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Re: 1917 Pinang, Melayu–Chennai Chettiyar Cover

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carmel wrote: Hi,

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An area which I know nothing about, but the cover was attractive, and the censor mark was a bonus ...

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Postmarks:

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1. Both the postmarks are the same Proud type D55 (ex-D39) datestamps, recorded used by Proud from Feb 3,1917 to May 31,1922.

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2. This datestamp of Chennai GPO (est. June 1,1786) here was used as a receiving mark but it had multifarious use as transit mark, dispatch mark and cancelation.

This datestamp type with movable hour slugs was introduced in 1910 to selected Head POs/Sub POs which were not allotted datestamps with district name.

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3. The Chennai delivery datestamp type with movable hour slugs was introduced in 1910
to selected Head POs/Sub POs having 3 or more deliveries in a day.

Censor Mark:

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The circular PASSED BY CENSOR handstamp in violet is Baker type MH7 censor mark of Chennai Censor Station, which was used in 1916–17 on both incoming and outgoing as well as transit mail.

Postal Rate: From Oct 1,1907 to Jan 15,1922, the suraface rate from Straits Settlements to India was 4c per 28.35gm (1oz), which was paid by Straits Settlements 1913 4c SG 197.

It was common practice among Indians to affix the stamps over the sealed envelope flap to deter opening the envelope and stealing of the contents during transit.

Destination: Coral Merchant Street in Muttiyalpettai area of Chennai was a bustling center of the Nattukkottai Chettiyar community.

The street had (and still has) several ornate mansions built by the Chettiyars.

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Re: Baker Type MH7 Censor Mark of Chennai CS

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Here is an example of Baker type MH7 censor mark of Chennai CS on a 1916 Pinang, SS–Kilasevalpatti Chettiyar cover (Robert Gray Coll.).
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Re: Baker Type MH6 Censor Mark of Chennai CS

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carmel wrote: Hi,

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This censor mark is different from the previous Passed By Censor mark, and does not indicate where the cover was censored.
I do not have access to the literature which would enable me to determine the answer to this question.

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The circular PASSED BY CENSOR No.11 handstamp in violet is Baker type MH6 censor mark of Chennai Censor Station, which was used in 1915–16 only on incoming mail.

Ref. A Catalog of Indian Censorship 1914–1920
Alan Baker.
Chavril Press, Obar Neithich, Scotland 1994
Madras; p.16

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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carmel wrote: Is there a good catalog for Belgian Congo and the successor states, splinter states, etc. in English, and if not in English, in some other language which will have such information?
Hi Carmel,

Your best bet is probably Part 2 of "OBP-COB Official Belgium Stamp Catalogue 2020" which deals with the Belgian colonies and ex-colonies.

This is in Flemish/Dutch and French.
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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Thank you Joy.

I now have another book to add to my library.

I have googled the Chettiyars and it makes for interesting reading. The historic mansions that they built are impressive.

Do you know if the Madras delivery cancel was DELI(very) or DEL(iver)Y or something else entirely?

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Thanks Nigel.

I have heard of this catalog before, but Flemish/Dutch and French are a tough proposition for me.

This is not something I would buy without a look at the contents, to try and figure out if I could work with these languages given the level of detail and the illustrations.

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Re: British India Delivery Postmark

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carmel wrote: Hi,
Do you know if the Madras delivery cancel was DELI(very) or DEL(iver)Y or something else entirely?

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It is always DELY.

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Mods, I stand corrected, the MADRAS delivery CDSs should be MADRAS DELY rather than MADRAS DELI

Kindly correct this error and change DELI to DELY in my three previous posts (items #76, 77 and 78).

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Item #79 is an airmail cover sent from Libya in 1993 to the U.S..

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The cover states that it was sent from the Libyan Philatelic Service, yet the address has been hidden with a black marker.

It is franked with five stamps, from right to left:

Two 70 dh stamps (Scott 1203c (SG 1535) and Scott 1203h (SG1546)) from the 15 July 1984 National Soccer Championships issue.

One 50 dh stamp (Scott 1268h, SG 1729) from the 15 July 1985 Mushrooms issue.

One 200 dh stamp (Scott 1460, SG 2108) from the 1 October 1992 Oasis' issue.

One 50 dh stamp (Scott 1439, SG 2070) from the Tripoli International Fair issue.

Here is a close up of the group of stamps:

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The stamps are tied to the cover by three blurry CDSs.

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I cannot decipher the cancels, except for the date, which is 12 - 1 - 93. Perhaps someone who can read Arabic will have better results.

The back of the cover is puzzling. The return address has been hidden with a black marker.

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Also there are three violet hand stamps which are a mystery. Perhaps these are censor marks, perhaps something else.

The first hand stamp looks like "ES" or maybe "E5" within a circle.

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The second hand stamp is too blurry for me.

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The third hand stamp is "K6" within a barely discernible circle.

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What are these marks? First time I've seen such marks. Were they added in Libya or in the US?

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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carmel wrote:The stamps are tied to the cover by three blurry CDSs.

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I cannot decipher the cancels, except for the date, which is 12 - 1 - 93. Perhaps someone who can read Arabic will have better results
Hi, I can read the first word of the postmark. It reads "Tarablus" (Tripoli طرابلس)

The Arabic word on the cover's bottom reads "America".

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Thanks Eli.

You've got eagle eyes, that's for sure.

It does seem logical that the Philatelic Service was located in the capital, Tripoli.

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Item #80 is a bit of a mystery.

Joint Belgium and Switzerland Cover
Joint Belgium and Switzerland Cover

It is a cover franked with one Switzerland military stamp (Flight Group 14?) on the upper left corner and one Belgium semi-postal stamp Scott B258 (SG 870) 40c+5c Lierre bright red violet from the Belfries set, issued on December 1st 1939, on the upper right corner.

