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This particular item has been listed for sale on eBay for the last 6 days,, it is the first watermark kangaroo,, ever so slightly hinged,,

There is just something about this stamp I don't like it is just so perfect in almost every way,, can anybody pick up any forgery,, tampering ??



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The perfs certainly look strange. The bottom ones particularly are not straight.
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It is currently with just over a day to go [at] $ 2100.00,

I don't know anything about reperfing, or how to identify it , it just looks too good to be true !!

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A link to the item would help, mate.
Then we can see the other side, sellers history, other items etc...

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One-stop-stamp-shop

Sydney Australia

I am by no means trying to discredit this particular seller or his item in any way,, BUT.,...

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Bill H UK wrote:
08 Aug 2021 21:07
A link to the item would help, mate.
Then we can see the other side, sellers history, other items etc...
Here is the link on ebay to this one!!

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/334090347940

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Jezza wrote:
08 Aug 2021 22:06
One-stop-stamp-shop

Sydney Australia

I am by no means trying to discredit this particular seller or his item in any way,, BUT.,...
Here are some comments on this board of the seller!!
https://stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=79177

Sellers description

£2 Pink
1st Watermark
mint
sent with insurance
Great Item
- Must Have -

I smell a rat :lol: :lol:
Why would an experienced seller state a key stamp like that as pink??
Also fails to mention variety ACSC 55(V)e broken tail on roo?

IMO it has been re gummed ( gum has redistributed) and it looks washed.
May have been used , cant tell if it has a thin or not due to poor images.

Nevertheless even as used it has a CV of $6250!!

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/334090347940
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The seller's scan isn't crisp, but it's readily obvious the stamp has issues on the gum side - uneven toning or staining.

The seller is selling around 10,000 items a month on eBay, based on feedback around this level. He's been flagged before, as not providing descriptions of faults.

He doesn't describe anything he lists, just a scan for the buyer to make their own judgements - and take their own risks.

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Not a "dreamer" then, so the posts on this subject have been split into a separate thread with a more descriptive heading.


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The perfs look fine.

The rear, as noted, looks nasty. This should have been shown in the first place.

The front looks a bit yellowed along the base, though this may be the lighting.

The stamp has the variety "Broken tail on Kangaroo", CV $14,500.
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Thank you for the feedback POM,,,,.
So you are happy to call this a genuine stamp,, or one that may have been tampered with. ??

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Jezza wrote:
07 Aug 2021 17:10

it is just so perfect in almost every way


Folks like you are why this seller thrives.

He describes it as - Seller Notes: “Excellent” - MUST HAVE

And you in turn tells us it looks perfect in almost every way.

WRONG. It it HEAVILY and unevenly age toned/stained Jezza .. newsflash for you. Save your $2200, and make a visit to Specsavers instead.

None of dopey bidders can see that reality - as usual.

Seller of course does not mention that very trivial point, and you and the other Bunnies do not notice that very minor detail either. A Train Wreck made in heaven. Even if that gum is soaked off, the stamp will be discoloured unevenly on the front. The red colour will be uneven. That is how it works with these.

Bring your EBARRGGGHAIN to me or a real dealer one day, and you'll get offered a FRACTION what you were ripped off for. Then the tears start, and as usual, the DEALERS are the demons in the piece. :roll:

No problems. 46 dopey ebayers have already gone into a frenzy to $2200, and given the BRAIN DEAD usual pantomime in there it will go far higher.

Jezza will have endless blind mates going into a slather over it.

Idiots.

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The problem with one-stop-shop is their huge turnover and failure to properly describe what they are selling. This is due to either laziness or just churning stuff out.

They sold an extremely decent NWPI collection recently with scant description but including a fine 1st watermark 5/- 10/- and £1.

Their customer service however leaves much to be desired as does their astronomic international postal charges.

Gems to be had but caveat emptor as ever.

