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Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 03 Sep 2020 00:48
by DJCMH
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Germany will be issuing a stamp on 3 September 2020 to commemorate the 75th Anniversary of the issuing of the first Allied Military Government Stamps in occupied Germany.

Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 03 Sep 2020 03:06
by OldDuffer1
Thanks for the info. DJCMH. Nice idea! Will look out for it.

Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Biz

Posted: 28 Sep 2020 03:58
by 2 a.m.post
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Scan i. Mi. 30 XXI.

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The image you show for Mi.30 XXI is not correct.

Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 28 Sep 2020 05:48
by johnrcrow
Thanks 2 a.m.post

Please indicate on your example the flaw. Maybe an enlargement too to help see what the details are?

The so called ´break` in the top that I indicated is not clear and is more a fading than a clinical break.

If your example is the same as mine you can see that there is a thin connecting ´tube`in the ´break` in yours as opposed to my less clear example. More a thinning.

Of course the flaw on yours could be somewhere else, so please indicate with an arrow at least where you differ.


Here is yours enlarged (assuming we are talking about the top right ´break`) ?
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John

Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 28 Sep 2020 07:37
by 2 a.m.post
This Michel listed plate error occurs on all 16 sheet types on field 98 of the 40 Pfg printing. This one happens to come from sheet type 1, the 'magenta' Mi.30a color variety. The Michel error is indicated by the green circle. Type 1 has the additional plate markings noted in the Arge AM Post 40 Pfg catalog. None of the other types have these two indicated with yellow circles.
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Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 28 Sep 2020 08:20
by johnrcrow
Good information 2 a.m.post.

Please indicate what the extra flaw is in the lower yellow circle. I see the dot in the other yellow circle.

John

Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 29 Sep 2020 02:49
by OldDuffer1
I will let you experts fight it out over Plate Flaws.

Meanwhile another Bizone Buildings cover:
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BIZONE Mi82,92,94

This is an Insured cover and postage calculated as follows: Regional Letter 150g:40Pf; Insured to value 1500DM:45Pf; Handling Charge for Insured Letter:60Pf. Total:145Pf.

Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 29 Sep 2020 04:23
by johnrcrow
OldD. The printing (handwriting) on letter is very childlike?

I wonder who was in the letter?

Not an expert on flaws but have the books, well some of them, missing the advanced tome on Am and Br flaws obviously.

At least shades are an ever debatable problem via computer connections.

John

Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 29 Sep 2020 04:30
by OldDuffer1
johnrcrow wrote:
29 Sep 2020 04:23
OldD. The printing (handwriting) on letter is very childlike?

I wonder who was in the letter?
We think possibly an old person's writing. However the address is very limited! It is in fact just the front of the envelope- perhaps part of a bigger one?

Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 29 Sep 2020 04:47
by honza
Ahoj OldD!

I was thinking Fa was Familie, but I now think it was Firma, because Degussa is a bank and gold dealer in Frankfurt. That would make sense as a destination for a letter of value and an address that would be well-known without elaborate detail.

Cheers,

Honza

Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 29 Sep 2020 06:40
by OldDuffer1
Thanks for that honza. That certainly makes sense!

Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 01 Oct 2020 02:43
by OldDuffer1
DJCMH wrote:
03 Sep 2020 00:48
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Germany will be issuing a stamp on 3 September 2020 to commemorate the 75th Anniversary of the issuing of the first Allied Military Government Stamps in occupied Germany.
Thanks again for this info. Have now received the rather nice official FDC:

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Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 02 Oct 2020 04:43
by OldDuffer1
Although titled "Bizone" I have included those issues produced specifically for West Berlin, up to the formation of the BRD.

Here is a cover from the last overprinted series, which I showed earlier in the thread:

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BERLIN Mi66

I recently noticed that on the reverse some of the value tabs had been used to secure the envelope. Since this is a 20Pf overprint on an 80Pf Trizone stamp the values tabs have also been overprinted!

Reverse:
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Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 07 Oct 2020 23:42
by OldDuffer1
Have been on the lookout for a Postal Stationery 20Pf card (at a reasonable price!) for some time. I was lucky enough to win this one recently. This is the return half of an International Reply Card.

Date: 19.10.49
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The message is in Czech!

Is that a very faint Czech censor mark?

They look like this:
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Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 00:10
by OldDuffer1
Just received this Registered Express Regional letter. Postage is 40Pf (Express);30Pf (Registered);12Pf (Regional Letter) giving a total of 82Pf. Since the date was 28th Feb.1946 (not a Leap Year), posted a day later it would have cost twice as much!

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BIZONE Mi5

Reverse:
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BIZONE Mi3,5

Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 00:54
by 2 a.m.post
Nice!

Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 04:59
by OldDuffer1
Thanks, 2 a.m.post. For a similar cover from after the rate increase (Trizone) see:
"Allied Occupied Germany Postal Rates 1945/1949-Illustrated"
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=89888

Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Biz

Posted: 31 Oct 2020 08:50
by aerogi
johnrcrow wrote:
18 Oct 2018 02:17
Here is a great flaw on NHM Mi.34, 80Pf.

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Any idea why this particular stamp from the whole set seems to be quite harder to find, and has a rather higher catalogue value compared to the other stamps?

this is my example in my collection
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Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Biz

Posted: 31 Oct 2020 10:51
by 2 a.m.post
Any idea why this particular stamp from the whole set seems to be quite harder to find, and has a rather higher catalogue value compared to the other stamps?

this is my example in my collection.
Nice corner piece to have with incomplete horizontal perforation rows.

Fewer than 1 million of the 80 Pfg issue were printed compared to 109 million for the 6 Pfg value.

Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Biz

Posted: 31 Oct 2020 20:03
by aerogi
2 a.m.post wrote:
31 Oct 2020 10:51
Any idea why this particular stamp from the whole set seems to be quite harder to find, and has a rather higher catalogue value compared to the other stamps?

this is my example in my collection.
Nice corner piece to have with incomplete horizontal perforation rows.

Fewer than 1 million of the 80 Pfg issue were printed compared to 109 million for the 6 Pfg value.
That is indeed a very big difference, but still, 1 million is quite a lot

Re: The Americans & British in Germany Stamps 1945-1949 (Bizone)

Posted: 31 Oct 2020 22:17
by OldDuffer1
The higher value AM stamps are particularly scarce used- as mentioned previously there appeared to be speculation in these stamps, (and the German printing 8Pf for some reason), at the time.