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revcollector wrote:These were being collected years ago as well, I can remember reading an article in the Cinderella Philatelist about them.
Yup, Chris Tennant wrote on them in the January 1984 issue. Jim Brodie followed a year later on the RL Stevenson book ones.

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Stamp: G. Ricordi (Italy) unvalued, inscribed "P M" (Phonodisc Mondial). perf 12.5
Record: Phonodisc Mondial N.145, Italy, pre-WW1. Very collectable classical vocal, attractive art-nouveau label.

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Stamp: Pathe Rooster with manuscript "? Ballig / 920-28" and typewritten 50 (centesimi). Perf 11.5
Record: Pathe Actuelle E15329, 1920s. Composer is Georgio Ballig.

Nice thematic link between stamp and rooster symbol on label (the crowing rooster was Pathe's logo-probably better known from their movie newsreels pre-WW2)

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Stamp: Ettore Petrolini, unvalued black, perf 11. c.1926
From Wikipedia:
Ettore Petrolini (January 13, 1884 – June 29, 1936) was an Italian stage and film actor, playwright, screenwriter and novelist. He is considered one of the most important figures of avanspettacolo, vaudeville and revue. He was noted for his numerous caricature sketches, and was the "inventor of a revolutionary and anticonformist way of performing". Petrolini is also remembered for having created the Dadaist character Fortunello. His importance in Italian theater is now fully recognized, especially his influence on 20th century comedy.

A second type of Petrolini stamp exists, with the "DIRITTO" text at the base, and his name at the top. Both neat stamps with his caricature, and only the third stamp I know of showing a face (the others being B. Feldman's first issue [quickly suppressed as it contravened the UK regulations], and the other being Abele de Angeli's performers' copyright stamp in 1924)

Record: Disco "Grammofono" (Italian HMV) R7403, c.1926. A comic sketch.

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Almost always the stamp represents the composer's royalty - a mechanical copyright fee. Occasionally stamps can be found which represent the performer's royalty. These are most common on Argentine and Spanish recordings.

This one is unusual as it is Italian, and has both types of copyright stamps. The record is also rare and collectable.

Stamps: E.A. Mario 0.50 (lire), perf 11.5. Mario is the composer, best known for Santa Lucia Luntana made famous by Caruso (and on which records the vast majority of Mario stamps are found.
Fonografia Nazionale, p11.5. Performer's rights stamp, with manuscript "G Krismer" being the tenor.
Record: La Fonografia Nazionale, Milan C4772. Probably early 1920s.

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A local Australian item

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Stamp: Robert Mellin Ltd unvalued type 1, perf 11. c.1956. Mellin was the lyricist for Stranger on the Shore.
Record: Australian-pressed CORAL CS-1029.

Mellin stamps are not common, but the type 2 circular design is much scarcer again.

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Now a couple of the very earliest copyright stamps issued, all on 7" records.

The early stamps from some issuers used a design more suited for sticking on the bottom of cylinder boxes, cylinders still being very popular at that time. Nonetheless, they are still revenue stamps.

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Stamp: Louis Gregh & Cie, die-cut. c.1907
Record: Odeon 7" 6244. Tyrolian yodelling!


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Stamp: Odeon "pour DISQUE", hand-stamped "BERGERET", c.1907
Record: Odeon 7" 3781. More yodelling.

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Stamp: G. Ricordi, unvalued. c.1907. Ricordi had a strong focus on opera, notably Rossini, Puccini and Verdi (as here).
Record: Columbia (France) 7", 1904-08.

7" 78rpm records were quite popular pre-1905 (the famous Berliner records were 7") but faded quickly once 10" caught on.

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Can anyone offer any insight in regard to the stamp in the attached scan? The record label is "Shaherzad" from Persia (present day Iran) and dates from ~1927. It does not appear to be a copyright royalty stamp because it lacks any indication of value.

And the artwork seems too nicely done for a "record shop stamp". The word "behesht" means "paradise" and "heaven". The Arabic text may offer clues but I don't know a way to use the internet to get that translated.

