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SG 328 - Die 1A - Postmarked June 28 1911, within the first week of issue! I believe BROADWAY is the place of use, not sure of the letters at the bottom? (WDRC)

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And to wrap it up today, the new "Pillar of the Community" in my Downey Head collection!

SG 327:

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I hope the collections are looking as good as ever and you are all doing Great!

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Regarding my request for the Scott numbers and the corresponding Gibbon numbers, I put this list together (using a 2009 Scott Specialized catalog and a 1988 Gibbons Concise catalog):

Scott Gibbons
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151 - 322
151c - 323

152 - 329
152d - 328
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151d - 325
151f - 324
151g - 326

152g - 329
152h - 330
152j - 331
152k - 332
152L - 333
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153 - 340
153b - 339
153c - 338

154 - 342
154b - 343
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155 - 334/5
156 - 336

157 - 344
158 - 345
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158A - 347
158Ad - 346

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I am very happy today as a new ringer joined the team.  :)

This is a Die 1B Downey Head with a Crown Watermark, SG329 (N8) with a Type 24 "CANCELLED" overprint. 8-)

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Stamps overprinted "Specimen" or "Cancelled" were made for many purposes, such as for official record copies, trial printings and on coil stamps and booklet panes. It was also the practice to preserve sheets or blocks of six of printings which varied in shade from their predecessors to serve as colour standards for matching future printings. Type 24 that I have shown was almost exclusively used for colour standards. My stamp is what I would consider a deep/bright shade, so I'll have to work on figuring it out, with confirmation, and it will be a very useful reference for me!

I also wonder why there is no CV listed for these, I figure they should have a pretty good handle on how many are out there by now?

Have to wrap it up, a couple thing to do before I head down the road for another day at work.... :roll:

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Hi again, :D

Does that 'CANCELLED' look slightly doubled to anyone else?

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That is great Glen!! I love it and I have never seen it before! 8) :) 8) 8)

Thanks for popping it up onto this thread!!

A question for you, what is the source for the article and caricature?? I would be very happy to add this to my collection, and would appreciate you letting me know where to find it (or how much that one is? :wink: )

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Hi folks, it's been a while for me on this thread, apologize for the brief pause! :wink: :)

Here is something that I recently put together, found the ½d. Downey that matches my 1d. Hooded Postmark Pair!! Too bad it isn't still on-cover, but I am very happy none-the-less!!

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and while we are on the 'matching' topic (and I have posted a green stamp anyways).....

I also was able to pick up this pillar block of the ½d. Die 1 to match my 1d. pillars!

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I just realized that there are over 2000 views on this thread!! That is smokin'!! 8) 8) :)

Thanks to everyone that has checked out this thread and all the folks that have contributed!



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skilo54 wrote:That is great Glen!! I love it and I have never seen it before! 8) :) 8) 8)

Thanks for popping it up onto this thread!!

A question for you, what is the source for the article and caricature?? I would be very happy to add this to my collection, and would appreciate you letting me know where to find it (or how much that one is? :wink: )

Skilo if you click the link I added, you'd have your answer. :)

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Errrrr, yeah, right!

Thanks for the reminder on how those link things work...... 16 hour days must be getting the better of me! Geesh! :oops: :P :roll: :lol:

I think a case of "can`t see the forest for the trees"

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I didn't want to start a new thread just for this, but here is the latest incarnation of the Downey head:

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Sold to Skilo54!! Maybe I can get some of these used when I pick up the new CBP from you Norvic? Any chance that could work? 8)

Thanks for posting that, and yes I am serious about the cover too! :D :wink:

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skilo54 wrote:SG 328 - Die 1A - Postmarked June 28 1911, within the first week of issue! I believe BROADWAY is the place of use, not sure of the letters at the bottom? (WDRC)

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Ahoj Skilo!

Just tidying up a loose end. With your interest in the GB postmark database I am sure you have worked out that the letters at the bottom of the postmark are WORC (the county of Worcestershire).

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Hi Honza!

