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First I hope that this is the relevant area for this series of postings. If not then admin please direct it to the best slot. It may need a separate thread?

Having just sorted through my collection of stamps and letters of the German inflationary period, and scanned a large number, I thought it interesting to show the complete series I have, with the Michel tables in English, in order for people to better evaluate their examples.

There are many references and excellent features on the inflation period here in Stampboards so I am loathe to compete however, I think an examination in detail of the era with examples of variants etc, would value add a great deal.

So this is for beginners in the area as well as more advanced collectors. I hope it generates discussion, particularly when I get on to the postcards and letters of the period. Hopefully it will answer the more simplified questions often sent as well as stimulate some argument on more difficult stamps.

I am putting 5-6 scans only for each posting. They show examples of all postage stamps issued and that might have been used from the period mentioned in the title. Where appropriate I have examined some features of stamps in more detail. I then move on to the postcard and letters of the various postal charge changes throughout the period.


Please try and ignore my pencilled annotations, I have a well thumbed and used copy of Michel in English.

Note. In Tables following a,b,c etc denote shade differences.
I and II denote differences in crown cross and script. I features an absence of a cross, II shows a normal cross, as shown below.
** Never hinged mint (NHM)
* Hinged mint (HM)
Circle with dot = postally used
Letter sign is general value for any printed matter (examined in detail later).

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Table 1. Michel English list Jan 1920 to April 1921.

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As usual determination of colour is a problem particularly with cancelled (used) examples. Expertisation is recommended, but even here I have examples where there are large colour differences in what have been designated the same variant! Also computers can never reproduce the conditions for best examining the stamps.

As mentioned by many others, the cancelled stamps are valued much more highly as CV than mint. This gets worse as the window for the use of the stamps was shortened in the hyperinflation era. Most of the cancels are regarded as false and used stamps are best valued after expert.

Figure 1. My page showing Michel (Mi.) 140 to 153 (plus four 1921 stamps dealt with below)


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Figure 2. My example the 3 Michel 140 shades all signed as genuine.

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Figure 3. My examples of signed Mi. 142 shades.

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Figure 4. My examples of signed Mi. 143 a and b shades.


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Table 2. Plate flaws.

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Very nice, thank you for posting them. Do you have any example of 2 plate printing vs. 1 plate printing?

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I have forgotten to mention the watermarks and they are important for identifying stamps. So far and below, all the watermarks are type 1, in German Wz. I named Rauten (lozenges).

WM 2 comes in later and is in German Wz.2 Waffeln (Waffles).


Next 4 are not so easy to assess as they rely on colour and gloss of the overprint.

Table 3. 1921. Mi. 154 to 157.

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Table 4. Plate flaws.

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Figure 5. Enlarged Mi. 154 to 157 from my collection in Figure 1.

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Figure 6. Signed Mi. 154 examples.

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Next we have a common lot and notice very little CV for mint. The ones that stand out are the 10Pf. where the shade (b) commands a high CV and some of the shades of the 5M red
(b and c) and the 20M b.


Table 5. 1921. Mi. 158 to 176.

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Figure 7. My page of Mi.158 to 176.

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Figure 8. My proofed NHM Mi.159b

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I am looking for example of Type I, I know I have some but where? Someone could post one please?


Figure 9. INFLA proofed 159a for comparison. 159b also INFLA Berlin proofed.

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Figure 10. Close up of Mi.176 from my page. Not too sure these are correct, comments welcome.

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Table 6. Mi. 176 variants.

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Here we look at the pattern behind stamp (Burelage). Burelage features in more stamps that follow.

Now a watermark change to Waffles.

Table 7. 1921 Dec to 1922 August. Mi.177 to 196

Common stamps but some with very high CV if proofed cancelled. Note 5, 10, 15 and 30 Pf- Mi. 177, 178, 179, 181 and 80Pf, 120Pf, 160Pf as well as 194 shades b,c.


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Figure 10. My page cancelled Mi. 177 to 196.