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Here is a closeup of the Behesht stamp for anyone trying to read the Arabic text. The stamp measures 36 mm x 31 mm overall.

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andfive wrote:The Arabic text may offer clues but I don't know a way to use the internet to get that translated.
We have many helpful Arabic speakers - add the scan here -

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I've never seen any copyright stamp on any Persian 78. I'm not even sure they were a signatory to the various international copyright agreements.

Some record shop labels were very well produced. It could well be one, doesn't BEHESHT mean Paradise?

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Glen, your suggestion to use the Arabic translation topic did the trick. I had some real quick and useful feedback. To make this cinderellea chain of posts complete I am going to summarize what was learned with the translation.

In the upper right hand corner the two lines of Persian (not Arabic) basicly say that "at the junction of Ekbatan and Lalhzar streets in Tehran" (i.e. an address). The lower right hand Persian text says Behesht; same as the text in the lower left hand corner.

So, given this info I am pretty much convinced that this stamp was created for and put on the c.1927 Shaherzad 78 record label by a business named Behesht, perhaps a record shop, located at that street corner. Thank you all for your help! This forum and website is great!

The only way to get any further with this investigation would be if some 100+ year old Persian is reading this and comes forward saying, "Yep, you are correct, I worked in that store as a teenager!".

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Stamp: Chappell & Co, Australia, type A1 1/2d revalued in manuscript to 3 1/2d. Perf 11. Unlsted in catalogue.
Record: Edison Diamond Disc c.1923. These are the 1/4" thick records, which require special needles to play.

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Stamp: Chappell & Co, Australia type A2, 4 1/2d handstamped, perf 11. Not listed in catalogue.
Record. Another c.1923 Edison Diamond Disc.

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Stamp: D. DAVIS & Co. Australian Music publisher who has special stamps issued in Great Britain (printed by Harrisons), to be affixed to records for sale in Australia (red stamps) and New Zealand (green stamps). perf 14x15.
Record: Kiddyphone, 6" diameter. Usually kids' nursery songs (which were old enough to be public domain so no stamps) but occasionally popular songs too. c.1925.

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Stamp: D. Davis Type 4a 1½d with value inverted. Also vertical rouletting much misplaced. Some bleed-through from the record label but a very rare Australian revenue error.

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Record: Columbia 4129, pressed in Sydney, 1927.

The following snippet from NZ Truth, Records under Review 15 Sept 1927

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Stamp: The Copyright Protection Society (Mechanical Rights) Ltd ¾d blue, Type 1b, p14x15, handstamped "Chappell" (for Chappell & Co, the large UK publishers). In use 1912-1918. The CPS merged with the Mechanical Copyright Licences Co in 1924 to form MCPS, still active today.
Record: Edison Diamond Disc 80228, pressed 1914. Little Grey Home in the West, etched label. Diamond Discs are those ¼" thick records that are recorded with vertical amplitude rather than the commoner lateral grooves, and need a special needle to play.

Any multiple, even pairs, of copyright stamps are scarce. This is the only multiple I know of from The CPS.

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As noted in a previous post in this thread
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=11211#p534490
short runs were exempt from copyright. The Private Record stamps were used to show the recording was not intended for sale, and is usually found on one-off lacquers, with handwritten labels, from various recording services.

Which makes these two odd.

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Delta was a minor jazz label produced by Payne's Recording Service, starting in 1949. The labels are professional-looking and it seems unlikely less than 100 copies were produced. But maybe that's what happened.

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Esquire were a much larger and more commercial outfit than Delta, starting like in 1948. This recording by the well-known Australian jazzman Graeme Bell, would certainly have had a longer run than 100 copies. Maybe some copies were given as trade samples or retained by the musicians, so not sold, thus not subject to royalties.
The stamp is also different from the usual Mecolico Private Record ones in that the overprint is handstamped. To tie this to the preceding post, Mecolico was the other company The CPS merged with in 1924 to form MCPS, but they continued to use Mecolico stamps for decades afterwards as it was a well-known trademarked design.