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Glen,, I clearly stated that my experience with re gumming & reperfing was exceptionally Limited, and I asked a normal question about other members opinion on this item

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09 Aug 2021 18:06

Glen,, I clearly stated that my experience with re gumming & reperfing was exceptionally Limited, and I asked a normal question about other members opinion on this item

It is not regummed, and it is not reperfed.

It is BADLY toned/stained - that a Blind Nun can see.

If you cannot pick any of the above, stay totally away from ebay is excellent advice. Or you will doubtless join the Bunny Army.

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Just sold for $5,799.

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wilbaer wrote:
09 Aug 2021 20:25

Just sold for $5,799.

It is ebay -- the land with a brain bypass as the entry ticket. As predicted.

I sold a very nice CLEAN one last month for $5,000.

And in 10 times time, THAT will be very saleable as a clean MVLH example.

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No problems. 46 dopey ebayers have already gone into a frenzy to $2,200, and given the BRAIN DEAD usual pantomime in there, it will go far higher.

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MH CV is $14,500 so the buyer pays 40% CV.

While it doesn't worth $5,799, what is the fair value with such condition ? Thanks.

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danyeung wrote:
09 Aug 2021 23:30
MH CV is $14,500 so the buyer pays 40% CV.

While it doesn't worth $5,799, what is the fair value with such condition ? Thanks.

Even though the stamp is very well centered the main issue its heavily toned/foxed at the back!!

Leaving it will probably deteriorate further and may infect others.

So the new buyer can leave it and risk it, or bath it in hot water with a drop of washing liquid and see
what happens. As Glen stated high chance "the stamp will be discoloured unevenly on the front. The red colour will be uneven."

Say the new buyer baths it and stops the rot and it doesn't discolour? At that money I would be nervous!! It then becomes unused with no gum. CV for used $6250 with variety.

That the new benchmark!!

Good luck getting your money back when it comes to resell it!! :D

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Hi Pampstamp,

Agreed.

Just wonder how such stamp is priced. Is 10% or 20% of the new benchmark $6,250 a fair go ? Thanks

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danyeung wrote:
10 Aug 2021 00:30
Hi Pampstamp,

Agreed.

Just wonder how such stamp is priced. Is 10% or 20% of the new benchmark $6,250 a fair go ? Thanks
Danyeung

Don’t forget this is a key Australian stamp!
IMHO its value would be determined on how it presents after a bath. :D

IF ( and that’s a big if) it presents fine with NO discolouring or other faults, then because its so well centered what was paid would be close to fair value say ($5000). Resale is another story!

Personally I don’t like unused stamps with no gum as it means it usually has these problems with resale an issue !!

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We can look at the prices for 1st Watermark £2 Roo's at the latest Abacus auction from 5th August 2021 - a good barometer of the current market. https://www.abacusauctions.com.au/Auction/245/Lot-Order/3

This unused example went for $2,800 + add-ons = $3,400 invoiced:
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This mint lightly hinged example can be bought right now for around $5,500 (invoiced) as an unsold:
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The $5,799 for the One-stop-stamp-shop example looks quite pricey now in comparison. It's more comparable to the unused example at $3,400 than the one with sound gum at $5,500 (which is still cheaper!)

Glen mentioned he sold a nice mint one last week at $5k. So we have a few examples that suggest the buyer has easily overpaid by a four figure sum in the current market. They could have purchased a clean gum example for around the same cost, or less.

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Pampstamp wrote:
08 Aug 2021 22:23

Here are some comments on this board of the seller!!

https://stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=79177

Agree - "one-stop-stamp-shop" is a widely recognised shill bidder and seller of fakes and bad faults never mentioned. Bad thins, toning, tears, missing corners, fiscal cancels all get called ''EXCELLENT''

Leave a negative, and they phone eBay and have it removed as agreed by several here -

https://stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=79177


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Very sound advice from GregBear61. Look at what these sell for in real auctions before buying.

Don't buy a Aust £2 Roo on ebay. Simple. Where do you think one-stop-stamp-shop got it from?

