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Princestamps wrote:Reminds me of ticketting to most shows, concerts and exhibitions now. You pay a price for the ticket and they add on all these fees like 3% Service charge, 3% Processing, $10 venue fee, 2 - 4% Card surcharges, $10 ticket printing or pick up fee and even ticket insurance. This drip pricing needs to stop.
It'll keep happening while people keep paying it. The way to deal with the "flea on a dog" that is Ticketmaster and the like is to stop buying their product.

Same as Photobucket (he says, dragging us kicking and screaming back on-topic!) :idea:

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Latest message from Photobucket...

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I like the statement : "There are more than 15 billion photos on the Internet that are hosted by us. "

What they failed to mention is that 14 billion of them are the dial of death. :lol:
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The Pom wrote:According to https://www.similarweb.com/website/photobucket.com monthly visits to PB fell from 46.4 million in July 2017 to 23.8 million on Dec 2017, a near 50% fall in traffic.

Congratulations to the management at PB, who have machine gunned themselves in the feet.
Now down to 18.3 million - a 60% drop since July.
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New announcement from Photobucket today. Sadly I think the damage is done, but .....
Welcome To The New Photobucket!
Photobucket has new management, and we are liberating your images!

As of today, your hosted images are live.

Photobucket has a new management team that wants to do the right thing. We are committed to earning back your trust and offering comprehensive and flexible image storage and hosting options for our customers. We’ve taken your feedback and made some changes to our pricing model that allows us to offer competitively priced plans that fit the needs of all of our customers.

Today, our current customers’ hosted images have been restored and Photobucket is introducing a new pricing plan that is built around everyone’s needs.

For a limited time, we are offering a new, competitive subscription package that includes ad-free storage and 3rd party image hosting for just $1.99 per month, or $19.99 per year - which is 95 percent less than the previous pricing model. A free subscription option will still be available to customers who do not require 3rd party image hosting.

In an effort to improve our customers’ experience, we’ve also moved away from an advertising-based model and have eliminated a portion of ads from the site.

Photobucket pioneered the image sharing and hosting market 15 years ago, and our new management team is committed to returning Photobucket to the premier imaging service people had come to know and trust.

There are more positive changes on the way, but for now we are excited to share this new compelling subscription option, as a testament to our dedication to you, our valued customers.
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Continued
FAQ:

Q: What was the reasoning behind the new subscription offering?

A: Image services is not a one-size-fits-all market. We serve several different types of customers who have very different needs. Some customers just want a hub to store some photos and browse public photos for download. Our e-commerce customers need a powerful platform that allows them to link back to images from their online stores. Bloggers and forum managers need a place to store the photos they use to help their stories and discussions come alive. Our new offering adheres to our subscription-based model and offers added features based on what users need at a fair price.

Q: How long is this limited time offer available?

A: Right now there is not a set cut-off date for this offer. We want to make sure our customers have ample time to make an informed decision.

Q: Will the pricing go up after the limited time offer?

A: The monthly and annual plans will likely increase in cost only slightly. We are reaching out to our customers with this initial offer because we know many were taken off guard by the pricing structure set by the previous leadership team, and we want to make it right.



Q: My images have always been stored at full resolution - will they stay that way?

A: We are implementing technology to ensure that all photos uploaded to our platform are stored at their original resolution for every plan.

Q: What if I don’t want to purchase a subscription? Can I have my images back?

A: Yes, you are free to download your images. They belong to you! We believe our new subscription plan is priced fairly and is very competitive to other services. Our new management team is committed to serving our customers in the best possible way, and we hope you will consider this offer and keeping your images with Photobucket.
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Ian

That is good news.

I haven't received the email you have posted at this time, but I do notice images are back.

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Too late for many users. They forced volunteers here to spend endless hours moving images over. How many other PB users faced a similar chore on discussion boards, blogs, personal websites...

Everyone here has migrated over to Imgur...why go back? Once bitten, twice shy...
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I got an invite as I filled out their survey telling them it was THE dumbest decision since the New Coke.

We are not going back.

The fabulous team of volunteers here have saved about 300,000 images that were once in photobucket - their loss for taking a year to see some common sense.

When the army of folks that DID pay the $500 find out they will all of course demand a full refund. :idea:
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As I don't do surveys, it might explain why I have not received this offer.

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It wasn't an email or a survey. At the time of the earlier debacle I followed them on twitter, and this announcement popped up last night: I was reading in bed! So I clicked the link and copied those posts from their website.