Thanks for the information and tying up a loose end, I appreciate it! I have just finished putting into pages 200+ GB QV covers/pieces with many barred numerals/squared circles etc. so you may see me over on the Postmark Database thread before too long! I am trying to put together ones that tallanent does not have images for as of yet, so it could be a while... :wink: :D

Here is a collage I put together of some of the more interesting 1d. Downey Head postcards, I use this as my desktop and it is absolutely KILLER!! 8) :lol: :D

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Here is another Downey Head Collage I have prepared, love these so thought I'd share another with y'all! 8) :wink: :)

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Now that I purchased those optima sheets from Glen I was able to organize my 1d. Downey Heads a bit better. Below is a link to a video I made of my collection as it sat a few hours ago and uploaded to Youtube.

It is a bit fuzzy at points, but I hope you all enjoy the view regardless!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l06QMGidwPk&feature=colike

Thanks for popping in and having a gander!

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Hello folks,

I have been working far too much lately and finally have a few days off over this weekend to relax a bit and catch up with my stamps. A perfect way to spend the Thanksgiving Holiday Weekend, and the weather is absolutely wonderful over here! 25°C and not a cloud in the sky! The folks that run the Erin Fall Fair will be thrilled with this, and hopefully the gate proceeds are up from the past few years!!

Here is a nice PC I picked up recently, some fantastic markings on a wonderful Die2 1d. Downey Head!

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I have some work ahead of me......... 8) :D :wink:

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My first bundleware and I am so flippin' excited about it! First impressions are excellent (seems like a majority are CDS) and I have already identified 4 more Aniline! I am so glad I picked up a couple UV lights a while back! They have more than paid for themselves already! :wink:

Next tool to arrive is this unit, and I am hoping it can help speed up my Inspekting time along with easing the strain of looking through a loupe for hours at a time. Here is hoping anyways!

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My first of hopefully many bottom rows! :D

1d Carmine die 1B crown watermark. A fine mint complete bottom row (A11 close) perf type 2 with plate 2 marking and "reversed 4" below 20/12. Faults

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Hope you are all well, and your own collections are looking as wonderful as ever!!
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Skilo54

Here is a postcard with a solo 1/2 pence Downey on it.

It is a perf 15 x 14 but I am unable to see the watermark and don't know about the dies but thought it may be of interest to you?

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Hi there Rackrunner, :D

Thanks for posting that nice postcard, looks like a Die2, probably crown watermark based on the date. You may have luck 'seeing' the watermark impression by tilting the card slightly in the beam of a desk lamp, sometimes you get lucky and it is easily seen. Regardless, I would be very happy to include this in my collection of ½d. Downey Heads. I will send you an email through the boards in the next day or two once I have a day off to check some of your other posts to see what you collect :D , and we can continue the conversation about the details. :)

What is really cool is the fact you are in Cambridge, I am just down the road from you! 8) :D

And what is a post without a little Downey Head magic! The following two being printed with Aniline Ink. 8) :D

SG 332/ N9(4) Die 1B inverted crown watermark:

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SG 341/ N11(5) Die 2 crown watermark:

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Here is a nice SG 321/ N1 Day of Issue on piece:

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And to wrap it up, some Triangular postmarks on some more ½d's:

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Maybe we should drop the "1d" from the title of this thread and include the ½d's into the mix......?

I hope you are all well, and the collections are looking as Fantastic as ever!! 8) :D

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I am back with some more wonderful 1d. Downey Heads! Here are a couple varieties I have added to my collection.

First an offset printing: SG341

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Next a Perforation Error on a nice pair: SG341

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Thanks for having a look, :)

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A day off for me here at The Mothership, so I have had the chance to do some work scanning, organizing and a bit of writing up my Downey Head collection. I'd like to share with you all a collage I whipped up using Google Picasa of my mint 1d. Downey Heads.

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Some Downey Heads for you skilo....
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I finally picked up a D.O.I. 1d. Downey Head - SG (N7) 328, here it is:

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I saw this one on Delcampe a year or so back, but decided not to buy it then. I regretted that decision and was very happy when I found it listed once again!

I hope you are all well and your collections are looking as good as ever!

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Here is a better scan of the new addition to my 1d. Downey Head collection:

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I'd also like to thank Asmodeus for the lovely controls! They made it safely to my home and are now hanging out with their friends!

