India Revenues, Stamped Papers and other Cinderellas

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Great thread Peter! 8) Thanks for sharing these.
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Thanks Nigel - glad you like it.

Here are a few more. These are general revenue issues, I think mostly used as receipt stamps. Also overprinted for province/state use.

The two at the end of the fourth row are overprinted for Maharashtra , but I can't read the overprint on the other non-English ones.


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The upper half of this lot I believe are to do with Employees' Medical Insurance.

Then we have Radio Licence stamps and two 'Healthy India' charity labels.


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Here are a few more Queen Victoria and Edward VII items.


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And these I believe are impressed stamps on cheques.


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And a mixed bag of National Savings Stamps, Customs, Entertainments tax and another Health Charity label.


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Here are a few more Telegraph stamps to go with the ones Tony posted earlier in the thread. As Tony illustrated, they were normally cut in half in use, so I'm not sure how these whole examples survived.


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peterh wrote:I think the Victorian series are the most attractive. On now to another type. I think these are Special Adhesives, but correct me if I'm wrong. The stamps which look unused have an embossed rather than an inked cancellation.

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This series was mostly used on Hundis before a series of stamped papers for Hundis was printed. The embossing was used for this type as often as printed circular datestamps.

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peterh wrote:Next, Insurance stamps, from George V.

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The anna values should be green. If they are in shades of yellow or orange they were affected by sun or chemical. I also have similar example in my collection. The other color changeling is from brown in later post-independence series to grey.

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peterh wrote:And these "Broker's Note" stamps are similar.

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There is a lot of confusion about the status of these stamps. Some dealers and collectors marked them as cancelled reminders. But this is probably not true. Its true nature is to serve vendors (and/or court) as an example of material which is current use. I also have several examples. They are known in simple letters (as yours) or with additional fancy boxes.

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peterh wrote: The two at the end of the fourth row are overprinted for Maharashtra , but I can't read the overprint on the other non-English ones.

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Well, the first in the fifth row is Gujarat and all others are Rajasthan (except the last one - normal India with Refugee Relief overprint).

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peterh wrote:Here are a few more Queen Victoria and Edward VII items.

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These were used as receipts. Queen Victoria are first and then followed by Edward VII (around 1905). But then there was a large gap and therefore a lot of postage stamps were used for these purposes. Next revenue series was issued around 1935!.

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peterh wrote:And these I believe are impressed stamps on cheques.

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These were used not only on cheques but also on shares and bonds.

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Thank you for the information ikanek :D

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Here is an imprinted fiscal on a complete blank check. This one is from Rangoon and has an "R" on the imprint. I also have Bombay with a "B" and Calcutta with a "C." So I assume the cutouts above are from Calcutta.

I wonder what the pairs of numbers on the imprints indicate?

In any case, checks seem to have been taxed extremely low compared to hundis.

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That's very nice maptrekker. The small numbers on the imprint look like dates to me?

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Here's another document - I presume another hundi?


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peterh wrote:Here's another document - I presume another hundi?

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Yes, this is a Hundi. This one is a joint of several Hundis together, quite common practice. Maybe, someone prepared them for a smaller amount, but later it was joined for a larger sum.

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Found this in Finance Department Notification No. C-63-Stamps-25, Dated 5th May, 1925, RULES UNDER THE INDIAN STAMP Act, 1899

4.(1) Hundis - Hundis, other than hundis which may be stamped with an adhesive stamp under section 11, shall be written on papers as follows, namely:

(a) A hundi payable otherwise than on demand, but not at more than one year after date or sight and for an amount not exceeding rupees thirty thousand in value, shall be written on paper on which a stamp of the proper value bearing the word 'hundi' has been engraved or embossed.

(b) A hundi for an amount exceeding rupees thirty thousand in value, or payable at more than one year after date or sight, shall be written on paper supplied for sale by the Government to which a label has been affixed by the Collector* of stamp Revenue, Calcutta or a Superintendent of stamps, and impressed by such officer in the manner prescribed by rule 11.

(2) Every sheet of paper on which a hundi is written shall be not less than 85/8 inches long and 51/8 inches wide, and no plain paper shall be joined thereto.

(3) The provisions of sub section (1) of rule 7 shall apply in the case of hundis.

Note - Hundi stamps should not be used for any documents except Hundis under this rule, and for promissory notes and bills of exchange other than those provided for by section 11 of the Act, or by rules 13 and 17 (see rule 5). No plain paper should be joined to an impressed sheet bearing the word 'Hundi'. Clause 3 should be noted carefully.