However, clicking on other links still show the $300+ subscription plan, so they have not completely cleared the **** from their website.
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My three most recent Photobucket emails...

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norvic wrote:It wasn't an email or a survey. At the time of the earlier debacle I followed them on twitter, and this announcement popped up last night: I was reading in bed! So I clicked the link and copied those posts from their website.

However, clicking on other links still show the $300+ subscription plan, so they have not completely cleared the **** from their website.
Ian

I have checked a couple of threads where I posted images, which have not been upgraded & the images are there. I haven't received any email nor have I paid a subscription but they are there.

However I will continue to upgrade images until advised otherwise.

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The trouble now is how do you trust them in the future. At any point in time they could change their minds again and we are then in the same boat.

I still recommend changing all the images here to stampboards.com/imgur just to be sure. We must surely be close to finishing now anyway.
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john6625 wrote:The trouble now is how do you trust them in the future. At any point in time they could change their minds again and we are then in the same boat.

I still recommend changing all the images here to stampboards.com/imgur just to be sure. We must surely be close to finishing now anyway.
Well you don't trust them especially as this $19.99 offer appears to be selective, so we continue on the same way as before. :)
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I guess they had to do something to stop the catastrophic demise, but its far too little, far too late.

Given the architecture of this site, placing any pictures on a third party site that demands even $5 a year is still going to leave you exposed to those "who forget to make trivial payment, either by accident or design".

The awesome work done by the army of volunteers is not a moment wasted.

The scale, effort and dedication has been massive, and much appreciated by all (but especially those of us late to the party, who are now delving back through the ten years plus of legacy).

I just hope this reprieve doesn't make it harder for the team to track down the last remaining few that need converting (and wipe photobucket cleanly off our xmas card list). Photo-who?

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BigSaint wrote:Well you don't trust them especially as this $19.99 offer appears to be selective, so we continue on the same way as before. :)
It's not at all selective, here's the link to the page on their website.

And it is the top link on their support home page.

However, as I said, the rest of the site has still to catch up as this is their payment plan page.

A panel on their home page does read:
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We are currently sprucing up our website to be faster, easier to use, and just plain better all around. You may notice a few things changing, but don't worry we are here to help. If you have any questions please contact our Support Team.
It would have been better to have those pages changed and ready to dump on the website the same day as that Twitter announcement. But.... Abacus comes to mind. With limited resources, which they may now have, not everything can be done at once.
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The Pom wrote:According to https://www.similarweb.com/website/photobucket.com monthly visits to PB fell from 46.4 million in July 2017 to 23.8 million on Dec 2017, a near 50% fall in traffic.

Congratulations to the management at PB, who have machine gunned themselves in the feet.
Now down to 18.3 million - a 60% drop since July.
Now at 15.5 million, so they've managed to lose two thirds of their traffic in 10 months.

The phrase "Shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted" springs to mind with this latest offer (I got the "selective" offer by email this morning, I won't be taking it up).

Maybe this lot should start a joint venture with the former directors of Stanley Gibbons & Mossgreen.....
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Either Photobucket missed me or I am not doing something forbidden ?

- I have checked several of my early postings, include the "Inspector of Poor" topic and there are no "dials of death" and the image attribution is still Photobucket.

- I have not had any emails from them and my photos remain intact.

- The only thing that I have used Photobucket for is posting here.

Any thoughts?

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Britcollector wrote:Either Photobucket missed me or I am not doing something forbidden ?

- I have checked several of my early postings, include the "Inspector of Poor" topic and there are no "dials of death" and the image attribution is still Photobucket.

- I have not had any emails from them and my photos remain intact.

- The only thing that I have used Photobucket for is posting here.

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norvic wrote:
Britcollector wrote:Either Photobucket missed me or I am not doing something forbidden ?

- I have checked several of my early postings, include the "Inspector of Poor" topic and there are no "dials of death" and the image attribution is still Photobucket.

- I have not had any emails from them and my photos remain intact.

- The only thing that I have used Photobucket for is posting here.

Any thoughts?
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I do not see a post of yours made at that time.

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Britcollector wrote:I do not see a post of yours made at that time.

:oops:
Go to link below & you can't miss it:
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john6625 wrote:The trouble now is how do you trust them in the future. At any point in time they could change their minds again and we are then in the same boat.

I still recommend changing all the images here to stampboards.com/imgur just to be sure. We must surely be close to finishing now anyway.
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100% agree too !