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Hey folks, :)

Here is a page from my collection, these are mint SG 341 1d. Downey Head controls. A few of the ones I was fortunate enough to grab off Asmodeus are now included. They are being well taken care of my friend! :)

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The bottom three blocks all have the star shaped plate flaw just behind the lions mane. Here is a borrowed snippet of information along with some USB microscope captures of the ones in my collection:

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I am still learning to use the USB microscope properly, and hope that with time I am able to dial in the captures a bit better. I also hope SG starts listing this one soon, and it gets a humungo CV! :lol: 8) :lol:

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Here is a Downey Head Die 1b plate proof in Carmine on Chalk Surfaced paper, no watermark with gum, unmounted mint. Picked it up as a birthday gift to myself. 8) :P :twisted: :D

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Hi Skilo54, I have just spent a very pleasant few hours reading your very interesting thread. I had read part of it quite a while ago and was able to determine that my two 1d Downey Heads were in fact Die 11 but I didn't really look further into them...well there is only two!

I managed to get another in an album I bought...hence back to this thread to work out a few more things.

This new stamp was also a Die 11 with a crown watermark, one of the others has the GVR watermark and the other...well, I can't find one at all so I'm not sure if that is common or not.

I have two questions.

1st: two stamps have the 15 x 14 perfs but my new one has 14 3/4 x 14 perfs. I did see it briefly mentioned earlier in the thread but not a lot was said. Is it very uncommon and is it worth more because of the perforation difference?

2nd: I'm having a lot of trouble determining if this (in the lower pic) is the star behind the lions mane. It just doesn't seem to stand out from the mane enough but is roughly shaped like star. Clarification would be great thanks. By the way, all three stamps have nearly the same mark.

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Hi again, just as a side note. This joined pair of 1/2d green stamps were also in the album I bought. The perfs on them are 14 3/4. 14. 15 and 14.

Anything special about that or did that sort of thing happen regularly?

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Would these have been used as revenue stamps with the writing across them?

They have also come up very dark in the scan. No where near that dark green.

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Hi there Hutch, glad you enjoyed the Downey Head thread and were able to figure the ID's of your 1d. Downey Heads!

Congratulations on your new acquisition, I am happy to hear there were some new Downey Heads for you to enjoy. I would be interested to have a look at the back of the new 1d. you are having difficulty seeing the watermark on, please add a scan of it if you can, that would be great.

To answer you question about the perfs, I wouldn't think the 14¾ is anything too unusual, after all, what is a quarter perf between friends? :P If you find a 14x14 you will have something special and I would recommend that you immediately send it to me! :lol: 8)

The stamp you have scanned doesn't show the star behind the lion's mane IMHO, they are fairly consistent in terms of shape/size. I have circled on your scan the feature I find most interesting, a little red dot that is very cool! 8)

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Something interesting and I would make note of it if it were in my collection. These dots show up now and then are are all over the place in the central vignette, over the head, behind the ear, next to the point on the neck.......

I collect them specifically and always check incoming items for these type of flyspecks. Let me know if you want to upgrade that copy to a CDS stunner and we can maybe do a trade or something?

Thanks for the kind words and thinking to add to this thread! I truly appreciate it and always get excited when I see an email notification that someone has posted in here!

Have a good one, :D

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Well this has been a long time coming, but here is a bit of a tutorial I have prepared to try and help folks identify the ½d. Downey Heads in their collections. I hope some of you find it helpful and look forward to hopefully seeing some scans of some nice Downey Heads from you all!

Without further adieu, how to ID the ½d. Downey Head, please enjoy:

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The ½d. Downey Head is another issue that can seem confusing to work with at first, but with a little bit of information the task of ID'ing them becomes much more manageable. You will now be familiar with the 3 different watermarks associted with the Downey Head issues. They are the Crown, Simple Cypher and Multiple Cypher Watermarks. Below are some images to help you remember the 3 different types:

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Within the ½d. Downey Heads there are 6 Major types. Each one has its own unique characteristic making them a bit easier to deal with in comparison to the 1d. value. The fact that there are only 6 of them helps too.

½d. Downey Heads - 6 Major Types

SG# 321 - N1 - Die 1A WMK Crown
SG# 324 - N2 - Die 1B WMK Crown
SG# 334 - N3 - Die 1B WMK Simple Cypher - Booklets only
SG# 338 - N4 - Die 2 WMK Crown
SG# 344 - N5 - Die 2 WMK Simple Cypher
SG# 346 - N6 - Die 2 WMK Multiple Cypher

Let's begin by doing what I would do first when sorting a large lot of ½d. Downey Heads.....figuring out whether they are Die 1 or Die 2. Once this is determined we can refine our two piles from there, sound good?

