless
UK junkcards of the Sloane’s travels. :roll:
The one of Taynult showing the close up of buildings could well be worth more than any of the others, apart from the military, & uncaptioned street scene with tram. All those are worth more than pennies, especially if two people wanted them.
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When you see what that hideous jug was worth anything is possible!

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OldDuffer1 wrote:
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When you see what that hideous jug was worth anything is possible!
HAHAHA some people just never get it!! Its NOT about the jug, its who made it!! :roll:

original pottery by Australia artist Merric Boyd, who was the father of esteemed Australian artists Arthur and David Boyd

And the way they are printing money these days in 5 years it will probably get 10 times what they paid :D

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Not quite my cup of tea but....
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Everyone to their own taste!

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Here are a few more items I secured in a mixed lot!!

The cover with 1d green KGV is LMW.
It has the listed flaw ACSC 78(3)d- Cut in left frame opposite Roo's neck

CV on cover is $100 with NO variety :D
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Nice find - Rod Perry would have appreciated it, even as an oversize cover; they are some of the best!
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Here are a few more different cards of the Sloane's travels !! :D
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Peebles is remarkably untouched:

Google Street View, Peebles, Scotland.
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Here is another item I acquired at the Sloane auction :D

Took a punt on this old Cigar box with a 1920 date-stamp!! Full of postcards from Italy-France!!

Looks like it was sent through the post from the Philippines! Anybody know anything about it?

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For anyone interested a few postcards from France!

The stamped postcard tells an interesting story :D

Also, twelve days before the assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand on 28/6/1914-
And 42 days from the start of WW1 (28/7/1914) ;)
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Some of the older French scenes might fetch a price. Have a look on Delcampe!

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Italy is my specialty. I'd like to see Italian postcards at your convenience.

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Pampstamp,

Wouldn't these posts have more impact and be informative, notwithstanding the visual impact, if you appended a brief description of the location and subject matter? The text embedded in the images is not always easily read or visible. Increasing screen size to view them is somewhat disruptive.

I do enjoy viewing these historical images.
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Pampstamp wrote:
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For anyone interested a few postcards from France!

The stamped postcard tells an interesting story :D
Interesting story - right way up
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The Sloane's sure did travel!!

Apologies for not posting as recommended by some members. Its due to my long working hours at the moment :?

I have so many cards from many countries- this will take time!

Some more French cards :D
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"Visited tomb 4th October 1913"
"Visited tomb 4th October 1913"
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norvic wrote:
10 May 2021 19:20
Pampstamp wrote:
09 May 2021 23:48
For anyone interested a few postcards from France!

The stamped postcard tells an interesting story :D
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Above card is from Switzerland franked with a 10 Rappen HELVETIA stamp!

Vevey is a town in Switzerland in the canton of Vaud, on the north shore of Lake Geneva, near Lausanne. The German name Vivis is no longer commonly used.

Peter :D

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CHzug1291 wrote:
10 May 2021 22:31
norvic wrote:
10 May 2021 19:20
Pampstamp wrote:
09 May 2021 23:48
For anyone interested a few postcards from France!

The stamped postcard tells an interesting story :D
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Above card is from Switzerland franked with a 10 Rappen HELVETIA stamp!

Vevey is a town in Switzerland in the canton of Vaud, on the north shore of Lake Geneva, near Lausanne. The German name Vivis is no longer commonly used.

Peter :D
Cheers Peter

Stand Corrected!! It was with all the French cards!! :shock: still I should have noticed!

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A few more from France!
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Note at back- "Called here 28th Sep 1913
Note at back- "Called here 28th Sep 1913
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"Passed this road 23rd Jan 1914 from Monte Carlo"
"Passed this road 23rd Jan 1914 from Monte Carlo"
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Captions as you did with some of these are still useful on the ones without messages.

Google (and other search engines) find them much easier if there is some text - simply repeating the caption on the front, or back, of the postcard is sufficient.
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Found these nice postcards for anyone interested in The Royal Mint

The Sloane's visited in June 1912!!
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The Royal Mint - the Museum
The Royal Mint - the Museum
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The Royal Mint - The Chancellor Balance
The Royal Mint - The Chancellor Balance
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The Royal Mint - Gold and Silver Melting House
The Royal Mint - Gold and Silver Melting House

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On the 22nd anniversary I thought I would add this bit of trivia :D

Worst deal in UK history? 7th May 1999- 22 years since Brown sold Britain’s gold!

