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Just to make a change from the waste paper. Here are some stamps!! First up is a block of KUT/SG 131, which if I could ever made the effort to sell anything on ebay. I'd sell this as....From Abdullah Obama, to his grandson. Sean Michael Barrack O'bama.

Loose letter I would think. Postmark is New York City.

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Second up is a Canadian pair. Their Sg# could be somewhere between 49 and 71. I'm still working on the Canadian Vic's. However, this pair I like because it illustrates the colour difference.

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...and to give some more class to the thread. here is a stamp from what was once the Empire of the French. I don't know a great deal about French stamps. However, I notice there are a few French collectors here. Perhaps they would do the honours?

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Next up is another French paquebot. La Havre to New York. Once again I would ask the French collectors to comment.

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Now that brought a little class to the thread. Don't you think.

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Two more to let some actual stamps through. Not of course that I don't like covers. Just that I do like to see the stamps now and again. First up is a Geo. V SG 111a.

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Second are two paqubots out of Africa. Gold Coast SG15, and Lagos SG22.
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In regard to the two french paquebot stamps above. I'm amazed, but I found the information on both these stamps on this thread!. If anyone is interested in them, or indeed paquebots in general. I suggest they read the post by TPO_ seapost_web. Paquebot list.

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Another French, which I think is very attractive.

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French again.

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.......and as a change. French!!

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I have just noticed the symboled 20 at the top of the last one. I have no idea what it means?

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huanga wrote:Another French, which I think is very attractive.

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I have just noticed the symboled 20 at the top of the last one. I have no idea what it means?
Ahoj Huanga!

This postmark does not look like a paquebot strike to me. Until 1st April 1931 the French still had a post office in Port Said and although there were stamps inscribed Port Said, I think metropolitan French stamps were also accepted.

In the last scan I think the symboled 20 is £20 - the price of the cover at some point in its past.

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huanga wrote:Two more to let some actual stamps through. Not of course that I don't like covers. Just that I do like to see the stamps now and again. First up is a Geo. V SG 111a.

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Second are two paquebots out of Africa. Gold Coast SG15, and Lagos SG22.

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The problem with loose stamps, 'classic' or otherwise, is that it isn't always obvious what the postmark is.

Another point: if the postmark is identified, then the message should state what the details are so that Google can find it in web-wide searches and in the Stampboards search. Identifying the stamps is one thing: but especially for this thread, then the Paquebot location should be identified. (The Canadian pair earlier is LIVERPOOL, but the KUT/New York one isn't a paquebot anyway.)
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Good point norvic..good point.

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A remarkable Paquebot cancellation from New Hebrides. Supposedly rare.

If anyone could provide any information on this marking I would be grateful.

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A marking which has the word paquebot in the cancel but not a true pquebot usage. It is ship mail posted aboard the Messageries Maritime vessel El-Kantara backstamped Tahiti 8-9-23.

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RMSP Asturias 1907-1923

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The vessel was re-named RMSP Arcadian in 1923 but here we have a 1929 Postal Union congress stamp cancelled with the Ships cancel dated 1931.

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A cape town packet.

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I think these one's have done there rounds...

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Ahoj there!

Three nice paquebot cancellations:

1 MALTA

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2 SINGAPORE

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3 and one I posted on the GB postmark database thread from LONDON

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Not quite sure if this is the right place to post this but I came upon this Canadian 13 cent "Brittania" which was over typed.

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I did some research and believe the stamp is linked to a ship Named "SS Canadian Constructor" a 7,178 ton refrigerated ship.

Built by Halifax Shipyards Ltd, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada | 1928 managed by Canadian National Steamships Ltd., 1936 transferred to Canadian National Steamships, in Montreal Australia New Zealand Line (MANZ) service, 1939 sold to Ernels Shipping Co., London and renamed Argos Hill.

Damaged in an air ausault during WWII. Resulting in a hero.

Ernest Burnett, Esq., Chief Engineer, s.s.
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damaged by heavy explosions on the port and
starboard sides of the engine room. The
lights failed, steam-pipes and sea-valves
burst, water poured in and the bilge pumps
were put out of action. There were soon
eight feet of water in the engine room. The
Chief Engineer by prompt and determined
action lifted the manhole of one of the bottom
tanks in spite of the considerable depth of
water over it. So they were able to keep the
water down and bring her into Weymouth
Bay under her own power.
To be an Additional Officer of the Civil Division
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On the 7th of August 1945, a week prior to the end of the war, was burnt out and later scrapped.