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Figure 11. Close up my 5,10 and 15 Pf high CV (not proofed so suspect- comments welcome).

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Figure 12. Closer look at my Mi. 180 to 190. Again not proofed.


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Table 8. Plate flaws

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Figure 13. Signed 194 5M. WM2.

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Two that slot in now. This time with Waffles (Wz 2)watermark as against lozenges (Wz 1).


Table 9. Mi.197, 198.

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Figure 14. Close up my Mi. 197 198. I will check for more cancelled and that brown lilac!

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Table 10. 1922. Mi.199 to Mi. 204. WM 1 (Losenges)

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Figure 15. My page including Mi. 199-204

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Figure 16. Some INFLA Berlin proofed examples. Mi 199 a and c.

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Figure 17. Some INFLA Berlin proofed examples. Mi 199 a and d, Mi. 204a and b.


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Michel 205 - 209.
There was the introduction of post horns with Mi. 171 to 173 (two colours, WM 1).

Now we get the two coloured post horn with different methods of printing namely Flat plate P-Plattendruck or Rotary press (W)-Walzendruck) alternatives for stamps.
Some aid to identifying which is shown in Table 11. I can come back to this if there is any more interest.

Table 11. Michel 205 to 209.

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Table 12. Flaws.

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Figure 18. Close up of post horns shown on my page Figure 15.

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Figure 19. Mi. 207P and 208P INFLA proofed.

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Now for the airmail issues 1922. WM2 and the stamps have a coloured Burelage

Table 13. 1922 Airmail. Mi. 210 to 218

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Figure 20. My page including Mi. 210 to 218.

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Figure 21. Enlargement Mi.215 to show Burelage

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A slight break from Michel order to put in some scans relating to question asked and to further clarify identifications. I shall not give these figure headings.

Question as to showing No Crown Type I. Here are 2 candidates. I think the 75Pf is Ok, 80 has cancel complication.


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Annotated scan.

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P and W printings.

Here are three 50Pf examples showing P, W and shade differences. <Left to right

Mi. 209 P, 209 Wa, f given to me as 209Wb (€130!) if proofed.

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Annotated scan. Examines the 50 and stars and shows shades better.

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Michel 208 W and P (Left to right).

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Annotated scan showing differences in the 30 and stars.

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Superb thread johnrcrow, one which I will one day make good use of :D
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Now a few pages of flaws from excellent book `Plattenfehler Katalog, Deutsches Reich, 1872-1945, Verlag`. Excellent book so buy it, hope that reproductions for here are OK? The prices quoted are in €. Although in German most flaws can be identified from pictures I think.

Note that although the Inflation issues are common, particularly the mint, the flaws (including those on NHM and HM) command good to high CVs and should be looked for. These include flaws listed in Michel catalogue, as well as other flaws not mentioned in Michel. Useful I think at least to show scarcity value.

Scans denoted as PKDR (initials of title of book) 1, 2 etc.

PKDR 1. Mi144 fA. Not easy to miss.


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PKDR 2. Mi.150 f21 and fA.


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PKDR 3. Mi.152, 153 as in scan.


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PKDR 4. Mi.153, 154, 155 as in scan.

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PKRD 5. Mi.155, 157, 162 as in scan.

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Later I shall attempt to put in actual stamp scans. If anyone has these examples or any of the many following flaws then feel free to post.

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PKDR 6. Mi. 182, 183.

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PKDR7. Mi. 183, 185, 196.

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Now back to Michel Tables.

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Table 14. Michel 219 to 223.

Note high CV for 400M shades b and d cancelled.

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Figure 21. Enlargment of my Mi. 219 to 223 Wm 1.

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Three flaws I have.

Mi. 219 I


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PKDR 219 f24


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Mi. 221 I Hook on h


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Table 15. 1922 Mi.224 to 232 WM.2. Post horns with single colour.

Shades, P (flat plate) and W (rotary press) printings.


