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I'm starting this topic for items of Imperial and Post-Independence India, as opposed to the Indian States.

Here is a lovely example of a late Victorian Stamped Paper printed by De la Rue. It's a little grubby around the edges, but in my opinion would look good in a frame. I think the attractive calligraphy adds to it (although I've no idea what it says).


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And here's a nice document from 1881.

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Gee, those are beautiful. :)

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Is there a catalog of India revenues and/or stamped papers?

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Great idea.
As it will give collectors some idea of what these are,,

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Stumbled on this top half of an Indian stamped paper the other day

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while looking for these Indian telegraphs

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and used on piece

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Hardly pristine condition :( , but still impressive - if you don't look too hard
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peterh wrote:I'm starting this topic for items of Imperial and Post-Independence India, as opposed to the Indian States.

Here is a lovely example of a late Victorian Stamped Paper printed by De la Rue. It's a little grubby around the edges, but in my opinion would look good in a frame. I think the attractive calligraphy adds to it (although I've no idea what it says).


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So this is A4/Quarto type size?
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GlenStephens wrote: So this is A4/Quarto type size?
Yes it is Glen. A lot of these stamped papers are this size or larger, but sadly we often see them cut down with just the printed tops remaining.

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peterh wrote:And here's a nice document from 1881.

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Again, the Hundi and also for 2500 Rupees. So, it seems that this is correct rate for this amount.

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maptrekker wrote:Is there a catalog of India revenues and/or stamped papers?
Yes, something you can find in Barefoot. But more better is a new catalogue written by Blatt S.M., Mollah A.M., Heppell D: "Indian Government Fiscal and Judicial Stamps and Stamp Papers", issued in 2 parts - Vol.1 has two parts - adhesive and stamp papers. In Vol.2 are covered provincial issues (after Independence) - e.g. Rajasthan, Bihar,...

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tonymacg wrote: Stumbled on this top half of an Indian stamped paper the other day

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Tony, this is top of early stamped paper of India. These early types often bicolored are called Congreve stamp papers. And in this series there are countless varieties - several types, values from 1 anna to 1000 rupees, shades, actual printing dates and different dies. The die number is mentioned on the right to the value in a semicircle. In your example this is Type 18 and die 62. Sorry, but probably one of the most common example :D .

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peterh wrote:
GlenStephens wrote: So this is A4/Quarto type size?
Yes it is Glen. A lot of these stamped papers are this size or larger, but sadly we often see them cut down with just the printed tops remaining.
The anna values should be 315 x 212 mm, so nearly exactly A4 format. But the largest one is value above 1000 rupees - 420 x 263 mm.

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peterh wrote:I'm starting this topic for items of Imperial and Post-Independence India, as opposed to the Indian States.

Here is a lovely example of a late Victorian Stamped Paper printed by De la Rue. It's a little grubby around the edges, but in my opinion would look good in a frame. I think the attractive calligraphy adds to it (although I've no idea what it says).

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The stamped paper of 8 anna was used in southern India. Also series bearing portrait of rulers are bearing extremely beautiful watermarks covering nearly the whole paper.

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ikanek wrote:
The stamped paper of 8 anna was used in southern India. Also series bearing portrait of rulers are bearing extremely beautiful watermarks covering nearly the whole paper.

I was going to add something about the watermarks which are indeed very attractive. I don't know of a way to illustrate these unfortunately.

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And thank you for the useful information ikanek :D

I think I must have acquired the entire stock of an Indian waste-paper dealer :shock:

Here are some more.

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Edward VII again.

Some of these documents are perforated through the printed stamp so we only see part surviving as in this Court Fee sheet. It has an adhesive added as you can see. These were normally cancelled by a punch through the monarch's head - this one has escaped that fate but still punched.

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George V

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Here's a George V example with no printed stamp and adhesives added. Unfortunately some are defaced (literally) by punching. I'm guessing the circular and triangular punches were used for different purposes?

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George VI.

The backs of some of these are interesting as well, with various seals and handstamps added, as well as often fingerprint signatures. Here are both sides of this one.


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Here's a post-independence example. Usually the particular state is identified in some way, eg by handstamp ('Rajasthan' on this one).


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Or some states (maybe all - I don't have many of these) have their own papers, eg this Mysore Copy Stamp paper used in 1971.


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This is much more basic in the printing quality. Appears to have been used in 1956, but with no English anywhere apart from the 8 annas value, I don't know the purpose of this one.

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Here's something different, a share certificate with 3 Rupees and 12 Annas Special Adhesive stamps added at the top. I guess the 3 Rupees value was not used much, because it is a George V stamp despite it being 1951. Also, it is interesting that Imperial stamps are still being used 3½ years after independence.

Apologies- this item is so large it doesn't fit on my scanner, so the edges are missing.


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peterh wrote:Edward VII again.

Some of these documents are perforated through the printed stamp so we only see part surviving as in this Court Fee sheet. It has an adhesive added as you can see. These were normally cancelled by a punch through the monarch's head - this one has escaped that fate but still punched.