The very first thing to become familiar with is the Kings Beard. In a Die 1 stamp the beard is very undefined, almost a solid looking blob of green in heavier printings. This was refined substantially on the Die 2 stamps where the beard is well defined. Below is a Die 1 stamp next to a Die 2 stamp to illustrate the difference I am referring to:

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See the difference in the beards? I think this is a great way to begin working out you ½d. Downey Heads. Another difference in the two has to deal with the ornament above 'P' of HALFPENNY. Below are two images to explain the differences between this design element on the Die 1 and Die 2 ½d. Downey Head stamps:

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So now we are rocking!! 8) You should be able to now look at 2 distinct piles of ½d. Downey Heads on your Stamp Desk without the need to get too crazy with magnifying glasses or USB Microscopes.

Have a good one, :sunny:

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Put those Die 2's off to the side for a second or two, we have some Die 1 action to discuss. :P

Within the Die 1's there are three different issues, but don't get too freaked out, we will have it nailed in a few minutes. First let's figure out whether your stamp is a Die 1A or Die 1B, then we can go from there.

The differences between Die 1A and Die 1B aren't as simple as determining the difference between Die 1 and Die 2's. You will have to get in a bit closer and familiarize yourself with two key design elements in order to properly determine which one you have in your own collection.

The first area to look at and get familiar with is the right hand Dolphin, and the scales on its body. Below are two comparative images I have prepared to illustrate the differences, I hope they are clear enough for you all:

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You will notice that in the descriptions I have mentioned a centre jewel? This is the other area to look at to determine if it is a Die 1A or Die 1B stamp. Again I have prepared Images to illustrate the differences:

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So now we should be able to properly ID our first main type of ½d. Downey Head, the first one issued on June 22 1911, a Die 1A SG 321 (N1). There was only one release of the Die 1A's Watermarked Crown.

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SG# 321 - N1 Die 1A WMK Crown

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So we can now cross Die 1A ~ SG 321 off the list of 6. The next two are relatively easy to identify as the Watermark is the key to determining the difference between the Die 1B stamps. SG 324 has a Crown Watermark and SG 334 has the Simple Cypher Watermark.

SG 324 (N2) WMK Crown - Die 1B -

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SG 334 (N3) WMK Simple Cypher - Die 1B - (apparently I have misplace my mint N3's.. :oops:

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These ½d. Downey Heads were released in booklets only, so the usual booklet perfs and centering is another quick visual thing to look for when trying to ID these. Another thing to keep in mind when checking the watermarks, Crown watermarks are usually very strong and can be easily seen, whereas the Simple Cypher watermark can sometimes be faint and hard to see. If you are having a hard time determining the watermark on a Die 1B ½d. Downey Head, chances are it is a Simple Cypher. That is just my own observation from the Downey Heads I have studied, may not hold true for yours?

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The remaining 3 issues are all Die 2's. You will need t check the watermark to properly identify your Die 2 ½d. Downey Head, and this can be difficult on used stamps. The key two features again for determining a Die 2 ½d. Downey Head is the well defined beard and the thick line on the ornament.
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The first of the Die 2's is SG 338 (N4) Die 2 - WMK Crown - released January 1 1912

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SG 344 (N5) - Die 2 - WMK Simple Cypher
Released August 1912

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SG 346 (N6) - Die 2 - WMK Multiple Cypher
Released October 1912

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Good Luck with your own Downey Heads, and I look forward to seeing some discoveries sometime soon! :D

Have a good one, :sunny:

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Hi Skilo54, That was a very quick tutorial and easier than counting the lines under the King's head as I did to find out what mine were!

From point of neck to frame...3 lines are Die 2, 4 lines are Die 1. The beard is much easier :D

Now, back to the 1d. Here is a scan of the one I can't see the watermark. Would it help if I soaked it to get off what looks like very thin paper remnant? I have tried using the fluid and still couldn't see anything!

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Hi again Skilo54. I have another question if you don't mind.

All 3 of my 1d stamps are very different color wise! I have NO idea how to tell if they are a specific color or what! I am getting a new UV light box some time next week and will have a look at them in it. Is there anything specific I should look for to determine exactly what shade they are?

If I can get a decent scan would you like one with all 3 together to have a look?

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Back again, thanks for all your help so far. This has all been very interesting.