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Figure 22. My page showing Mi. 224 to 237.

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Figure 23. Enlargement of 224 to 232.

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Table 16. Mi. 233 and 234.


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Two flaws I have.


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Table 17. Airmail 1923. With coloured Burelage.


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Figure 24. Enlargment of my three examples. Arrow points out Burelage.

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Table 18. Mi. 238 to 245.

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Table 19. Plate flaws

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Figure 25. My page showing Mi. 238 to 257.


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Figure 26. Enlargment go high CV Mi. 245. Genuine cancel?

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Table 20. 1922. Mi.246 to 257.

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Table 21. Flaws

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Fig 27. My flaw. Mi. 246 I

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Figure 28. My flaw Mi. 257 III

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Some proofed stamps.

Mi. 246a and b, Mi. 248 a and c

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Mi. 254 a,b,c


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Mi. 256 b and c.

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Table 22. Mi. 258 to 260.

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Table 23. Flaws.

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My Mi. 258 to 260. All proofed.

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Some flaws from PKDR.

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Some of my examples

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Possible flaw.

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Table 24. Mi. 261, 262

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Figure 29. Page with Mi. 261 and 262 (others dealt with below).


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Mi. 261 exists in 5 different varieties (thickness and quality) of horizontal shading lines (clouds) above Wartburg Castle. They appear in vertical rows in the sheet (no price difference). The lines of shading are in 5 different thicknesses. There are also clean and blurry impressions.


Some of my examples.

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Enlargements as I like these.

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Inflation now really picking up and soon the overprinted issues.

Figure 30. Mi. 263 to 267.(Ignore Mi. 278 for now).

Airmail set from 1923 May/June from my collection.
No Burelage on these issues.


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Table 25. Mi. 263 to 267. High CV set cancelled.

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Table 26. 1923 Mi. 268 to 273. Number in circle.

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Figure 31. My Mi. 268 to 273. (262 shows too).

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PKDR flaws for Mi. 267, 269, 270, 271.

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Table 27. Mi.274 to 276.

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My examples.


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Figure 31. My examples Mi. 275, 276 proofed.

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Now we start the period of increasing inflation, marked by rapid printing of stamps of ever increasing postage values.

Note from Michel on this time.


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Table 28. Mi 277 to 296. Note short time for issues. Overprinted WM2.


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Table 29. Flaws Mi.277 to 296

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Figure 32. My examples Mi. 277 to 296. The S in circle in pencil denotes signed copies.

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Figure 33. Some signed examples.

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Table 30. Mi. 297 to 300.

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Figure 34. My examples Mi. 297 to 300.

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Table 31. Mi. 301 to 312.

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Table 32. Flaws etc. Mi. 310 to 312

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Table 33. Unissued stamps Mi. VII and VIII

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Figure 35. My examples Mi. 301 to 312.

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Figure 36. Unissued stamps Mi. VII and VIII.

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I shall now look at variations that might be expected with examples from my collection. I shall label these V1, 2 etc. (Variant) for identification later.

V1. 208 f 60 (PKDR).

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V2. 151. M right leg base short.

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V3. 297 f 97 (PKDR).

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V4. Mi. 244 III

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V6. Authentic cancel?

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V7. Broken E Mi. 275.


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V8. 277IV?

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V9. 277?

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V10. Inverted Overprint Mi. 278 I (€28 HM, 75 NHM, €450 used)!

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V 11. 278 f 10 (PKDR). Small triangle of colour. HM €20, NHM €55, used € 225 (Mi. 278 IV).

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V12. 278 f11 (PKDR) (also broken e and thinned 8 at base (278 f 27)? f 11 HM €20, NHM €55, used € 125

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V13. Comma after Reich (unlisted).

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V14. 279 f 97. (PKDR) (Flat base to s in Tausend. HM €10, NHM €25, used € 100

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V15. Mi. 288 typical observations.


