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Want to start this new thread to deal with Saargebiet stamps and encourage build up of material illustrating variants in this area and general discussion.

Hope it can be an aid to identification to collectors.

Saargebiet History

Saargebiet was originally a German territory. After World War I the Saar was administered by the League of Nations for 15 years and established its own postal administration.

The first stamps of the Saar were German stamps overprinted "Sarre" (French name) with a heavy solid bar striking out the "DEUTSCHES REICH". This overprint was used for 17 values ranging from 2 pfennigs to 1 mark and went on sale 30th January 1920. The stamps of Bavaria were similarly overprinted and first available on 1st March, 1920.

On 26 March, more German overprints were issued, this time reading "SAARGEBIET" (German language name) and not striking out the name of the old Reich.

Surcharges of 20pf, 5m, and 10m on German stamps came out in early 1921, followed by the Saar's first definitive series. This was a set of 16 local scenes, ranging from a view of the Saar River near Mettlach to the Burbach Steelworks at Dillingen. The stamps were rudely typographed and most printed in two colors; (striking nevertheless).

On 1st May 1921, the series was surcharged in centimes and francs and in 1922 it was replaced by a new series of same designs, but redrawn with new money denominations and printed in different colors.

The Madonna of Blieskastel was commemorated by a pair of stamps (45c and 10fr) in 1925.

A new definitive series came out in 1927 borrowing designs from the first series, but in different shapes and printed in a single color using photogravure. On 1 November 1934 in preparation for the plebiscite the following year, the series was overprinted "VOLKSABSTIMMUNG / 1935"; the plebiscite of 1935 having gone in favor of rejoining Germany, and Saar came under the German postal system. The issue of a four stamp issue marked the event.

1920 Issue on Germania

The variations in these stamps CV reside in:

1. Identifying any lines below the bars (Types 1, 2 and 3)
2. Identifying the aberrations to the black bars that cancel the German text
3. Identifying the aberrations to letters (shapes and integrity) in Sarre overprint; to determine variants and fakes.

I will explain the features in more detail next.

It should be noted that there are many fake overprints in this area and this is a good discussion point. Bring out your fakes?

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SARRE overprints on 1920 Germania stamps

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I want to follow this thread too. I did pages for Saargebeit, Saar & Saarland a few weeks ago. I don't have any of the Saare overprints on germania yet but I am still interested.
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Identification of 1920 Saar Germania overprints.

Again these are all in accordance with Michel specialized catalogue.

Typing.

There are three types for the overprint Saar, namely Types I; II and III.

Below is a comparison of the types with reference to length of the Saar overprint and the position or lack of the black cancellation bar over Deutsche Reich. These are examples from my collection and I hope correct.

Type I and Type II Saar length is 10.7 mm and the Type III only 10.5 mm.
Type I has NO short line under the black bar whereas the other two Types have a bar.

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I was introduced to the 'ruler' accessory on Photoshop and this is excellent for measuring distances on original scans. This is also relevant to my thread on 1914-18 German occupation overprint stamps where small differences in distance mean a great deal to scarcity of stamps and hence their CV.

There is another level of identification as there are differences within each type in the overprints of both the bar at the bottom and the letters that form Saar.

Bar differences as in Michel Catalogue.

For Type I.

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For t Types II and III.

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Finally there are differences in colour that greatly alter CV.

The next table shows the Michel; values etc., for basic issue.

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The next table deals with the variations of colour and type for Michel 1 to 4.

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As above for Michel; 5-17

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Now the tables for 1-17 dealing with the Types I to III PF (aberrations to bottom bar and letters of Sarre.

Values Michel 1 to 5.

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Values Michel 6 to 15.

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Values Michel; 15 to 16 completed.

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Are your Sarre overprints expertized? I'm suspicious of the 80 Pf.

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I have not had this expertised and also am a bit suspicious. Will deal with fakes soon and indicate this one as suspect. I have several fakes expertised either on overprint of cancel. Initially I was trying to show set spread but maybe I should have left it out. Anyway I thank you for concern. Others reading those please note the comment.

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This is my favorite European stamp. It is so Saar-like!
I buy them when they are reasonable priced.

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Thank you for the post. As I said above somewhere, the the thread welcomes examples and discussion. These are different from most stamps being rather 'grim?' I am getting round to the issues soon. Nice that you have 6, 3 with and 3 without surcharge (Michel 69 and Michel 83A) respectively. Are there Michel defined faults etc., on them that you have identified?