I'm going to post them anyway! I also noticed, once I had them scanned, that the area between the tail of the lion and the second "1" value is different in all three. (second scan) Is this due to over/under inking or different printings or just a normal occurrence?

I'm starting to notice a lot of little things I hadn't seen before! Even in the second stamp, the King's hair is much thicker (which makes me think over inking!) I also notice in the second stamp, a perfin...presumably a letter I. Any idea what that would be for?

Aren't you glad I only have 3 of them. There's enough questions already! Imagine if I had more.....


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Hi skilo54, I have two things for you to have a look at!

First is a new purchase of the 1d. Probably could have been a little better centred but I'm happy to finally have my first Die 1.

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The second thing, I'm having trouble working out the Die 1A and Die 1B in the 1/2d green.
In the crown you said it looked like either a comma or a crescent. Well mine look nothing remotely like that!

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Hope you can make something out of that. I sure can't. How do you get such great pictures?

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Hi there Hutch, :D

Thanks for taking the time to scan those images and post them here on the Downey Head thread! I have to apologize for the delay in getting back to you, work has absorbed most of my time lately and my forum time has suffered a bit.

i) You first stamp with the difficult watermark would definitely benefit from a quick dip in the pool, and I am willing to bet the watermark will become visible enough to determine its identity. I am thinking it will be a simple cypher, but please post some 'after' scans if you get around to washing it. :D

ii) Shades are tough, but with time and exposure to the differences you will begin to recognize them (at least the major types). Used stamps are not the tool to use to try and get an understanding of this IMHO. Mint stamps are what should be used to create a personal database of the shades. I have also taken the relevant red swatches out of my SG colour key and have them displayed on on of the vario sheets in my 1d. Downey Head collection.

iii) The area behind the Lion's tail is a perfect place to see how varying pressure and ink affects the overall print quality of the stamps. You also mentioned the King's hair, which is also another place to see the affect of pressure/inks.

iv) Nice Die 1A Hutch! Looks like a nice copy! Don't worry about the centering, these are tough to get well centered. Can you post a full scan of the ½d. for us? My scans are always done at 1200 and are individually cropped and scanned using my scanner software. 1200 allows for zooming in without the resolution break-up that occurs with lesser dpi values and will allow us to get in a little closer to have a look!

Thanks again for adding to the thread Hutch, I look forward to our continued discussion of the wonderful Downey Head stamps!

Just a quick note to Glen & The Mods asking for the '1d' to be removed from the thread title? Is that at all possible or would it screw things up too much?

Anyways, have a good one and I hope all of your collections are looking as good as ever!

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Hi Skilo54, now I'm sorry about the late reply ! :(

Here's a scan of one of my 1/2d greens. I did the scan at 1200dpi as you suggested. I also did a close up (?) of the jewel. A bit clearer I think. I'm also going to do the other ones just in case you would like a scan of them as well!

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Something I saw the other day on fleaBay, Post Office Savings Bank stamps with the KGV bust medallion. So in your hunt for Downey Head material, keep in mind it might not be only on postage stamps. 8)

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Here's the other scans. Thought it might be easier if you saw them all at once.

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and the joined pair

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I tried to get the colors a bit more like the stamps but I'm obviously not very good at that.
You can see, that in all the stamps I've shown, the 'comma' or 'crescent' is not very well defined! It's more like a hole? Got no idea so any input from you will be greatly appreciated!

Nice find aethelwulf, I suppose I should have realised that there would be more than just postage stamps out there. Stands to reason that any "official" type stamps would have the current ruler on it! They are very impressive looking 'stamps' too!

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aethelwulf wrote:Something I saw the other day on fleaBay, Post Office Savings Bank stamps with the KGV bust medallion. So in your hunt for Downey Head material, keep in mind it might not be only on postage stamps. 8)

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Errrr, thanks. That was a solid contribution to the thread. :? :roll:

I appreciate the screencaptures and no link to the sale, really helpful and super handy!

Thanks for coming out, :lol:

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Hi there Hutch,

A great job with those scans, they turned out really well!

All of your ½d/ Downey Heads are Die2's, that is the reason why the jewel in the crown doesn't look like either the Die1A or Die1B.


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Have a good one, :D

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:oops: sorry. Should have realised you were talking about the Die 1.

I was just excited about finding some new "things".

Thanks for putting me right Skilo54. I'll be more careful in future!

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