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V16. 287 f 85 (PKDR) Messed tip of 5. €10, €35, €75. (HM, NHM, Used CV).

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V17. Large hole in O. Mi. 289V?

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V18. Mi. 293 f 93 (Pencilled identification of 13 not true, but Breslau OPD identified from bar pattern) (OPD -local printings discussed later.


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V19. Missing bar lines Mi. 293.


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V20. Missing bar lines Mi. 293.

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V21. Bar lines joined at base Mi. 290.

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V22. Hole in 0 Mi. 302 (unlisted).

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V23. Mi. 305 A Flat top to 8 (unlisted).

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V24. Mi. 282. Notches in n and d of Tausend (not listed).

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V25. Mi. 331b II (listed flaw) In later scans. HM €7, NHM €20, used €180.

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V26. Mi. 331 b Damaged top to 1 (unlisted).

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V27.312 Ab f div. (PKDR). HM, €10, NHM, €40, Used €250

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V28. Massive perforation shift )mis perforation). Mi. 312.

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V29. Broken bar lines. Mi. 312.

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Stamps do tend to accumulate. Need to sort these.

V30. Mi. 309 A. Note that this is a complicated issue with flat plate printings P with 3 shades a,b,c; as well as rotary press (W) and we have the introduction of rouletting (B) that features in next see rise of inflation issues.

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V31. Differences in printings of Mi 309.

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Now we come to the regular issues with a basket design. 1923 issues and crammed into use from 9th October.

Three printing types were made. Flat plate (P), Rotary press (W) and rouletted (B).

These are described in tables below (Table 35). Basically the Flat plate, top border to bottom border is 21.5mm and side borders 17.7mm. The Rotary press is 22mm x 18mm respectively. The rouletted are easy to determine having a high characteristic perforation.
The best way of determining the sizes is to obtain a fresh 500 Tausend M stamp (Mi 313 A P). These are only Flat plate printings. Aligning this to other stamps it is relatively easy to determine whether the stamp is longer top border to bottom border, therefore a W or the same hence a P. I like the various flaws in this series and there are many. I shall deal with some and there are other threads where these are examined.


Table 34. Mi. 313 to 330.


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Table 35.

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Table 36.

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Figure 37.

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Table 38.

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Table 39. Mi. 332 to Mi.

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Figure 37. My Mi.313 to 330 page.

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Figure 38. My Mi.332 to 337 page.

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Figure 39. Enlargement of rouletted stamps from Figure 38.

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Figure 40. Enlargement of rouletted stamps from Figure 39.

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Figure 41. Enhanced close up of rouletted stamp.

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I will deal with Mi.331 later.

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More details on Basket flaws.

See also: "Basket" Printing flaws on the German Inflation era stamps on Stampboards
A few terms:
HT: Haupttype = Main Type
PE: Parallelerscheinung = parallel feature (i.e. minor variety)

Figure 42. Some PE flaws.


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The Berlin group complicated matters with PP minor variation nomenclature. The relationships PP to PE shown on added pic. There are minor minor variations of the PP's (a,b,c etc.)

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Figure 44. PE flaws 1 to 7.

PE1

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PE2

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PE3

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PE4

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PE5

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Almost forgot the Primary type example, although plenty later.

Figure 44. Primary plate flaw (Crack) in rosette.

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Thank you for posting this thread.

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The relevant information on here is most useful. :D
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John .. some lovely pieces. :mrgreen:

But be aware on threads like this with many images in near every post, to keep EACH post to about 5 or 6 images.

Or otherwise the page takes FOREVER to load on slow connections, and that means each page is 500 images if each post has ~10 images!

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Will keep to 5.

I will soon be posting the letters and post cards series that add flavour to when the inflation stamps were used an the amazing hype in costs.

Anyone with inflation stamps of interest, post them please. Also welcome discussion as this is one of the plus points of Stampboards.

I also welcome even the simplest question, they often lead to discovery.

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Excellent thread. A period in German history I find most interesting.

