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I have not seen a specific forum thread for discussing Christmas Stamps, Covers etc. So hope it's OK to start one.

I am well under way with my collection of Great Britain issues starting with the 1966 set, I have also obtained the Canada 1898 issue in two shades which I am very happy with, but would like to know the SG numbers for them if anyone can help please.

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Based on my Unitrade I would say they are #86 and #85 with Scott numbers. I do not have good enough SG catalogue for Canada to tell their numbers in SG system.

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Geordie Boy,

It looks like SG 167 and 166.
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Thanks Kimmo.

Looking for SG numbers to keep things simple for now. :)

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AMark wrote:Geordie Boy,

It looks like SG 167 and 166.
Amark, thank you I will use those cat. numbers.

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Geordie Boy wrote:Thanks Kimmo.

Looking for SG numbers to keep things simple for now. :)
I understand. However, it may help others to provide you with the SG numbers, and if the other catalogue is not detailed enough (which it is in this case) you may still use them as secondary numbers.

Anyway, good that Mark was able to help you (I'm sure he did not need my Unitrade numbers).

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PS. Unitrade lists four shades of this stamp.

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I have a bit of a Canadian Christmas collection. Currently I'm using approvals to fill in the blanks. I'm collecting mint plate blocks and used singles. Anything pre-dating 1978 is in my Lighthouse album. I go back to the 1950s.

Here's some of the blocks. :) Don't want to post too many...not sure the limit here on SB.

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They look great hs2oca, I am not sure what plate blocks are to be honest?

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Geordie Boy wrote:They look great hs2oca, I am not sure what plate blocks are to be honest?
Plate blocks are corner blocks with inscriptions in the margins. Also known as inscription blocks in Canada. Originally they had the number of the sheet of stamps on them. But in Canada, they do not anymore. The inscription usually includes what plate number was used, but not the actual sheet number. Some issues of stamps can have 2 or 3 (or more) different plates made to print all the stamps required by the post office for use.

Here's a few used singles. Not a very filled out collection. These are just what I collected off Christmas cards and packages coming in the house over the years... The 1979 35 cent is a space filler that needs to be replaced with a decent stamp when I buy it.

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Here's another few blocks... Please forgive the poor scan/photo quality. :( I'm just learning how to do it and it seems to take a long time to get something decent from my equipment.

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Those stamps look great, and some I will add to my future wants list. :)

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Thanks. I'm hoping to someday add those stamps you posted! But it will be a while. I'm working backwards and forwards from about 1977...where my Lighthouse album ends. :) If you're collecting used singles let me know what you need. I probably have a few extras around here somewhere! As in...lots... :)

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I see a stamp fell off this page! Wonder where it got to...

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Thank you so much I will. :D

Here are a few of my recent purchases (not my scans):

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A few more:

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Nice stamps! :)

Here's a few more blocks... :)

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I really need to figure out a better way to display my blocks, or at least put them in the stock pages neatly. :? I think I'll do a search and see what others are doing...

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I like the idea of collecting Christmas Stamps (though I don't yet). However, I must admit Geordie Boy, you have shown the two stamps I dislike the most, ever! (Wise Man and Snow Man).They were, I believe printed after the Post Office did a country wide competition and it was won by two schoolchildren which makes me feel a bit guilty about complaining. If memory serves me right there was quite a bit of discussion in the press about why the stamps were ever chosen, so I'm not alone in my dislike (well before the Web was invented of course).
Anyway, sorry folks, just had to get that off my chest. :)

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Here's two types of item at the outer fringes of Christmas stamp collecting, meters and vintage letter seals.

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Both can be swapped for U.S. discount postage; email me.

I have also petitioned the CSAC several times for a Christmas stamp with the legend, "Wise men still seek Him," but no response; I even have a design.

The stamp shows a hillside in Palestine. In the background is the Messiah, addressing a crowd below. Others are approaching the crowd to listen. In the foreground, there are three men. One is pointing toward the meeting, the other two look a bit reluctant and uncertain. Between background and foreground is a smiling woman, striding toward the three men. I can't even draw a stick man, so my design remains this text paragraph.

