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Here is a block of three, 4 cents - olive green, China Junk stamps issued in 1926. Cancellation is light but reads "PAQUEBOT, POSTED AT SEA, REC 5 PM-D, MY 29 27, VICTORIA." A British Colombia paquebot cancel from 29 May 1927.
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VFND55 wrote:Here is a block of three, 4 cents - olive green, China Junk stamps issued in 1926. Cancellation is light but reads "PAQUEBOT, POSTED AT SEA, REC 5 PM-D, MY 29 27, VICTORIA." A British Colombia paquebot cancel from 29 May 1927.
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Correction to the cancel above should read "PAQUEBOT, POSTED AT SEA, RECEIVED, MY 29 27, VICTORIA."

Here is another China stamp, Dr. Sun Yatsen, Type II, 25 cents ultra issued between 1931-1937 with partial "PAQUEBOT" boxed cancel.
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Here is another China stamp, Dr. Sun Yatsen, Type II, 25 cents ultra issued between 1931-1937 with partial "PAQUEBOT" boxed cancel.
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..the latter which is a typical Hong Kong paquebot marking.

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I am not sure where this Paquebot was applied - possibly Bergen, Norway. Hosking in Paquebot cancellations of the world notes that the use of the term "Paquebot" was introduced in 1894 and this card is dated 18 June 1894 so it is fairly early. The cancel is not recorded as such in Hosking although he does not a similar boxed cachet (type 319) used from Bergen from 1905 and notes that is is seen in conjunction with Bergen-Newcastle Sea PO cancels. The latter is the cds on the card, all of which suggests that is an earlier version of the later boxed cancel.
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And while I am at it, here's something a little later, 1932 Victoria, British Columbia, Canada (Hosking type 2623) cancelling an Australia 6d airmail.
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I'm not sure that it actually got any air travel from Canada to California.
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I have this 1937 First North America Flight. Paquebot and Mute Cancellations. This is illustrated in Falks "Hindenburg Crash Mail" on page 59. Great piece of history :)
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Found this Paquebot cover whilst sorting thru some stuff .... Singapore 16 Dec, 1955.

Can't work out/read the rubber stamp impression in the top right-hand corner.

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I like this topic and I thought I would post one of mine.

A 1d Pink Queen Victoria Stamp, from Victoria, Posted in Port Said.

1908.

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GYDAM wrote:
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Found this Paquebot cover whilst sorting thru some stuff .... Singapore 16 Dec, 1955.

Can't work out/read the rubber stamp impression in the top right-hand corner.

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Ahoj Gordon,

Just saw this on the bump of the thread.

I am not sure, but the writing top right seems to have to do with printed matter. I am guessing it says Printed pack?, impresos (Spanish) and Drukwerk (Dutch) - a strange combination.

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Another one of my Paquebot covers,

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I found this card in a shoebox lot bought recently. Can't quite figure out the Irish Postmark. C O BH ? Can anyone assist ?
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Ahoj Ubobo!

Cóbh is a seaport in Co. Cork in the south of Ireland. It used to be called Queenstown.

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honza wrote:Ahoy Ubobo!
Cóbh is a seaport in Co. Cork in the south of Ireland. It used to be called Queenstown.
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Thanks honza. Some info curtesy of Wikipedia.
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Ahoj again Ubobo!

By a strange coincidence I came across this to-day when sorting some hagners.
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A GB 2d Wilding postmarked Paquebot Baile Átha Cliath (Dublin)

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Paquebot cover 1959 Inaugural Sailing of SS Rotterdam, New York Sep 11

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This is a cover sent from the "City of Brisbane", built in 1951 (there have been several ships with this name, but this was the only one I know of sailing in 1952). A cover with a GB stamp, canceled in Australia, and sent to the US...
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Picked this up recently in a mix of postal history.

Posted at sea on the HMT City of Marseilles presumably, on 14th December 1924.

I don't know what the markings are, but I'm thinking that 1½d F.B. is postage due? The 'T' I have no idea about. Or the number '73'. Anyone know?

I will research the boat at some point but did find this: https://uboat.net/allies/merchants/ship/1098.html

I thought it was an interesting thing :)
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Air Mail Paquebot from Freemantle to NZ.

20 Feb 1939.

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The cancel on this scrappy OCT 5 02 postcard has me beat.

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I tried some filtered solutions on PPA but no PO popped up. I also tried RetroReveal but it did not provide a clearer picture of the cancel.

Looking at the message the writer says she had a holiday on her way home to Perth. This made me wonder whether it was a holiday at sea ... thoughts of a ship cancel...

Possibly " something steamship " ...? Any thoughts ?

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Another -

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This time it is a mouse eaten postcard with Australian connection - kept because of the 1d red KGV and it's interesting 1921 useage.

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The cancel is "PAQUEBOT" in a saddle to the CDS then "TOULON SUR MER *VAR* " apparently rated B and common.

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A few more to bump this thread -
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Tasmania 3d. brown Port Davey ship cancel
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Much kudos to all who have contributed to this thread, like so many here it is really really educational.

I was puzzled by this cancellation on a 3d. brown Tasmanian Pictorial. Now I believe it to be a 'Loose Ship Letter' postmark. So hard when it is not on piece.