If you are buying FU or MH, buy the best quality you can afford. Pass on anything too ugly - you won't get your money back in the future.

The toned gum should come off. It then becomes a no gum example worth half what was paid for it.

Expensive lesson for someone. :roll: :roll:

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What's the best that if the seller had listed this has a buy-it-now for $4000, it would still be for sale...

I think this auction listing says more about the eBay bunnies out there, and what they go mad for when things are listed at a low reserve. That seller has the market flooded with auction listings, all at low reserves, and many bidders are likely return customers with an eye out for what they deem a bargeen...

But after how many years, seems most bidders still have not learnt to snipe in the last minute :lol:

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10 Aug 2021 20:01
What's the best that if the seller had listed this has a buy-it-now for $4000, it would still be for sale...

I think this auction listing says more about the eBay bunnies out there, and what they go mad for when things are listed at a low reserve. That seller has the market flooded with auction listings, all at low reserves, and many bidders are likely return customers with an eye out for what they deem a bargeen...

But after how many years, seems most bidders still have not learnt to snipe in the last minute :lol:

All part of the fun, though, isn't it?

I never deal in the rarefied area of four-figure stamps, but I recently listed an FID 1954 ships set, MH.

1. Buy it now for £35 -no takers
2. Auction starting at £25 - no takers
3. Auction starting at 99p - sold for £42

People get competitive, and 'won't be beaten' - or maybe you have to sell it for £1.68. That's the risk, and the fun.

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Bill H UK wrote:
10 Aug 2021 20:18
Catweazle wrote:
10 Aug 2021 20:01
What's the best that if the seller had listed this has a buy-it-now for $4000, it would still be for sale...

I think this auction listing says more about the eBay bunnies out there, and what they go mad for when things are listed at a low reserve. That seller has the market flooded with auction listings, all at low reserves, and many bidders are likely return customers with an eye out for what they deem a bargeen...

But after how many years, seems most bidders still have not learnt to snipe in the last minute :lol:

All part of the fun, though, isn't it?

I never deal in the rarefied area of four-figure stamps, but I recently listed an FID 1954 ships set, MH.

1. Buy it now for £35 -no takers
2. Auction starting at £25 - no takers
3. Auction starting at 99p - sold for £42

People get competitive, and 'won't be beaten' - or maybe you have to sell it for £1.68. That's the risk, and the fun.
Yes I notice this particularly when selling GB QV surface printed covers, buy it now rarely works for these even at decent prices but starting them at 99p usually results in competitive bidding and a higher final price.

One recent example involved two near identical covers I listed with the 1876 8d orange (SG 156). I listed both initially as buy it nows at £49.99 each. Neither sold so I kept one as buy it now and started the other at 99p. That one sold for over £90 after 7 days, despite the fact those bidders could have just purchased my second 8d cover for £49.99 which was still listed!
Madness.

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I find the same thing with eBay lots -- you start it at £4.99 a few times, it doesn't sell, you drop it to 2.99 and it goes for £7, etc etc.

So instead of making use of one's vast knowledge of what things should be worth, it often makes more sense just to start it all at 99p ...

On the other hand, it can be quite galling when an item you know to be worth decent money gets snapped up by another dealer for peanuts, only for him to re-sell at a much higher price.

The crazy world of eBay!!

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Interesting, this same item has came up for sale from the same seller.

According to the ACSC, there is no postally used copies recognised the seller's comments were CTO,

Interested in members thoughts.

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Jezza .. when were your eyes last tested? :?: :?:

That is a Third Watermark CTO stamp. A Blind Nun can see that. See the big black letters under it saying THIRD WATERMARK? That is your clue. The corner cancel is your clue it is CTO. Pretty easy huh?

The one you were bleating about before above was a MINT 1913 FIRST watermark stamp.

Sorry to give you the newsflash, but they are DIFFERENT.

i.e. they are not the same stamp.

Collecting expensive Roos might NOT be the hobby for you, if you cannot pick mint from used and think 1st and 3rd watermarks are the same?

