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Global Administrator wrote:WHAT sort of boofhead in there decided on this HIGHLY INTRUSIVE placement??
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This is what it looks like in Stampboards sales listings

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Seems the logo is fixed size.

I expect an immense uplift in the number of stamps sold with weak left corners, or people to simply post images with their stamps in the right half of the image, so this watermark is marginal. Either way, its bad news for us, as users.

(The irony of hosting photobuckets wrongdoings on Imgur is not lost on me).

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I paid the photobucket minimum fee and always have, so I do not see those watermarks above oddly. :?:

Can members click on here -

https://www.megaproxy.com/freesurf

And paste this link in there and let me know if you see any watermarks on these PB images?

http://stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=84178
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Global Administrator wrote:I paid the photobucket minimum fee and always have, so I do not see those watermarks above oddly. :?:

Can members click on here -

https://www.megaproxy.com/freesurf

And paste this link in there and let me know if you see any watermarks on these PB images?

http://stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=84178
I think it only appears on the freeloaders account.

I clicked on your links, both via the megaproxy, and directly, and neither showed me your images, just the tiny little x on a black background.

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Glen,

I presume you meant https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=84241 which is a thread in the Selling forum with PB images with a watermark.

These still show the watermark even using Megaproxy.

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CMJ -- I see the 'watermark' on 2d GB on megaproxy, but it is not there on my laptop, as I have a paid account. B

I use megaproxy to test things. It is as if you are sitting in a web cafe in the USA etc. :mrgreen:
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Not to hijack this thread but...today I noticed all of my new posted images with Photobucket have the watermark. So, I went exploring to see what others are doing. I see folks using Imageshack, which I am in the process of signing up on, and many folks using stampboards.com/images. Is this the way of the future that has been talked about? Can anyone use it?
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In-house Stampboards Imaging is not generally available at this point, but the Moderation team is using a program to transfer images to in-house hosting to make sure we never have another Photobucket type crisis.

It will become the preferred method for members when we can make it member friendly for all, possibly after the next software upgrade, and will be launched at the time.

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Latest Photobucket missive....

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Attempt at a Dead Cat Bounce?

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ViccyVFU wrote:I think it only appears on the freeloaders account.
Like so many apps and websites, there's a free version, with a paid account option available.

How is it freeloading to use a service for free, that the provider is offering for free?

Do you consider every person who has a Gmail, Yahoomail, Hotmail account to be a "freeloader"?

Who knows what Photobucket is doing/thinks they will do with the images that are uploaded there--sell them to people to print on mugs and T-shirts?
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Wayne1951 wrote:I see folks using Imageshack, which I am in the process of signing up on
Imageshack costs just $18 a year, and no ''watermarks'', and is FINE for Sales Forum here.

Simple to use and stable and I signed for an account this week.

"There is no such thing as a free lunch in life". Anyone who thinks $18 annually for such a product is not worth it, is deluded. They spend that on a few coffees. :)

For normal Forums our tech whizz CMJ requests members use only IMGUR as their links are simplest to transfer to our own stampboards hosted database.

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aethelwulf wrote:How is it freeloading to use a service for free, that the provider is offering for free?

Do you consider every person who has a Gmail, Yahoomail, Hotmail account to be a "freeloader"?
"To use a service for free, that the provider is offering for free, isn't freeloading". Hence Stampboards, Hotmail, Yahoo and others all offer free services, and encourage users to participate.

Where it becomes freeloading, in dictionary terms, is when the provider disdains of the use of the free service (in their eyes "users exploiting their hospitality").

In Photobuckets case, they came down hard, with NO ACCESS and a RANSOM NOTE, then relaxed, but the reality is that they don't have the free account they used to have, and have raised hurdles in terms of continued usage.

If PHOTOBUCKET had merely closed the old free accounts to future additions, and demanded people signed up with new accounts (free) on the new terms, they would have handled it without use of the term, but the fact you can have significant assets locked into their system, which have now been compromised by use of demeaning advertising, means they are clearly holding old account holders in disdain.

Hence "Freeloading" (in their eyes)...... Of your core customerbase....... Which never ends well.

"If you do not pay for the service, then you are the product, not the customer".

Maybe all the other companies that seemingly provide good value for nil explicit cost are simply much better with their business model.