Here is a close up of the stamps:

Switzerland Military Stamp
Switzerland Military Stamp
Scott Switzerland B258 (SG 870)
Scott Switzerland B258 (SG 870)

The Swiss military stamp (I've also seen them described as Swiss soldier stamps) is tied to the cover by a Circular Cancel which reads: "FLIEGER KP. Felpost" surrounding a numeral "14":

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The Belgian stamp is tied to the cover by two 24 IV 1940 POSTES MILITAIRES BELGIQUES BELGIE LEGERPOSTERIJ CDSs:
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Nothing on the back of the cover

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The cover also has a typewritten bi-color (red and black) one line inscription: "Armee belge - Armee Suisse"

I believe that this could have been some kind of commemorative cover, perhaps for a joint exercise or course, or an official visit. Oddly enough, the cancels are dated 24 April 1940. The Germans invaded Belgium on the 10th of May 1940 and Belgium surrendered on 19th of May 1940, so this cover was issued just a short time prior to the invasion.

I could not find any information on Monsieur Nawratil from Fribourg.

Any information is appreciated.

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Another curious fact regarding Item #80.

It was mailed to me by registered mail with Deutsche Post, on April 5th 2019. After waiting for a long time for the letter to arrive, I was refunded the purchase price, I believe around June 2019.

Then, the registered letter arrived in my mailbox on the 6th of May 2020.

I informed the vendor and repaid him for the order, and inquired if, perhaps, the letter had been returned to him and had been re-sent by him to me.

Here is his reply:

"thank you for the message. The tracking number is the original one which was picked up here on April 5th 2019 by the German post so the letter effectively has been en route for more than a year, quite a special letter."

A special letter indeed.

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Item #81 is a set of two Mini Sheets from Rwanda.

They are Rwanda Scott 622-3 (SG MS639a-b) issued in 17.3.1975 as part of the 1975 Antelopes set.

Rwanda Scott 622 (SG MS639a) 40 fr Impalas Mini Sheet
Rwanda Scott 622 (SG MS639a) 40 fr Impalas Mini Sheet

Rwanda Scott 623 (MS639b) 60 fr Greater Kudu Mini Sheet
Rwanda Scott 623 (MS639b) 60 fr Greater Kudu Mini Sheet

Scott 622 (SG MS639a) has a single 40 fr Impalas stamp and Scott 623 (MS639b) has a single 60 fr Greater Kudu stamp.

I purchased them because IMHO they are really attractive, almost like miniature works of art.

For some reason these mini sheets have a high catalogue value. A Scott catalogue value of USD 50 and an SG catalogue value of GBP 40, for the pair in MNH condition.

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Item #82 is another set of two Mini Sheets from Rwanda. This time with a bird theme.

They are Rwanda Scott 660-1 (SG MS668a-b) issued in 20.6.75 as part of the 1975 African Birds set.

Rwanda Scott 660 (SG MS668a) has a single 40 fr Flamingos Mini Sheet
Rwanda Scott 660 (SG MS668a) has a single 40 fr Flamingos Mini Sheet

Rwanda Scott 661 (MS668b) has a single 60 fr Crowned Cranes Mini Sheet
Rwanda Scott 661 (MS668b) has a single 60 fr Crowned Cranes Mini Sheet

Rwanda Scott 660 (SG MS668a) has a single 40 fr Flamingos stamp and Rwanda Scott 661 (MS668b) has a single 60 fr Crowned Cranes stamp.

Love those cranes.

Again, these mini sheets have a high catalogue value. A Scott catalogue value of USD 40 and an SG catalogue value of GBP 29, for the pair in MNH condition. The SG catalogue referred to here and in the previous post is the North-East Africa catalogue 1st Edition (2013).

I am curious as to the catalogue values of these mini sheets and the pair of mini sheets in item #81. Are they due to low printing runs, or is it the topics? Perhaps some other reason. Sadly, Scott and SG do not list amounts printed. What would be the market value of these mini sheets?

Anyway, I am pleased with my antelopes and African birds.

I've just noticed that the date on the slip of paper by the Crowned Cranes MS in the scan is incorrect, ignore it.

Cheers,

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Item #84 is a registered air mail cover sent from Lodz, Poland to Brussels, Belgium in 9.6.47.

Registered air mail cover sent from Lodz, Poland to Brussels, Belgium in 9.6.47.
Registered air mail cover sent from Lodz, Poland to Brussels, Belgium in 9.6.47.

The cover is franked with a single imperforate 5 Zloty Bedzin Castle stamp (Scott 392 SG 568) and a vertical pair of imperforate 10 Zloty Lanckrona Castle stamps (Scott 395 SG 570), all issued on September 1, 1946.

SG has different issue dates, 13.8.46 for the 5 Zloty stamp (assuming that I have correctly identified it as SG 568 rater than SG 568a) and 16.12.46 for the 10 Zloty stamp.

The cover is cancelled with four LODZ 10 -9.6.47.-8 *ł* CDSs. I am uncertain that this actually is the letter between the stars, and any help in identifying it will be appreciated. I have learnt from my thread on Polish cancels, this is a cancel from post office 10 in the city of Lodz.

Here is a closeup of the cancel:

LODZ 10 -9.6.47.-8 CDS
LODZ 10 -9.6.47.-8 CDS

Nothing interesting on the back of the cover.

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I found this cover to be interesting because of the "Kontrola dewizowa / przeprowadzona" hand stamp (which translates to: foreign exchange control carried out) on the front of the cover, indicating that it had passed currency control/customs censorship.