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I would like to add this early postcard to this thread. Although technically nothing to do with Paquebot, it has everything to do with sea mail, since the Wright Brothers hadn’t yet lifted into the skies!

The card starts its journey in Darjeeling (famous for its tea) in West Bengal on the 04.06.1902. Some two weeks later it arrives at Tuticorin, today’s Thoothukudi, right down in the south of India, in Tamil Nadu.

It is destined for Trooper Stapleton in South Africa, who has just survived the Boer War. The writer (Ernest) is meanwhile off on an expedition into Thibet (sic). These guys were made of stern stuff….

Now here it starts to get puzzling – and over to you guys to work out what happens next. The postcard is redirected to Leeds, UK. And somehow ends up transiting St John’s West in Canada on 22.01.1903. There are two other strikes which I don’t recognise and appear to pre-date the Canada stamp.

Whether this card ever found Trooper Stapleton after this epic journey, I cannot tell. Any thoughts?
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Bennich wrote:
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There are two other strikes which I don’t recognise and appear to pre-date the Canada stamp.

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The N-8 OUT cdss are Indian which are Renouf type 143a/Großmann type 44.5 (recorded used 10/1891–9/1921) Railway Mail Service postmarks of N-8 (Katak–Vishakhapatnam) Sorting Section of N Division (HQ Nagpur) RMS.

Here OUT indicates trip towards the RMS Division HQ.

SET No. indicates the group of RMS sorters which works together in the same beat of a Section.

A Sorting Section RMS dealt with the contents of mailbags addressed to it as well as the closed forward mailbags.

Sorting Section RMS did the sorting of letters inside the attached 3rd class mail car during the course of journey and each Sorting Section was provided with 2 date stamps per Set, one for Out-trip and other for In-trip (away from RMS Division HQ).

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Thanks once more, Joy. Very comprehensive!

I guessed they were Indian from the dates. So at least we know about the first leg of the journey. I'm surmising that the card then went by sea from Tuticorin, SA-bound. But what happened after that.....?

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Bennich wrote:
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I'm surmising that the card then went by sea from Tuticorin, SA-bound. But what happened after that.....?

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The card was sent via Tuttukkudi because from 1869, it was the main port in India for SA mail which was carried mostly by British India Steam Navigation Company via Shri Lanka.

Even though there is no postmark but the final destination seems to be Calverley, England as the address was never struck out.

After reaching SA, the card was redirected to Calverley but somehow it was mistakenly closed in a mailbag for Canada and it went to St. John, Canada from where it was sent to Calverley but I don't know who paid the 2c redirection fee at St. John.

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Thanks Joy,

That would be my best guess, too. I don't suppose we will ever know who paid for the redirection - but a Canada expert may know something we don't!

It's amazing that this small piece of paper survived the journey - and to this day! The joys of philately....

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An interesting item indeed. From a philatelic perspective I suspect that Trooper Stapleton left South Africa and went to Canada with the postcard in his pocket “to seek his fortune” (find a new billet) and re-posted the card back to his family in Leeds so they could see what “Ernest” was up to in India/Tibet. The 2c Canadian postcard rate was required because the card was re-posted not simply redirected within the prescribed number of days following receipt.

A further interesting coincidence. The postcard is sent from Darjeeling, features a picture of a Tibetan Lady and the writer mentions “ I’m just off on an expedition to try to get into Thibet”

The 11th Company Yorkshire Dragoons (approx. 115 men) served in the 3rd Battalion, IY, which was placed under the command of Temporary Lt-Col George Younghusband (from the Indian Army), when it arrived in S.Africa in Feb 1900. George was the elder brother of Francis Younghusband, who led the famous 1904 British Expedition into Tibet.

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Henry Ernest Stapleton, (1878-1962) the probable writer of this postcard, was also a Yorkshireman who joined the Indian Education Authority at the turn of the century, went on to serve with the Indian Army and was a Turkish POW for 2½ years when KUT Mesopotamia fell in WW1. He was also a lifelong Asian scholar.

A quick “google” sometimes yields a small book of interesting facts. This is also a brilliant example of how the message a Postal History collected postcard or letter can add volumes to the fascination of an item in a collection. Not to mention that it can significantly enhance the value!

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Hello Sark,

Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to delve into this further. I like your explanation far more, in that it is entirely plausible.

Yesterday I was doing some Google research into someone else's 1885 postcards as they were in French (my second language). It is always amazing what can be found. So I'm so pleased that you discovered what you did.

As it happens, my Great-Uncle, Marco Pallis, undertook at least two expeditions into Tibet - but later in 1933-36. (Photo below). He wrote a book on these called 'Peaks and Lamas' (1939) and became great friends with the Dalai Lama. Things were pretty tough and primitive then, so I can only imagine what it was like in 1904. I was hoping Stapleton might have been mentioned in his book, but no such luck!

I'm most grateful to you,

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1984 Baltimore USA Paquebot

Madonna of the Candelabra, by Raphael (The Walters Art Gallery, Baltimore USA)

ITALY postage stamp with USA postmark! VERY RARE maximum card.
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A bit worse for wear but also a bit unusual:
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Here's a few more I've acquired in the last few months:
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1935 Paquebot maximum card France - S.S. Normandie's Maiden voyage

A special machine cancellation was used also on board the ship. Departed Le Havre 29 May 1935, arriving New York USA 3 June 1935.
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