Dubbed ‘Brown’s Bottom’, the sale of half of the UK’s gold reserves 401 tonnes (56%)between 1999 and 2002 by then-Chancellor Gordon Brown is considered a particular low point in British history.

The advice from the Bank of England was not to sell and Britain has not bought or sold gold since!

I guessed they followed the Aussies! In November 1997 the then Treasurer, Peter Costello, shocked some people when he announced he'd signed off on the sale of 60% of Australian bullion.

Costello to smart for his own boots!!! Utterly incompetent, should never had authority to do that.

Three years after Australia's Government sold off nearly two thirds of the nation's bullion, along with the British- China made a startling admission. Over six years it had quietly bought 654 tonnes of gold !!

The RBA's holdings amount to 80 tonnes, The RBA's position in gold has not changed since 1997.

Unbelievable still held in the UK bank of England! The UK regulator has not allowed Australia to carry out a proper audit of its bullion holdings

https://www.rba.gov.au/qa/gold-holding.html

https://www.rt.com/business/451736-australian-gold-reserves-ronan-manly/

NEVER trust politicians!! What a DISGRACE!



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The Royal Mint- Gold and Silver Rolling Room
The Royal Mint- Gold and Silver Rolling Room
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The Royal Mint- Cutting & Weighing Room
The Royal Mint- Cutting & Weighing Room
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The Royal Mint- Medal and Press Room
The Royal Mint- Medal and Press Room
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Found this amongst the Sloane cards. Something I haven't seen for a long time!!

Fantastic mint condition for its age.

The KGV 1d, I vaguely recall having seen one somewhere- !!
Anyone know anything about it?
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Phantom Falls - Victoria
Phantom Falls - Victoria

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Here are a few more from Italy for those interested!!

The Sloane's sure did get around!!
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Venice 1908 (top)
Venice 1908 (top)
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Thanks

I like the Venezia - Milano (Venice to Milan TPO) postmark. Not rare, but certainly interesting.

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Pampstamp wrote:
11 May 2021 21:40
On the 22nd anniversary I thought I would add this bit of trivia :D

Worst deal in UK history? 7th May 1999- 22 years since Brown sold Britain’s gold!

Dubbed ‘Brown’s Bottom’, the sale of half of the UK’s gold reserves 401 tonnes (56%)between 1999 and 2002 by then-Chancellor Gordon Brown is considered a particular low point in British history.

The advice from the Bank of England was not to sell and Britain has not bought or sold gold since!

I guessed they followed the Aussies! In November 1997 the then Treasurer, Peter Costello, shocked some people when he announced he'd signed off on the sale of 60% of Australian bullion.

Costello to smart for his own boots!!! Utterly incompetent, should never had authority to do that.

Three years after Australia's Government sold off nearly two thirds of the nation's bullion, along with the British- China made a startling admission. Over six years it had quietly bought 654 tonnes of gold !!

The RBA's holdings amount to 80 tonnes, The RBA's position in gold has not changed since 1997.

Unbelievable still held in the UK bank of England! The UK regulator has not allowed Australia to carry out a proper audit of its bullion holdings

https://www.rba.gov.au/qa/gold-holding.html

https://www.rt.com/business/451736-australian-gold-reserves-ronan-manly/

NEVER trust politicians!! What a DISGRACE!
Yes, and apparently the price was at an all time historic low! And yet Brown is still wheeled out as this great financial guru!
Grrrr! :evil:

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OldDuffer1 wrote:
14 May 2021 22:45
Pampstamp wrote:
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Worst deal in UK history? 7th May 1999- 22 years since Brown sold Britain’s gold!


NEVER trust politicians!! What a DISGRACE!
Yes, and apparently the price was at an all time historic low! And yet Brown is still wheeled out as this great financial guru!
Grrrr! :evil:
I agree with you! We have our own guru in Costello. :roll:

NO politician should have the authority to sell the countries "jewels". Just for a quick buck!!

The Chinese and Russians are laughing there a**es off!! :lol:

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A few more Italian postcards !!
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Amazing and beautiful collection, thank you so much for sharing. Made the breakfast coffee and muffin a very pleasurable time this morning.

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ejansen2k wrote:
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Amazing and beautiful collection, thank you so much for sharing. Made the breakfast coffee and muffin a very pleasurable time this morning.
Cheers
Its nice to know some members are enjoying them as much as I am!! :D

There are many cards in the Sloane's travels, from Germany and the Netherlands to Egypt.

Please let me know if you want me to continue posting there travels.

All cards have been collected at places they have actually visited. Amazing considering the time :D
A truly wealthy family in more ways than one!!

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