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I am intrigued that stamps from the Saar picture smokestacks emitting massive amounts of pollution into the air as something to be proud of and to show off. Would such a stamp be issued anywhere today?

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Good point. Any other pollution stamps anybody?

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Do you have information on the French printer Hélio-Vaugirard?

When did they start printing - Saarland??? - and where did they stop????

Did they merge with any other French printing house??? Chaix???

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Saargebeit Postage stamps.
Concerning Helio-Vaugirard.
I have no more information than that covered in Stampboards from earlier posts (search full name in Stampboards) and Internet examination. It would be wonderful if anyone had information concerning the printing of the Saar stamps. Are there any people who deal with certification of overprints and who know more?

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I have many Saar & Saargebiet stamps. This thread is an excellent opportunity to learn about them.

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I hope we all learn more. I will 'do' the Bavarian stamp overprints next then the Germania Saargebiet overprints. Feel free to send in any examples of variations and flaws in any Saar stamps.

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There also exist inverted overprints. This one comes with a Herbert Ney certificate.

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There also exist double overprints:

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Thank you for the two scans. These are both extreme examples and of high value where genuine. I will scan in the Saar certificated as false (falsch) that I have for some discussion and as examples to others. Your web site (http://www.stampforgeries.com is of interest to me and I will dig around for any other forgeries I have. I do have many from the Hamburger Boten Institute (most for sale are forgeries) as well as the genuine articles. We need a thread on the Boten Institute (genuine and forged stamp identification) and I may start this if there is any interest at all.


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Thanks for starting this thread, as I also have a lot of Saar stamps and it will help me learn when I pick them up to organize them.

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John,

I'm glad that you find my website useful. I've just recently launched it, and have big plans :)
You can look forward to daily updates.

Please share any forged overprints as well as your Boston Institute forgeries/genuine.
I'll appreciate it if you drop me a e-mail via the contact form on the website.

I can fill this thread up with plate flaws and other unusual Saar items if you want 8)
Attached is no. 1 type III DD. Only few copies exist. Expertised by Ney/BPP.

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Excellent site -- stampforgeries.com


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birder,

thanks for stopping by :)

Here is another interesting one. No. 1 type I with both inverted overprint and plateflaw L (Michel). Expertised by Ney/BPP as "probably unique combination":

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Excellent thread. I will definitely take a closer look at my Saar stamps.

Could you tell us what plate flaw L is?

Thanks.

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This is a nice stamp too.

I believe plate L is denoted as having a flattened S in Saar. See the Michel table in posts above.
Combination then of Inverted OP and fault L.

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johncrow,

You're correct :)

One could just collect this series, and be occupied for years..

Another possibly unique combination:

Michel no. 14 a type I with flaw QII ("Einkerbung links am oberen Bogen des S"). Expertised by FA Braun/BPP. No price listed in Michel.

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I have a Michel 14a I Q II as Euro HM 600; NHM 1200 and used 1500!!! MICHEL SPECIALISED 2009 Page 777.
Note that the Q fault is a small piece missing from the outside top bend of the S according to diagram (see above posts for table and illustrations). This is not so apparent in the example given although there seems to be disturbance at the top of the S.

When you send in scans it would be great if you could (if you know) explain the nature of the faults and the provenance (ownership of stamp or scan or both) for future reference. I am trying to give examples from my stamps but of course it is highly useful to see actual stamps with the 'faults' to help identify other examples.

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Sure, I'll provide more info when applicable. The above were sold at a Gärtner auction.

Let me know how you want to organize this thread. I don't want to take this in the wrong direction.

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I only have a few of the more common Saar overprint faults and will post them soon. I will then go on (soon again I hope) to the Bavarian SAARE OPs. Here the high values often give cause for concern and the variations in the bars etc., are interesting.

Then on to the messy Sargebiet Germania issue with all its bent and broken overprints. After this the rest to 1935 era. I think that any examples of 'live' stamps with the origin of scan will be useful to others trying to identify stamps.

I am using Michel only as the catalogue for identification.

I am pleased if people send in scans with descriptions and comments, I see the thread as a help guide and discussion area.

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Now for a few of my own examples of faults and forgeries, again to illustrate some of the Michel descriptions and highlight breadth of overprint variation. Discussion is welcomed.

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"Type I with break in the 'a' of 'Sarre' :-Michel 1 PF NI".

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"Type I with break in "e' of "Sarre' :- Michel 3 PF Q I: signed twice".

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"Signed as false. The cancellation is bogus and is illustrated also in next few stamps".

