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We all have and handle these from time to time. "Back of book", Revenues, "Cinderellas", duty stamps and all kinds of other stamp like labels. Discuss them all HERE!

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Post by adam78 »

Treading the fine line between Cinderellas and Ephemera are these interesting little pieces of paper, found stuck to the bottom inside front or rear cover board of old books. My Encyclopedia of Ephemera (Rickards) states the first one known is 1610, but they really begin in earnest in the early 1700s.
Most are rather small, sometimes less than 10mmx10mm.

(all ex Brodie)

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Booksellers labels were introduced in the 1820s.

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Some loose New Zealand ones.

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Do they qualify as Cinderellas?

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These are great :D - thanks for posting them.

I'm sure I've seen labels like these in old books but I've never given them any attention. :( I've certainly never seen so many collected together.

I know two of the bigger bookshops well: Foyles in London and Blackwells in Oxford. Both are still going strong.

They would certainly qualify as cinderellas in my book.
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Just so Australia doesn't feel left out.

Corbett, Sydney and Short, Sydney. c.1880-1905 era.

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I recall years ago reading that a significant collection of these things had been left to an OZ Museum/Library but can't recall where or locate it on the Net. Anyone else recall that?

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Seals like this

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used to be common in the backs of Japanese books. I thought I had several examples, but I could only find this (in the back of a 1963 chemical dictionary) and one other (in the back of a 1966 electrical dictionary).

The text reads 'Author's seal', and it has the space for the author's signature seal in the centre. The author was 橋本吉郎 - Kichiro Hashimoto. Can anyone make out anything from that pink smear? 
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Amazing .. have never seen these collected before!

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adam78 wrote:The text reads 'Author's seal', and it has the space for the author's signature seal in the centre. The author was 橋本吉郎 - Kichiro Hashimoto. Can anyone make out anything from that pink smear? 
If this is the case then this may be a Japanese version of an author's royalty stamp, like the RL Stevenson ones in a recent thread http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=16825, and not a seller's seal. That would make it a revenue stamp of sorts.

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I don't know. It may well have been a guarantee of genuineness. Forging a person's seal was, and still is, a serious criminal offence.

Book piracy was rampant in Taiwan in the 1950s and 1960s. (As I well know. As a student, my first copy of Matthew's Chinese-English Dictionary was a pirate copy from Taiwan. It cost 10/-, against I think £5 for the real thing.) The pirates would certainly have copied Japanese books as well.
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Some more from around the world
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The blue one from Buenos Aires is a true Cinderella.


And some more from NZ

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And finally a few more from Australia.

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Those three from Leighton, Bott & Short that mimic books would have to be my favourites.

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I collect these!! There are only a handful of collectors worldwide, although many rare booksellers have collections squirrelled away quaried from their work. If anyone has some for sale, please let me know!! Always seeking.
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My most stamp-like label, and also my only Japanese label.

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Pre-WWII, I'd guess, from the spelling. It looks as if it might be from a Christian bookshop: was it, do you know?
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Yes, Christian bookshop, don't know any further on the date. I'm thinking later, but the company has been around since before the war. Scroll to the bottom of this page for more: http://sevenroads.org/Labels/K.html
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Nice to see my guess confirmed :D

I'd still suggest your label is probably pre-War. The spelling 'KWAN' (for 館) would have been consciously archaic in 1940; the natural spelling would have been 'KAN'. It would be a bit like an English label adhering to the use of the old English long s.
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[quote="benjclark"]I collect these!! There are only a handful of collectors worldwide, although many rare booksellers have collections squirrelled away quaried from their work. If anyone has some for sale, please let me know!! Always seeking.

Hi. Stumbled upon this post. I have seen one book here in Bengal , India , which has this label. Let me know whether you need this. The book costs $4. Dont have any idea about the label value although! :?
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Label values:
There is almost no collector market for these. I buy them when I can, but mostly we swap with each other. Like I said, there's only a few formal collectors "out there", and labels are sometimes bought instead by collectors of a locality, or when there is something else going on, like an owl, or some other "topical" object on the label. A decent group of labels from Rhodesia recently sold on ebay for a surprising sum (to me), but most likely because they were from Rhodesia than the fact they were bookseller labels.

