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Duke of Gloucester visit to Australia & NZ in 1934. A philatelic tour.

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I have been intending to use this years enforced confinement to rewrite my royal visit collections but never got round to it.

I have finally made a start and thought I would start with the tour of Prince Henry's, The Duke of Gloucester, tour in 1934. However I found it had the possibility of branching off into so many other areas.

My sheets are slightly larger than A4 so do not fit my scanner well so I will show the text and images separately.

If you have any comments, additional facts or material or corrections please post a reply or email me as there is some material I know little about.

Whilst writing it up I realised I would like some postcards to illustrate certain parts but I cannot find any. Do they exist?

This is not a competition entry or exhibit so may not be as grand as some.

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Australia and New Zealand 1934/35
HRH Prince Henry Duke of Gloucester

HRH Prince George had a successful tour of South Africa earlier in 1934 and was then scheduled to undertake this tour to Australia and New Zealand. However, it was quickly arranged for him to marry Princess Marina in November 1934 and so Prince Henry was allocated to take his place.

A special committee was set up to make the arrangements, an example letter is shown on the next page.

At the time there was also speculation about Prince Henry’s affair with a married woman, a future pilot, Beryl Markham. The trip was therefore a way to distance them. He did pay regular monies to her to avoid a public scandal right up to her death in 1985.

Whilst there were many duties to undertake on the tour such as the dedication of the Shrine of Remembrance on 11th November and the opening of the Anzac War memorial in Sydney on 24th November, the principal reason for the visit was to be the Royal representative at the Centenary celebrations in Victoria on 18th October.

There were discussions about a special stamp issue for Prince George’s visit using his portrait, though there are no records in the archives to prove it got to a design stage. Had this happened it would have been the first stamp issued to commemorate a British Royal Visit to the commonwealth. Due to the short notice no special stamps were issued for the visit of Prince Henry, though the Centenary celebrations were marked by the issue of a set of three stamps.


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A special slogan was used from 6th June 1933 until into 1935 to mark the centenary and used in states other than Victoria.


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The Prince set off from Hendon Aerodrome on 4th September 1934. He flew the Prince of Wales’s “Dragon Moth” to Paris. Having dined at the British Embassy they then travelled by train to Marseilles. On September 5th the royal party boarded HMS Sussex and sailed at 11.00 am.


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A souvenir guide of HMS Sussex which includes a picture of the Prince boarding the Ship.
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On 4th October HMS Sussex arrived at Fremantle with the Prince on board. A day of official welcomes and duties ensued ending with a ball at Government House.

From Fremantle the Prince travelled extensively throughout Australia and a special royal Train was put at his disposal. The tour covered vast distances and there were complications due to the different gauges of track. Victoria favoured a 5ft 3 inch gauge, New South Wales 4ft 8½ inch and 3ft 6 inch in Queensland and Tasmania.

Arrangements were made by the Australian Post Office for the postal, telegraph and telephone facilities for the train though a separate carriage for a TPO was not thought necessary. Mail was date stamped on the train by a Royal Train postmark and handed over to the local postmaster for inclusion in the normal mail. Otherwise special arrangements were made to send the mail to the Capital city of the state they were in for connection to the mail routes to other states or overseas.

Mr P Vanthoff (Deputy Director- General of Posts) was selected as the department liaison officer and accompanied the Royal Party throughout the tour.

The volume of mail despatched from the train was relatively small as it was strictly limited to those on the train. Any mail for the train had to be addressed c/o the GPO for onward transmission to the next stopping place.
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Photograph of the Royal train in New South Wales hauled by two class C36 class engines




The only way to determine where an item was posted is to refer to the timetable as a place name was not shown in the cancel. This is the timetable showing stops made on each day.

( I have this in a table format which is not copying. I will try and edit later)




A 2d Lettercard dated 30th November in Muswellbrook. It is cancelled by the special Royal Train Australia cancel dated 1st December. According to the timetable the train left Muswellbrook on 30th November. It was likely put into the mail on 1st December when the train reached Queensland being the state it is addressed to.



