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If that is lemon yellow I suspect you need to check your imaging calibration.

It looks mighty like yellow orange on my screen.

The yellow orange shade was probably still being used by that date, even though the lemon shade had been printed a few months earlier

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rsellens wrote:
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I picked up this KGV 4d lemon yellow with inverted watermak on Ebay the other day for $20.50 including postage.


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Sounds about right!! :D How did you get a CV of $1500??

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satsuma wrote:
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If that is lemon yellow I suspect you need to check your imaging calibration.

It looks mighty like yellow orange on my screen.

The yellow orange shade was probably still being used by that date, even though the lemon shade had been printed a few months earlier
Unfortunately imaging gives a false impression of colour.

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Pampstamp wrote:
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Sounds about right!! :D How did you get a CV of $1500??
Suggest you turn over a couple of pages.

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Using a mixed metaphor 'never pull the trigger till you have turned over the page' (or two in this instance)!

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Derbyboi2 wrote:
12 May 2021 22:23
Using a mixed metaphor 'never pull the trigger till you have turned over the page' (or two in this instance)!
To right!! You learn something everyday :D
(so long as you agree its lemon yellow)!!

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I would always pass on making comment on a scanned image. All my 5/- roos although wonderfully yellow come out in a yellow-orange shade on my scanner!

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I would always pass on making comment on a scanned image. All my 5/- roos although wonderfully yellow come out in a yellow-orange shade on my scanner!
Why do not scan the stamp side-by-side with the respective colour reference, see sample here...
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Why do not scan the stamp side-by-side with the respective colour reference, see sample here...
Or why not assume that rsellens knows what he is talking about? He is clearly a knowledgeable collector of this sort of material. :idea:

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Ebay a couple of weeks ago.
1st wmk 3d roo Die 2 , CV $400.
A couple of nibbled perfs and not a great stamp but still not bad for $3.25.

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Some nice buys there. 8-)
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What does "lime-yellow" look like? Didn't even realize that is a color.

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erich wrote:
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What does "lime-yellow" look like? Didn't even realize that is a color.
A pale, bright yellow with a slight greenish tinge. Note that the lime & lemon shades are notoriously hard to scan.

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Hi All

I was told and I've found it to be true that the watermark can be seen very clearly on the print side of a Lime-yellow 4d KGV.

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For those looking for a bargain, have a look at Abbey Auctions site in Melbourne. Usually a household effects auction, they seem to have obtained an unusually good stamp collection.

Some useful Great Britain, Canada etc earlies and errors plus some bulk.

Not sure of the provenance so best suited to those who know what they are looking at.

Disclosure, I am not connected with Abbey auctions, have never bid with them nor ever been to their premises

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gdmcon wrote:
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Hi All

I was told and I've found it to be true that the watermark can be seen very clearly on the print side of a Lime-yellow 4d KGV.
Unfortunately pale lemon examples can also show the watermark prominently from the front so this is not a foolproof test.

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re. Abbeys Auctions,

Virtually all Australian States as well as many other classics are common almost worthless poor quality forgeries.

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Thanks David, very helpful.

Any opinions on the errors?

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I think the British Commonwealth errors are kosher.

A prominent dealer in the UK liked the look of them.

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rsellens wrote:
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gdmcon wrote:
05 Jun 2021 15:14
Hi All

I was told and I've found it to be true that the watermark can be seen very clearly on the print side of a Lime-yellow 4d KGV.
Unfortunately pale lemon examples can also show the watermark prominently from the front so this is not a foolproof test.

For all the 4d LEMON family this is pretty much true. :lol:
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towradji wrote:
07 Jun 2021 16:12
Thanks David, very helpful.

Any opinions on the errors?
For the Canada errors, I would not consider bidding without looking at them in person. Very easy to fake.

Some do look Ok though and maybe a bargain to be had for someone local.

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Perhaps not the greatest bargin in the world but i was happy with these from ebay recently; Belgium Orval Abbey 1928 full set FU (higher values may even be postally used!) for £10. Orval Abbey is one of my secret likes and these are not so common in Scotland. Catalogue; well, no idea! my Benelux SG pt4 is from 1983 and has them at £75 so i suspect that has changed a little in the past 38 years.