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It looks as if the stamp has been placed on the envelope and then the address typed over it! (Note the word 'Bldg" - part of an address surely?)

Either typed, or applied by one of those Addressograph plates, perhaps on redirection as it was Merchant Navy. If the word 'Constructor' wasn't in quotes I would suggest that it was an official title (Chief Ship Constructor perhaps) and not related to any particular ship.
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Built in 1922, She was supplied to Canadian National Steamships who set up a one-ship company, Canadian Constructor Ltd, to own her.

Since it was a one ship company the way constructor was parenthesized leads me to believe it was mailed from or to the Canadian National Steamship office, regarding something about this ship.

But I do see your point it may have been addressed to a "Constructor" at a Steamship company.

Never the less thought the history if linked to this ship interesting.

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Kelantan. SG 43 and 48.

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Hi just thought I pop in ask if this is a Paquebot? I haven't seen a cancel like this on a stamp or cover well I don't see much of anything actually :lol:
Anyhow here it is. Sorry about the size I copied it from the web.

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Micky wrote:Hi just thought I pop in ask if this is a Paquebot? I haven't seen a cancel like this on a stamp or cover well I don't see much of anything actually :lol:
Anyhow here it is. Sorry about the size I copied it from the web.

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I guess your right Kainnikanada I never thought of that, thanks and Happy New Year.

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Micky:

Someone with copies of the paquebot cancel books will be able to give a definitive answer.

Why not post it on the Australian cancel thread where examples have stumped collectors?
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Here are three New Guinea examples from my collection:
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Posted on board the Burns Philip "SS Mataram" most likely in 1924 although it was not sold by them and renamed until 1935; so the date could also be 1934.
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One of four pictures of the "SS Mataram" I could find - this one from a postcard offered on ebay last year.
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1924 piece from a letter posted somewhere between New Guinea and Australia.
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1934 posting from somewhere in New Guinea?

We often see covers in Rev. Voyce's distinctive handwriting - as in this case; on the back is a written instruction indicating it was to be saved for him? The cover either originated in Buka where he was based and did his work or was posted on one of his travels between NZ and New Guinea.
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As I mainly collect Egypt

Egypt has 4 ports that has PAQUEBOT cancels

PORT SAID , PORT TAUFIQ , SUEZ and ALEXANDRIA

and some of them have many types ....

Here are the 3 I do have for Alexandria, Egypt ( not very common )

Postcard, with no Stamp
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Cover 1 & 2 : the word paquebot is written below the word "ship" which is written in Arabic

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the red writing is not on the cover ... it is on the plastic cover


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For Alexandria there is another PAQUEBOT stamp in french - I think which is written - " PLIENE MERE" for high seas ... this is a rare postmark ... & I am still looking for it

Other PAQUEBOT do exist for Alexandria ... but I still haven't been able to find for my collection

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This arrived in a bunch of postcards today. Can't find it in Dovey & Morris. :?

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Ahoj everyone!

Here is a medley of paquebot markings on Commonwealth stamps, mainly from the West Indies.

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The top left is a strike of the German East African Line on a stamp of Tanganyika.

The bottom left is a Trinidad mark on St. Vincent.

The others are unidentified, si if anyone can locate them, I would be very grateful.

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A manuscript Packet Boat endorsement of Folkestone on the Kent Coast, England with the French stamp cancelled by the ordinary postal cancel SP 15 03.

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Hi, I have one of those Paquebot cancellations now got it right this time, no idea what the word or words are before Paquebot anyone got an idea?

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It is COLOMBO PAQUEBOT, Ceylon ... now Sri Lanka, Dovey & Morris number 2966, used 1913 & 1914 only, rated A = Easy to Obtain, value on full cover = £5.
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I'm happy with that, paid a couple dollars to much but it's my first :D

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Two on piece. Both SG45 and both outward from Lagos. The first is as the d/s states, 'Deutsch Seepost.' The second is for Plymouth and likely would be carried by the Elder Dempster line.
[I say that because I'm not sure if Holt vessels called at Plymouth.]

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Another very nice strike. This one also outward from Lagos. However the Country had by now been renamed, Southern Nigeria. So this is SG34

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Two tied on piece. Nigeria SG69 & 72 Carried on the Motor Vessel Obuasi.

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Here is one I picked up

St Helena cancelled Cape Town Paquebot:

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Ahoj everyone!

Here is one I just picked up.

A postcard from Saint-Louis Senegal addressed to the Czech part of Austro-Hungary with a French stamp dated 6th September 1906. The postmark reads BUENOS-AYRES A BORDEAUX.