I expect Photobucket to be lost to history in a very short space of time.

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Is anyone else using PhotoBucket getting this message when trying to post images on SB?

"It was not possible to determine the dimensions of the image"

I know we were getting it on imagur when the went to https and we had to remove the "s" but now I am getting it on Photobucket on every image I try to post. :(
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Wayne - have never seen that on PB. They did have tech issues in recent days so maybe that?

Just did this as a test -
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Just tried again and same thing. You must have a "paid" account. :lol:
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This does not work.

http(s)://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k108/waynestamps/IMG_0004_zpsjpmaub52.jpg[/i m g]

This works with the "s" removed. The same as for imgur.

http()://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k108/waynestamps/IMG_0004_zpsjpmaub52.jpg[/i m g]

Brackets where the "s" is I put in so you can see the code. If we were advised of removing the "s" on Photobucket I guess I missed it.
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Wayne1951 wrote:Just tried again and same thing. You must have a "paid" account. :lol:
Have had a paid account for 10 years. A few bucks a year ($20 if I recall) to be able to post images easily, with no hassle, no watermarks, and no other issues always seemed a no-brainer to me!

Mine does not have any ''S'' in the link as you can see-

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s113/ozstamps/new/Gray%20 ... ainted.jpg
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Glen and Wayne,

I have a paid Photobucket account now. I still have an Imgur account but cant use it for items to sell. My Photobucket scans now wont load on Stampboards. I thought this was a temporary thing but its been going on for a few weeks now. I have been using Imgur for my normal posts. I want to post something on the Sell site but cant use Imgur and Photobucket doesn't work. So I just signed up to Imageshak. I have not paid a subscription yet. I loaded an image there and cant get it to display on Stampboards.

I don't quite understand why this is so hard. I just want a site that works that I can use everywhere on Stampboards.

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Folks,

I am getting this error message on Photobucket and on Photobucket and ImageShack. I must be doing something wrong?

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Tim

I feel your pain here, so try this thread.
http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=84375
As for sizing I haven't mastered that yet, so I load into IMGUR where I can size it, load it back to my device & then load the properly sized image on to Photobucket.

See how you go with this.

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It is a struggle to use PhotoBucket. If you use an ad blocker you have to turn it off. I upload the scans using the library page, seems to get fewer errors. I resize in PB and each one I resize comes with a couple of attempts, keep getting errors. Once I get through all that I can upload. Sometimes there is an "s" on http and sometimes not. Even in the same batch of uploads.
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Looks like the very latest 'plan' is rolling into action.

I've just received an email this morning (Christmas Day) saying;
This is an Important
Announcement.


Regarding changes to your account beginning January 15th, 2019.

We want to let you know about changes we are making to our free and paid accounts as we prepare to roll out the next version of our service, including the introduction of our Photobucket Member Bill of Rights.

Some of these changes will be effective starting January 15, 2019 so we invite you to learn more now to ensure that you are prepared.
When you follow the link it takes you to a web page which says;
Important Changes To Your Account
On January 15, 2019, Photobucket is implementing the following changes to our free and premium accounts that will impact our members:

Our free plan storage limit is now 2.5GB
Effective January 15, 2019, all existing free accounts will be limited to 2.5GB regardless of prior storage limits. This means that If your account is over its available space, you will need to purchase one of our affordable premium plans or download images so that your account meets the new 2.5GB limit.

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In order to bring us together as a community and give our members peace of mind, we have adopted the Photobucket Member Bill of Rights. This is what you can expect from us and how we respect our community of members. You can read them here.

We are committed to creating a better experience for our community of members and believe this is just the first step toward the future. We look forward to having you part of the Photobucket journey!

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Possibly a decent business plan but normal members who have long had a free account are left wondering how much space they are currently using.

As I have long since abandoned my account and will never use them again it means little to me but other members here my well need to be aware of this change.

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Thanks for that JonEboy, I have not seen that email.

So if we can workout how many gigs we have used, we can delete images we don't need because they are now stored in Stampboards & stay under the 2GB limit.

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It does not address whether free accounts will have the MASSIVE and ugly WATERMARK on it, as far as I can see?
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Something else to bear in mind is that you must login at least once a year to keep the account active otherwise it will be deleted (and I imagine all linked images with it broken).