Your apparent very favourite spiv FakeBay seller "One-stop-stamp-shop" is currently offering a totally faked 5/- Bridge cover below.

105% forged. You can't tell that of course, if you can't sort mint from used, but trust me on this!

A heavily bleached no gum 5/- Bridge has been added in recent years and a fake ''bottle top'' cancel added too.

Please report it to eBay, or some FakeBay Bunny will pay $1500 for it. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Low values are very plentiful on covers.

This is just misleading fiction -

''5/- Bridge Cover RARE Seldom seen - RARE''

Seller "One-stop-stamp-shop" has been advised and does nothing - report it to FakeBay - spend your money with reputable cons like that if you choose. Do not line the pockets of scammers. Their track record is there for all to see.

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3422&start=350


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Maybe you can't read,, I asked for members comments on the item,,

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Hi Jezza, you need to ask clearer questions rather than asking for people's "thoughts".

Are you asking: "is this postally used or CTO?"

It is not postally used. The seller says CTO. It probably isn't a later bottle top "cancel", so it must be CTO as per the vendor's listing.

Those are my thoughts anyway. :idea: :geek: :idea:

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Jezza wrote:
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Maybe you can't read,, I asked for members comments on the item,,

I can read perfectly, and you said the same item was up for sale again.

WRONG. You are in a little ebay dream world of your own.

The seller says it is CTO. A Blind Nun can see it is CTO. The ACSC clearly says no postally used copies are known. What other ''comments'' do you seek?

It will sell for market price in the last 4 seconds as always - forget the insane current bids.

The only one who cannot read (or type) is you - you do use 2 commas in every post that I am sick of editing out.

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mrei6448 is now attempting to sell his dubious 'stamps' on Trade-Me yet again.

Nevertheless, he does seem to get the odd bite for his "Repros"
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He's also selling blocks of 4 for $23.00.....I guess that extra toner is expensive, but "You get what you pay for".

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GreyWarbler wrote:
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mrei6448 is now attempting to sell his dubious 'stamps' on Trade-Me yet again.

Nevertheless, he does seem to get the odd bite for his "Repros"

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He's also selling blocks of 4 for $23.00.....I guess that extra toner is expensive, but "You get what you pay for".
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Even though it is clearly REPRO in the heading, the description still refers to it as 'This stamp ...' and SG Catalog/value etc.

It is not a stamp, but a bit of printed paper with no catalogue value, period.

Misleading.

They are nothing but scammers (from one who was bitten in the past from them).
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Wonder what's printed on the back?

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The first item I bought from ONE-STOP-STAMP-SHOP took over three months to arrive notwithstanding their high postage charges. It was as described and inexpensive apart from the postage. A single stamp arrived in a very large express air mail cardboard envelope (completely unnecessary) and I had difficulty locating it in a bottom corner!

I have subsequently bought one other item from them which I await with interest as it was keenly contested albeit with a starting price of $A1 and not properly described.

I shall post it when it arrives as it SHOULD be an extremely rare NWPI mint pair of the 6d bright ultramarine Die 2b (SG110aa) to be unpriced in the next Part 1. As I already have the MNH 'discovery pair' for which I obtained a BPA cert earlier this year I wanted to ensure I had the only other copies to appear on the market. Although affected by very slight toning at the foot it was still well worth the money spent 'IF' it turns out to be what I expect it to be (and three other NWPI collectors also thought it to be). I checked with my contacts after the sale to ensure that there wasn't any shill bidding going on and was relieved to find two of them were the underbidders and had spotted it immediately it was offered for sale.

I am told it is in transit after three emails asking for it to be shipped in view of the last fiasco.......

More to follow when and if it arrives.

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Here is another item from one stop stamp shop

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/334130940775

Does this look like on of Juzwin's "VIC AUST" fabrications?

What do members think?


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Of course, it is a total bogus VIC AUST applied in 1990s to a toned stamp the dealer has bleached the gum toning from.