Polish "Kontrola dewizowa przeprowadzona" currency control hand stamp
Polish "Kontrola dewizowa przeprowadzona" currency control hand stamp

First such hand stamp I've seen so far.

Perhaps this should not be called a censor mark, as I am uncertain if this action qualifies as censorship. Perhaps a customs mark?

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Carmel,I have just found this thread. Some lovely Rawanda animal and bird miniature sheets that deserve wider exposure. Keep up the good work. I hope that there is a lot more to come. I look forward to watching this thread.
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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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carmel wrote:
16 Jul 2020 05:51
Hi,

Item #84 is a registered air mail cover sent from Lodz, Poland to Brussels, Belgium in 9.6.47.

I found this cover to be interesting because of the "Kontrola dewizowa / przeprowadzona" hand stamp (which translates to: foreign exchange control carried out) on the front of the cover, indicating that it had passed currency control/customs censorship.

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First such hand stamp I've seen so far.

Perhaps this should not be called a censor mark, as I am uncertain if this action qualifies as censorship. Perhaps a customs mark?

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Most collectors would probably not consider this a "censor mark" but, of course, they can still be interesting to collect!

Here are a few examples of Poland censor marks from the period (or slightly earlier):

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Having said the above here is a quote from europhil (RIP) and I guess he knew what he was talking about!

"Another censor type to look out for is Currency Censorship -
"Kontrole Dewizowa Przeprowadizona" - sometimes handwritten
and/or abbreviated."

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi Waffle,

Glad you like the thread.

I'll definitely continue adding to it.

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi OldDuffer1,

I assume that the Polish censor marks on the last two covers are the numbers hand stamped on the covers.

Odd that there is no tape for resealing the covers.

Anyway, I see that the question of whether the "Kontrola dewizowa / przeprowadzona" hand stamp is a censor mark or not is still open.

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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carmel wrote:
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Hi OldDuffer1,

I assume that the Polish censor marks on the last two covers are the numbers hand stamped on the covers.

Odd that there is no tape for resealing the covers.

Anyway, I see that the question of whether the "Kontrola dewizowa / przeprowadzona" hand stamp is a censor mark or not is still open.

Cheers,

Carmel
Yes, the one in the circle is apparently "Type1" and the numbers alone "Type2". Also there is apparently, amongst those in the know, a debate as to whether this should be considered "Military Censorship" or "Civil Censorship"!

The lack of tape or signs of opening presumably means that these were "passed unexamined".

As far as what is called a "censor mark" -there isn't any definition- I guess it depends on what you collect!

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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What is considered a censored cover and what is considered censorship of the mail is difficult to define.

I noticed that I accidentally jumped from item #82 to #84, so this item shall be item#83, and then I'll move on to item #85.

Item #83 is a cover sent from Brussels, Belgium to Lumberg, Netherlands in 1945.

It is another example of economic censorship of the mail, customs control.

cover sent from Brussels, Belgium to Lumberg, Netherlands in 1945
cover sent from Brussels, Belgium to Lumberg, Netherlands in 1945

The cover is franked with a horizontal pair of the 1 Fr Lion Rampant stamps (Scott 328 SG 1068A) issued 10.11.1944.

The stamps are tied to the cover by a 15-16 5 V 1945 4 BRUXELLES 4 BRUSSEL CDS. Here is a close up of the cancel:

A horizontal pair of the 1 Fr Lion Rampant stamps (Scott 328 SG 1068A) issued 10.11.1944 tied to the cover by a 15-16 5 V 1945 4 BRUXELLES 4 BRUSSEL CDS
A horizontal pair of the 1 Fr Lion Rampant stamps (Scott 328 SG 1068A) issued 10.11.1944 tied to the cover by a 15-16 5 V 1945 4 BRUXELLES 4 BRUSSEL CDS

There is also a slogan cancel to the left of the stamps:

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The cover has been opened and resealed with a customs control tape on the left side. The controller tied the tape to the cover with his signature and a round black hand stamp censor mark with the number 576 within a circle.

Here is a close up of the tape, the signature and the hand stamp, rotated for a better view:

Belgian Customs Control Tape
Belgian Customs Control Tape

I am hoping some board members can give us more information on this item.

The back of the cover shows the rest of the tape and another "576" hand stamp.

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I wonder what they were looking for. Not much would fit into a small size cover like this.


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Hi,

Item #85 is a front from a cover mailed in 1956 from Melbourne, Australia to Moe, Australia. It is a very "busy" front.

1956 Cover Front Mailed From Melbourne, Australia to Moe, Australia
1956 Cover Front Mailed From Melbourne, Australia to Moe, Australia

What first caught my eye was the "Pointing Finger" hand stamp. Add the MOE CDS, and yes I'm thinking Moe, Larry and Curly, and it was irresistible.

The cover was sent by the Netherlands consulate in Melbourne. It was franked with a brown red 6 1/2 d Queen Elizabeth definitive. I believe it to be Australia SG 263a (Scott ) since it was issued on 23.6.54 and the date on the Melbourne CDS is 21 MCH 1956, while SG 262b (Scott 296) was issued on 9.1956. Issue dates are as listed in SG Australia.

A close up of the stamp:

Australia SG 263a (Scott 258B)  6 1/2 d Queen Elizabeth Definitive
Australia SG 263a (Scott 258B) 6 1/2 d Queen Elizabeth Definitive

There is one crisp MELBOURNE 21 MCH 1956 VIC. AUST. CDS and a two line slogan cancel which reads: "PREVENT / BUSH FIRES".