I've seen older ones from A.H. Wheeler, but not this one. Being the "largest bookstore chain in India", I'd imagine these more modern labels are pretty common-- they just haven't made it into the hands of collectors yet. I'd buy the book for $4 for the label if I found it in a bookstall-- but only because I don't have one yet.
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I agree with you, there is no fixed value until unless someone comes with a catalogue on it!

Regarding AH Wheeler, they were the largest bookchain in railway stations of India, which were their monopoly till mid 2005 , I guess. Now its open market and they are sadly relegated somewhere.

If you want it... let me know.
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Simply out of hopefully general interest in a thread related to booksellers-
A couple of years ago I had a free afternoon in London after finishing early in Chancery Lane.I decided on pure whim to go on a hunt for 84 Charing Cross Road - obviously I wasn't going to find a bookseller there
This is what I found :(

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I would certainly be interested on the label, depending on the whats and hows.

Marks & Co. (84 Charing Cross Rd.) would fall precisely into the right time/ place/ etc. for having a label, but I've never seen one. It doesn't mean there isn't one to be found.

A catalog would be nearly impossible. We're a long way from that being possible. I have started what I'm calling a Field Guide to Book Trade Labels. The gist is to set up the most basic of taxonomies and record what history there is to the practice of using them. Discovering (for myself) the world of philatelic exhibiting has been extremely helpful in the hows and whats of presenting the information.
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Let me know which are the "whats" and " hows" about this label and will try my best to answer them...
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John B. Law, the postmaster of the town of Gonzales Texas during the Civil War was a member of the "Law & Colman", booksellers and pharmacists
He had produced colored labels for books in 1861 and in 1864-1865. In subsequent years, the labels were removed from Colman and Law books and applied on letters to make false stamps. They are probably less than ten copies.
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HOLY SMOKES! That would be awesome in my booksellers in the Civil War collection. I collect all kinds of ephemera, tokens, etc. on this subject and have not seen that example. I imagine I'd only be able to add one of these labels if it had been in a book, rather than this postally used example. Confederate Texas is an expensive collecting area to get into. Just incredible. Thank you for sharing!
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Always seeking new examples.
Three recent acquisitions from Rhodesia.

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Hi! Looking to start my collection!
I have none to trade. I would like to buy a "lot"
of these stamps.. 50-100. To jump start.
Hoping someone sells these. I have seen
posts of amazing stamps.. Please what
Is their real name? I have heard the term
book boo- I am an absolute novice and can't
wait until I am no longer one.
Thank you for your help!
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Are there any members who sell their
duplicates? I am only seeing amazing collections.
I am looking for 50-100
Maybe you have duplicates?
I was at a bookstore in Monterey and saw
a framed collection of these.
Having been a book collector., NOT SELLER
it was love at first site! How could I have
missed these little guys?!
Please help if you are or know someone who
Has any to sell.
Thank you!
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Does any one sell these? Looking for 50-100
to jump start my collection.
All I see are collections. I do not understand.
Are there any sellers at all. If not please
tell me. I do not want to waste others time.
Thank you!
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sallyreader wrote:
I do not want to waste others time.
Well I must say you are doing a great job on that score.

Please post only ONCE. We can all READ.

You have THREE posts above, repeatedly rambling vaguely along the same lines, and a few threads Mods have deleted.

You started a WANTED thread, so not not keep on and on and on please.

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All apologies. I am unfamiliar with boards Etc.

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Must presume that to be a no on any sellers.
Thank you.
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Sally

Not everyone visits the board every day so you may be better give it a few days to allow people to reply.

The fact there have been a number of replies on the other thread means that members are interested in trying to help.

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Mic- I apologize. I did not understand that these all could
Be seen. I shall be patient and not post
Until contacted.
Thank you!
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Sally

You are more than welcome, all your posts appear on the board, so anything you post on this thread will be seen by any member following it. That way previous posters will eventually pick up your message.

What you are after is rather specialised in terms of a stampboard, so its a case of waiting for the right person at the right time.