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The writer refers to the whereabouts of two registered items. They also mention the trip is nearing its end but has been a “corker”


The Royal Party sailed on HMS Sussex to Melbourne arriving on 18th October. They were escorted by HMAS Australia and HMAS Canberra. HMS Sussex was then “swapped” with HMAS Australia and the Duke became an officer on the Australian ship, which took him on to New Zealand and then back to England. HMS Sussex stayed with the Australian Navy during this time.
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A ticket for SS Edina signed by its master to watch the arrival of the Duke into Melbourne on 18th October. The reverse of the ticket carries a disclaimer for any injuries sustained whilst on the trip.
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A postcard of the crew of HMS Sussex said to be in December 1934 in Sydney after its transfer to the Australian navy.

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A special post office was opened at Princes Pier, Port Melbourne for the use of the visiting sailors of HMS Sussex and the other visiting warships during the centenary celebrations of Victoria and the City of Melbourne.


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A special cancel for the post office was used for the short period of the visit. This is inscribed “Princes Pier Port Melb SC7-Vic” . Two varieties of the registered label exist as above . The bottom cover has two of the three stamps issued for the celebrations. There was also a 1/- value in the set. Both covers are philatelically inspired.


A special post office was also opened on Victoria Docks for other visiting naval ships.

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Another philatelic cover by W A Walker posted registered from Victoria dock mentioning HMIS Hindustan. She was in Australian waters to act as an escort for ships attending the Centenary celebrations. She moved to Sydney on 29th November and then on to Brisbane for 7th December.




An example of the Royal Train postmark dated 29th November obtained for philatelic purposes as per note. Addressed to R G Cann aboard HMS Sussex. HMS Sussex notepaper and envelope used.



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On 29th November, the Royal Train was at Newcastle, West Maitland, Singleton and Muswellbrook so would have been put into the post at one of those stations.

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Whilst in Brisbane on 7th December the Duke performed an unusual feat by launching SS Orion in Barrow on Furness, UK. He pressed a button that transmitted a radio signal all round the world to Barrow which launched the ship. This procedure had been done only once before by the Dutch to launch one of the Holland Africa liners.

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She was completed in August 1935 and made her maiden voyage to Australia on 28th September. She brought new standards in for cruisers and was the first to have air conditioning in all public areas. She predominantly took immigrants to Australia though was also a troop ship during the second world war.





As part of the Centenary celebrations the All Australian Exhibition was held at the Exhibition Building in Melbourne between 13th October and 10th November 1934.


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Postal services were available with a Special cancel and registration label available.


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Specially printed envelopes and Cinderella stamps were also produced. The cover above was posted to Rex Allison, a well known Melbourne stamp collector. Addressed to HMAS Canberra, which was one of the escort ships to HMS Sussex at Princes Pier. Has a Princes Pier cancel on the reverse also dated 1st November.




The 75th Anniversary of the Incorporation of Newcastle NSW also occurred during the Dukes tour. Whilst mail from the Royal Train was supposed to be restricted to those on board the Newcastle Philatelic Society managed to get a few souvenir covers that advertised their stamp exhibition posted on the train.


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The cancel is dated 29th November which was the day the Duke visited Newcastle.


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They also issued a label to welcome the Duke on the 29th November, the same date as the Royal Train cancel as above.





Mail from the train was supposed to be limited to those on board, but souvenir envelopes to get the Royal Train cancel were available



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Cover dated 30th November addressed to someone in West Maitland where the train had stopped on 29th November


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Cover dated 3rd December addressed C/o the post office at Stanthorpe where the train had stopped on 1st December

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Cover thought to be true commercial mail from the train. Has a Royal Train postmark dated 31st October. On this date the train stopped at Woomelang, Ouyen and Mildura.

