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Which is the best catalogue for France and Colonies stamps?

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I have been using the SG French specialised catalogue for years but just purchased a copy of the Spink/Maury 2016 edition and it absolutely blows the SG out of the water, incredible detail.

Over 1200 pages so much detail and every stamp in colour.Best catalogue I have ever seen.

All evidence of the fantastic knowledge I have picked up on this board!!!
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Re: Spink/Maury French catalogue

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Hi,
Is it in French, English or both?
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Re: Spink/Maury French catalogue is superb

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Its in French, easy enough to get round the terminology with google though and so many pictures showing errors etc.
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Spink also has some copies of the 2011-2012 Maury Catalog for French Colonies/Offices/Occupation Stamps in Europe and Asia, including Saar, Post-1945 French Zone Germany, French PO in Ottoman Empire, French India, French Indochina and French Offices in China.

Again for £10.00 plus postage

Has been out of print so guessing this might be some remainder stock, and perhaps a sign an update will be produced by Spink in the near future. Great Catalog with a wealth of specialized info not found in Yvert or any other catalog.

https://spinkbooks.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=88&product_id=310
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Is there a French Polynesia Specialized Stamp Catalog?

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I have recently developed a keen interest in the stamps of French Polynesia and was wondering if there is, or ever has been, a specialized catalog available?
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I would check if Yvert & Tellier would be good enough.

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kuikka wrote:I would check if Yvert & Tellier would be good enough.
I considered that but my French (I had one year in high school) is lacking.
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YT is VERY easy to follow. I understand almost no French, but can read most of it.
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Global Administrator wrote:YT is VERY easy to follow. I understand almost no French, but can read most of it.
Moi aussi! (It means me too!)

The columns are in the same order as every other major catalogue, the prices are in Euro which is a bit bigger than a dollar and a bit smaller than a pound (at the moment!) and they measure perforations and years in the same way as the rest of us.

If you scribble a translation of the main colours bleu, vert, rouge, jaune, noir etc on a bit of paper and keep it on your desk, you'll be good to go. :idea:

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Re: Is there a French Polynesia Specialized Stamp Catalog?

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Yvert & Tellier is as basic as Scott for French Polynesia.

You'll get quite a bit more info by going to Maury. You'll need the DOM / TOM volume which is out-of-print but can be found occasionally on Delcampe either as new or used.

It also is in French but very easy to understand as it consists of lists and, EVERY SINGLE STAMP IS PICTURED! in high quality colour photos.

NOT SO IN Y&T, by a very very long shot. It only has a few small and blurry photos.

What you can't figure out you can always post to the France and French Colonies stamps- Discussion Thread https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56596 where many native French speakers and other French Colonies collectors will help all they can.

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Thanks for the replies. I think that I might keep my eye out for the Maury.
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I second the recommendation for Maury for any French Colonies collector - each volume is an absolute goldmine of information and easy enough to use with the occasional search via google translator if needed. Definitely worth hunting down in the second-hand market (and hopefully Spink, who now own the copyright to Maury and appear to have made a success with their issuing of new editions of the main France catalog, will start producing new editions of the various Colonial catalogs Maury developed that have now been out of print in some cases close to a decade)
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Yvert and Tellier Catalogs - How much detail is in them ?

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Hello - I was hoping someone who has a Y and T France Vol. 1 catalog could tell me what it contains versus the petit (pocket) size version which is about 10 euros less? More detail, variations, etc.?

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http://www.phil-ouest.com/Series.php?Nom_serie=Marianne_2018

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I have no pocket version, so I cannot compare them. When I get home tonight I can scan you the index of my Y&T France (I assume that is the same as part 1).

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Here is the index from the back cover of Y&T Tome 1 (France), 2017

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I suggest you also have a look at the two-volume Maury catalogue for France published by Spink:

https://spinkbooks.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=557
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Best reference catalogues for France J A Sage design stamps?

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I have Scott, Yvert, Maury|Spinks, and Maury Ceres & Dallay

The latter is the oldest (2009) but it seems the most detailed with regards to Type "states (IIA, IIB, etc) and color shades (many of which are not covered in some of the other catalogues.

Is there anything more detailed? (that's not impossible to find)?