And this particular design and subject matter, of course, represent a highly appropriate opportunity to add the customary "Forever" on U.S. stamps. :)

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Hi again Baz, we met on another thread, your Christmas Collection has a huge scope! Are you looking at all countries world wide or limiting to GB and a few others ?

Lots of scope here for swaps or freebies from other boarders. I have some GB back numbers if you can let me know what you are looking for. Also I can probably do a number of USA.

Doug mentioned Metermarks as a side line, a number of GB first day covers for Christmas have " BETHLEHEM" ( Wales ) as a postmark. I have a number of GB firstday covers available.

Another sideline would be Christmas seals. many can be picked up cheaply in collections on album pages at stamp fairs.

The world's first official Christmas seals to be sold through the post office were produced in Denmark in 1904 and by 1906 enough money had been raised to build a Children's TB sanatorium.

here is one of the 1904 seals on a postcard

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The Idea was proposed by a Danish Postmaster Einar Holboll who is paid a tribute by the French on this label in 1954 for the 50th anniversary of Christmas TB stamps:

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There's a mammoth looseleaf compendium called "Green's Catalog," that lists Christmas seals back to 1904, worldwide. I have a copy and will look up seals for SB members. I don't know if it's still in print, but it's the "Bible" of seals. It even gets into booklets, window posters, and progressive color proofs.

John Denune, a long-time friend of mine, lives about 20 miles east. He's one of the largest Christmas seal dealers (along with his son) and exhibitors in the U.S. See his website:

http://www.christmasseals.net

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Hello again Alex, I am concentrating on GB including the Channel Islands issues for now and I am complete for the British mainland Christmas issues up to and including 1981. So anything after that would be most welcome. Or Channel Island Christmas issues. :D
Being a newbie I am not sure what seals are to be honest but that picture you posted looked gorgeous of the Denmark 1904 seal. :oops: :oops:

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Christmas seals are labels sold for charity around Christmas time to be added to card envelopes ( not necessarily to seal the envelope) just a decoration.

They have no postage value and as such come into the category " CINDERELLAS" or " Back of the Book" items

The point here about the Danish ones is that they are actually sold via the Danish Post Office so have a sort of semi- official quality and are actually listed in the standard Danish catalogues.

Some other countries eg Scandinavia also have semi official ones but many such as in Dougs catalogue will be privately produced .
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I wish there was a thank you button on these forums.

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Geordie Boy
I've a bag of clipped GB recent self-adhesive Christmas issues here gathering dust in my junk box. Plenty of duplication but it's got your name on it if you want it.

I've sent you an email, if interested respond with your address and I'll send them over.
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Your to kind, I have emailed you. :D

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A tip for everybody -- BEWARE of soaking Christmas seals or any other stamps off red or green "Christmas card" envelopes or envelope corners.

Many times, the dye will run, coloring the soaking water (especially if hot) and ruining all the stamps in the pan, turning their white paper pink or blue.

If they must be soaked, soak them one at a time, in ice water, with plenty of salt added (to stabilize the dye). Remove them as quickly as you can. Rinse in a pan of hot water.

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My latest arrivals:

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I want to thank forum member The Royal County for the lovely stamps, they are very much appreciated. :D :D

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Does anyone know of anywhere I can pick up some items that were post marked on Christmas Day?

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They will have to be early 20th century Baz, as Christmas day has long been a public holiday in UK and mail has not ben cancelled on that date for many years,
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vikingeck wrote:They will have to be early 20th century Baz, as Christmas day has long been a public holiday in UK and mail has not ben cancelled on that date for many years,
Found a couple of items from the UK (early 20th century) but quite expensive. :shock:

Here is one I found to the Captain of the Princess Margret (1915):

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He wants £30 for it, is it worth it?

Also just found this limited edition (500) Isle Of Man/Germany issue cancelled 25th December 2014?

https://www.iompost.com/stamps-coins/product/world-war-i-chr ... oin-cover/

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No, it's not worth £1, much less £30...

The U.S. cancelled mail on Christmas Day for much of the 19th Century, no huge premium that I've ever seen, just a novelty. But a whole album full would be (dare I say it?) awesome. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Detractors will say, "Aw, some of them were cancelled the next morning..."