Are there descriptions and/or images of the plate faults above PE8 that are indicated on that PE/PP diagram?

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Will be posting some of the plate faults above PE8 soon. PP designated. Also some KT and ST flaws.

Using this reply to better show KT and some ST as taken from pages of book scanned as below (cover).

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Correction type flaws diagram from book.

One is not looking for much of a deviation from normal for KT`s on top row, but it is not so easy to validate them. Bottom row easier but blurring and variable inking of stamps does not help. Neither does the cancel obscuring bits of the basket. I will show a few later to enhance this point. .


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ST I and ST III better shown from book.

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Some pricing to illustrate scarcity.

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First some easy to identify ST flaws. Scans have superimposed the diagrams of ST as in diagrams above.

Figure 44. ST II.

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Figure 45. ST III

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Figure 46. ST IV.

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Figure 47. A more amazing flaw on issue just post the hyper inflation but interesting. Not listed (anyone help)?

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Figure 48. KT flaw? Rough looking line, variable thickness

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Figure 49. KT on post hyper inflation issue?

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Figure 50. KT?

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Figure 51. KTs? on Official DIenstmarke overprinted (dealt with soon in detail).

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Now some PP designations. I will look up the reference for PP and develop it later with more diagrams of flaws.

Figure 52. PP12 trio with various developments in bottom left hand corner. PP12 has 4 states a to d (later information on this).

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Figure 53. PP12 on post inflation issue.

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Figure 54. PP17 trio (post horn connected by lower line to dash on right).

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Of course there are many other blotches and aberrations not always catalogued.

Figure 55. Bottom left corner.Only one I have.

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Figure 56. Ink spot. I have only one of these.

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Figure 57. Gap in overprint (common enough).

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Figure 58. Nicked top of 0.

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Figure 59. Short 1 on right hand base.

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Overprint shifts.

There are many and the value depends on the extent of the shift.
One example enlarged.

Figure 60. 10 Milliarden on 100 Millionen.

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Figure 61. Range of overprint short on various stamps.

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Figure 62. Range of interesting baskets.

a. Signed 50 Milliarden 330AP

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b. Signed as false cancel (what a pity) 50 Milliarden AP (high CV for genuine used).

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c. Mi. 329 BP 20 Milliarden

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d. Signed 2 Milliarden BP

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e. Mi. 327 BP 5 Milliarden

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f. Used Mi. 335 if genuine cancel CV €130!

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g. Mi. 336 BP

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h. Mi. 319 BP used. (€400 if genuine cancel)!

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OFFICIAL POSTAGE STAMPS

Official stamps from 1920. These do appear on Inflation era letters and should be examined.

Table 40. Mi. 16 to 33.

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Table 41. Mi. 34 to 51.


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Table 42. Mi. 52 to 56.

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Table 43. Mi. 57 to 64.


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Table 44. Mi. 65 to 68.

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Table 45. Mi. 69 to 74.

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Table 46. Mi. 75 to 88.

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Table 47. Mi. 89 to 98.

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Table 48. Mi. 99 to 104.

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Table 49. Flaws on basket issues.

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Now I shall put in my pages showing the Official stamps.

Figure 63a.


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Figure 63b.

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Figure 63 c.

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Figure 63 d.


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Enlarged Official pages.

Figure 64a.

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Figure 65b.

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Figure 65 c.

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Figure 65 d.

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Figure 65 e.

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Figure 65 f.

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Figure 65 g.

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Figure 65 h.

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Figure 65 i.

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Figure 65 j.

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PKDR pages for flaws on Dienstmarke issues.

Figure 66.

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Figure 67.

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No figure 68. (deleted duplicated 67).


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Figure 70. PKDR 94 f 25

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Figure 71. HT examples.

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Figure 72. Just post inflation, had to show this. Note Lilac rose with very large break.

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Not forgetting the Mi. 331b I think.

Figure 73.

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Figure 74. Flaws in Mi. 331. (PKDR)

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