MELBOURNE 21 MCH 1956 VIC. AUST. CDS
MELBOURNE 21 MCH 1956 VIC. AUST. CDS
Slogan Cancel: "PREVENT / BUSH FIRES"
Slogan Cancel: "PREVENT / BUSH FIRES"

I've located the slogan cancel on pages 116-119 in Occleshaw's Australian Slogan Cancellations 1917-1990 Volume 2, but was unable to decide which variety it is.

Apparently, the cover arrived at Moe, but the recipient was unknown to the postal service. A purple hand stamp was applied, reading "UNKNOWN BY POSTMEN / MOE" and with room for postmen 1 through five to sign and affirm that indeed, the recipient was unknown to them. I believe that there are four mailmen signatures.

UNKNOWN BY POSTMEN / MOE" Hand Stamp
UNKNOWN BY POSTMEN / MOE" Hand Stamp

There is also a handwritten notation stating: "Address Not Here" with an arrow pointing at the address typed on the cover.

Handwritten Notation: "Address Not Here"
Handwritten Notation: "Address Not Here"

If this was not enough, there is a purple one line hand stamp stating: "ADDRESSEE UNKNOWN AT MOE" and an additional two line boxed purple hand stamp stating: "UNCLAIMED AT / MOE".


Hand stamp: "ADDRESSEE UNKNOWN AT MOE"
Hand stamp: "ADDRESSEE UNKNOWN AT MOE"
Hand stamp: "UNCLAIMED AT / MOE"
Hand stamp: "UNCLAIMED AT / MOE"

And if that was not enough, there is also a handwritten inscription in red ink which states: "Unknown at" with an arrow leading to the typed address.


Handwritten Inscription In Red Ink Which states: "Unknown at"
Handwritten Inscription In Red Ink Which states: "Unknown at"

It seems that being a letter from the Netherlands consulate required special efforts.


Then there is the "Pointing Finger" purple hand stamp with a two line inscription: "UNCLAIMED /RETURN TO SENDER"

"Pointing Finger" Purple Hand Stamp With A Two Line Inscription: "UNCLAIMED /RETURN TO SENDER"
"Pointing Finger" Purple Hand Stamp With A Two Line Inscription: "UNCLAIMED /RETURN TO SENDER"

The cover was cancelled with two MOE 28 MAR 1956 VIC. AUST. CDSs and sent back to the Netherlands consulate in Melbourne.


MOE 28 MAR 1956 VIC. AUST. CDS
MOE 28 MAR 1956 VIC. AUST. CDS

Finally, upon arrival at the consulate it was stamped with a receiving mark at the consulate dated 24 APR 1956.

Melbourne Netherlands Consulate Receiving Mark Dated 24 APR 1956
Melbourne Netherlands Consulate Receiving Mark Dated 24 APR 1956

And so after a bit more than a month the cover concluded its journey back where it originated. Only the front remains, but an interesting item non the less.

Wikipedia has this to say about Moe, Australia: "Moe is a town in the Latrobe Valley in the Gippsland region of Victoria, Australia. ... At June 2018, Moe had an estimated urban population of 16,812 ... Moe was originally known as The Mowie, then Little Moi. The town's name is believed to derive from a Kurnai (local Indigenous) word meaning "swamp land"."

Sadly, no connection with Moe, Larry and Curly.

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Hi,

Item #86 is a cover sent by army mail from Egypt to Haifa in the then Mandate of Palestine on August 6, 1945.

Cover Sent By Army Mail From Egypt To The Then Mandate Of Palestine in August 1945
Cover Sent By Army Mail From Egypt To The Then Mandate Of Palestine in August 1945

It is interesting in that, except for the initials "O.A.S." (On Army Service) and the underlined "Palestine", all the other hand written details on the cover are in Hebrew. Makes one wonder who in the British army post handled the cover and how was the address recognized. This is the only WWII British army cover in my collection which is not in English.

The cover is franked with a single -6-AU-45 EGYPT 44 POSTAGE PREPAID CDS.

-6-AU-45 EGYPT 44 POSTAGE PREPAID CDS
-6-AU-45 EGYPT 44 POSTAGE PREPAID CDS

There are two censor marks. A round purple censor hand stamp: "DEPUTY CHIEF FIELD CENSOR" within double ring with a crown in the center.

Censor Mark: "DEPUTY CHIEF FIELD CENSOR" Within Double Ring With A Crown In The Center
Censor Mark: "DEPUTY CHIEF FIELD CENSOR" Within Double Ring With A Crown In The Center

A purple censor four line hand stamp: "PASSED by / CENSOR / No / 5984" within shield below crown.

Censor Mark: "PASSED by / CENSOR / No / 5984" Within Shield Below Crown
Censor Mark: "PASSED by / CENSOR / No / 5984" Within Shield Below Crown

The back of the cover has additional markings.

Back of the Egypt to Haifa, Palestine August 1945 Army Cover
Back of the Egypt to Haifa, Palestine August 1945 Army Cover

Two partial 7 AU 45 EGYPT * POSTAGE PREPAID CDSs, together with a slogan cancel which has been applied upside down relative to the CDSs.


7 AU 45 EGYPT * POSTAGE PREPAID CDS
7 AU 45 EGYPT * POSTAGE PREPAID CDS

Slogan Cancel
Slogan Cancel

I hope someone will be able to provide more information about this slogan cancel. Looks like cog wheels and an inscription of which I've only been able to figure out a small portion "LEND".

Finally, a 10 AU 45 FIELD POST OFFICE 233 CDS which may be the receiving post office in Palestine.

10 AU 45 FIELD POST OFFICE 233 CDS
10 AU 45 FIELD POST OFFICE 233 CDS

Any information is appreciated.