I suspect they have released all the images to get people to subscribe at a sensible level. But what happens in one month (or two) with those people's images who have not subscribed (because, for instance, they are no longer with us) ? Surely, those are going to get ransomed again.

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Britcollector wrote:I do not see a post of yours made at that time.

:oops:
:oops: nothing. All you have to do is use Control+F and enter that date and time (copied to make sure you don't make an oops) and press return. That will take you to the post from which I copied that date and time! It's on this page for gawd's sake, just look!
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Looks like they have fallen on their sword and admitted the ransom demands were pointless and cost them heavily. Also that heads have rolled, greedy heads.

But the fact they did it, is a sign I will never trust them again and like most of you are happy with imgur and glad we all made the switch. I also salute all the work the volunteers have done restoring all the dial of death images,

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From and online article a few days ago.

Seems to indicate that the former CEO and person who authorised the ransom John CORPUS is gone and may have left the building some six months ago. That is evidence enough of the success of the ransom move.

"restoring access to customers’ photos will help to reinstate goodwill among our customers" They lost that when the ransom demand was made and will never get that back from any sane person, but having said that, they claim to be attracting 8,000 new users a week.

https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2018/05/17/1508498/0/ ... Trust.html

Denver, May 17, 2018 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Photobucket today announced new, comprehensive and flexible image storage and hosting options that are being rolled out by a new management team focused on doing the right thing for customers. To re-establish trust among its long-standing and new customers, Photobucket has made changes to its pricing model that includes a competitively priced plan that fits the needs of many of its customers.

Photobucket is now offering a new, competitive subscription package with an ad-free experience, storage and third-party image hosting for just $1.99 per month (or $19.99 per year) - which is 95% less than their previous image hosting plan. A free subscription option is still available to customers who do not require third-party image hosting.

Photobucket’s new CEO is Ted Leonard, a technology and finance industry veteran who has deep roots as an entrepreneur. Over the past six months, he has assembled an experienced and customer-focused management team that has been working around the clock to reinvent Photobucket’s pricing structure and packages in a way that will best support customer needs. The new management team has a vision for building a renewed Photobucket that can attentively and fairly serve customers while also moving toward a sustainable business model.

“We have taken back Photobucket and are working diligently to return it to the premier image storing and hosting service that it was known as previously,” said Ted Leonard, CEO, Photobucket. “There were some mistakes made and we acknowledge them. Our new leadership is dedicated to helping our customers do great things with their images in a fair, cost-effective and valuable way.”

As of today, all hosted images that Photobucket’s customers had lost access to last year have been restored.

“There are more changes coming, but we hope that this initial subscription offering and restoring access to customers’ photos will help to reinstate goodwill among our customers who had depended on Photobucket to conduct business and share their work,” said Leonard.

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Well my inbox has been totally silent about any of these new "improvements" from PB. I have received nothing. Which is a far cry from the 2 or 3 emails I was being sent every day before!

Not that it matters, that bridge was blown up, burnt and the ashes stomped on long ago. :twisted:

I wish the new owners all the best in attracting new customers. :D
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From traralgon3844's naming of John Corpus who stuffed it all up, I found this article....

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/07/16/photobucket-fee-hike/

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Latest email from Photobucket....

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Cheaper again, soon they will be paying us :!: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Cheap, but still 6.50 too much.

Also people have long memories and will not forget what photobucket did. Even before that, I remember they had a major outage on average every few months and black boxes came up and the like.

Since I switched to imgur, never had a single problem ever and the cost is the best - Nothing.

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FBI sinkholes a key domain used by the malware that infected 500,000 home routers, declares partial victory and Russian attribution

The domain is "ToKnowAll.com" and it worked in concert with a set of doctored images stored on Photobucket.

https://boingboing.net/2018/05/24/whew-i-think.html

(I wonder how much ToKnowAll paid to store on Photobucket? :) )

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My latest eMail from Photobucket says the following:
For a limited time all of your 3rd Party Hosted Images have been restored. Please login to choose the plan that best fits your needs to continue hosting your images.
(emphasis Photobuckets)

My reading of this, which could be incorrect, is that unless a new paid plan option is chosen, Photobucket will delete the entire account.

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I read that as "sign up soon, or it's back to the dial of death for you!"
(Insert evil laugh while wringing wrists in expected delight) :P
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All concerned

Do we have anything to worry about by not signing-up for one of the now cheaper accounts, i.e. with the images which our 'correction crew' (of which I was a very minor member) did not get around to changing to Imgur?