My French is improving, so an English version is not required

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You may try the Marianne 1849-1900 catalog. Issued just before the euro, so prices in french francs. For the Sage issue, types (I, II, III) are described, and also sub-types (yes there are sub-types for some stamps).

It also describes the shades, with their year of issue.

And it is also an excellent catalog for other issues than Sage.
Prices are quite nearer the actual retail than what is the case for other catalogs. The numbering is different from other catalogs.

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May be found rather cheap, e.g. on Delcampe :

https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collections/timbres/catalogues-d ... 75053.html

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Thank you both!

I am on TSF ( I currently have a thread on France Sage Type I,II,III) and have the link to the Worldstamp project.

I will order Marianne today. the more information the better especially with respect to states/sub-types as some of depictions of detains in the other catalogues is not real clear, and the low resolution doesn't allow for much magnification without pixelation!

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France: Maury Stamp Catalogue: Which recent edition is best?

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I've read conflicting reviews in French and English about some recent editions ("rush job", "incomplete") etc.

Not interested in post-2000 stamps nor up to date values so any edition after 2010 is in the reckoning.

Which one is best?
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The cheapest one, if you do not care about being up to date.
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Ha ha! I've seen one for about the price of 12 cans of Carling so that may do!

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What a tough call - one of the world's finest stamp catalogues, or a few cans of weak 3.7%, warm, "lager". :mrgreen:
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I have the 2018 Spink/Maury Edition and the 2011 Maury.

Both are titled "Timbres de France". The 2011 is soft cover and for my money the hard cover 2018 will last much longer. However, they seem to have lost much of the useful introductory information such as the useful tables of CaD types with dates, detailed explanations of pricing covers according to the markings, destinations and so on. Some of the datestamp information is located further into the catalogue in the 2018 but its not as extensive. The 2018 hard cover goes to 1960 (Vol 1 hard cover); Vol 2 is softcover and goes from 1960 to 2001.

The two catalogues differ in where information is located and I can't give you a detailed comparison. I only use limited sections, not the whole cataloge.

The earlier Maury seems to have more information but is less likely cope well with a lot of use due to the binding. I expect the spine to split sooner rather than later. Both however are excellent and far superior to say the SG France.

I paid only E29 for the 2018 but did not have to pay postage as I bought while in France. The 2011 was even cheaper but with postage on to was a lot more in total.

The only other French catalogue in the same league (in my experience) is the Y & T "Timbres de France. Le Specialise". If you are seriously into French stamps to 1900 then I think you need this as well. It's better than the Maury in some respects and has a lot more detail about plate flaws and shades. Its much more expensive and more expensive to post. The quality of binding and printing in the Y&T is excellent.

PS I should have added that the type size in the Maurys is VERY small and I find it hard to read in bad light. The Y & T is a much easier read.

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Best catalogue for pre 1950 French stamps

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I have recently started collecting the issues of France - ending about 1950.

I have an old SG French catalogue. I am aware of Y and T, also Maury. I can read French.

What would you advise?

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Collecting France and colonies I use Maury a lot and I'm very happy with it.

I never used Yvert et Tellier, in the past I used Cérès, then Dallay, then Arthur Maury when Dallay was sold to Maury and then sold to Spink.

Maury catalogues have more infos than Y&T. However Some vintages were just copy and past especially around the time of the sale to Spink.

One of the best year is the 2009, very detailed and comes in two volumes. If you don't really bother with an "in-depth" catalogue any of the Dallay, Maury or Maury/Spink will do.

For the French colonies Maury is the best. Alas I don't know when a new catalogue will be released.
The last one for the African colonies is dated 2015 and for the European and Asian colonies or foreign offices, it is from 2012.

I've contacted Spink and I'm still waiting for their response.

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To my experience I will say Maury.

I've posted under another thread a comment on it.

"Which recent edition is the best" originally posted by DRH

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I agree with Ceres that the Maury is very good and have also commented on the other Topic comparing Maury 2011 and Maury/Spink 2018 .

I have found however that the very best catalogue for specialised study is the Yvert et Tellier "Le Specialise". This is nit the standard Y & T edition. I have the first vol 1849-1900. This was published in 2000 so prices will be out of date, however. Still, it will give a good guide. It has useful introductory information and at least two pages per issue listing shades, plate flaws where appropriate and other varieties. It's a so a very nicely printed book with hard cover and dust jacket, solid as a rock. The type size and page size is larger than Maury, which I find a bit hard to read due to my advanced years.