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Item #87 is a cover sent in 1958 from Yaoundé, Cameroun (then a French colony) to Strasbourg, France.

A cover sent in 1958 from Yaoundé, Cameroun (then a French colony) to Strasbourg, France
A cover sent in 1958 from Yaoundé, Cameroun (then a French colony) to Strasbourg, France

The cover is franked with four stamps. Two single black 2Fr Bowman stamps (Cameroun Scott 313, SG 241, Maury 248) from the definitive series of 1946-50. Two single bluish violet, orange and bright purple 8Fr Porters Carrying Bananas stamps (Cameroun Scott 323, SG 257, Maury 260) part of the set issued 1953-55.

Two 2Fr Bowman stamps (Cameroun Scott 313, SG 241, Maury 248) and two 8Fr Porters Carrying Bananas stamps (Cameroun Scott 323, SG 257, Maury 260)
Two 2Fr Bowman stamps (Cameroun Scott 313, SG 241, Maury 248) and two 8Fr Porters Carrying Bananas stamps (Cameroun Scott 323, SG 257, Maury 260)

Maury lists a variety of the 2Fr stamp which is described as: "olive fcé au lieu de gris-vert (2 éne tir)" (my tentative translation: "dark olive instead of gray-green (2nd printing)") no idea if the stamps on the cover match this variety.

The cover has two 12 VI.58. YAOUNDE CAMEROUN CDSs.

12 VI.58.  YAOUNDE CAMEROUN CDSs
12 VI.58. YAOUNDE CAMEROUN CDSs

There is a hand written notation in the upper left hand corner of the cover: "Tres Urgente". However there are no airmail or priority markings on the cover.

Looking at the back of the cover reveals some interesting information.

Back of the cover sent in 1958 from Yaoundé, Cameroun (then a French colony) to Strasbourg, France
Back of the cover sent in 1958 from Yaoundé, Cameroun (then a French colony) to Strasbourg, France


The cover is back stamped with one 14 – 6 1958 STRASBOURG-MEINAU BAS-RHIN CDS

14 – 6 1958 STRASBOURG-MEINAU BAS-RHIN CDS
14 – 6 1958 STRASBOURG-MEINAU BAS-RHIN CDS

Which means that the journey from Yaoundé, Cameroun to Strasbourg, France began on 12.VI 1958 and ended on 14.6 1958 - two days in all. "Tres Urgente" indeed.

Which raises the question, what did the 20FR rate cover? Airmail, priority, both of them, something additional, or some other special delivery rate? I am hoping someone with this knowledge will share it with us.

Cheers,

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Re: 1945 Al Khatatbah–Ḥefa O.A.S. Cover

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Hi,

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Any information is appreciated.

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This cover was sent from Al Khatatbah, Misr.

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Re: Daynes Type FC300 Deputy Chief Field Censor Mark

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This is Daynes type FC300 DEPUTY CHIEF FIELD CENSOR triple-circular forces censor stamp in violet, which was extensively used at all three levels of Field, Unit and Base Censors.

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Re: Daynes Type A600/FPHS Type A6/ESC Type A3 Censor Mark

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This is Daynes type A600/FPHS type A6/ESC type A3 PASSED BY CENSOR 5984 peltate Br. field censor mark in violet, recorded with censor number range 17–16000, used from Apr 8,1944 to Dec 1945.

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Re: Benians Type I EPP 44 CDS Used in Al Khatatbah, Misr

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This is Benians type I EPP 44 datestamp (dia: 2.8cm) used by Br. Stationary Army Post Office S223 (Proud incorrectly recorded it as S215 ☹️) from Jul 25,1945 to Dec 3,1945 in 1st phase, in Al Khatatbah (30.3604°N 30.8192°E), Misr.

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Re: Benians Type VI EPP Slogan Cancel

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I hope someone will be able to provide more information about this slogan cancel. Looks like cog wheels and an inscription of which I've only been able to figure out a small portion "LEND".
This is Benians type VI EPP IT PAYS TO LEND slogan cancel (earliest recorded date of use: Mar 10,1943), used in Al Qahirah, Misr.

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Re: Br. FPO 233/Stationary APO S254 Datestamp Used in Yerushalayim

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The FPO 233 datestamp was used by Br. Stationary Army Post Office S254, located in Yerushalayim from Jun 2,1944 to Dec 5,1946.

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Re: 1945 Al Khatatbah–Yerushalayim O.A.S. Cover

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…except for the initials "O.A.S." (On Army Service)
O.A.S. stands for On Active Service.

This cover was sent without pre-payment of any postage because from May 1,1941, forces personnels on active service, were granted free postage concession to send mail by surface route for weight upto 56.7gm (2oz).

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Thanks Joy. Your posts are helpful and informative as usual.

Now I know where the cover was sent from (Al Khatatbah) and what military post received it in Palestine (Br. Stationary Army Post Office S254, located in Yerushalayim).

I assume that the generic EGYPT * POSTAGE PREPAID CDS was probably from the main hub and sorting center, perhaps in Cairo or in Alexandria.

I've looked up peltate, it means shield-shaped.

Once again I realize how many useful books are out there (and how many I am missing).


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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

I see I missed part of Joy's post: "Benians type VI EPP IT PAYS TO LEND slogan cancel (earliest recorded date of use: Mar 10,1943), used in Al Qahirah, Misr"

So the hub was probably in Cairo.

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Item #88 is a cover sent in 1956 from Lambaréné, French Equatorial Africa (AEF) (now Gabon) to Deventer, Netherlands.

A cover sent in 1956 from Lambaréné, French Equatorial Africa (AEF) (now Gabon) to Deventer, Netherlands.
A cover sent in 1956 from Lambaréné, French Equatorial Africa (AEF) (now Gabon) to Deventer, Netherlands.