Good luck in you quest, and take time to look around the site.

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Thank you for being so kind!
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Still looking to buy 50- 100 of these little
Guys!
Also working on getting my avatar.
Thank you!
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Hello — I'm interested in these bookseller's and binder's labels too.
I put together a collection of examples from books on my shelves here:
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OK, I think I have worked out how to post the image itself now.

But why can't you link to a flickr picture, I wonder?
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Hi Alan,

Not sure about Flickr but we do know that both Imgur and Photobucket work for posting images to the board.

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Marvelous, I'm glad there are others taking an interest in these little beauties. There aren't really dealers per say ... you have to develop relationships with other collectors, etc. Good luck!
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A lovely collection of labels. I hate to think of book vandalism that went into obtaining them though (I'll pretend they all came from various Fifty Shades Of Twilights series).

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Don't worry — it's a digital collage of scans, not a page of cut-outs :)

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pelmen wrote:I hate to think of book vandalism that went into obtaining them though (I'll pretend they all came from various Fifty Shades Of Twilights series).
I can't speak for all collectors, but the vast majority are book collectors first and foremost. They too would shudder at the thought!
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New to my collection -- and tied on cover!!
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Not booksellers' labels, but serving a similar purpose, these are a recently obtained selection of German record shop advertising stickers, as affixed to the labels of 78rpm records. Most are from the 1920s and 1930s.
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Gorgeous collection! Love the little robot man.
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A couple of new finds.

The plain NZ one is from 1893, measures 20mm across.
And Mr Jones from Newport, has to be Wales.
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Beautiful!
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The June 2016 issue of Stamp News included an article on the Grahame Book Company in Sydney.
Pictured was a perfed book label;

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And from the 'back of my book'

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Grahame Book Company Sydney book label imperf
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There are only a handful of online references to the Grahame Book Company. One is a stamp sales site lists the perfed version of the stamp but with a blue border for $55.

The only reference I could see to the company itself was a listing for the building's heritage status. Though I only looked briefly.
https://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/heritageapp/ViewHeritageItemDetails.aspx?ID=5045556
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Your imperf with the blue border is new to me, but the one above I've seen many times with several others of its series (I guess you could say), colors reversed and different figures at center, etc. Thank you for sharing!
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ForMax wrote:The June 2016 issue of Stamp News included an article on the Grahame Book Company in Sydney.
Pictured was a perfed book label;

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And from the 'back of my book'

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Grahame Book Company Sydney book label imperf
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There are only a handful of online references to the Grahame Book Company. One is a stamp sales site lists the perfed version of the stamp but with a blue border for $55.

The only reference I could see to the company itself was a listing for the building's heritage status. Though I only looked briefly.
https://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/heritageapp/ViewHeritageItemDetails.aspx?ID=5045556
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Hey y'all, I collect booksellers/bookbinders labels/tickets too.

I have been for years, my collection is ever growing. I live in the states and travel around a good bit, have spent some time in the North East and the North West parts of the USA.

I would love to share photos, once I decide a good way to display my collections, they are currently in "Glass Top Display Box with Metal Clips, 16” x 12” x 0.75" with archival quality matting board behind them.

They are currently arranged on white board but some seem to blend in, so I'm considering switching to black board. A rough guestimation of my collection, without truly counting would be north of 250 labels/tickets.

I do have duplicates which I would be willing to trade, in the future. When I collect I note the date the book was published and carefully remove the label from any paper, that it had been adhered to.

So questions,

Is there an existing community of collectors?

How do you display? (I'd like to frame under UV protected glass or acrylic)

Is trading a possibility?

Good to meet fellow collectors,

Grant
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Re: Booksellers' and Bookbinders' labels

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Community of collectors: just loose acquaintances and friends mostly. Very small group of people. Don't really display keep mind in lighthouse albums (black sheets are much easier to see). I'll be in touch soon regarding trades if interested....
Always seeking bookseller labels....Album of Book Trade Labels
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A recent addition to the collection (and a test for imgur). Love this map of Israel bookseller label. Funny enough, it doesn't even say Books anywhere.
Always seeking bookseller labels....Album of Book Trade Labels
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