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Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit.

Posted: 28 Apr 2017 21:48
by davidtoo
Hi All,

The Second Edition of this book on Queensland postmarks has just been uploaded onto the Toowoomba Stamp Club Website. Nearly all the changes and additions have been underlined for the reader to easily identify.

The exceptions are the illustrated postmarks and, obviously, the deletions which have been very few.


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It is available as a free download and thanks to the Toowoomba Stamp Club for allowing us to use their website. The link to the Club website is below, so have a look around before going to the publications tab to download the book

https://www.toowoombastampclub.org/images/qsd2.pdf

This update has been nearly three years since the first edition, so I expect the third edition will be available in about the same timeframe, depending on the number of changes.

So enjoy this edition of "Queensland Steel Datestamps - Commonwealth Period"

Thanks

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 28 Apr 2017 22:51
by muttly2011
A great resource indeed - many thanks to the authors for making this freely available and to the Toowoomba Stamp Club for hosting the download.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 29 Jan 2018 22:19
by Ubobo.R.O.
If you wish to provide new information for this work please provide images on this link.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 11:02
by Ubobo.R.O.
A new late date for Raby Bay.

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Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 12:29
by dwhopper
You really do have to check all those FDCs that you might usually just pass by. Like this example I have found many ERDs or LRDs on FDCs.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 13 Feb 2018 14:16
by Rod Perry
Posted at request of Terry:
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About to close on eBay: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/202220901864

Rod

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 13 Feb 2018 18:10
by Ubobo.R.O.
Thankyou Rod. This one is unlisted in our reference work.
I will give it a cursory rating of R to begin with.
Value would be at least double if it is "tied".
Any senders name on the back, Rod?

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 13 Feb 2018 21:51
by Rod Perry
Ubobo.R.O. wrote:Any senders name on the back, Rod?
Nup.

Any postmark heroes out there?

I have many more to scan, but is there the interest?

Email me.

Rod

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 25 Apr 2018 11:47
by ChrisGray
Woolloongabba, in blue ink (not mentioned in the list).

I've noticed some postmarks in the guide listed separately for blue ink, so forgive my ignorance if this is an unremarkable postmark.
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Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 25 Apr 2018 11:53
by Ubobo.R.O.
An excellent find Chris. I have seen a lot of type 1 Woolloongabba postmarks but not one in blue.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 11:51
by BigSaint
As requested Terry, a new late date for type 5, 20th April 1961:
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Prairie Queensland
Prairie is a town and locality in Shire of Flinders, Queensland. At the 2006 census, Prairie and the surrounding area had a population of 103. The town is on the Flinders Highway, 1,548 kilometres north west of Brisbane & 338 kilometres west of Townsville. The town is serviced by a hotel/motel (pub) & a cafe/post office. Prairie State School opened in 1894.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prairie,_Queensland
:)

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 23:23
by dwhopper
Can anybody get to the Toowoomba Stamp club web site? I have received out of service types messages recently.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 14 Jun 2018 00:13
by Ubobo.R.O.
dwhopper wrote:Can anybody get to the Toowoomba Stamp club web site? I have received out of service types messages recently.
http://www.toowoombastampclub.org/pubs.htm

No problems for me David. See if this works.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 14 Jun 2018 00:25
by dwhopper
Message is

Unable to connect

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The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
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If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.


Similar message in Microsoft Edge and Chrome.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 14 Jun 2018 00:26
by HalfpennyYellow
Clicking the link gave me a "This site can’t be reached" message. However, I was able to archive the PDF file. Here's the link so that the info will be preserved despite any possible link rot:

http://web.archive.org/web/20180613132054/http://www.toowoombastampclub.org/images/qsd2.pdf

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 14 Jun 2018 00:33
by Ubobo.R.O.
dwhopper wrote:Message is

Unable to connect

Firefox can’t establish a connection to the server at http://www.toowoombastampclub.org.

The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer’s network connection.
If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.


Similar message in Microsoft Edge and Chrome.
My first check was with Edge and now I have checked with Firefox. No problems with either but then again I am in Australia. Perhaps it's some sort of external problem.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 14 Jun 2018 00:49
by BigSaint
Terry

External to sunny Queensland because I am having the same issue in cold & rainy Melbourne on Google Chrome.