*Government of India, Finance (C.R) 13, dated 20th May 1926.

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Here is a hundi from 1962 for 5000R written on stamped paper of 2R 50nP. There is no doubt that it is a hundi in that the word "HUNDI' is inscribed as part of the stamp design.

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Wow! Some of these are really beautiful!

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maptrekker wrote:Here is a hundi from 1962 for 5000R written on stamped paper of 2R 50nP. There is no doubt that it is a hundi in that the word "HUNDI' is inscribed as part of the stamp design.

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It was a common practise that large companies pre-printed some data on Hundi forms and subsequently were filled when required. These post-independence series are nice and also contains some varieties such as shifts, doubly printed values.

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gmw39 wrote:Wow! Some of these are really beautiful!

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And George, you still haven´t seen the picturesque watermarks. :D

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ikanek wrote:
peterh wrote:Here's another document - I presume another hundi?

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Yes, this is a Hundi. This one is a joint of several Hundis together, quite common practice. Maybe, someone prepared them for a smaller amount, but later it was joined for a larger sum.

The four long lines of text appear to have been written in one go (continuously) after the papers were joined.

The amount of the Hundi appears to be 10500/= as mentioned in the text at the expected place. At a stamp rate of One Anna for every Hundred Rupees of Hundi value, this particular Hundi appears to be over stamped by more than Two Rupees.

The reverse of this Hundi showing the boxed amount and the discharge details should be very interesting.


A very nice Hundi. Thanks for sharing this image, Peter.
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I too have a few Cinderellas & Telegraphs, need to know if its worth keeping or sell it off

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The Green/Blue Victoria fiscals (4 Anna Horizontals) are quite common. Others are not so common. Appearance of toning/creasing etc decreases the value but they are nice examples nevertheless. Thanks for sharing lovely images.
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bosemithun wrote:I too have a few Cinderellas & Telegraphs, need to know if its worth keeping or sell it off


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These are very nice - happy to buy them off you if you don't want them! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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peterh wrote:The upper half of this lot I believe are to do with Employees' Medical Insurance.

Then we have Radio Licence stamps and two 'Healthy India' charity labels.


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I have those radio licence stamps too. I am told they were required in the 1970s to have a radio at home. Am I correct? Wondering if the 7 you display all the Radio licence stamps there were? Or, were there more?
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Ram wrote:
peterh wrote:
I have those radio licence stamps too. I am told they were required in the 1970s to have a radio at home. Am I correct? Wondering if the 7 you display all the Radio licence stamps there were? Or, were there more?
Many series in many denominations from Rs 0.50 to Rs 50 were issued. These BRL Stamps (Broadcast Reciever Licence) were to be affixed in small Radio Licence Booklets with provision for annual renewal. Separate rates were prescribed for portable Medium Wave Transistors, Portable Medium Wave/ShortWave Transistors, For Radio Sets, Televisions (Screen Size), 2-in-1 (Radio Tape Recorders) etc.

I have some images on https://www.indiancinderellas.wordpress.com

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Birder,
Thanks for the post. Your link was very informative.
Enjoyed reading it.

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I already posted this on another thread, but it fits here as well. This is the latest Indian revenue stamp that was issued (2011) according to Barefoot. It has a nice paper fold error. I got it for $15 on ebay (from an Indian seller). You wouldn't expect errors like these to exist on modern stamps (although a number of similar errors on India revenues are available on ebay). :shock:
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I suspect this was printer's waste? Maybe someone could provide some more details. :)
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A couple of questions:

1. Could someone show images of what revenues are currently in use in India? The latest issues are not yet listed in Barefoot.

2. Do some states still have Indian revenues overprinted with the name of the state (eg. Gujarat, Maharashtra)?

3. Do some states still issue separate revenue stamps with their own designs (not ovpts on India)? I know Jammu and Kashmir still does.
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HalfpennyYellow wrote:A couple of questions:

1. Could someone show images of what revenues are currently in use in India? The latest issues are not yet listed in Barefoot.

2. Do some states still have Indian revenues overprinted with the name of the state (eg. Gujarat, Maharashtra)?

3. Do some states still issue separate revenue stamps with their own designs (not ovpts on India)? I know Jammu and Kashmir still does.
You asked several interesting questions. The first two questions will be best answered by an Indian as I don´t collect much modern stuff.

As far as I know, there are some specific designs, used for example for entertainment tax, transport tax in Punjab, Haryana and possibly in other Union states.