And the music is fine too, a nice overlap of my two hobbies!

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This one is odd too, but the opposite way around - as in it bears a copyright stamp but it looks like it shouldn't.

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Stamp: The Gramophone Co, type 8 (1919-25) '1' teal, pink and black. Inscribed GRAMOPHONE (for The Gramophone Co), G. Ricordi & C. (the large Italian publishers) and S.G. Edition P.C. (for Societe Generale de l'Edition Phonographique et Cinematographique - better known as EDIFO). Also handstamped in violet - Edifo.
Record: Rare advance copy of HMV 7-52166 O Primavera, sung by Renato Zanelli (Chilean baritone). Recorded 1920.

It has all the appearance of a short-run, not for sale item (it even states NOT FOR SALE), that should not bear a copyright stamp.

From what I can gather, Advance Copies were sent to HMV stores to be played to punters to drum up interest so they would order the real thing when it was officially released.
The text at top reads
"This record may not be placed on sale until the question of copyright has been investigated and all necessary permission obtained". Maybe the affixing of the stamp meant that copyrights had been sorted?

It would appear that the composer (Tirindelli) was represented by G. Ricordi & Co. In turn, international copyrights for them were dealt with by EDIFO, while the record company needing the mechanical rights was The Gramophone Co in the UK. Hence the three names on the stamp.

All very confusing.

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Happy New Year adam78. :D

Good to see that you are still adding on to this thread. I've found it very interesting.

I keep looking for records with stamps but no luck so far!

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Some recent finds from the auction boxes of 78s described on the other copyright stamp thread https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2972

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Francis Day Hunter (UK) 1 3/8d (type 2b) plus nice Stubbs record shop advertising label, on Zonophone Celebrity c,1923. A lot of the Zono Celebrity series were of Harry Lauder.
Even better, this still has its original sleeve.
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Caruso 12" records were expensive, so the copyright royalty value was higher. This single-sided record would have sold for nearly 10/-, compared to the usual 10" double-sided being nearer 2/6 to 4/-. Dates shortly after WW1.
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The Hit was a Homokord GmbH label, for export, 1920s. This nice early jazz record has a generic AMMRE stamp, handstamped with "Homo / 25cm / Austral" being for Homokord, 10", export to Australia.
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Apex was a Canadian popular label, large numbers of which were dumped on the Australian market 1923-24, just before Australia established its own record pressing industry. This volume of imports triggered the main Australian publishers to act as agents for overseas copyright holders and to start using stamps.

D. Davis first large type, valued provisionally by typewriter (or similar). Printed on soft paper, damaged copies are the norm.
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Chappell & Co of London opened their Australian branch in Sydney in 1920. This is their first design, again with provisionally inserted values. This one in red manuscript - hard to see but it'll be another 1 1/2d like the previous.
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A later Australian-pressed Regal (1931) with an Allan & Co 3/4d rose & yellow, plus a New Zealand shop stickers for Dobbs Bros. of Wanganui.
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Some unusual UK stamps.

Reeder & Walsh stamps are scarce at the best of times.
This is 1 3/4d, made up by using the "1d" handstamp and the "3/4" handstamp, probably around 1915. Not in the Stamps on Music catalogue.

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The Incorporated Society of Authors Playwrights and Composers had generic green stamps that members could use instead of producing their own. This 1d from around 1922-25 shows a manuscript "AWG" initials, with the composer listed as Wilhelm Ganz. Presumably he had a first name starting with "A" that he didn't use?
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Sir Charles Villiers-Stanford was a well-known composer, who instead of using the Inc. Soc. Authors' stamps, created his own, using the Sigma monogram. This from around 1925, it shows him as the arranger of this old english song.
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Metzler is another scarce issuer, this manuscript 1 3/8d dating from around 1924.
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Where on ebay , that is what category and descriptor would these stamps be listed under.