So historical images from members who have fallen off the perch will disappear unless transferred (which I think has already been completed)


And when you login it gives a line bar of how much you have used in % of your total. My current usage is just 5% or 125mb used. I'll never reach the 2.5gb free limit. That limit would mean about 25,000 images.
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Thank you for that Greg, I now see I have used 625mb (of 3GB :?: ), so I too will be a long time reaching capacity, as most I my images are on IMGUR.

As for watermarks I don't see them on mine & I have not been advised that others see them on mine. I therefore am not sure of the basis of how these are applied.

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I've just found photobucket's email in my spam folder :lol:

Checking my account, it's been increased by 25% to the new FREE limit of 2.5GB :D

And ... no watermark -
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Interesting .. maybe they have backed off on those ugly watermarks?
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DaveR wrote:I've just found photobucket's email in my spam folder :lol:

Checking my account, it's been increased by 25% to the new FREE limit of 2.5GB :D

And ... no watermark -
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That's good Dave, but why do I see a watermark on your image or are you making a joke :?:

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I see no watermark on that flight cover - but have seen it on many other photobucket images.

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I have always understood that some (like me) see the watermarks and some (like Glen) don't see them. My understanding is that that has something to do the subscription the person viewing the images has.

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kuikka wrote:I have always understood that some (like me) see the watermarks and some (like Glen) don't see them. My understanding is that that has something to do the subscription the person viewing the images has.
That is the opposite of my understanding kuikka, which is it has something to do with the type of account the person posting has. :?
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Image

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2 images, one quite old and the other just now. I see no watermarks and I've never changed from a free account. I see no watermark on the cover above either.

Although I am still running the PB work around app that showed deleted images.

If I go to the top of this page and look at the screen shot image that shows the watermark, then click the link to the sales page - on the sale page I see no watermark.
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Hmmm, mysterious...

I see a watermark on DaveR's flight cover image, but none on Allanswood's.

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From what I understand Greg, David & I all have free Photobucket accounts.

Greg your Photobucket image is this one in the old format:

https://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab238/Allanswood/malaya-- ... 9wsuar.jpg[/img][/url]

while DaveR's is also old format:

https://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn60/DaveR_018/Australia%20Africa%20First%20Flight.jpg[/img]

Mine however is in the new format:

https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/ag37/Bigsaint-1/10 ... iginal.jpg?[/img]

Greg's & Dave's image formats are basically the same when you take out the first section of Greg's.

Now whether this makes any difference to those who have paid accounts or not & those who see things others don't, I have no idea. This could just be another Photobucket schmozzle. :roll:

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PS peterh I see the same as you.

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I don't see a watermark on your image Brad but I do see a watermark on DaveR's airmail cover.
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peterh wrote:Hmmm, mysterious...

I see a watermark on DaveR's flight cover image, but none on Allanswood's.
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BigSaint wrote:
kuikka wrote:I have always understood that some (like me) see the watermarks and some (like Glen) don't see them. My understanding is that that has something to do the subscription the person viewing the images has.
That is the opposite of my understanding kuikka, which is it has something to do with the type of account the person posting has. :?
I try to be more clear. My understanding is that the watermark is not incorporated in the image that is stored in a free account but is added when the image is shown in a third party site. So it applies only free accounts.

When free account images are shown, some of us seem to see the watermark and some others appear not to see them. There I have got understanding (which may be incorrect) that those of us who have paid account (and likely required to be logged in at the time of viewing images) don't see the watermark while others see it. I think that is also technically possible to do if the watermark is added only when the image is shown outside of photobucket.

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Thank you for that additional explanation kuikka, however it doesn't explain what I see & don't see with my free account.

I guess we will just have to put this down to one of those unexplained phenomena.

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Allanswood wrote: Although I am still running the PB work around app that showed deleted images.
I almost certain that this is the answer.

After the PB cleanup I disabled the extension that allowed the correct displaying of images (as it wasn't needed anymore) and I see watermarks...

Image

If, however I turn the extension back on, I no longer see watermarks (on the same image)...

Image

It seems that this extension, bypasses the addition of a watermark when the image is displayed (just like it bypassed the ransom image) and correctly shows the unadulterated image. The extension has been recently updated, I suspect, for this very purpose.