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The cover is addressed to The Right Honourable J A Lyons, M.P in Canberra and marked from the Prime Ministers Department. J A Lyons was the 10th Prime minister of Australia. He had three terms from 1932 to his death in 1939. He was the only Prime Minister to be in situ for three different monarchs and the only one to die in service. The Prime Minister met the Duke at his residence at The Lodge in Canberra on the 24th October.




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Royal Train postmark dated 16th November. The train stopped at Campbell Town, Euandale, Launceston, Colebrook and Rhyndaston, all in Tasmania, on this day.


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Ticket to attend the official welcome celebrations on the platform of Katoomba station on 27th November.


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Admission ticket to see the Physical Culture Display in the presence of the Duke on 19th October.

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On 10th December 1934, Prince Henry, The Duke of Gloucester, cut a ribbon to send DH61 “Diana” , flown by Captain Lester Brain, and DH50 “Hippomenes” commanded by Captain Russell Tapp, on the inaugural Westbound Imperial Airways service on the new Australian extension from Brisbane to Darwin at the start of the first regular airmail route from Australia to England.
The ceremony took place on a Monday to fit in with the Duke’s schedule but would normally leave Brisbane on a Wednesday.
At Darwin, the 55967 items of mail from Brisbane were transferred to two Imperial Airways aircraft bound for England via Singapore. The scheduled transit time between Brisbane and London was planned to be 12 ½ days.



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Envelope postmarked with the Royal Train cancel dated 10th December. The envelope is in the hand of the Duke and, therefore, the likelihood is that this envelope travelled on this first flight.
The Duke did have a privileged post in a special blue bag that included Christmas greetings and presents to members of the Royal family that was sent on this flight.




A piece from a parcel enclosing official negatives of pictures of the tour. The postmarks are 10th December and marked airmail from Brisbane, so the tins probably flew to England on the inaugural expansion of the service to London that the Duke opened that date.


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The piece is folded hiding a further 12/6 of stamps giving an overall total of £1 10/- .





Sir Macpherson Robertson gave £100,000 towards the Victoria celebrations for them to spend as they wished to promote the event. An air race was suggested to which he agreed if it was named after him and the most stringent safety precautions were taken. Hence it became the MacRobertson Trophy Air race from Mildenhall Suffolk England to Melbourne. The prize money was £15,000 plus a minimum of £500 for two gold cups to be presented to the winner of the speed race and the handicap race.


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Above is an example of the only official mail carried on the race by KLM plane “Uiver”. It is stated they carried 25900 covers at a weight of 192 Kilos. The plane also carried passengers and won the handicap race. It was known as the Flying Hotel. However unofficial mail was carried on all the planes and can make a large (and expensive) collection.





There were initially over 60 entries for the MacRobertson Trophy race but by the day of the start of the race this had reduced to 20 planes.
King George V and Queen Mary together with the Prince of Wales (later Edward VIII) visited Mildenhall Aerodrome on 19th October, the day before the start which was at 6.30 am the following day.
Queen Mary set foot in a plane for the first time when she inspected the KLM entry.
One of the entries was Jim and Amy Mollinson (Nee Amy Johnson). Their Majesties gave them a letter to be delivered to Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester when they met him in Australia.

The Duke of Gloucester presented the prizes and trophies to the contestants on 10th November at Laverton Aerodrome.



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A cover cancelled at Mildenhall on 19th October and then in Melbourne on 9th November. It was flown in the New Zealand entry, a DH89 Dragon Rapide flown by J D Hewitt, C E Kay, who has signed the cover, and F Stewart.
They arrived on 3rd November, 13 days later, long after Black and Scott who completed the race in just under 3 days.




Col Roscoe Turner, Clyde Pangborn and Reeder Nichols came third in the MacRobertson Trophy race in a Boeing 247D a Warner Bros Comet. They arrived nearly a day later than the winners.