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That's nice - and many postcard dealers would pass it up without a second glance.
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One more for the list.
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[quote="nasreldeen"]As I mainly collect Egypt

Egypt has 4 ports that has PAQUEBOT cancels

PORT SAID , PORT TAUFIQ , SUEZ and ALEXANDRIA

and some of them have many types ....

Here are the 3 I do have for Alexandria, Egypt ( not very common )

Postcard, with no Stamp

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For Alexandria there is another PAQUEBOT stamp in french - I think which is written - " PLIENE MERE" for high seas ... this is a rare postmark ... & I am still looking for it

Nasraldeen Hi

Just had a look at the postcard you pictured here. It is stampless as it was posted by a Military person. It is endorsed "F.M." which stands for Franchise Militaire. When mail is handled by a French PO as in this case no stamp is required. Hope this is of interest.

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Nasraldeen since my last post I've had a dig around my GB Stationery collection and found a copy of the Pleine Mer mark you referred to. This ones in my collection but I'll let you know if I see another around the WWW.

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Ahoj everyone!

A couple of paquebots usages I came across. I hope I haven't posted them before.

A GB EVII 1d cancelled at FREMANTLE Western Australia

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and a similar GB 1d used in MARSEILLES France.

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and finally a 10c French Oceania used in AUCKLAND New Zealand.

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Already posted elsewhere but still appropriate for this thread...

GB KEVII 1d scarlet cancelled at Valletta, Malta on 26 May 1906.

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It is probably philatelic, but still a nice clean Durban Paquebot cancel.

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It was posted on board the "Stoomschip Radja" of the N.V. Stoomvaart Maatschappij. I haven't been able to find out much about this ship, other than that it was a freighter dating from 1946.

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Ahoj!

Two paquebots strikes on French African Ivory Coast stamps:-

PAQUEBOT POSTED AT SEA RECEIVED 15 DEC 22 LIVERPOOL

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and COURRIER(guessing) HAUTE MER s/s THYSVI.. sounds a Scandinavian vessel. Anyone know anything about it?

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and finally PAQUEBOT PENANG on Siamese / Thai stamps.

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Ahoj again !

A couple more maritime postmarks:

New Guinea SG 126 with LOOSE SHIP LETTER postmark.

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and

Tanganyika SG 95 with DEUTSCHE SEEPOST OST AFRIKA LINIE k postmark.

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Egyptian postcard sent 10 November 1910 to London bearing GB KEVII 1d red cancelled at Valletta, Malta.

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Postcard sent from S. S. Baradine on 19 April 1929 to England bearing GB Mackennal 1d red cancelled with the straight-line PAQUEBOT mark at Valletta, Malta.

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Cover sent on 16 November 1929 to England bearing a pair of Malta 1/4d's cancelled with the LONDON F. S. PAQUEBOT machine cancellation.

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... and the last one:

Cover sent from S. S. Iberia on 7 September 1968 to Sussex, England bearing GB Machin 1d and IOM Wilding 3d cancelled on 9 September 1968 with the PAQUEBOT/MALTA c.d.s.

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Two cards. A few months apart. Both from Bocas del Toro to the same person. One got the "Paquebot" cancel, one did not. Most probably went on a United Fruit Company's banana boat.

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It would seen the united Fruit Company had a bit of a checkered past.

The United States completed the present Panama Canal in 1913 and officially opened it in 1914

"With the completion of the major work on the canal in 1913, some 5,000 workers were transferred to the United Fruit Company's banana plantations in the western province of Bocas del Toro."

"Bocas del Toro: meaning “mouth of the bull” - name of city and province developed by the banana industry, which is wholly in the hands of the United Fruit Company. Annual shipments from this locality now amount to about 7,000,000 bunches (in 1914)."

"In addition to controlling large amounts of land, United Fruit also had a stranglehold on transportation, with its own fleet of ships and railroads. This allowed United Fruit to provide tropical fruits like bananas and pineapples at a lower cost than the competition, ensuring market security."

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Lots more history on the United Fruit Company on the web.

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Here is a Paquebot Hong Kong from 2 October, 1972, to Zwolle in the Netherlands.

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It was posted by the Captain and Mrs S..... on board the ms Steenkerk.

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I guess it's time to bump this thread. :)

LONDON F.S. / AIR MAIL with slogan PAQUEBOT / POSTED AT SEA
27 October 1934

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Also posted in here: https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=26976
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