The cover is franked with three stamps from the 1946 series. One dark violet brown Gabon Forest 2fr stamp (AEF Scott 175, AEF SG 244, AEF Maury 104), one deep claret Young Bacongo Woman 20fr stamp (AEF Scott 183, AEF SG 252, AEF Maury 229) and one black Young Bacongo Woman 25fr stamp (AEF Scott 184, AEF SG 253, AEF Maury 230).

Here is a close up of the stamps:

Gabon Forest 2fr stamp (AEF Scott 175, AEF SG 244, AEF Maury 104). Young Bacongo Woman 20fr stamp (AEF Scott 183, AEF SG 252, AEF Maury 229). Young Bacongo Woman 25fr stamp (AEF Scott 184, AEF SG 253, AEF Maury 230).
Gabon Forest 2fr stamp (AEF Scott 175, AEF SG 244, AEF Maury 104). Young Bacongo Woman 20fr stamp (AEF Scott 183, AEF SG 252, AEF Maury 229). Young Bacongo Woman 25fr stamp (AEF Scott 184, AEF SG 253, AEF Maury 230).

IMHO, an attractive design.

The stamps are tied to the cover with two cancels. A 12 -11 56 LAMBARENE CDS:

French Equatorial Africa (AEF) 12 -11 56 LAMBARENE CDS.
French Equatorial Africa (AEF) 12 -11 56 LAMBARENE CDS.

and a three line slogan cancel: "RICHESSE DU / BOIS COTON / DIAMANT OR" (Riches of / wood cotton / diamonds gold).

French Equatorial Africa three line slogan cancel: "RICHESSE DU / BOIS COTON / DIAMANT OR" (Riches of / wood cotton / diamonds gold).
French Equatorial Africa three line slogan cancel: "RICHESSE DU / BOIS COTON / DIAMANT OR" (Riches of / wood cotton / diamonds gold).

Here is the back of the cover:

Back of a cover sent in 1956 from Lambaréné, French Equatorial Africa (AEF) (now Gabon) to Deventer, Netherlands.
Back of a cover sent in 1956 from Lambaréné, French Equatorial Africa (AEF) (now Gabon) to Deventer, Netherlands.

The cover is back stamped with a 24.NOV.1956 LIBREVILLE A.E.F. CDS. Libreville is the capital city of Gabon.


French Equatorial Africa (AEF) 24.NOV.1956 LIBREVILLE A.E.F. CDS.
French Equatorial Africa (AEF) 24.NOV.1956 LIBREVILLE A.E.F. CDS.

A neat looking little cover sent from a French colony to a European country which was not the colonizing country (not a lot of these).

An interesting side note, Scott values the stamps at USD 1.85 and SG values them at GBP 1.85 while Maury values the stamps at EUR 2.3 as used singles, but at EUR 28.3 on cover (I am using the formula of the most expensive stamp on cover plus the values of the remaining stamps as singles).

Which makes one ponder as to the catalogue values of on cover stamps used in period.

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Item #89 is a set of eight mini sheets from Nicaragua (Nicaragua Scott 2020-7 SG MS 3396a-h) issued on 25.5.1994 on the subject of Alien Sightings.

Due to the size and number of scans I'll split them up into two posts.

Nicaragua Scott 2020 SG MS 3396a 60 cor mini sheet
Nicaragua Scott 2020 SG MS 3396a 60 cor mini sheet

Nicaragua Scott 2020 SG MS 3396a 60 cor mini sheet

July 21, 1991 Missouri, USA

"Three young girls noticed a white, oval shaped light moving rapidly in a corner of their yard, then standing there was a strange creature. Each girl described this creature as thin with long slender fingers, bald egg shaped head with ridges along the top. It was also described as having a transparent abdominal area. All witnesses were considered reliable, and displayed considerable consternation and fright after this encounter."


Nicaragua Scott 2021 SG MS 3396b 60 cor mini sheet
Nicaragua Scott 2021 SG MS 3396b 60 cor mini sheet

Nicaragua Scott 2021 SG MS 3396b 60 cor mini sheet

July 28, 1965 Argentina

"A 17 year old student riding his motorcycle near the city of Parana when it began to stall, and he suddenly noticed a bizarre looking creature by the side of the road. It was very tall, between six and seven feet, with a melon shaped head and long stark white hair. Most intriguing of all, it appeared to have three eyes, all staring fixed without moving. There were reports of a luminous flying object traveling at high speed near that area at the time of this reported encounter."


Nicaragua Scott 2022 SG MS 3396c 60 cor mini sheet
Nicaragua Scott 2022 SG MS 3396c 60 cor mini sheet


Nicaragua Scott 2022 SG MS 3396c 60 cor mini sheet

August 21, 1955 Kentucky, USA

"At a farmhouse near Hokinsville, a family saw a bright light in the sky descending near them – then some strange creatures coming towards them. They were described as being just over 3 feet tall with huge elephant-like ears. The family was of good reputation. No corroboration of their sighting could be found."


Nicaragua Scott 2023 SG MS 3396d 60 cor mini sheet
Nicaragua Scott 2023 SG MS 3396d 60 cor mini sheet


Nicaragua Scott 2023 SG MS 3396d 60 cor mini sheet

October 25, 1973 Pennsylvania, USA

"Several eyewitnesses reported seeing a red ball of light hovering above a field on the outskirts of Uniontown. As they approached it, they saw two large ape-like creatures with glowing green eyes. They were between seven and eight feet tall, covered with long gray hair, with arms so long they practically dragged on the ground. Upon investigation, police reported hearing something crushing into the nearby underbrush but no evidence of the reported creatures could be found."