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An envelope prepared 11th October in London and then cancelled 29th October in Melbourne addressed to the Centenary Council.

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To commemorate the arrival of the Duke in Brisbane on 4th December the Queensland Air Mail Society arranged the first Australian rocket flight. The idea was thought up by Alan H Young who was president and founder of the Society. He also did the launch.

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The launch was from a ship to the riverbank at Pinkenba. The rocket called SS Canonbar contained hundreds of empty souvenir envelopes, as above. Each one has a Cinderella stamp on the reverse cancelled with the same violet mark as on the front of the envelope.
The Cinderella stamps were printed in blocks of 4 as shown.







C T P Ulm’s plane “Faith in Australia” was put at the Duke’s disposal for his tour of the northern districts of New South Wales.
Leaving Mascot Aerodrome Sydney on 28th November with G U Allan at the control the plane flew the Duke to Lisemore, making this the first flight in Australia by a member of the Royal family.





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Cover number 1 for the first flight Sydney to Lisemore. No stamp affixed. Cancelled Lisemore 28th November and a 4d postage due added and dated 19th December in Sydney.




The crew for these flights were the Pilot, G U Allan, and B Sheil and R N Boulton. 200 covers were produced, and all signed by the crew.


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Cover postmarked Lisemore 28th November at 6pm. Covers are also known with a 3pm time stamp.






The Duke travelled by train from Lisemore to Coffs Harbour whilst the Faith In Australia flew there to meet him and then fly him on to Newcastle.



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Cover posted 30th November at Newcastle.
Similar covers exist postmarked Coffs harbour on both 28th and 30th November.

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50 postcards originally flown Australia to New Zealand in 1933 were carried on the Royal Flight and postmarked Coffs Harbour 28th November 1934


The plane, “Faith in Australia” was put at the Dukes disposal for his tour of the Northern districts of New South Wales. It was piloted by G.U.Allan and had R.N.Boulton and B Sheil as crew. On 28th November it left Mascot Aerodrome Sydney and flew the Duke to Lismore. The Duke then travelled by train to Coffs Harbour while the Faith in Australia was flown to meet him there and then take him to Newcastle.


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In addition to the flight covers from the aircraft “Faith in Australia” covers also exist from the “City of Grafton” which accompanied the flight. This was piloted by K A Virtue. Eustis state covers were postmarked at Lismore and Newcastle whereas the example below is postmarked at Coffs Harbour.

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Having completed the tour of Australia the Duke then moved onto New Zealand.
again a Royal Train was put at his disposal with a special Royal Train postmark. A Mr
G.J.Young was made Inspector in charge of the postal services on the train. His role
was to ensure the efficient handling of postal and telegraphic communications to
and from the train.

The Royal Train was used on the North Island from 19th December to 4th January and
On the South Island from 7th January to 14th January.

The postmark was supposedly strictly limited for use on official mail and it was
reported by Mr Young that only 50 pieces of mail received the cancel. No philatelic
mail was allowed and a strict censorship of this type of mail was imposed by the New
Zealand Postmaster General. As we will see this was not the case.

The movement of the train was as follows

North Island

19th December depart Wellington 12.01am. Arrive Napier 11.35pm.
Empty train from Napier to Rotorua.
24th December depart Rotorua 3.45am. Arrive Auckland 9.55am.
29th December depart Auckland 10.45am. Arrive National Park 11.05pm.
Empty train from Napier to Hunterville.
2nd January depart Hunterville 9.09am. Arrive New Plymouth 3rd January 9.45am.
3rd January depart New Plymouth 11.03am. Arrive Wanganui 2.59pm.
Empty train from Wanganui to Palmerston North.
4th January depart Palmerston North 12.15pm. Arrive Wellington 7.20pm.