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I've been having a play around as well - I couldn't see a watermark on my image, or on Allanswood's or BigSaint's.

I run the 'Adblock Plus' ad-blocker. Turning the ad-blocker OFF brings up the watermark.

BUT - turning the ad-blocker ON again does not remove the watermark, even after clearing the cache :?

AND - although I've managed to bring back the watermark on my image, I still haven't got one on Allanswood's or BigSaint's images.

All very strange - now to see if I can find the PB extension again.

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I use Firefox -

Add-on 'photobucket embed fix' gets rid of the watermark on my image.

I can't remember the name of the original add-on/extension as I deleted it, but this one works.

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Just to add to the mix, I logged into SB on my Samsung tablet and while there are no watermarks on my images there is now a watermark showing on the cover image.

I would have expected to see watermarks on my images also using the tablet.

So I logged in on my Laptop rather than the desktop, which is still running the workaround app and... no watermarks showing on any image.

Throughout all of this I am not logged into PB at any time.
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Anone else had this email from them today?
This is an Important Announcement.

Regarding changes to your account beginning January 15th, 2019.
We want to let you know about changes we are making to our free and paid accounts as we prepare to roll out the next version of our service, including the introduction of our Photobucket Member Bill of Rights.

Some of these changes will be effective starting January 15, 2019 so we invite you to learn more now to ensure that you are prepared.
Below the text there is a button to click on saying "Click to learn more", something I'm disinclined to do.

Genuine or not?
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Chris

I believe that is genuine as it sounds like the announcement that JonEboy posted on December 25 above

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Thanks Brad, I missed that one - I assumed if anyone else had got the email, it would have been today.

Why can't they email all members at the same time?
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The Pom wrote: Why can't they email all members at the same time?
Good question 'The Pom'.

Amongst other reasons, for fear of being blacklisted. If you have over 1,000,000 emails to send you really do NOT send them all in one go.

First, if it asks people to click into your website and everyone does at the same time, you run the risk of overwhelming the server and crashing your website. Not the best user experience.

Second, with that many members, you would look to segment them in some way based on previous history, likelihood to purchase etc.etc.

Third, spam filters rule the internet now and anyone trying to send a million emails at one go will end up being blacklisted. Every email you send gets marked as spam and ends up in people's spam boxes rather than inboxes. Your IP also gets blacklisted and you cannot send or receive emails normally.

I'm sure there are other reasons but these are top three normally.

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The Pom wrote:According to https://www.similarweb.com/website/photobucket.com monthly visits to PB fell from 46.4 million in July 2017 to 23.8 million on Dec 2017, a near 50% fall in traffic.

Congratulations to the management at PB, who have machine gunned themselves in the feet.
Now down to 18.3 million - a 60% drop since July.
Now at 15.5 million, so they've managed to lose two thirds of their traffic in 10 months.

The phrase "Shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted" springs to mind with this latest offer (I got the "selective" offer by email this morning, I won't be taking it up).

Maybe this lot should start a joint venture with the former directors of Stanley Gibbons & Mossgreen.....
Now up a few % at 15.8 million. Looks like the new management's retreat & apology for their brainless predecessors' actions has failed to undo the reputational damage they caused.
Looks like I spoke too soon. Now down to 12.8 million - down 73% since mid 2017.

No doubt the lovely big watermark has helped. They probably thought it would promote the brand..... :roll:
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Well, they upped the ante on 3rd January sending me this dire warning;
Your Account Requires Immediate Attention

We recently notified you that effective January 15, 2019, all free accounts will be limited to 2.5GB of image storage. Your free account is over this new limit.

What You Need to Do

Now is the best time to take advantage of one of our low cost plans! Act before January 16, 2019 and we will take 15% off of the first year of our already discounted annual plans. That’s a 25% savings as compared to our monthly plans.

Upgrade Now
*Special pricing available to new paid subscribers only.

What if You Do Nothing

If you do not select a new plan, you will not be able to add any new images until you download or delete images to meet the new guideline. Please note that we will not delete any images for you. See our Member Bill of Rights for more information.
I have therefore done what any sane person would do and logged in (to keep the account live) and ignored it. After what they did they won't see a penny of my money.

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They really do not have a clue.

I got this warning too about getting close to my limit, yet when I go look and see, I have only used 7%.

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