INDIA - "Lady Minto's Fete Calcutta" Jan 1907 set (?) of 3

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INDIA - "Lady Minto's Fete Calcutta" Jan 1907 set (?) of 3

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Bought these in an estate recently.

India Relief Fund - 'Lady Minto's Fete Calcutta Jan 1907': Blocks 4 of both 4A values (one in Mini Sheet format) also a margin block of 11 of the multi-colour 1 Rupee, plus a separate set of 3. Cleanable toning (22) $A85

Typed these up on my latest list. I figured they MUST be worth under 4 bucks each!

I have never seen these before. Most attractive, and very well designed - indeed as good as the issued stamps of this time. Better actually as most of them were not tri-colour!

Is 3 values the full set does anyone know? What exactly was the Relief Fund raising money for?



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This is Lady Minto, said to be taken 1907.

Lord Minto , was a Viceroy of India

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" The last week of April found the Vice-regal household settled in Simla, the place which Minto had found odious on his first visit, but which he was soon to appreciate.

It was a change of residence, but no change of life, for the inexorable files flowed in ceaselessly, and the Viceroy was fortunate if he snatched an hour's ride in the day. In June they had an alarming earthquake, and in July the community was saddened by the tragic news of Lady Curzon's death.

Lady Minto was hard at work at her organization of the Indian Nursing Association, and preparing for the huge Fancy Fete in Calcutta which was to provide it with endowments. In this scheme she had Mr. Morley's warm support.

"Do you know," he wrote, "that I have often wondered whether I would not rather be in Lord Shaftesbury's place on the Day of Judgment than in the place of all the glittering statesmen. I mean that I would rather have done something pretty certain-nothing is quite certain--to mitigate miseries such as your Nursing Scheme aims at, than have done all the grand things about which high speeches are made and great articles written in the newspapers."

There were expeditions in which the hard-worked Viceroy sometimes managed to join, and the marvellous ritual of the household never ceased to inspire awe. After a very wet ride they arrive at Fagu in the hills, and Lady Minto's journal notes: "The scarlet servants with immovable faces stood round the table as usual, looking as if they had never left Government House.

Francis Grenfell told me he expected a picnic luncheon, but I informed him that the Viceroy must have his silver plate, his Star of India china, and every variety of wine, even if he happens to be on the highest pinnacle of the Himalaya mountains, and somehow they always appear as if by magic!"

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Perfect .. thanks GJ .... that explains why they are so nicely printed I'd guess.

Husbands in HIGH places!

They can't have sold too many though, as I've never seen them before.
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I have seen the map one's a couple of times, not sure where, but as a collector of Indian material abroad, probably in a book or mag.

The portrait ones, I have never seen.

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There was an article on this subject in the old UK magazine "Stamps" dated April 1981. The fete was to raise money for Calcutta hospitals.

The designs were based on the Edward VII definitives of Canada, and the famous Canadian commemorative showing the Empire in red. The Earl of Minto (Viceroy of India ) was formerly Governor-General of Canada, which is presumably why the designs were chosen.

The fund-raising labels were withdrawn as they were too close in design to postage stamps. I guess this is why so many have survived. They are not particularly rare, but with the increase in interest in Cinderellas generally are no doubt quite in demand.

I knew that my squirrelling away of old magazine cuttings would pay off one day!!!!

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Well done Malcolm.

I mailed these off to an Indian client this week, so he will be interested to read of that extra info I am sure. :)

My wish is that eventually this board will substitute for folks needing to have clipped out old paper magazines .. a quick check of "Lady Minto's Fete Calcutta" in "search" or on Google hopefully will assist a generation of future collectors to locate this very thread!
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Glen

Perhaps. But I paraphrased and much reduced the content of the magazine article in the interest of not falling foul of any copyright which may or may not exist for the article - either by the people who own the intellectual property of the now defunct magazine or the author.

There has been much discussion on many boards about copyright , but not much about how one finds out who owns said copyright.

It seems to me that in magazine articles it should be a requirement that at the end it should show the copright symbol and who owns it.

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Malcoln .. long discussion of copyright and this board was held here - FYI

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=1767
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I have read the thread , but I am afraid I am not much wiser in respect of the content of the magazine article I used.

As I understand it the INFORMATION cannot be copyrighted as it is in the public domain - if you can find it ! However the article verbatim is copyright to the author, unless it is a part of the agreement with the magazine to pass the copyright to them as part of the fee for writing it.

The question is what percentage of the verbatim can be used without breaching the author's copyright ?

This is why I took the trouble to "rewrite" the article, omitting some of the writer's opinions, and some of the fine detail.

As was mentioned in the thread the likelihood of repercussions ( especially so far on ) is unlikely, but plagiarism is immoral as well as illegal, and I would not want to go down that road.

It is probable that for many writers articles in a magazine ( as opposed to the contents of a book ) are written as much to inform as to make money - and as I am not making money out of passing on the contents ( which I think might be a different kettle of fish entirely ) there is no harm done.

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Malcolm as long as correct attribution to source and author is given, fair non-for-profit use on a board such as this will be fine I am sure. 8)
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"The Indian story is somewhat the same, except the stamps are not listed in the catalog, although unlike the Connell stamp, they did actually see usage on letters and they were recognized as valid by the Indian Post Office.

To celebrate an annual fete which they sponsored, Lord and Lady Minto had the official Indian State Printing Office, the same organisation which printed Indian stamps, prepare a set of 3 stamps to commemorate the fete which was held from early December 1906 until late January 1907.