An intriguing subject with eye catching designs.

To quote a famous saying: "It's life Jim, but not as we know it."

To be continued.

Cheers,

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Item #89 continued. The remaining four mini sheets from a set of eight mini sheets from Nicaragua (Nicaragua Scott 2020-7 SG MS 3396a-h) issued on 25.5.1994 on the subject of Alien Sightings.



Nicaragua Scott 2024 SG MS 3396e 60 cor mini sheet
Nicaragua Scott 2024 SG MS 3396e 60 cor mini sheet


Nicaragua Scott 2024 SG MS 3396e 60 cor mini sheet

September 19, 1961 New Hampshire, USA

"A married couple driving home through the White Mountains noticed they were being followed by what looked like a plane without wings with flashing colored light. This object began to glow, and a sense of drowsiness came over them. Thirty five miles down the road they regained their faculties, and could not explain their loss of time and place. Under hypnosis by a doctor, they recalled being stopped and abducted by figures in dark jackets, short in stature and hairless. The doctor was convinced they were not lying."


Nicaragua Scott 2025 SG MS 3396f 60 cor mini sheet
Nicaragua Scott 2025 SG MS 3396f 60 cor mini sheet


Nicaragua Scott 2025 SG MS 3396f 60 cor mini sheet

November 7, 1989 Kansas, USA

"Two women driving home on Interstate #70, suddenly observed two bright lights in the sky. Under hypnosis, they both related similar reports of being taken aboard a craft by alien life forms. These extraterrestrial were reported as being slender, with large hairless heads, slanted non blinking eyes, and four long slender fingers on each hands. Neither women had ever seen or expressed belief in UFO's previously."



Nicaragua Scott 2026 SG MS 3396g 60 cor mini sheet
Nicaragua Scott 2026 SG MS 3396g 60 cor mini sheet


Nicaragua Scott 2026 SG MS 3396g 60 cor mini sheet

September 26, 1978 Grand Canary Island, Spain

"A respected medical doctor and his driver spotted what they described as an enormous transparent UFO hovering over the Canary Islands with two figures inside. They were described as being human in appearance except for their wing like appendages at the end of their arms and their large bright eyes. Other witnesses corroborated their testimony of the UFO sighting."



Nicaragua Scott 2027 SG MS 3396h 60 cor mini sheet
Nicaragua Scott 2027 SG MS 3396h 60 cor mini sheet


Nicaragua Scott 2027 SG MS 3396h 60 cor mini sheet

May 8, 1973 Texas, USA

"A family was returning home, when they noticed what appeared to be a light in the sky that seemed to follow them for many miles until they reached home. Years later, under hypnosis, one of women revealed she had seen two aliens at the time, approximately three feet in height, large heads, long dark claw-like nails on each of their long curved fingers, and very thin- almost skeletal – giving the appearance that if you were to touch them they would pop. Although they never spoke they seemed to communicate telepathically."

Surprisingly (or perhaps not, considering the popularity of EFOs) this set has a high catalog value. Scott values the set at USD 60 and SG values the set at GBP 140 (from the Central America 3rd edition 2007).

See also the substantial values for the Rwanda mini sheets (items #81 and #82).

I wonder what the market prices are.

Nice and odd at the same time. I would definitely go for postally used examples (not CTO) but they probably don't exist.

Cheers,

Carmel

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Item #90 is a registered airmail cover sent from the G.P.O. Sierra Leone to Antwerp, Belgium on 12 June 1971.

Registered airmail cover sent from the G.P.O. (Freetown) Sierra Leone to Antwerp, Belgium on 12 June 1971
Registered airmail cover sent from the G.P.O. (Freetown) Sierra Leone to Antwerp, Belgium on 12 June 1971

It looks like a philatelic cover, but still quite an attractive cover.

The cover is franked with the entire New York World's Fair set (Sierra Leone SG 285-298, Scott 257-263 and C14-C20) of 14 stamps issued 10 February 1964. This set was issued as imperforate self adhesive stamps. Not a common occurrence in 1964.

There are two design types.

Lion Emblem and Map (SG 285-291) 1d - 5/-. Here is a scan of the 1d stamp (SG 285) to illustrate this design:

Sierra Leone SG 285 1d self adhesive imperforate Lion Emblem and Map World's Fair, New York stamp.
Sierra Leone SG 285 1d self adhesive imperforate Lion Emblem and Map World's Fair, New York stamp.

and, Globe and Map (SG 292-298) which were airmail stamps. Here is a scan of the 6/- stamp (SG 297) to illustrate the second design:

Sierra Leone SG 297 6/- self adhesive imperforate Globe and Map World's Fair, New York airmail stamp.
Sierra Leone SG 297 6/- self adhesive imperforate Globe and Map World's Fair, New York airmail stamp.

The stamps are neatly canceled by ten oval 12 JUN 1971 REGISTERED G.P.O. SIERRA LEONE CDSs.
Shown are two scans of the cancels:


12 JUN 1971 REGISTERED G.P.O. SIERRA LEONE CDS.
12 JUN 1971 REGISTERED G.P.O. SIERRA LEONE CDS.
12 JUN 1971 REGISTERED G.P.O. SIERRA LEONE CDS.
12 JUN 1971 REGISTERED G.P.O. SIERRA LEONE CDS.



The SG catalogue (Stanley Gibbons Commonwealth Stamp Catalogue West Africa 2nd Edition 2012) lists a variety for several of the stamps of the regular postage issue (SG 285-291), described as an extended "A" in "SIERRA" variety. The 1d and 3d stamps were issued solely with this variety which was corrected on the 4d stamp and thereafter. However some of the 4d - 5/- stamps (SG 287-291) were also issued with the extended "A" variety which has a catalog value for mint stamps of X10-25 and more relative to the corrected "A" issues (but no values are listed for used stamps). Scott does not list this variety.