South Island

7th January depart Geymouth 8.15pm. Arrive South Beach 8.23pm.
8th January depart South Beach 9.20am. Arrive Ross 10.55am.
9th January depart Ross 9.01am. Arrive Dunedin 3.40pm 10th January.
12th January depart Dunedin 12.00 noon. Arrive Waikiwi 6.19pm.
13th January depart Waikiwi 9.30pm. Arrive Kingston 12.05am 14th January.

Empty train indicates only the train crew travelled aboard and none of the Royal Party.






Cover posted 19th December being the first day of use of the Royal Train handstamp. It has the official paid cancel reserved for official mail from the Royal party. It is addressed to Campbell W Watts who was a NZ postal official and a known philatelist. The letter is on Prince Henry’s own official stationery and gives an indication many more such letters would follow. The initials of the sender appear to be GHM who would be G H Mackley, General manager of the New Zealand railways.



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Advertising cover for Chateau Tongariro in the Tongariro National Park. Partial letter on same stationery dated 2nd January. Addressed to Commander M H Moyes on HMAS Australia which was transporting the Duke by sea when needed.







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Royal Train postmark dated 4th January. On 4th January, the train departed Palmerston North at 12.15 arriving at Wellington at 7.20. The cover has a Wellington receiving mark on 4th January at 7.15pm on the reverse. I can find no reference that the Duke went sightseeing in the Park.




Cover posted with Royal Train cancel on 24th December at 1am. The train left Rotorua at 3.45am to travel to Auckland arriving at 9.55am. Addressed to P N Cryer, a postal employee in Wellington. Enclosed is a handwritten note dated 19th December confirming it was posted on the Royal Train and the cancel will be rare.
Only official mail was supposed to be posted from the train, but it appears the postal employees were arranging their own souvenirs.


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Whilst there was supposed to be no philatelic mail allowed to be cancelled with the Royal Train postmark here we have an unaddressed cover dated 28th December 1934 at 11.00am. The Royal Party were in Auckland for the period 24th December to 29th December, so are unlikely to have been on the train.


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Another by favour cover addressed to C W Watts dated 12th January at 2pm.




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A further Royal Train cover from 12th January but timed at 5pm. The train had left Dunedin at 12 noon and arrived in Waikiwi at 6.19pm.
It is addressed to Chaplain the Rev J C Waters on HMS Sussex. Although the Duke had transferred from HMS Sussex to HMAS Australia in Australia HMS Sussex was still an escort ship






A special telegram was produced for the Duke’s visit to New Zealand as below. This is the only telegram prepared for a royal visit that I am aware of.
The actual telegram sheet normally found inside the envelope is of the same design.

( I am on the look out for a used example of the envelope and form, even philatelic)




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Between 7th to 29th January nine flights took place from various parts of New Zealand in association with the Royal Tour, to carry urgent mail between the tour party and the main centres of Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch. On 25th January the aircraft carried dispatches and mail between Auckland and the Bay of Islands, returning on 28th January to Auckland.


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Auckland C.1. 10.30AM 29 Jan 1935 N.Z.

The cover is signed by both the pilots who flew the seaplane involved in this special flight, with the envelope being back stamped with WELLIGTON NZ 30.JA35-9.45AM DELIVERY

The letter is addressed to Mr C Edwards at the main post office at Wellington, who was the postal clerk in charge of mail for this Royal Tour.

The cover above was flown from H.M.A.S. Australia to Auckland by Naval Seaplane by Lieut. J. Sylvester and from Auckland to Wellington and by Flight/Lieut. S Wallingford piloting a NZPAF aircraft.

Of the nine flights undertaken with this Royal Tour, only 5 covers are now recorded as being flown.


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The Duke sailed home from New Zealand on HMAS Australia via Fiji, Samoa, Panama, and Jamaica.



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Only Jamaica commemorated the visit using a special slogan “Jamaica Welcomes H.R.H. Duke of Gloucester”. The slogan was used 6th March to 16th March.




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HMAS Australia arrived at Portsmouth on 28th March 1935 returning the Duke to the UK. He was greeted on the Ship by his brothers Prince Edward (to be Edward VIII) and Prince Albert (to be George VI).