Two of the stamps bore the denomination of 4a, one with a portrait of Lord Minto, the other showing Lady Minto. the third stamp passed as an undenominational with no value stated, bearing a map of India.

Covers showing the stamps passing for postage and accepted by the Post Office are not rarities. In addition to the Calcutta postmark, the stamps are cancelled with a large red "X".

The Community was outraged, the precedent was established that only royalty could be pictured on stamps of the British Colonies (as well as the home country), with an assist from New Brunswick. The stamps were quietly withdrawn, and their further use on mail prohibited."
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Here we go, from Bill Hornadge's Cinderella Corner in the February 1985 Stamp News:

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Great news clipping!

We used this set in the last Trivia night! Q4:

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I offered a cover from here for sale recently:

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Lady Minto Fete Calcutta, Red Cross cancel cover 1907

Rare and unusual on cover .. postcards seem to have been mostly used.

Nice clean India 1 Anna PSE with lovely strike of the special bold RED CROSS design cancel -

"Minto Fete 10 PM/19(Cross)07/5 Fe Calcutta"

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Hi, I have only one of these , the four anna blue one... do you still have these and plan to sell them off? Please let me know...
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ozstamps wrote:
I mailed these off to an Indian client this week, so he will be interested to read of that extra info I am sure. :)
I still have the cover though. :mrgreen:

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I still have the cover though.

Am still looking for these 1907 Lady Minto Fete stamps and covers. My set is still incomplete. :(

Let me know if you have any for sale
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Well this is a scarce stamp subject, and googling the words "Lady Minto's Fete" brings the thread up as global match number one -

http://www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=hts&oq ... 0%99s+Fete

Maybe you should have grabbed the cover above whilst it was still for sale? One does not see these items every day. :)

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Aranyadc,

One of the Grumpy Old Men's Club is interested in collecting these "Lady Minto's Fete Calcutta" stamps, if you have any duplicated to pass on.

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Well , why I missed out??

1. I was new to stampboard,
2. Landed up with better job than before...
3. Got little wiser.. than before..
4. etc etc.
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Anyways, if you come across these items.. do let me know...
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Philanthropist wrote:Aranyadc,
One of the Grumpy Old Men's Club is interested in collecting these, if you have any duplicated to pass on.
Regards
Am rather looking to collect these "Lady Minto's Fete Calcutta" stamps ... if someone is selling/ exchanging I am interested... I just have one of the series...my collection looks so incomplete without the rest....
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That was quick :shock: :o

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Hi,

I want to buy 1907 Lady Minto Fete stamps and covers.

If anyone is interested then please let me know.

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Better pic of the single stamp 4 Anna - "Lady Minto's Fete Calcutta" from 1907.
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Glen ,
You have it???? :?
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Not now. Posted for reference of others.
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I am interested to buy the Lady Minto Cancellation on cover. Can any one offer to me?
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Lady Minto's Fete - Calcutta 1907

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In order to boost the takings for Lady Minto's Fete (a very English middle-class affair in Calcutta to raise funds for the Indian Nursing Association) three stamps were issued by the committee...

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As the stamps featured Lord and Lady Minto and not King Edward VII, the issue was widely denounced and Lord Minto ordered their recall and destruction immediately.

A few escaped though, hence what you see above... these are probably the rarest Indian Cinderella stamps known, the one Rupee value is off-the-scale rare.

The good news is that I'm putting two of the three in my next auction starting later today - Lord Minto is in my current auction ending in three hours, so hurry! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Here's a link...https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/I-B-India-Cinderella-Lady-Mintos-F ... 5447f45481
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The annoying thing is that I did check to see if anything had been posted before... and nothing came-up. That's technology for you...
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Not Bruce wrote:these are probably the rarest Indian Cinderella stamps known, the one Rupee value is off-the-scale rare.
Other than my block 11 above, and the single that came with them I've never seen them before. My client who paid a couple of bucks apiece will be pleased! :)
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Evidently the festivities were held from the back end of January and into early February 1907.

As a little background, I attach a post card sent by sea post on 09.06.1907 from Mother to student son at Heidelberg College, Germany. The one Anna E VII stamp is cancelled with a MINTO FÊTE red cross cancel. (The Maidan is an open space in or near a town, used as a parade ground.) The text reads:

Hotel Continental, Feb: 6 : 1907

Darling Alec,

I am sending you this p.c. as a memento of the Minto Fête which has been held for the last ten days on the Maidan in the part where the Ochterlony Column stands. The stamps will be defaced with a red cross as it is in aid of hospitals and various Calcutta charities. I wrote and told you all about it in my last letter I sent……

I went to see the Highland gathering yesterday, the soldiers looked very fine in their kilts. There were 36 pipers.

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The card was posted at the temporary Maydan PO which was specifically set up at the Brigade Parade Ground for the Minto Fête.

Between Jan 28 and Feb 7,1907, total 25546 postal articles were posted at the Maydan PO which applied the open MINTO FETE cross cancelation on all dispatch mail.

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The edifice at the left is the Governor's House.

The distant dome just at the right of the base of the monument, is of Kolkata GPO at the western side of the Tank Square, now officially called Binay-Badal-Dinesh Square, named after the three great sons of India.

The building at the left of the tree is where the National Library of India was located.

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Excellent! Thank you!

As always, you have covered everything.

Cheers,

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