I, for one, do not feel inclined to give Photobucket any money at all, given all the trouble they have caused.

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Richard,

Personally I won't be signing up to PB at any price, but this isn't a recommendation by any means.

All I can say is that the vast majority of the board is free of links to PB - see http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=81380&p=5541665#p5541665 with the images having been moved to Imgur or Stampboards itself; the balance should be done within a matter of weeks.

But for anyone thinking that they can delete images or close their account, DO NOT DO THIS, we haven't quite finished !

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CMJ wrote:
But for anyone thinking that they can delete images or close their Photobucket account, DO NOT DO THIS, we haven't quite finished !

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Latest email....

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The Pom wrote:
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The Pom wrote:According to https://www.similarweb.com/website/photobucket.com monthly visits to PB fell from 46.4 million in July 2017 to 23.8 million on Dec 2017, a near 50% fall in traffic.

Congratulations to the management at PB, who have machine gunned themselves in the feet.
Now down to 18.3 million - a 60% drop since July.
Now at 15.5 million, so they've managed to lose two thirds of their traffic in 10 months.

The phrase "Shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted" springs to mind with this latest offer (I got the "selective" offer by email this morning, I won't be taking it up).

Maybe this lot should start a joint venture with the former directors of Stanley Gibbons & Mossgreen.....
Now up a few % at 15.8 million. Looks like the new management's retreat & apology for their brainless predecessors' actions has failed to undo the reputational damage they caused.

It would be interesting to find out what the old management team are up to these days. The fiasco they presided over should have rendered them pretty much unemployable in anything much above burger flipping.
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The Pom wrote: It would be interesting to find out what the old management team are up to these days. The fiasco they presided over should have rendered them pretty much unemployable in anything much above burger flipping.
I heard a rumour they are running the ebay Committee overseeing the banning of sale or listing, of regums, re-perfs, fakes, undisclosed repairs or alterations, and forgeries, replicas, and wrongly described stamp material.

Their first report advises that area is 100% under control now, in their professional view. :idea:
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Latest from Photobucket:
The comeback continues with bigger plans! Login to your #Photobucket
account and you'll see 25% more storage on Free, and 1150% more storage
on the Basic and Intermediate plans! Check it out.
The website doesn't mention the free option, but links to this page. Perhaps only the people who were signed up before, keep their free accounts. http://photobucket.com/plans/
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Watermarking: How Photobucket Is Keeping Free... Free
Today, we're excited to share a small piece of the overall vision to make Photobucket a thriving community.

In the past, Photobucket took drastic actions in a desperate, short-term move to remain viable and continue offering services to its customers.

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On images hosted to other sites from free accounts, we’ve created a subtle modification by overlaying a watermark that says “Proudly hosted by Photobucket.”

This will not affect images you share via social media, images you email to family and friends, or your images that people see when they visit your Photobucket profile.

It’s important to stress that your original images are uncompromised!
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I just had a look at a photo..... they call THAT a "subtle" modification? Glad I will never use them again.
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Allanswood wrote:I just had a look at a photo..... they call THAT a "subtle" modification? Glad I will never use them again.
It's better than Alamy or Getty Images who protect their images with all over 'multiple' watermarks. But those are their images rather than ours.
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norvic wrote:Watermarking: How Photobucket Is Keeping Free... Free
In the past, Photobucket took drastic actions in a desperate, short-term move to remain viable and continue ......
"we’ve created a subtle modification by overlaying a watermark that says “Proudly hosted by Photobucket.”
I came late to the Photobucket debacle, but its patently clear that they are going out of their way to make freeloaders "pay a fee, or be embarrassed". I've seen this watermark in the for sale forum here, and it just looks cheap.

With this current unpredictability and uncertainty surrounding them, I will not sign up for Photobucket, as they appear untrustworthy.

Obviously, that has implications ....

Given, as I understand it, its the only site that Stampboards uses for the Wants, Sales and Swaps areas, (on the grounds of "pictures for commercial usage"), is it time to source (or at least be thinking about), an alternative choice for people, so they do not have to commit to Photobucket?

I can happily sit it out until you host everything yourself (which I thought was the long term goal), and fairly imminent.

I just await their next desperate measure, in their spiral of self-destruction.

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WHAT sort of boofhead in there decided on this HIGHLY INTRUSIVE placement??
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