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1935 KGV Silver Jubilee Stamp Omnibus Variety Tracker Thread

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The more I learn about the series, the more I'm learning there's a question to just how many errors/varieties truly exist. Which ones are constant, and which ones are one offs? Perhaps this could be the official StampBoards reference for questions and answers. Post confirmed varieties, one you have a question about, whatever you can find :)

So far I have found one excellent resources:

https://www.philatel2.com/jubilee/
Lists numerous plate errors, varieties, history of the series, etc

I will start with one of my confirmed varieties. The picture of this particular variety appears to be listed in the SG KGV Catalogue, but not SG Part One.

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Falkland Islands 2½d SG 141 (1), Re-entry to tablet table and frame. 2008 Catalogue value £200.

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And now for my first question of this thread.

The below stamp is Seychelles SG 130. Does it have the lightening conductor or staff on right hand turret varieties?

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Hi,

The S.G. British Commonwealth catalogue shows all the varieties you want at the beginning of the books, and also at the end, after Zimbabwe. One of the copies of the varities:

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Thanks clemo. I know what they look like on a quick reference, but since I'm inexperienced, I'm trying to double check any I think might have a variety. My visual processing also isn't the best.

Also, I was thinking this thread could be used to keep track of possible unlisted, ongoing varieties. There are some that appear to be well known, but not listed in Gibbons yet.
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As an example of why EVERYONE should own a recent SG Part 1 is this error below.

I sold one a recent SG to a member here, and soon after, he emailed me this Mauritius 1935 stamp image below, SG 248H - cat £500.

At first glance on the small stamp sized image I assumed he was day-dreaming that such a really tiny fly speck would be listed in SG.

He was right and I was wrong, and he is now a few $100 wealthier after I sent him a cheque. :lol:
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Haven't found an error that obvious yet, Glen, but I will keep searching this collection! Has clemo upgraded?

I think the Seychelles stamp has the lightening conductor (though I'll wait for another opinion). I'm guessing the turret is another of those hairline errors.
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Hi there,

I think it will be useful to have a thread on these issues too.

There are lots of varieties constant and otherwise and some of these will creep into Stanley Gibbons so better to identify them now!

I will scan some of mine shortly.

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Sounds great, Lundy. That's the spirit of this thread!

The below is a confirmed variety. British Guiana SG 302, diagonal line by turret. And, like Glen said previously, this is where having a recent SG Part One is vital. I now know a £1.50 stamp is actually worth £110.

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The Seychelles stamp above is not the lightening conductor variety. I now know the line is too light and somewhat too high. I will see if they've appeared on any stamp.

Here is Hong Kong SG 135. Long line coming down from the "G" in "HONG." This appears to be a variety on some other stamps that were printed by Bradbury, which I know from http://www.philatel2.com/jubilee/id337_b2.htm.

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Just thought I'd add this site:

http://www.silverjubileestamps.com/

I'll have to see if I still have any varieties in my stock that I can add here.
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Here are a few more varieties.

Bahamas SG 141h - Dot by Flagstaff

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Mauritius SG 248h - Dot by Flagstaff

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Antigua SG 93a - Dot to the Left of the Chapel

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Somaliland Protectorate SG 86m - Bird by Turret

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British Guiana SG 302f, Dash by Turret variety.

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Papua New Guinea SG 150a, "Accent" Flaw

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I've buggered the above image so much I thought I would post the original, and be done with it.

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I have just found this in my Jubilees. The arch on the chapel is missing. I cannot recall ever seeing, or hearing of such a flaw? Has anyone else?

Still can't get the #[at]*$^ thing enlarged with clarity!!

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The two below, Nth Rhodesia and KUT must be classed as a constant, because both appear to have someone standing atop the Brunswick tower. If I have two. There must be others.

I'm not going to attempt to enlarge the images..this time..I'm still working on it!


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Malta has a drop line from the top of the frame, through the 'L' and into the castle.

Grenada has a diaginal stroke where the left side of the Brunswich tower, joins the castle wall.

I hope the above can be of help.


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Here is the Hong Kong set (SG#133-6, SC#147-50) that I just picked up with a couple items to look at more closely........

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With some serious streaks.......are these just wiper/doctor blade streaks?
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It could just be my eyes, but the top of the turret seems to be different than other Silver Jubilee's I've looked at.
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I am seeing the same doubling in the engraving around the left value tablet as shown above by luvthecmonwealth
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And also the streaks again.....
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John . . yes the 5c look like a nice transient "Doctor Blade" flaw.

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These probably do not have plate flaws, but was scanning them for stock, so added them here for fun. :mrgreen:

Have never seen blocks of 4, on matched Registered covers - and these are not FDC which is the odd part!!

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I got a similar line on my Hong Kong stamp that John does. Quite interested with how this thread is going :D
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My great-grandfather's collection has a good number of the 1935 silver jubilee stamps spread between the different country sections. I optimistically felt sure (just from the various other good but unlabelled finds there are) that at least one would be a special plate variety. It's taken a while of searching, but yesterday, while browsing through the photos I've taken, I noticed this one. Annoying about the couple of rust spots but I don't think science has yet found a good way of getting rid of them?

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Found another ... Mauritius 12c with diagonal line by tower ...