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Yes, Rehautala and with a Covid lockdown happening in Melbourne no viewing this week. With viewing only available on Wednesday & Thursday time will tell if there is any viewing next week.

Mind you, the Abbey software is not as sophisticated as ebay so you can see bidder patterns. One bidder has bid on multiple yet selective lots. Might be an ebay bunny as is so often referred to here but maybe not. Might be a knowledgeable bidder who is not a poker player and has bid all at once without realizing the pattern that emerges.

Time will tell, well, there are plenty of tells really.

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towradji wrote:
07 Jun 2021 12:01
For those looking for a bargain, have a look at Abbey Auctions site in Melbourne. Usually a household effects auction, they seem to have obtained an unusually good stamp collection.

Some useful Great Britain, Canada etc earlies and errors plus some bulk.

Not sure of the provenance so best suited to those who know what they are looking at.

Disclosure, I am not connected with Abbey auctions, have never bid with them nor ever been to their premises
Being a curious sort that likes to dig into small auctions, I took a quick look at the Canada and Provinces. The auction house will benefit from the exposure here, the material could have been bought for a song otherwise.

Several of the Nova Scotia classics are Spiro forgeries, they are collectible but worth a fraction of the real deal. Seems an honest mistake by an auction house that does not have in-house philatelists, so caveat emptor.

The modern errors look "right", but none are particularly rare and were bought at high retail. There is a decent market for them. I recall one of the dealers listed on a masthead, he was reputable and dealt in better material.

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Many thanks. My objective was to bring it to attention of the general readers here. Someone may pick up a bargain if they know what they are looking at.

I may bid but only on 1 lot and doubt that is a forgery

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Alchemy68 wrote:
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Catalogue; well, no idea! my Benelux SG pt4 is from 1983 and has them at £75 so i suspect that has changed a little in the past 38 years.


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For Belgium, it is probably LOWER now than then! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Global Administrator wrote:
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Alchemy68 wrote:
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Catalogue; well, no idea! my Benelux SG pt4 is from 1983 and has them at £75 so i suspect that has changed a little in the past 38 years.


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For Belgium, it is probably LOWER now than then! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, Belgium is a little bit unloved... shame, their between the wars stuff can be stunning and is not seen in public too often here.

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Alchemy68 wrote:
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Perhaps not the greatest bargin in the world but i was happy with these from ebay recently; Belgium Orval Abbey 1928 full set FU (higher values may even be postally used!) for £10. Orval Abbey is one of my secret likes and these are not so common in Scotland. Catalogue; well, no idea! my Benelux SG pt4 is from 1983 and has them at £75 so i suspect that has changed a little in the past 38 years.


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Latest SG catalogue (2015) has them at £90 and 2019 COB at €90

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deltic1575 wrote:
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Latest SG catalogue (2015) has them at £90 and 2019 COB at €90
Somebody must have a 2021 Stamps of the World which would show Gibbons latest price.
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norvic wrote:
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deltic1575 wrote:
08 Jun 2021 19:09

Latest SG catalogue (2015) has them at £90 and 2019 COB at €90
Somebody must have a 2021 Stamps of the World which would show Gibbons latest price.
I doubt there'll be much change.
What is noticeable from eBay sales is that the mint hinged auction realizations (commonly quoted as 100 euro catalogue) lag hugely behind unhinged, catalogued four times as much but which typically sell for five or six times as much...

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This lot hasn't arrived yet, but looks like it could be a reasonable buy.

A total of 232 booklets between SB30 (1952) and SB200 (2006). Plenty of overprints (spotted the '94 Lifesaving "Orange Blossom" opt, Pfeffer CV $85), koala/roo reprints & who knows what else.

Cost £131 with post, so £0.56 per booklet.

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Plus UK VAT 20%?
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norvic wrote:
08 Jun 2021 19:34
deltic1575 wrote:
08 Jun 2021 19:09

Latest SG catalogue (2015) has them at £90 and 2019 COB at €90
Somebody must have a 2021 Stamps of the World which would show Gibbons latest price.
I thought SOTW 2021 didn't exist, because of the Covid.

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You may be right. There with be one this year
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