Brad 8)

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 14 Jun 2018 00:54
by Ubobo.R.O.
BigSaint wrote:Terry

External to sunny Queensland because I am having the same issue in cold & rainy Melbourne on Google Chrome.

Brad 8)
HalfpennyYellow provides the pdf link (20MB). See if that works Brad if you haven't already downloaded it.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 14 Jun 2018 01:20
by dwhopper
A work around is not what we want. An explanation of the issue is what we need. I contributed a lot to that publication and I want it to be available.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 15 Jun 2018 07:43
by dwhopper
Today I get a stronger message.

Request denied by WatchGuard HTTP Proxy.

Reason: Category 'Malicious Web Sites' denied by WebBlocker policy 'WebBlocker.QuickStart'.

Please contact your administrator for assistance.

More Details:

Method: GET

Host: http://www.toowoombastampclub.org

Path: /pubs.htm


Looks like some malware has infected the web site.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 15 Jun 2018 11:10
by Ubobo.R.O.
I assume that you have contacted David Price about this.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 15 Jun 2018 13:39
by davidtoo
I cannot find any issue. I have logged on from my home computer using chrome, edge and explorer no problem. My son is in Venice using a US based mobile and can log on, my sister is in melbourne and successfully logged on using a landline. I have just logged on thru the work computer with no problem. All of the above has been via searching for the site on the web.

I have logged on from iPad and iPhone no problem. I have clicked on the link in the supplied error message on the iPad and logged on successfully

I will contact the person who runs the website and see if he can find an issue. Otherwise I can only suggest the problem is at your end

Thanks

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 15 Jun 2018 14:39
by dwhopper
Every other web site on the planet works for me.

Something odd is going on and neither of us is knowledgable enough to resolve it.

And it is not limited to one person. Other also have this issue.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 15 Jun 2018 15:17
by Kainnikanada
dwhopper wrote:Every other web site on the planet works for me.
Something odd is going on and neither of us is knowledgable enough to resolve it.
And it is not limited to one person. Other also have this issue.
I'm in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada - no problem to download at 10:16 pm Mountain time on Thursday!

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 15 Jun 2018 19:37
by HalfpennyYellow
From Malta I'm unable to access any of the Toowoomba Stamp Club website (not just the PDF). When I click on the link the following comes up:
This site can’t be reached
www.toowoombastampclub.org’s server IP address could not be found.
Search Google for toowoomba stamp club org images qsd2
ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED
However, oddly enough, when I tried archiving the link (just add web.archive.org/save/ before the URL) I was able to do so. This suggests that the website is accessible from San Francisco, where the Internet Archive servers are presumably located.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 16 Jun 2018 07:32
by Lakatoi 4
I get the "Safari can't connect to the server" message on my iPad.

All other sites and links are fine.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 17 Jul 2018 12:47
by Staples
Either an ERD or LRD for Cairns, but first identifying the correct entry in Queensland Steel Datestamps.

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Dated 5 May 77 and its measurements match Smithies type 210. I therefore assume type 5s(i) should actually read 5st(i), or are the details for 5st and 5s(i) swapped arround?

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Regards

Staples

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 17 Jul 2018 13:06
by Ubobo.R.O.
I have just re measured my copy of 5st. Change Dell & Price measurements to 14.5, 15, 30.5.

The 220 in Smithies is not a postmark with time. It is one of the 5s types. Regards,Terry Dell.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 17 Jul 2018 13:11
by Staples
Thanks Terry.

A LRD for type 5st (with corrected measurements) it is.

I appreciate Smithies type 220 does not have time, I was referring to type 210 which does.

Regards

Staples

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 18 Aug 2018 10:14
by Browny
Hi Terry,
Here's a new ERD for Kuranda, type 1. (Tied with numeral 304)
Prev 11 SE 17.
This 5 years earlier at 28 AU 12.

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Cheers.
Browny.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 20 Aug 2018 10:47
by Ubobo.R.O.
Thankyou Browny.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 08 Sep 2018 12:12
by prtnz17
I recently acquired this cover in among a lot of other covers.

The cover itself is a bit of a trainwreck, sorry about the pun, but the two Cairns cancellations are testing me a little.