Bibliography:

Philatelic Magazine 24th Dec 1965 – article by G P Goddard.

The Royal Tour Trains. Their postal history and postmarks by Norman Hill.

The Australian Airmail Catalogue by Norman Eustis

Air Mail news December 1995

Time Magazine October 29th 1934

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That's the end of the tour material. I have the following covers that I have not worked into the write up as duplicates the others.....unless you know different. I was going to put the airmail covers in but then that is a whlole different topic.

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Great thread Colin.

I would like to contribute, if I may, the following 1935 marbled-blue cover and Christmas Card to Detective-Sergeant J. Birch, Criminal Investigation Department, Melbourne; from Chief Detective James (Jim) Gibson of Dunedin.

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What has this to do with the Duke of Gloucester's visit to Australia and NZ in 1934-35?

The Herald newspaper, reporting on the retirement of Birch on 30 Dec 1946, states that Birch, Chief of the Special Branch, was the “official escort for the Duke of Gloucester when he visited New Zealand” and that the Duke had presented him with a watch.

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In 1947, Birch was awarded the King’s Medal for distinguished conduct. On being interviewed by journalists, Birch stated that he had only done his job, and produced that other (unofficial) award from Royalty, the "watch formerly belonging to the Duke of Gloucester, who had given it to him in 1935 after Birch had accompanied him on his visit to New Zealand".

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Chief Detective James Gibson of Dunedin, was also attached to the 1934-35 tour of New Zealand by the Duke of Gloucester; as one of the six NZ detectives selected for the Royal Tour. See this article from the Otago Daily Times of 14 Sep 1948.

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Gibson however, did not get a watch, he received "a striking silver pencil, engraved with the Royal arms". It seems that each of the police officers attached to the Royal party received a memento of the visit.

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It looks like Birch and Gibson got to know each other well during that tour, exchanging Christmas Cards at the end of that year.
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Colin,

A very comprehensive collection, it must have taken quite some time to get all these items 8-)

From an aerophilatelic viewpoint, the cover number 1 of the Royal flight to Lismore is very interesting. Why there was no stamp affixed is a mystery, I have two of the numbered covers and those as well all the others I’ve seen and the postal card, all have stamps.

I also like the parcel piece to the London News Agency dated December 1934 and of course many of the other items shown.

It’s worthy of working up an exhibit, so far it’s just over two frames from my count so not hard to get it to three frames, what do others think :?:
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Colin

An excellent collection. I bought some of these covers, I put them down when I came home & 5 minutes later they had disappeared. I am sure they will turn up somewhere.

This collection is most worthy of display but one comment or correction:

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You state "A special slogan was used from 6th June 1933 until into 1935 to mark the centenary and used in states other than Victoria" & you show an example used in Melbourne.

The statement is a little confusing. We know what you mean but you make it sound like it was not used in Victoria, only in the other states. I would replace that sentence with "A special slogan to mark the centenary was used in all states of Australia from 6th June 1933 until into 1935".

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BigSaint wrote:
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I would replace that sentence with "A special slogan to mark the centenary was used in all states of Australia from 6th June 1933 until into 1935".
Or, if you want to go to town ;) "A special slogan to mark the centenary was used at GPOs in all states of Australia; introduced in Melbourne on 6th June 1933, and later in other states. Withdrawn during 1935."
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Agree - a great thread!

Added this piece to stock this week at $A325 (582KA) and is relevant to this thread.

5/- Roos on ANY kind of compete parcel piece have a super strong following, and a PAIR on piece is very scarce.

And on a Press Outer to London, from the Duke's tour even better! ACSC is $A350 for a single 5/- use. The fortunate use of a 1/- Victoria Century is also a happy choice, as the Duke was here for the 1934 Víctoria Centenary Celebrations, and opened the shrine of Remembrance there etc.