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One of the very first copyright stamps issued, c1906-7 by L. Vives' (that's his signature) Agence Generale d'Edition Phonographique (which eventually became EDIFO, and next the still-extant BIEM).

English pressing of a US Victor master. Sig. Francisco was a pseudonym of Emilio de Gogorza.

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A pair of scarce c.1950 Mecolico typewritten values (5¾d) on equally scarce 12" JAMCO 78rpm records

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As promised, some copyright stamps on the 78rpm labels, ex Melody Music Farm, Pukerua Bay, near Wellington N.Z.

1918 HMV Acoustic Celebrity series.
Mecolico 7½d manuscript. Very scarce high value from expensive record = 12/6d

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c.1915 HMV, another Mecolico mss value, unusual 1⅙d.

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c.1924 HMV with rare Santojanni with "G" for The Gramophone Co (HMV)

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c.1915 HMV with Francis, Day & Hunter large signature type with mss 2⅓d

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1928 Australian-pressed HMV, Allan & Co with typewritten 2½d, in blue. First one sighted by me at least.

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1914 Cinch, with Paterson & Sons, Edinburgh ½d hand-stamped in violet. V. rare.

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With early LPs, stamps appeared on both the label, and on the back of the sleeve.

Two rare "typewritten" values issued by Australian music publishers - Aberbach and Allans. Note the Aberbach looks like a carbon copy, so probably was actually done on a typewriter!

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A 1956 10" Planet LP of WW2 songs, with a J. Albert & Son Pty Ltd 7 7/8d on the reverse.
Alberts printed a whole lot of fractional values deliberately offset to the right to allow the later addition of pence and shilling values in manuscript. Most of these are found on the labels and sleeves of LPs.

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The LP label shows the other publishers were satisfied to have facsimile indicia printed rather than use a stamp.
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Early 1930s German Polydor with rare unvalued Sam Fox Paris copyright stamp. John Stepan Zamecnik was a US-based composer published by Sam Fox (a US company) whose European interests were dealt with by their French branch.

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WW1 era Zonophone with first-type Francis Day & Hunter, perf 11, with letter code rather than value. Codes are known from 'A' to 'G', meaning unknown but probably represent a price class.

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Picked up recently for $2 from a small pile of 78s in an antique shop in the winemaking centre of Martinborough NZ, a D. Davis with a very rare inverted signature. Davis was a major music publisher based in Sydney. Nice that it retains the local record shop sales advertising sticker, c.1929.

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Right chaps, this is the way it is... I have just acquired (not on purpose) a box of monochrome bromides/photocopies of records with copyright stamps in situ, there are about 200+ of them and they're all different from what I can see.

They weigh 1.5kgs - so postage isn't going to be cheap outside the UK, but I'm 100% open to offers should anybody want them.

I should also mention that I also acquired one of the very best collections of mechanical copyright stamps I've ever seen along with the above, I've listed a few in this week's auction - here's a link:-

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/I-B-RedGuys-Fine-Stamps/_i.html?_nk ... d=59804047

There will be many hundreds to follow - and most are in very good or mint condition which is unusual for these stamps.

Look forward to hearing from you :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Not Bruce wrote:Right chaps, this is the way it is... I have just acquired (not on purpose) a box of monochrome bromides/photocopies of records with copyright stamps in situ, there are about 200+ of them and they're all different from what I can see.

They weigh 1.5kgs - so postage isn't going to be cheap outside the UK, but I'm 100% open to offers should anybody want them.

I should also mention that I also acquired one of the very best collections of mechanical copyright stamps I've ever seen along with the above, I've listed a few in this week's auction - here's a link:-

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/I-B-RedGuys-Fine-Stamps/_i.html?_nk ... d=59804047

There will be many hundreds to follow - and most are in very good or mint condition which is unusual for these stamps.

Look forward to hearing from you :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I am impressed with the quality of your Mint Record Stamps, you make no mention of gum, is there any on the backs , if so are they possible regums ?