Here are close ups from the cover of the 1d stamp with the extended A variety and the 4d stamp with the corrected "A" variety:

Extended "A" variety
Extended "A" variety
Corrected "A" variety
Corrected "A" variety

All the remaining stamps from this part of the set (SG 298-291) are of the more valuable extended "A" variety.

Sierra Leone 6d stamp with Extended "A" variety (SG 288b).
Sierra Leone 6d stamp with Extended "A" variety (SG 288b).
Sierra Leone 1/- stamp with Extended "A" variety (SG 289b).
Sierra Leone 1/- stamp with Extended "A" variety (SG 289b).
Sierra Leone 2s stamp with Extended "A" variety (SG 290b).
Sierra Leone 2s stamp with Extended "A" variety (SG 290b).
Sierra Leone 5s stamp with Extended "A" variety (SG 291b).
Sierra Leone 5s stamp with Extended "A" variety (SG 291b).

Nothing interesting on the back of the cover.


img1560.jpg

So the stamps affixes to this cover are Sierra Leone SG 285-287 1d - 4d, SG 288b, 289b, 290b and 291b 6d - 5/- (Scott 257-263) and the airmail stamps SG 292-298 (Scott C14-C20).

Total Scott catalog value for the two sets is USD 5.80 in used condition. Total SG value (with Corrected "A" varieties) is GBP 4.25.

It's odd that SG does not list values for this variety in used condition.

All in all, a neat cover, with a complete early form cut self adhesive set.

Cheers,

Carmel

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi,

Item #91 is a 1957 airmail cover sent from Masomeloka, Madagascar to Paris, France.

1957 cover airmail cover sent from Masomeloka, Madagascar to Paris, France
1957 cover airmail cover sent from Masomeloka, Madagascar to Paris, France

The cover is franked with a vertical strip of three FIDES 3fr stamps (Madagascar Scott 292, SG 333, Maury 340) and an additional vertical pair of FIDES 3fr stamps (Madagascar Scott 292, SG 333, Maury 340) for a total franking of 15fr. Does this fit the airmail rate at that time?

Madagascar FIDES 3fr stamps (Madagascar Scott 292, Madagascar SG 333, Madagascar Maury 340)
Madagascar FIDES 3fr stamps (Madagascar Scott 292, Madagascar SG 333, Madagascar Maury 340)

There are three 26 – 6 1957 MASOMELOKA MADAGASCAR hexagonal DSs.

6 – 6 1957 MASOMELOKA MADAGASCAR hexagonal DS
6 – 6 1957 MASOMELOKA MADAGASCAR hexagonal DS

The hexagonal cancels are what caught my eye. Hexagonal cancels can sometimes be found on Portugal and colonies covers but this is the first cover I've found with hexagonal cancels from Madagascar.

Nothing on the back of the cover.

img1574.jpg

Wikipedia has this to say:

"Masomeloka is a village and commune in the Mahanoro District, Atsinanana Region, Madagascar.

It is located near the Indian Ocean on the south side of Masora River. It is approximately 47 km south of Mahanoro, the chief city of the district. The 2001 population of the commune was 27,567."

So this is not a common cancel.

It's interesting to note that the Scott catalog value for the stamps as five singles is $1.25, SG catalog value for five singles is GBP 4.25 while the Maury catalog value four an on cover stamp plus for used stamps is Eur 14.4.

Which once again raises the question of how accurate are the on cover valuations vs. the valuations for singles.

Cheers,

Carmel
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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Hi Carmel,

I'm afraid I'm not convinced by your "Extended A" examples. :(

The image for the variety in my SG West Africa catalogue shows a relatively long line sticking up diagonally to the left from the top of the A.
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Hi Nigel,

I believe that I have misunderstood the explanation in the catalog.

I thought that the 1d and 3d values were not corrected, so that they all had this variety while some of the 4d and up stamps were later corrected so as not to have this variety.

So my assumption was that the best example to illustrate this variety would be from the 1d and 3d stamps, which I mistakenly understood were issued solely with the extended "A" variety.

As can be seen from the scan of the close up of the 3d stamp (Identified as the 1d stamp on my original post) the "A" variety on the 3d stamp looks different from the corrected "A" 4d stamp, also shown in a close up scan, and the top of the "A" has been corrected so that the vertical top bar juts out from both sides of the "A".

All the other stamps from this series from the cover which I've scanned and posted are with an "A" that is identical to the one of the scanned 3d stamp. The 1d stamp is also identical to it (supposedly it was also issued solely with the extended "A" variety) but I didn't post a close up of it.

Here is a close up of the "A" on the 1d stamp:


img1575.jpg



Here is a close up of the 3d stamp:

img1551.jpg


The "A" is identical, the top bar is completely skewed to the left with nothing showing on the right.

For comparison here is a close up of the 4d stamp, with the corrected "A", with the top bar showing evenly on both sides:


img1552.jpg


It seems that the correction also included centering the top bar of the "A".

So, not an extended "A" variety, but probably the regular skewed "A" on the 1d and 3d stamps without the extension, the corrected "A" variety with centered top bar on the 4d stamp, and uncorrected skewed "A" without extensions on the rest of the stamps.

I hope other members have some examples to post up to illustrate these stamps.

Cheers,

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Re: Some random Odds & Ends From My Stamp Collection

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Here's an example of a Sierra Leone "Extended A" variety stamp that is currently for sale on eBay:
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