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"Bogus cancellation on Michel 2 a II (CV Euro 3000 if genuine)".

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" Signed as false, crude overprint on Michel 9 b I".

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"Another bogus cancellation as two others above, on Michel I II (Euro 550 if genuine").

Now a signed genuine goody.
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" Michel 10 y I signed CV Euro 600, though I will recheck that cancellation".

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"Two faults here: Michel 6 IPF A (centre of black bar open) and PF M (broken top to 'S' in 'Saare' overprint".

More later.

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Interesting that the 3 identified as having false cancellations are all HOMBURG PFALZ / 15 / APR / Vor 8-9 / 20.

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More faults and examples.

This next stamp has full gum and is NH; it also is cancelled or just dirty fingermarked!! There are several stamps in my collection with full gum, NH and cancelled!! Suspect indeed and hardly a good CTO? Maybe someone has scratched the bar out?


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"Michel 4 I PF C: large gap in black bar to left. CV Euro 450 used if genuine".


Another 5Pf with oddities making it suspect but it is signed! Cancelled but with good gum! The second Sarre on stamp is an image to compare with the overprint version.
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"Michel 4 III PF V: top of right hand side of black bar is tapered CV Euro only 3.50".


Great block of 20 Pf showing faults on 2 stamps.
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"Michel 8 I PF A: stamp left hand bottom corner (gap in centre black bar and Michel8 I PF B (line running through centre of black bar) also possible 8 I PF Q I (broken 'e' in Sarre for bottom left hand stamp)".


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"The high CV 80 Pf signed false".


Lo and behold another Homburg Platz false'y! I am a collector of these it seems.

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"7.5 Pf type II Michel; 5 b II signed false CV if genuine Euro 4200- no wonder it as forged".


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"Nice Michel 12 I PF A (black bar broken in centre)".

Time for the Bavarian stamps overprints.

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More faults and examples.

This next stamp has full gum and is NH; it also is cancelled or just dirty fingermarked!! There are several stamps in my collection with full gum, NH and cancelled!! Suspect indeed and hardly a good CTO? Maybe someone has scratched the bar out?


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"Michel 4 I PF C: large gap in black bar to left. CV Euro 450 used if genuine".


Another 5Pf with oddities making it suspect but it is signed! Cancelled but with good gum! The second Sarre on stamp is an image to compare with the overprint version.
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"Michel 4 III PF V: top of right hand side of black bar is tapered CV Euro only 3.50".


Great block of 20 Pf showing faults on 2 stamps.
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"Michel 8 I PF A: stamp left hand bottom corner (gap in centre black bar and Michel8 I PF B (line running through centre of black bar) also possible 8 I PF Q I (broken 'e' in Sarre for bottom left hand stamp)".


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"The high CV 80 Pf signed false".


Lo and behold another Homburg Platz false'y! I am a collector of these it seems.

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"7.5 Pf type II Michel; 5 b II signed false CV if genuine Euro 4200- no wonder it as forged".


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"Nice Michel 12 I PF A (black bar broken in centre)".

Time for the Bavarian stamps overprints.

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Here is a better set of Germania Sarre that I have just bought. All signed so now I now have that 80Pf. All NHM too, nice lot.

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NHM set of Germania Sarre postage stamps

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As promised the Bavarian stamps with Sarre overprints.
Basic issue first Michel 18 to 31. All mine except the 2M. The 5M and 10M are not signed but I did seek opinions on Stampboards and the consensus was that they seem 'OK'. Note high CVs for genuine 2, 3, 5 and 10M. The 3M has that Homburg cancel (date different) that makes me a little suspicious.

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Michel 18 to 31. Issue of Bavarian stamps overprinted with Sarre.

The Michel 18-31 table.

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Michel 18-31 table of Sarre overprinted Bavarian stamps.

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One main area of interest are the 5 bar lines cancelling the Bayern. Below is Michel table illustrating variations. Note the bent lines on the very left bars are a result of scan, imagine them straight please!

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Illustrations of aberrations in lines cancelling the Bayern in Sarre overprint postage stamps.



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CV of aberrations in bar lines cancelling Bavarian postage stamps with Sarre.


Here are some examples of aberrations in bar lines I have, anymore out there?

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60 Pf Sarre overprinted Bayern with broken S and shifted overprint, Michel 26b PF L.


Michel 19 PF HI, closed 'e' and normal stamp.

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Michel 19 PF HI Sarre overprint with closed 'e'.