Also a very rare stamp when used on cover or any parcel label - also $A350 in ACSC etc.

Very pretty piece I thought. :D

And clearly used from Adelaide is a bonus.

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Whilst not related to the 1934 tour, you could add a set of these stamps for the appointment of the Duke of Gloucester as Governor-General of Australia:

Duke & Duchess of Gloucester SG #209-211 issued 19th February 1945.
Duke & Duchess of Gloucester SG #209-211 issued 19th February 1945.

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Hi

Thank you for the responses.

Peter. The Christmas card is definitely a good link with a story to tell. Mail from those on board is so scarce and it is these people that had the true commercial mail to and from the train. I have a superb cover for the 1951 tour of Canada from the Mounty allocated to protect the Princess as she was then.

Tony. Thank you for the encouragement to do an exhibit. This is 30 years of collecting. Unfortunately I am not sure the quality of material would score well. If entered it would probably go in the new Social History class. I have expanded the material a little more as just ordered the piece Glen had for sale.

Glen. Thank you.

Brad. Thank you for the correction. I have gone to town with Peters suggestion and altered the sheet. I thought I had another cover I was going to use but that has gone missing. However I also failed to include this use of the slogan from Adelaide. Is its use in red symbolic?


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I also failed to illustrate the Centenary stamps that should be on page 1 so attached for completeness now. I will not include the 1945 stamps as I have that section to also write up but nothing like this one. The gutter layout of those stamps are visually appealing.

Hopefully your covers will turn up soon. I once had some covers at work that went missing. Turned up 2 years later in a customers file! Luckily it was me that found them.


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Thanks again

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The significance of the red cancel is that the postage has been paid. In the date section of that cancel you will see '2d paid'.

Royal Train - November 16, 1934 <br />with Victoria Melbourne Centenary<br />machine slogan.
Royal Train - November 16, 1934
with Victoria Melbourne Centenary
machine slogan.

Pity image of my cover is so small but I grabbed it from PPA website where I bought it. I am guessing the addressee was a postal worker at Station Pier.

Yes I am sure my covers will turn up & they will be in the last place I look. :lol:
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I went to my 1945 folder and found a few more bits for the 1934 tour. So much for my filing system.

An official folder for the Centenary Celebration opening. Contains a detailed, timed, list of the days event.


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The 6th Australasion Philatelic Exhibition also took place in Melbourne during the celebrations. I cannot find any evidence the Duke attended as not a collector unlike some in his family!





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As part of his tour duties the Duke officially dedicated the National War Memorial of Victoria. Ariel postcard view of the ceremony.

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And finally to sqeeze in somewhere a ticket for an invitation dance in Hobart for the Crews of HMS Sussex and HMAS Canberra on 14th November. On the reverse is written J W Watson HMAS Canberra and his partner for the evening Miss O Fysh

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To complete the Duke of Gloucester's association with Australia I will add his period of Governor General, not that there is much to add.

An interesting Letter dated 21st November 1943 in the hand and signed by Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester, referring going to Australia and that he and the Duchess are looking forward to going.

Prince George, The Duke of Kent, was to be Governor General of Australia but he died in a plane crash on 25th August 1942.

The Curtin Government in Australia asked for the Duke to be appointed in November 1943 and he took up the appointment on 30th January 1945


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Photo of York aircraft "Endeavour" prior to leaving England for Australia taking the new Governor General , The Duke of Gloucester, to his new post.



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A set of stamps were issued on the 19th February 1945 to commemorate his appointment as Governor General. The top left of the design has a spray of a British Oak and on the right the spray of Australian Gum leaves. The stamps were designed by F. D. Manley. The stamps were printed in sheets with a se-tenant strip up the middle.

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There are flaws/ varieties two of which shown here.

White spot after 1945 R6/4

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Colon flaw in large 2 at right L 5/1
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First day cover obviously exist

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This cover has a date error with the year showing 1944 , a year early.