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marco76uk wrote:My great-grandfather's collection has a good number of the 1935 silver jubilee stamps spread between the different country sections. I optimistically felt sure (just from the various other good but unlabelled finds there are) that at least one would be a special plate variety. It's taken a while of searching, but yesterday, while browsing through the photos I've taken, I noticed this one. Annoying about the couple of rust spots but I don't think science has yet found a good way of getting rid of them?

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Hi marco76uk,

Looks like the stamp has foxing on it. Try boiling some water in a kettle, place the boiling water into a bowl, and then dip the stamp in for about a minute. That will help clean it up and make it look a lot better. Since it's used, you have no gum to worry about!
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Here is a Cayman Islands 6d. with a flaw (and some extraneous lines) in the 6:

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Doug:

There also appears to be an unusual line over the turret.....could be my eyes and the way this scanned, but look at it again........

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luvthecmonwealth wrote:

".....Here is Hong Kong SG 135. Long line coming down from the "G" in "HONG." This appears to be a variety on some other stamps that were printed by Bradbury, which I know from https://www.philatel2.com/jubilee/id337_b2.htm......
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Here is a similar Hong Kong Jubilee #135, a long blue thread running from the top of the stamp straight down to the "T" in Postage, except in my case, it runs through the "N" in Hong, not the "G".

The line shows up best where it passes over the "I" in Windsor; what in the world could account for such a long, perfectly-straight line in the 0.1mm (or less) range?

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Just to confuse me- this Barbados 'dot by flagstaff' (lower right stamp) has decided to move around a bit :lol:

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Any ideas? I don't believe it matches any on the website linked to above.

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Hi Mike,

Going to venture it's an area of overinking. I think it's too high and far to be the "dot by flagstaff" constant variety. I think one of mine (not Barbados) has one like that.
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doug2222usa wrote:luvthecmonwealth wrote:

".....Here is Hong Kong SG 135. Long line coming down from the "G" in "HONG." This appears to be a variety on some other stamps that were printed by Bradbury, which I know from https://www.philatel2.com/jubilee/id337_b2.htm......
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Here is a similar Hong Kong Jubilee #135, a long blue thread running from the top of the stamp straight down to the "T" in Postage, except in my case, it runs through the "N" in Hong, not the "G".

The line shows up best where it passes over the "I" in Windsor; what in the world could account for such a long, perfectly-straight line in the 0.1mm (or less) range?

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I think it's known as a "wiper blade" flaw.
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Here's another one of the odd balls; my 'balloon string' flaw, on the Hong Kong 20c value:
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The 'short extra flagstaff' variety on the Hong Kong 5c, with the added bonus of a 'U.S. Seapost S. S. Presidents line' part cancellation:
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The 'extra flagstaff' variety on the Hong Kong 5c (top left stamp):
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Haye-Smyth, see my post (in this thread) of September 7, 2011, which shows a similar balloon-string printing.

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Falklands SG139d Flagstaff on right hand turret MUH

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British Solomon Islands SG53f Diagonal line by turret MUH

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Straits Settlement SG256 Probably overinking or a doctor blade.

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john6625 wrote:British Solomon Islands SG53f Diagonal line by turret MUH

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John, that is a very strange one. I can see the future catalogue listing as; 'fly fishing by flagstaff' variety. :D

Have you noticed the 'arm waving' from the left most turret?

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Thanks Clive I noticed both of the extra marks but just attributed them to this particular variety. Seems not however.

It would be good to see some close ups of others to see if they are present.

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Great thread! I'm building a reasonable collection of this Jubilee issue and any resource on this 'error'/variant topic is valuable.

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Hong Kong 5 cent with 'lightning conductor':
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So after haunting this thread for some time I've gone "fly spotting" on my Silver Jubilee collection. The variation of placement of the internal artwork is pretty much like the variation of the placement of the 'Roo in the Map and 'roo stamps. All over the place. It's a bit off putting as is the variation in the clarity of the engraving.

Anyway I found a number of blobs and a few lines and this recognised flaw.

Trinidad and Tobago 3 Cents (SG240c) lightning conductor;
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I Shilling St Lucia with lines from the lower central towers. Looks a bit like an anti aircraft gun emplacement. I'm a bit curious about the "break" in the flagpole if anyone can advise please. ;

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1 Shilling Nyasaland Stamp with Doctor Blade flaw in left of frame

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Here's a 2 Pence from Northern Rhodesia that seems to have a number of flaws. I originally noted a flagpole to the left of the central tower. There seems to be something going on with the flag and the tower to the right as well;

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Re: 1935 KGV Silver Jubilee Stamp Omnibus Variety Tracker Th

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I found frame breaks and little blobs all over the place but this one tickled my fancy.

Ignoring the fact that the stamp is not in pristine condition and there's a small piece of lint on it in this scan the small ink blob near the king looked a lot like a UFO to me :)

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That's it from me - I'm not too sure on the others I've found

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New one found today that doesn't appear in my 2013 SG part one

Montserrat 1.5 pence - Bird (blue dot) left of left hand turret

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Re: 1935 KGV Silver Jubilee Stamp Omnibus Variety Tracker Th

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And right next to that on, this one which could be inking I suppose.

But I'm calling it a deformed e in cents

Mauritius 5 Cents

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More later (maybe)

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