Michel 18 PF HI 5 Pf with closed 'e'.
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Michel 18 PF HI 5 Pf with closed 'e' and normal stamp.


15 Pf block showing three variants
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Sarre overprinted Bavarian stamps 15Pf block with three variants in cancel lines.


Another 15Pf block of 6 with variations.
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Block of 6 Sarre overprinted Bavarian stamps showing variations in bar cancel lines.


Another block of 9 15Pf.
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Block of 9 Sarre overprinted Bavarian stamps showing variation in bar cancel lines.


3M Sarre overprint forgery.
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3M Sarre overprint on Bavarian postage stamp with genuine Sarre cancel to right.


Two great forgeries on 20M and 10M imperforate Bavarian stamps.

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20M and 10M imperforate Bavarian stamps Sarre overprint forgeries.


Not so sure about this 5M and 10M
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Overprinted Sarre 5M Bavarian possible forgery.

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Overprinted Sarre 10M Bavarian possible forgery.

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John, nice collection you have there. Interesting way of displaying the varieties.
Here's some genuine overprints for comparison:

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'Saargebiet' overprints Michel 32 to 52.

Overview of issues 1920 to 1921
Most of variation interest is with the aberrations in the overprint as indicated in tables.

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Michel 32 to 52 examples of Saargebiet overprints.



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Michel 32 to 43 table Saargebiet overprints.



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Michel 44 to 49 table Saargebiet overprints.



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Michel 50 to 52 table Saargebiet overprints.


Main 'problems' with overprint damage.

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Overprint variants from Michel.

I will scan and show some of my examples of damaged overprints later.

More detailed Michel table in German showing CV of aberrations in overprint.

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Michel 32 to 38 aberrations in Saargebiet overprint.

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More progress with change in style too Michel 53 Saargebiet onwards.

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1921 Saargebiet Michel 53 to 69.


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CV Michel 53 to 69 table Saargebiet.


Michel 70 to 83 examples, stamps 53 to 69 surcharged.

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CV Michel 70 to 83 table Saargebiet surcharged .

Michel 84 to 101 examples.


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1922 Saargebiet Michel 84 to 101.


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1925 Michel 102 and 103 Saargebiet.


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CV Michel 102 to 103.

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A few items from the 1921-25 period. These were sold a
few years ago, but I still have the scans.

1921 - Offset surcharge on 75 Pf. SAARGEBIET overprint
(Scott 65 / Michel 50).

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1921 - Tête-bêche pairs and blocks -
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II - horizontal inverted/normal
III - vertical normal over inverted
IV - vertical inverted over normal

5 Pf. Scott 68a / Michel 53 A Kdr I/IV
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5 Pf. Scott 68a / Michel 53 A Kdr III
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20 Pf. Scott 70a / Michel 55 A Kdr II/IV
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20 Pf. Scott 70a / Michel 55 A Kdr III
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25 Pf. Scott 70a / Michel 55 A Kdr III
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30 Pf. Scott 72a / Michel 58 A Kdr II/IV
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30 Pf. Scott 72a / Michel 58 A Kdr III
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40 Pf. Scott 73a / Michel 59 A Kdr I/IV
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40 Pf. Scott 73a / Michel 59 A Kdr III
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80 Pf. Scott 76a / Michel 62 A Kdr III
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1925 Madonna - Scott 118 var. / Michel 102 V (broken T)
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Those inverted stamps look like they were done on purpose. What is there story?

Looking at your Saare overprints, John, and your forgeries. The fonts looked different and the printing quality varies too?

I was discussing KGV variations with a retired printer at last month's Morisset stamp club. I will try and work out how to copy your scans and take them with me to ask about next month. I'll let you know what he says.

I didn't have any Germania or Bavarian overprpints but from now on I can check your examples against my collection.

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Thanks for inputs. I like the 1921 - Tête-bêche pairs and blocks! I will get around to the officials soon too. The Madonna fault is also useful, there are as you know several faults in this Michel 102 and not easy to recreate the Michel page on them.

The Saare overprints on the Bavarian stamps are a little daunting especially when looking at the high M values. It would be excellent if there is any literature on these to help nail the forgeries that are 'very similar' to the real thing, or in fact show why some are real and others not! Maybe some stamp expert on these can give a few pointers in this direction. The 'tolerance' of bars and letter shapes would be useful, i.e. what variations can be associated with true overprints. Looking at examples of signed copies of the high values one does see variations!! Also some of the cancels appear to be forged (The popular Homburg Pflalz mob).
I did slip in my new purchase of mainly signed 1920s with the 80Pf hopefully genuine. Dr. Dub seems to be active in this area of authentication!