The eBay Bunnies of, course do not have a clue about such minor detail. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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corpman wrote:
12 Sep 2021 23:56

Does this look like on of Juzwin's "VIC AUST" fabrications?
Not sure the Juzwins would appreciate such an insinuation, or have I misunderstood?

My perception is that they are one of Australia's more reputable dealers? (Expensive perhaps, but chalk and cheese compared to one stop stamp shop - who are definitely crooks)
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"insinuation"?

No insinuation.

It is a stone cold fact!!!

Well documented over the last 25 years with many before and after photos, and countless such cancellations just washing off when immersed in water.

I am sure Glen can factually elaborate with much detail.

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corpman wrote:
13 Sep 2021 11:10
"insinuation"?

No insinuation.

It is a stone cold fact!!!

Well documented over the last 25 years with many before and after photos, and countless such cancellations just washing off when immersed in water.

I am sure Glen can factually elaborate with much detail.
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Well perhaps you know best.

I did say it was just my perception - I actually don't know the Juzwins.

Here's a photo that has been published that includes buyers at the Arthur Gray sale in New York.

I wouldn't have thought Juzwin would have been welcome at such a prestigious event based on your assessment of his professional practise?
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Rigs wrote:
13 Sep 2021 10:18
corpman wrote:
12 Sep 2021 23:56

Does this look like on of Juzwin's "VIC AUST" fabrications?
Not sure the Juzwins would appreciate such an insinuation, or have I misunderstood?

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You really do need to get out more! :lol: :lol:


100s if not 1000s of high values Roos and Postage Dues etc are out there with this totally fake "VIC-AUST" corner cancel and no date showing.

Used to "improve" stamps with badly toned gum etc.

To this day a "FU" £1 1913 sells for more FU than heavy hinged mint or toned mint.

His big mistake was to not have the brains to realise that until about WW2 - the 1940s all cds cancels from VICTORIA read VICTORIA at base in full - with no use of the word AUSTRALIA or AUST. :lol: :lol: :lol:

So you cannot have a genuine used 1913 Roo with a "VIC-AUST" cancel - simple as that.

I bought a lovely Roo collection years back which had many stamps with this fake VIC-AUST cancel, lazily applied with a water based rubber ink pad from Coles or somewhere. Exactly like the 5/- Second shown below. I told him I was allowing little for those are the cancel were forged.

He got stroppy and assured me of the dealer pedigree source of them all.

With his approval I dipped one into a bowl of warm water while he was here, and the cancel totally vanished.

Been discussed here endless times -

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Mark Houston wrote:
I haven't got a full example of one of the forged ''VIC AUST'' cancels as they were sparingly cancelled and may or may not have included GPO?

Examples of the forged cancel establishing the entire cancel would be handy.

I think he used just a quarter cancel type 'zinco' not a full cds.

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For the record, the most widely forged corner "CTO" cancel was "Vic - Aust" which simply cannot exist genuinely on 1913 roos such as this one.

That wording style did not occur until about WW2.

Sadly this example was offered at Status last week May 27, and some dumb schmuck paid well over $2,000 for it. :shock:

It was totally erroneously described as - VF CTO (with gum), from PO presentation set. SG 15 cat £1900+, ACSC 51Bw cat $2500 & retail nowadays would be $3000+.

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Also noticed in the same sale a far worse one - that if immersed in hot water would wash out is my bet as most of them do.

Another dummy paid $A435 and also described as -

5/- Grey & yellow, WMK INVERTED. VF/CTO. ACSC 43a cat $600.

"CTO" my eye. :twisted:

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30 May 2013 11:46
Mark Houston wrote:
A few more examples of the 30mm VIC AUST Many have gum and found from different sources. It seems this cancel was used on obsolete issues for whatever reason

Mark as I posted above the leading MEL dealer has used his fake "Vic-Aust" cancels for decades to "improve" the retail value of heavily toned things that were near unsaleable thus.