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Thanks Doug.

Doug I would have thought that postage in the UK cancelled on Christmas Day would be quite rare and collectable?

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Member "Tallanent" knows this subject forward and backward -- get his input for Christmas usages and valuations, plus he can display plenty of examples.

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doug2222usa wrote:Member "Tallanent" knows this subject forward and backward -- get his input for Christmas usages and valuations, plus he can display plenty of examples.
Just emailed him, thanks Doug. :)

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Can anyone give there opinion as to which country has consistently produced the best Christmas issues over the years? :)

Or if not, maybe post a pic of a particular issue from any country that they consider the best.

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That depends so much on what one likes. One likes nativity topic. Other Santa. Someone wants the atmosphere of childhood Christmas. Or best joke or most artistic ones. For myself I like the Christmas stamps show the original meaning of Christmas. So, what are you looking for, I think you didn't want to make a gallup but want to know where to expand after UK and Channel islands. Could you be more specific on what are you looking for and it will be easier to help you.

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I think the atmosphere of a childhood/traditional/Dickensian Christmas would be good.

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I think many (but not all) of the Finnish Christmas stamps (and Christmas seals) fall into that category. But with the latest issues (since 2000 or so) it is more and more common to have Santas and similar stamps.

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Thanks Kimmo, I will look at them. :D

Can you kindly post any pictures of nice examples.

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Geordie Boy wrote:A few more:

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Does anybody know anything about the children who designed these stamps?

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with any luck Bill , neither child was ever allowed to design anything else!


That 3d value is absolutely one of the worst stamps ever issued by GB. I makes me cringe with shame every time I find one. Only its mother could love it !
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Geordie Boy wrote:I think the atmosphere of a childhood/traditional/Dickensian Christmas would be good.
German Christmas stamps have always been strong on tradition. Some years are better than others (2014 was not so great) but in general I find them to be very good.

I am not at home at the moment so can't scan any. However German Wikipedia has images at these addresses:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weihnachtsmarken_der_Deutschen_Bundespost

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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weihnachtsmarken_der_Bundesrepublik_Deutschland

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Lovely stamps chris thank you, but i (after collecting GB & CI) will i think be moving away from the religious examples purely to minimise the shear volume of Christmas issues. But i have no doubt there will be some crossover between the two. :)

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with any luck Bill , neither child was ever allowed to design anything else!


That 3d value is absolutely one of the worst stamps ever issued by GB. I makes me cringe with shame every time I find one. Only its mother could love it !
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this, I was starting to feel a bit of a Scrooge!

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Don't overlook the possibility that the children snuck into the pantry and wolfed down a tin of Ready-Spready™ cake frosting, thinking one cannot be creative without a stentorian sugar buzz...

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doug2222usa wrote:Don't overlook the possibility that the children snuck into the pantry and wolfed down a tin of Ready-Spready™ cake frosting, thinking one cannot be creative without a stentorian sugar buzz...
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Here are some of my favorite ones from Finland. Images are from Stampworld.

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My mother put together a small collection in the 1960's / 70's of GB and Commonwealth Christmas stamps. It stops in the early 1970's. The first thing I notice is that most of the CW did not get started until later in the 1960's. Also,

- Most are based are based on religious paintings or "stained glass window effect" drawings or modern art interpretations of the Mother & Child. Boring, in fact.

- Very few indeed are non-religious. There is a 4 stamp set from 1970 from Dominica based on A Christmas Carol". Guyana has parrots and other non-related items.

- Most are worth 10p to 40p each or 50p-60p the set .... i.e. nothing

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Hi Britcollector, I suppose one mans boring is another's delight and as the post above yours shows there are many issues from around the world that are far from boring.

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In the UK over the last 30 or so years there has been some controversy over the view that Christmas might have been hi-jacked by those who want to remove all 'religious' aspects when it comes to Christmas cards or store advertising.
I know politicians have been accused of sticking to 'safe' illustrations such as robins etc for the many thousands they send out to party members rather than the birth of Jesus etc.
I wonder if those of you who collect Christmas stamps have been aware of the various postal authorities doing this?

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