In the Dell and Price book and the Smithies book the ERD/LRD dates for both cancels are different to those on the cover.

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The Cairns (6) LRD is Aug 1978, and the ERD Unclaimed Cairns date with the SDL is 19 Aug 1981.

Any help appreciated.

Peter

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 08 Sep 2018 20:14
by Ubobo.R.O.
Thankyou for the new early date for the unclaimed and late date for the code 6.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 09 Sep 2018 16:05
by prtnz17
Terry,

Out of interest, what sort of rarity rating would you put on the Cairns Unclaimed?

Peter

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 09 Sep 2018 16:05
by prtnz17
Terry,

Out of interest, what sort of rarity rating would you put on the Cairns Unclaimed?

Peter

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 09 Sep 2018 19:08
by Ubobo.R.O.
My preliminary rating would be R.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 27 Sep 2018 19:49
by prtnz17
Terry,

Another not so good looking cover, but I think the Cairns (3) backstamp is earlier than that listed in the book.

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Peter

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 27 Sep 2018 20:00
by Ubobo.R.O.
Thankyou Peter. Both the Cairns code 3 and the Tolga postmarks are earlier dates.

What a great cover. Looks exactly like how a damaged in transit cover should! Scarce Darlinghurst handstamp.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 13 Oct 2018 10:01
by Staples
Here is an ERD for BINGERA PLANTATION Type 1(ii)

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Staples

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 13 Oct 2018 20:06
by Ubobo.R.O.
Thankyou for the update Staples.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 15 Oct 2018 10:46
by Ubobo.R.O.
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One to add to the manuscript listing. MOORLAND. Dated later than the current MOORLANDS listing. A PPA listing.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 16 Oct 2018 15:25
by jeremy29
Re the manuscript listings, I have updated them separately if you want to trawl through them and include in your listing :-)

http://queenslandmanuscriptcancellations.blogspot.com/

Jeremy

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 16 Dec 2018 13:49
by Browny
Hi Terry,

Here's a really nice pick-up I found in a mixed lot from overseas:

Westbrook Siding proving cover with numeral 300 type 2A.
Sent Westbrook Siding 24 Feb 1901 to Broken Hills, NSW, via Sydney (Backstamped Feb 25 1901).

Unframed Westbrook Siding listed in 1st edition as RRR in Cowan & Dell. (Not noted edition 2??)

Numeral 300 type 2a listed in Manning as RRRRR. (Messy strike, but legible!)

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Cheers.
Browny.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 16 Dec 2018 14:35
by Ubobo.R.O.
Dell & Price deals with Commonwealth period Browny. We leave the state period to Bernie Manning.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 18 Dec 2018 21:11
by ChrisGray
Possibly a stupid question; wouldn't that be a duplex and not a separate unframed CDS and numeral?

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 18 Dec 2018 23:11
by Ubobo.R.O.
Not a duplex. Westbrook Siding far too small to warrant a duplex canceller.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 31 Dec 2018 10:19
by Browny
Hi again Terry,

Following is a windowed advertising cover with PAID / BEAUDESERT cds dated 28 SE 51.
(With 3½d in dateline.)

I believe an ERD?
What rating would you give this cds?

Cheers.
Browny.

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Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 31 Dec 2018 10:25
by Ubobo.R.O.
Even though it is only the second date recorded my preliminary rating would be R.

This would change over time if paids become more popular.

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 31 Dec 2018 10:44
by Browny
Ubobo.R.O.

Post subject:
Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Even though it is only the second date recorded my preliminary rating would be R.

This would change over time if paids become more popular.
Thanks for above Terry.

Also, have you come across the following ORS previously?:
Brisbane / paid / /1 / Queensland.
(40mm long x 28mm high ORS.)

It is on an OHMS Government Savings bank cover.

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Cheers.
Browny

Re: Queensland Steel Datestamps Commonwealth Period 2nd Edit

Posted: 31 Dec 2018 10:49
by Browny
Hi again Terry,

Here is an ERD for Mackay 5s(ii): 28 AP 69.

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Backstamped:
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Have you come across this CALLED / MACKAY ORS previously?:

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Cheers.
Browny.