I do have a largish number of Saargebiet overprints and maybe it is useful to pile a few in to illustrate the variations in overprints even where there is no obvious Michel recorded interest, a question then?

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organicm wrote:Those inverted stamps look like they were done on purpose. What is there story?
I don't have any idea. A quick search through my library
and on the net failed to turn up anything.

The inverts occur in two adjacent positions of (I think) every
sheet. They are not scarce, except for the 20 Pf. perf. 10½.
On cover usages do command a decent premium.

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johnrcrow wrote:I did slip in my new purchase of mainly signed 1920s with the 80Pf hopefully genuine. Dr. Dub seems to be active in this area of authentication!
In his day, Dr. Dub was THE expert on Saar (also on
Sudetenland). The trouble is he expertized many other
areas and didn't always get it right. Add to that the fact
that his signum has been forged, and stamps signed by
him are not held in high regard today.

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I rooted through my files and found a list of Dr. Dub's
expertizing specialities. This dates from 1967.

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I wonder who is today's best referee for Saare?

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bpp.de lists Jürgen Bärsch, Axel Braun and Christian Geigle.
See the web site for contact information.

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Jay thanks for excellent information.
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Michel table for 84-97.

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CV MIchel 84 to 97 Saargebiet postage stamps 1921

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Now for later Saargebiet stamps 1926 onwards.

Michel 104 to 121.

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1926 Saargebiet postage stamp October issues, surcharged values for charity work and December issues.


My Michel 108 to 121 examples.

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Michel 108 to 121 Saargebiet postage stamps 1926 to 1927.


1927 and 1928 Airmail Issues.

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1927 issue with '1927-28' printed on Michel; 104 to 107 and 1928 Airmail Issues: Saargebiet postage stamps.



1928 23rd December issue Michel 128 to 134.

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Michel table and illustrations of 1928 Saargebiet postage stamp issue Michel 128 to 134.



1929 issue MIchel 135 to 141.

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Michel table and illustrations of 1929 Saargebiet postage stamp issue Michel 135 to 141.

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Michel 142 1930.
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Michel 142: 1930 issue Saargebiet postage stamps.



Michel 143 1930.
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Michel 143: 1930 issue Saargebiet postage stamps.



1931 Issue. Michel 144 to 150.
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Michel 144 to 150: 1931 issue Saargebiet postage stamps.



1931 December Issue. Michel 151 to 157.
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Michel 151 to 157: 1930 issue Saargebiet postage stamps.



1932 April Airmail issue Michel 158 to 159.
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Michel 160.
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1932 December issue.
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Tower issues of 1932 Michel 161 to 167 Saargebiet postage stamps.


Illustrated Tower issue.
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Illustrated Tower issues of 1932 Michel 161 to 167 Saargebiet postage stamps.


1933 Michel 168 to 170.
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1933 Michel 168 to 170 Saargebiet postage stamps.



1934 March issues Michel 171 to 177.
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1934 issue Michel 171 to 177 Saargebiet postage stamps



1934 Michel; 179 to 194.
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1934 issue Michel 179 to 194 Saargebiet postage stamps.


1934 Airmail.
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1934 Michel 195 to 198 Saargebiet postage stamps.


1934 December Michel 199 to 205.
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1934 issue of December. Michel 199 to 205 Saargebiet postage stamps.

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Now for the Officials.

Here there are some interesting variants and maybe I can concentrate more on these using Michel tables. I will come back to the previous issues concerning aberrations later with examples.

1922 June. Michel 1I to 11 II.
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Michel page showing CV for early Dienstmarke Saargebiet postage stamps.




Aberrations for Michel 1 to 11.
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Aberrations for Type II.
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Michel table of faults in lettering for Dienstmarke Saargebiet postage stamps.


Michel tables of variants in Michel 1 to 11 (in German sorry, later examples may clarify).
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Michel 12 I to 15 I.
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Michel table of CV for Dienstmarke Michel 12 I to 15 I Saargebiet postage stamps.


1927. Note the angle of overprint is into 'sides' of stamp not into corner.
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1927 Michel 16 to 21 Dienstmarke overprints Saargebiet postage stamps.


1929. Michel 22 to 32. Note that same stamps as above but overprint diagonal is into the corners of stamps.
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1929 Michel 22 to 32 Dienstmarke overprints Saargebiet postage stamps.


More on the variants of the Dienstmarke overprints later with examples I hope from me and others.

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