Making them 'VFU' sucked in many buyers.

You too have been a victim it seems, and if he fooled you the bunnies have no hope! :lol:

His cancel had shorter wider letters than the genuine thank goodness, and the letters are far closer to the outer circle, so the many 1000s of forged cancels he created are readily ID'd, to those with good eyes.

Pop your 2/- Imprint pair into hot water, and please report back with an "after" photo! I bet the water based ink runs and near fades away. :idea:



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https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=20138&p=3377513#p3377513

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Thanks Glen, for clearing that up, you have I believe established the bogus canceller.

The items you noted are clearly different cancels, no gum and contrived by our friendly dealer.

The gap between Vic and Aust is also wider. The other cancels, seemingly are correct, the 4½d die two's being persuasive along with Arthur's block of four etc.
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Apart from the FACT that ''AUST'' did not appear on Victoria cancels until about WW2, his other major Boo Boo was cancelling DOZENS of scarce "With Stroke" Monocolour Postage Dues with that fake Victoria cancel.

They are cat TEN or TWENTY or more times higher used than mint. Adding $10,000s PER stamp at times when Bunnies bought them. :idea:

Dr. Geoff Kellow's recent research shows that NONE of the 2/- or 10/- or 20/- were EVER distributed or sold outside of NSW!

As I reported at the time -



20/- with stroke Postage Due stamp GENUINE cancel sold for $75,000 at Prestige.
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The fake VIC - AUST cancel is at least a half circle CDS. I'm viewing multiple examples shown on SB to try to get a composite image. But so far they all have a portion of VIC - AUST and nothing else. Very few, but there are some, show a partial date slug.

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Global Administrator wrote:
13 Sep 2021 15:57
Rigs wrote:
13 Sep 2021 10:18
corpman wrote:
12 Sep 2021 23:56

Does this look like on of Juzwin's "VIC AUST" fabrications?
Not sure the Juzwins would appreciate such an insinuation, or have I misunderstood?

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You really do need to get out more! :lol: :lol:
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It would seem that I certainly need to (glad I don’t collect CTO).

Somewhat flabbergasted though.

Has the ‘leading Mel dealer’ ever been challenged about these VIC-AUST fakes?

And, if so, what was the outcome?
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Rigs wrote:
13 Sep 2021 23:04

Has the ‘leading Mel dealer’ ever been challenged about these VIC-AUST fakes?

And, if so, what was the outcome?

Not sure.

The guy Gerald Bostock whose superb Roo collection I bought in a large green Lighthouse album, all Letraseted up, and sold to Didge intact, was furious when he watched his forged ''VIC AUST'' rubber ink stamp cancel on a 5/- CofA vanish in a bowl of warm water here. There were many in there.

He also paid our Melbourne friend many $100s for the same fake corner ''CTO'' cds on a 5/- SECOND Watermark, which of course does not exist.

He was muttering about taking action. Had he complained to APTA, this dealer was on the APTA committee, and was great mates with all the others on Committee. A bit like complaining to Cardinal Pell about being molested by Father Risdale I guess? Have no idea what might have transpired. Not my concern.

He phoned Didge for a chat he posted here, so Didge may know? He sold me the superb used Roo collection, he posted here, to pay for an exclusive Golf Club membership he said! -

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7503&p=354164#p354164

Bostock had, apart from the VIC. AUST fakes some super material - these 3 shown below are pretty legendary-



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Here is the latest Kangaroo instalment from one stop stamp shop

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kangaroo-Stamps-SMW-Perf-OS-Used ... 4185493170

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Amazing realisation for something catalogued at $10,000s

A non OS 10/- Small Multi gets more.

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The ACSC states that no genuinely used examples of the 10/- SMW perf OS have been seen.

There isn't anything about that stamp that is likely to change that view.

No doubt you are of the same mind...FAKED

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I'm no expert and wouldn't know... but that OS does look a little strange...?

Are the holes normally different shapes? I've never looked at one that hard!

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