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Slightly unusual item but I suppose can be used in social philately. A Clothing Ration Card for HRH the Duke of Gloucester at Government House Canberra also showing his identity number.


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On its own I may have doubts but also have a similar one for The Viscountess Clive (Vida) also at Government House together with her identity card. She was the first Lady In Waiting to the Duchess. The Viscountess married Brigadier Derek Schrieber who was chief of staff to the Governor General in Canberra in 1946.

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Letter on Government House notepaper but used whilst they were in Tasmania. Standard letter of thanks for a letter sent to the Duchess. It took 2 months for the letter to reach the royal party.

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During the war the Duchess worked with the Red Cross and Order of St John. This probably influenced the Duke to become the President of the Australian branch during his role as Governor General.

Preprinted acknowledgement of contribution.


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Invitation to an informal reception held at Parliament House Sydney on 13th March 1945.


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The Duke had to leave Australia in early 1947 as he had to act as Regent whilst George VI and his family went to South Africa. As a parting gift he left his own plane for the use by the Government and people of Australia.

Cover signed by the crew for the homeward flight posted at RAAF P O Darwin on 18th January 1947 with a Stanmore N.S.W. backstamp dated 21.1.47.

The crew were:

E Russell Bell, Wing Commander
Stan J nichol, Squadron Leader
Roy C French, Flight Lieutenant
J.S. Yeatman, Flight Lieutenant
John Critchley, Flight Lieutenant
Roger Court, Flight Lieutenant
Don Delany, Flight Engineer




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You could do 5 frames of the 1934 Royal Visit to Australia, social philately. Make a great display. You have enough material or close to it. :)

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These arrived today. When I first saw them I hoped they would be from the Royal Train but then quickly realised that they would not be as there were similar ones offered for the 1927 tour and they did not have the train as far as I am aware, certainly no train post office.

My presumption is that they were special menu's used whilst the Duke was in Queensland on all the Queensland Railways. Please correct me if wrong.

I note there is no price on them so would the meals be included in the ticket price?

There are two versions of the breakfast one and the Luncheon one has a wine list on the reverse.


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Colinscovers, I'd need to do some checking but I feel quite certain that Qld Railways would have made a train available for the Royal party. So, in effect, these would be menus from the Royal Train.

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Be for the big shots on board for SURE .. if you think in Great Depression era Queensland, the plebs were getting grilled whiting, filet steak, and imported Champagne etc as standard dining fare .. dream on! :mrgreen:
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Looking at the wine, gin, bitters, vermouth and whisky list, my first thought was: the future Queen Mother must be board. :mrgreen:

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Hi

I have found out the 1927 tour did use a train though there were no postal services on board that I can find.

I then contacted the Railway museum in Queensland who have replied

"The food and drinks served on these trains for the Royal party were definitely not the norm on our railway services and these courses and menus were created especially for the occasion (that’s quite an impressive drinks menu!"

So Glenn was spot on with his thoughts.

For me the bonus is that they are from the train.

Many thanks for your responses.

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Thanks to stampboard members I have managed to get the information on another 1934 item I had and also found another 1945 item so for completeness have now added them.

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Very interesting thread. Are you seeking material from earlier Royal tours of Australia Colin? :)

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More great material you’ve shown here Colin, as I said in an earlier post, you really should look at doing an exhibit :idea:
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Very interesting thread. Are you seeking material from earlier Royal tours of Australia Colin? :)
Yes is the simple answer. I collect all Royal Visits to all countries up to about 1970. After then mail was not the main way to correspond so the need for special facilities diminished. I do have the press bureau cancels and registered labels for the Australian tours in early 1970's .

Random items are on this thread.

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=22535&start=150

There is the 1901 visit on HMS Ophir. Lovely items exist from this tour though I have very few and then there is the Prince of Wales visit 1919/20 and the Duke of York in 1927.

If you have any material to offer would always be very grateful to get an email.

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