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They are 100% genuine mint labels with original gum - why would anybody want to re-gum Copyright Control labels anyway???? That would just be strange :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Not Bruce wrote:They are 100% genuine mint labels with original gum - why would anybody want to re-gum Copyright Control labels anyway???? That would just be strange :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I can provide the background to at least the Societe Generale EDIFO design ones being full gum.

These were first sighted by me in 1989 in a Glass Slipper (Andrew Hall) Postal Bid Sale as:

Lot 308. FRANCE. Gramophone Record Royalty stamps. Fine collection of 91 mint examples, est £60.

I paid £50.

Here are some of them mounted up as part of my Exhibit.

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I saw the same lot, and the odd individual UHM item, being offered several times, a conundrum answered in 1990 when I had moved to London and attended a Cinderella Club fair.

Dealer Peter Kent was there and he had a large selection of the EDIFO design (and others from the later BIEM issues plus a few Francis Day & Hunter) mostly in irregular blocks - large and small. He had been taking one stamp of each from the blocks and making up these mini-collections for sale through auctions, or direct. As I had already purchased one of each, I was then able to spend some time (and many £'s) sifting through the part-sheets and taking choice corner blocks or even part sheets.

There was only the one full sheet remaining, which I also purchased.

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He was coy as to how he had obtained them but alluded to some earlier Christies sale. Given the array of material - all European BIEM or (its predecessor) EDIFO issues, they had to have escaped from BIEM's archives by some means.

When I obtained Dr Conrad Graham's copyright stamps collection a year or so back, I found he also had the full set of the UHM singles which he must have purchased about the same time as I bought mine!

NotBruce - I'm assuming the other, UK, stamps you have on offer are used, no gum as they are normally found?

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Most of the other stamps are off-label as usual (but done much more carefully than many I've seen) however a fair number of the labels are unmounted mint with gum, to be honest I've not sorted through them in detail as yet, but there are many hundreds and lots of different companies.

So, any interest in the bromides/photocopies?

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1925 HMV with the very rare Triangular copyright stamp of the French branch of the Gramophone Co (HMV).

The meaning of the "TC" (or "CT") is unknown.

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Adam,

I love this post. Very interesting and it shows the variety of collecting fields that we have on the board.

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Some nice records with rare copyright stamps, picked up from a recent bulk purchase - about 400 records for NZ$80

B.F. Wood ½d blue on Scala 447 (c.1922)

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Mecolico 1¼d manuscript with Australasia red overprint on 1930 English HMV (for export)

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W. Bassett ½d blue (large 'd') on Summit Z169 (1932)
Both local Australian items. The ½d with the large 'd' is not listed in the brand new 2nd Edition of the Stamps on Music catalogue.

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1922 Zonophone with two interesting stamps.
Silberman & Grock 1d
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St. Giles Publishing Co Ltd 1d (typewritten) Just a couple of copies recorded.
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Great thread and I love your website.

Some of my 78s have these stickers, but alas most are worthless Big Crosbies and Andrews sisters from like 1952. I have a few much older ones (1910s).

Good and educational reading.
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Recentl I bought a small pile of very early 78s from France, all 1907-1910 range, and all with some very early copyright stamps on their labels.

The IDEAL and PATHE records with their etched "labels" are vertical cut, meaning they require a player with a special needle to play them in a "hill & dale" manner as the grooves are up and down, rather than the much more common side-to-side or lateral cut of most records. Sadly I don't have a Pathe player.

Nonetheless, they're lovely historic records so I think I'll be leaving the stamps in place.