However its much more expensive and may prove difficult to find. I cant see an ISBN for some reason, I found a copy new on Del Campe after some searching

This catalogue was recommended to me by a French collector and specialist with many years of experience and study behind him .

The Maury in any recent edition will still serve you much better than the SG.

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Which is the best catalogue for France and Colonies stamps?

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Many thanks, Glen and all the other contributors. I'll have a shop around for a poat-2009 Maury.

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Brand new for 10 quid for THREE volumes is hard to beat!

https://spinkbooks.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=88&product_id=414
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I bought many pages of these on ancient pages. Do any of the mainstream France cats list and price this kind of stuff? More pages here -

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=89314

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Hi,

The Maury France catalog for 2018 is being sold by Spink for GBP10.

Also, many of the old Dallay catalogs are available for GBP 15 each.

Dallay 2005 - 2006 - Catalogue de cotations de Timbres d'Andorre, Monaco, Terres Australes, Europa for GBP15

Dallay 2006 - 2007 - Catalogue des bureaux francais, anciennes coloies, et zones d'occupation en Europe et Asie for GBP15

These are superb catalogs. Highly detailed and very useful.

Use the link Glen posted and then go up one level (click on Stamps).

Or http://spinkbooks.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=88

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I bought many pages of these on ancient pages. Do any of the mainstream France cats list and price this kind of stuff? More pages here -

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=89314

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These look like Poster stamps which were apparently once very popular with collectors. I say this because "Affiche" means "Poster" in English and there were a lot of poster stamps issued by France until WWI. Basically a type of advertising label. (As Cinderellas, they are not listed in Maury/Dallay. I doubt they are listed in any French stamp catalog.)

The type across some of them suggests they were applied to Newspapers prior to printing. This was a popular way of canceling postage stamps on many newspapers in the late 19thC. Hence I checked the Newspaper stamps, which are listed in /Maury listings but no sign of these. Proper newspaper stamps are labelled "Journeaux"

No idea of value.

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These paid the tax on posters and broadsides displayed in public.

They are Revenue Stamps, listed in Forbin and in the Y&T revenue catalog.
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Global Administrator wrote:Brand new for 10 quid for THREE volumes is hard to beat!

https://spinkbooks.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=88&product_id=414
Very many thanks for posting this.

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Global Administrator wrote:Brand new for 10 quid for THREE volumes is hard to beat!

https://spinkbooks.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=88&product_id=414
Amazing value. :D

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Global Administrator wrote:Brand new for 10 quid for THREE volumes is hard to beat!

https://spinkbooks.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=88&product_id=414
Very many thanks for posting this.
The superb hard cover La Collection La Fayette is worth treble that on its own!
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Even more thanks to Glen and co....just ordered that triple pack from Spink.
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The Maury catalogues arrived today, less than two days later! Look lovely. Didn't get a free Fayette with the order so I have emailed them.

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Got my new Spink/Maury catalogues in Canada within 2 days of ordering and very impressed with them. But I won't be able to get rid of my older edition as commemorative stamps are only catalogued to 1960.

And also got the superb Collection La Fayette book with it.

Must be the drh email worked! :D

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I believe post 1960 commemoratives are in part II (soft cover) of that catalogue.

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Spink have sent an email apologising and promising to send La Fayette now.

Great service! Much better than Amazon.

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Re: Which is the best catalogue for France and Colonies stam

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Great tip, thanks, ordered one as well. These are ludicrously cheap compared to other similar catalogs.
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Re: Which is the best catalogue for France and Colonies stam

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kuikka wrote:I believe post 1960 commemoratives are in part II (soft cover) of that catalogue.
You're right. I shouldn't be posting after midnight. :oops:

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Re: Which is the best catalogue for France and Colonies stam

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Now if Spink would start new editions of the French Colonial catalogs that Maury produced....
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Re: Which is the best catalogue for France and Colonies stam

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drh wrote:Spink have sent an email apologising and promising to send La Fayette now.

Great service! Much better than Amazon.
And it arrived today!

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