By the way, Barefoot is not the best reference to British and Post-independence India revenues. The recent work by Heppell, Mollah and Blatt - in two Volumes - Volume 1 has two parts
"Indian Government Fiscal & Judicial Stamps – Pre Independence Issues & All India Post Independence – A4 hardback 525p "

"Indian Government Fiscal & Judicial Stamps and Stamp Papers - Post Independence Provincial Issues and the New States - A4 hardback 250p".

This is available e.g. on the Revenue Society website.

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You can send me your wish list of revenues/court fees stamps/ stamp papers currently in use in India. Unused items as well as used can be organised with some effort.
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birder wrote:You can send me your wish list of revenues/court fees stamps/ stamp papers currently in use in India. Unused items as well as used can be organised with some effort.
Hi Birder, I do not have a wish list of India revenues as there are too many issues and I have very few. :)
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HAlfPenny Yellow, You can send me your correct postal address anyway. You might get a pleasant surprise.


This embossed Victoria Four Rupees (16.5.1867) remains my favourite revenue.

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Hi all

Would appreciate info on this stamp. Can't find it in my catalogues.

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This is Br. India 1914 3A GV Special Adhesive stamp which is a type of revenue stamp for use on plain paper mostly for notarization purpose as an equivalent to Judicial or Non-Judicial Stamp Paper or for use on Hundi.

Details can be found in "Indian Government Fiscal and Judicial Stamps and Stamp Papers [Vol.I: Pre-Independence Issues (Including Provincial Overprints) Part I: Adhesives]" ed. SM Blatt, Abdal Mullah and David Heppell, privately published in 2004.

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Nice thread for Revenues, an area in which I do not have any literature for reference.

Below is a Notarial overprint on a 1 Rupe Foreign Bill dated 01/09/06. Where there many overprints for Revenue stamps in India?

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VFND55 wrote:Nice thread for Revenues, an area in which I do not have any literature for reference.

Below is a Notarial overprint on a 1 Rupe Foreign Bill dated 01/09/06. Where there many overprints for Revenue stamps in India?

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Yes, there are many overprints on Revenue stamps of British India. Many early issues are known only as overprints, e.g. Small Cause Court Calcutta stamps.

In fact, it has been the fastest and likely the cheapest way how to change the intended use. A lot of Foreign Bill stamps were overprinted with Court Fee, Notarial,...

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Br. India Vic. Foreign Bill stamps were also overprinted for Hundi and for Provincial issues like Maisuru and also were surcharge-overprinted but the most important is the 1866 POSTAGE overprints of 6A SG 66 & 68.

It may be mentioned that Kolkata Small Causes Court was located at 2 Bankshall Street which housed the Kolkata GPO from May 1808 vide Postal Notice dt. May 5,1808 issued by JH d'Oyly, Postmaster General of B Presidency (1807-10), till April 1828.

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HEALTHY INDIA CHARITY LABELS

These charity stamps are from 1951. They were designed and printed by Thomas De La Rue Co of London.
They were sold as charity labels by hospitals etc. and were meant for T.B. eradication promotion campaign.

There were three denominations:
1 Anna, 4 Annas and 1 Rupee

They were issued on 26th January 1951 throughout India.

As well as the two (1 Anna and 4 Annas) stamps previously shown in the post, there was a third stamp of 1 Rupee denomination.

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Dear All,

The BERAR Stamps from my collection

1 Anna

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2 Anna

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4 Anna

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6 Anna



10 Anna

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12 Anna


1 Anna Small :

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There are stamps of 1 1/2 Rupees , 2 Rupees, 3 Rupees ,
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Photobucket Ransom images in this thread all swapped over today.

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Need help with identification of this court fee stamp have a few of them but the problem is not able to find anything abt it on google or any websites, need to know if its rare and whats the estimated value of it, its in mint mnh condition with a specimen overprint on it. Please click the link to see that stamp.

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Upload via IMGUR please.
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Re: India Revenues, Stamped Papers and other Cinderellas

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This is the stamp posted by bosemithun
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Specimens of the 1872-75 Court Fee issues are definitely not common. The 1000r is catalogued at £250 in the 2012 Barefoot; I don't know if a specimen overprint means it is worth more than that or less (in some cases it is easier to find specimens etc than issued stamps).

It's definitely a nice stamp to have. :)
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Re: India Revenues, Stamped Papers and other Cinderellas

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I’ve been looking for some unused revenue papers but looks like not much interest generally in them. A few pop up on eBay for extravagant amounts. Does anyone know where these might be found (other than ebay?)

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