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The fact that the header is perforated is an evidence that this paper was used for copies. Moreover, you could see that there are five columns. The reason for this is the rates which in some cases were counted by words written.

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Here where it gets really boring :wink:

The adhesive stamps are not the most attractive things in the world, and are printed in those lovely (?) fugitive purples and greens. I believe these go up to values of hundreds or thousands of rupees, but I only have the lower values, and some not in great condition either.

To start with - Court Fee stamps

George V lower values.


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peterh wrote:This is much more basic in the printing quality. Appears to have been used in 1956, but with no English anywhere apart from the 8 annas value, I don't know the purpose of this one.

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This is paper from Madhya Pradesh - a short-lived state formed after Independence and only one series is known - but with many varieties. The purpose of them is written on the back - documentary, judicial and copy.

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George V to 10 rupees and George VI lower values.


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peterh wrote:Here where it gets really boring :wink:

The adhesive stamps are not the most attractive things in the world, and are printed in those lovely (?) fugitive purples and greens. I believe these go up to values of hundreds or thousands of rupees, but I only have the lower values, and some not in great condition either.

To start with - Court Fee stamps

George V lower values.

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Here, you have nearly complete series. The court fee stamps were issued only to 20 rupees (on George V and VI series). On QV only to 6 rupees.
Some other series are known up to 1000 r.

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peterh wrote:Or some states (maybe all - I don't have many of these) have their own papers, eg this Mysore Copy Stamp paper used in 1971.

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Only few states issued similar stamped paper series - except Mysore, Madras, Tamilnadu.

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George VI higher values


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Post-independence first series. I only have the lower values of these.


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Decimal currency first series.


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Decimal currency second series, reduced size.

Also one I found after I scanned the George VI - ten annas on twelve annas overprint.


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peterh wrote:Here's a George V example with no printed stamp and adhesives added. Unfortunately some are defaced (literally) by punching. I'm guessing the circular and triangular punches were used for different purposes?

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Steven Zwillinger in his exhibit on Exponet dedicated to King Edward revenues mentioned that they have been used for different purposes. Round punches were for Court, the triangular for Records and Square for Copies or Certificates. I asked him where he found this info and he replied me in journal of a society denoting to Burma philately (I dont know its correct name).

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peterh wrote:Decimal currency second series, reduced size.

Also one I found after I scanned the George VI - ten annas on twelve annas overprint.

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There are some other overprints, they are generally quite scarce. So, good find :D .
I also love the G overprint on 65 paisa, I think it is not recorded, even in the new literature.

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peterh wrote:Decimal currency second series, reduced size.

Also one I found after I scanned the George VI - ten annas on twelve annas overprint.

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The reduced size series is also known forged. The forgery to deceive the government (not collectors) is perforated 11, without watermark and slightly cruder than original. 75 paisa value is reported and I have 2 rupee value as well.
Generally, there are very few of forgeries for fraud of government. I have seen also in George VI series.

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Again, thank for the background information. I had a look at that exhibit on Exponet - very interesting.

I'm not sure what the G overprint signifies - do you have any ideas?

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peterh wrote:Again, thank for the background information. I had a look at that exhibit on Exponet - very interesting.

I'm not sure what the G overprint signifies - do you have any ideas?
G stands for Gujarat - a provincial use, this overprint is similar to Rajasthan, Saurashtra and some others for use in this Union states.

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I just found the few Queen Victoria Court Fees I have in my collection.


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peterh wrote:I just found the few Queen Victoria Court Fees I have in my collection.


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These series was also used for few Indian states such as Pal Lahara, Peint and Vinchoor.

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I think the Victorian series are the most attractive. On now to another type. I think these are Special Adhesives, but correct me if I'm wrong. The stamps which look unused have an embossed rather than an inked cancellation.


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And the highest value of these that I have, the 10 rupee.


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And here are later Special Adhesives from Edward VII to post-independence.

Special Adhesive revenue stamps are general fiscal stamps. They are titled "Special Adhesive" to differentiate from "Embossed Revenues". Embossed revenues are those that are part of the design of such things as cheques, birth certificates, etc. Those documents that required revenue to be charged, but were not embossed with the revenue stamp used a "Special Adhesive" revenue stamp.


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Next, Share transfer stamps. I only have a small range of these, George V onwards.


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Next, Insurance stamps, from George V.


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These "Agreement" stamps of George V appear to be unused (at least not by affixing to a document), but stamped CANCELLED. I'm not sure of the status of these.


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And these "Broker's Note" stamps are similar.


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For some reason I only have 'Foreign Bill' stamps for Victoria and post-independence.

Also here is one of the Broker's Note stamps used 'properly' and a Notarial One Rupee, which is the only one of these I have.


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My collection is not the most organised. I've just found some more Broker's Note and Foreign Bill stamps, as well as a few more values from the other series that I hadn't illustrated, so here they are.


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Now if you're not already bored to tears, this might finish you off.

Some of these series were overprinted for provincial or state use. The only ones I have are these, although I assume they probably exist for other states also.

So here are Bombay Province and State, followed by Maharashtra, with the state name initially in English then Marathi for the more recent issues.


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