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Some more recent acquisitions, this lot have a lot New Zealand flavour.

c.1930 Australian-pressed Parlophone with the rare A. Eady stamp. One of only two New Zealand based compnaies to issue their own stamps - the other being Begg's.
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The next two are German-pressed 12" Vox, mid-1920s, bearing the AMMRE generic stamp for records bound for export, with New Zealand-specific overprints.
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This Vox is similar but bears the French Societe Generale stamp (who managed the copyright on that composition), but again with the same New Zealand-specific overprint.
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Finally a New Zealand issue from the large Australian music publisher J. Albert & Son, with the value typewritten, in the less common red (most are black).
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Nice Show and Tell adam78.
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Yes, still very interesting

Geraldo had several hits in Britain in the late 1940s and conducted a hotel orchestra.

For those of us not in New Zealand or Australia, many of Adam's records are scarce imports, that came here with immigrants from Europe (Italy, Germany, Malta etc) or they were imported over at great expense from these places and finally some like Vox were actually sent here from Europe.

The lions share of our records even then were British until the 1920s and then more American stuff from the later 20s onwards. Australian and New Zealand rerecordings of foreign hits were common too, and cheaper as duties and taxes were much lower, but they still had to pay royalties to the song publishers.

New Zealand and Australia relied on imported discs until 1926, these discs were often made at Hayes, Middlesex from 1907 onwards, and in 1926 the first record pressing plant making HMV and Columbia discs was established at Homebush Sydney. These served both countries until 1948 when New Zealand finally had the first of 4 disc pressing plants opened.

In New Zealand, 78s were generally made up to the end of 1957 and vinyl 45s and 33s took off in the same year (I have over 200 of each and my latest 78s are all 1957/58 and earliest 45s are hits from mid to late 1957 like Wake Up Little Suzie and Lil Darling). There was probably importing of foreign 45s from about 1952 onwards (I have a 1951 British HMV 45 with songs by Benjamin Britten).

After 1948 records from Australia and foreign locations are less common, although the arrival of post war British, Irish, Dutch and Polish migrants here (We never had the volume of Southern Europeans and Lebanese the Australians had), meant many brought some of their discs with them and some of the more well off ones would buy records from home.

In September 1987, the last New Zealand record pressing plants were shut down and Australian stock was used through to 1990. Finally in August 1990, the cassingle format was promoted along with cassettes and CD's. Vinyl became scarce until the revival of the mid 2010s.
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Thanks, Princestamps, for the potted history of records in New Zealand. There's been a few books come out recently covering various aspects, although mainly from the 1950s onwards.

I had the chance recently to help a family with another hoard of 78s left by their father. The picture gives some idea, but omits the many banana boxes also full of 78s. I reckon about 8,000 and it took me three days to go through them. There were many examples of the commoner local stamps from J. Albert, Allans, Davis etc, which I largely left for other collectors, but I did find a few boxes of interesting stamps, music and record label for my various collections.
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These three have an Australian connection.

Mecolico with manuscript value and the red Australasia overprint for export to the antipodes, 1922.
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I was delighted to find this one. My catalogue shows only a very tatty copy of the same stamp, being the only other example I'm aware of. This Australian-pressed Parlophone is from 1930. Basil Dean was an Australian songwriter-publisher based in Sydney.
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Nicholson's were a large Australian music publisher. Their first stamp issues were larger and more elaborate than the plan circular design that followed, and many had the value written in manuscript. This Australian-pressed Brunswick dates from around 1930.
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Some Belgian records with stamps from Francis Day, and Lawrence Wright, all handstamped "BELGIQUE", 1930s.
Francis Day BELGIQUE on HMV
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Francis Day BELGIQUE on Broadcast
Francis Day BELGIQUE on Broadcast
Lawrence Wright BELGIQUE on Broadcast
Lawrence Wright BELGIQUE on Broadcast
Lawrence Wright maroon BELGIQUE on HMV
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US Banner records were among a bunch of labels accused of "dumping" onto the Australian market in the early 1920s. This one from around 1924 bears a rare type 2 J. Albert 2d stamp, the record probably sold for 3/-.
J. Albert large type on US Banner c.1924
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Adam 8 lots of 6 royalty copyright stamps on ebay, see item 392894584420 and click on sellers others , something may be usefull to you, john

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