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Another early record company, pre-WW1
BEKA = Bumb & Konig, started as early as 1905.
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Ahoj everyone!

Anyone know anything about this cinderella?

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It reads 'All Russian Disabled Soldiers Relief Committee'.

It is in English and denominated in cents, so is it American (or Canadian)?

It bears the hammer and sickle so perhaps dates to about 1919.

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Ahoj everyone!

Another very colourful WWI patriotic pre-Revolutionary Russian cinderella from 1914 .

Anyone know what the abbreviations stand for and its history?

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Ahoj again!

This chap has attracted a couple of bids on ebay.

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Royal Surgical Aid Society

Be a Brick and help build up the Deformed, Stricken & Maimed

1d brown

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Ahoj again!

Here is another cinderella from Belgium that has attracted a bid on ebay.

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OSTEND _ DOVER

Four new oil-fired ferry-boats.

The finest and quickest in the North Sea.

I am guessing it dates from the 1930s. Can anyone confirm that?

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Ahoj again!

This chap has attracted a couple of bids on ebay.

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Royal Surgical Aid Society

Be a Brick and help build up the Deformed, Stricken & Maimed

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This would be world war one, after many soldiers were maimed by bullets, shrapnel and mustard gas. Some had their jaws blown off or eyes gouged out and they needed Plastic surgery and reconstruction to increase their self esteem (People especially ignorant little children were cruel then) and be able to adjust to post war life.

Discrimination was rife and many employers would not hire a maimed or disfigured individual. Many of the harmed soldiers were low ranking enlisted men who did not have the money for these operations and thus charity was needed.

The war left psychological scars too, as the numbers of psychiatric institutions increased in the 1920s and 1930s. Scarring from watching bloodbaths, mustard gas, shell shock and other maladies affected many men. It was sad and this was a very noble cause. It could give these men back some of their dignity.

After all, they suffered injuries and scars along with permanent disfigurement for a war they did not start!
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Ahoj Princestamps!

You are quite right to assume it dates back to WW1. I estimate it to be from around 1920.

Meanwhile here is yet another cinderella - this time from Norway.

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Scandinavia had a tradition of colourful labels for Christmas charities and this one is for the Seamen's Mission and dates from 1932.

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Ahoj again!

A similar nautical Xmas cinderella from Denmark in 1922.

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Honza - that got an accidental POSTAL cancel as well! Was probably affixed near a correct postage stamp.
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honza wrote:
Ahoj everyone!

Another very colourful WWI patriotic pre-Revolutionary Russian cinderella from 1914 .

Anyone know what the abbreviations stand for and its history?

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Cheers,

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The "S.P.B" at the top will be "St PetersBurg", the "G.O.Ye" I've no idea!

From the date and the flags, probably some kind of society of friendship / solidarity with the World War One Allies.

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Ahoj Glen & Gavin!

Thank you for your comments.

Will the lower two flags be those of Serbia and Montenegro?

Meanwhile here is another item:-

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It shows a type of thistle with Polish inscription, but has no denomination or description of charity. Is it just a sticky label for decoration rather than a cinderella with a purpose?

Cheers,

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Ahoj Glen & Gavin!

Thank you for your comments.

Will the lower two flags be those of Serbia and Montenegro?

Meanwhile here is another item:-

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It shows a type of thistle with Polish inscription, but has no denomination or description of charity. Is it just a sticky label for decoration rather than a cinderella with a purpose?

Cheers,

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If I remember well, it's an intermediate label in one of Polish postage stamp issues in the mid-1960s, something like nature preservation or tourism

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Ahoj vicaf60!

Thank you for your quick response.

That makes perfect sense and something I had never thought of.

Such things are called coupons by the Czech post office.

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honza wrote:
Ahoj everyone!

Another very colourful WWI patriotic pre-Revolutionary Russian cinderella from 1914 .

Anyone know what the abbreviations stand for and its history?

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Cheers,

Honza

It was already correctly stated that С.П.Б. stands for Санкт-Петербург = St.Petersburg

Г.О.У. means Городское общественное управление = City Public Administration, a city executive body in the pre-revolution Russia, that was subordinate to a governor and included the most influential representative of the city population. This body was responsible, among other things, for collecting donations from the population.

This stamp is one of many issued in the preiof between 1914 and 1917 to raise funds to support the wounded in combat actions, their families and families of soldiers killed in action.

If you can read Russian, you'll find a more detailed information here: https://little-histories.org/2018/11/26/charity_stamps/

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honza wrote:
Ahoj vicaf60!

Thank you for your quick response.

That makes perfect sense and something I had never thought of.

Such things are called coupons by the Czech post office.

Cheers,

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yes, in Russian they are called купон as well :)

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Here's one I haven't seen before. Have others?

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A nice label Rod, presumably S.African.

I wonder if any other Dominion or colony used similar .

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vikingeck wrote:A nice label Rod, presumably S.African.

I wonder if any other Dominion or colony used similar .

Selling ?
Selling? Not yet, vikingeck; the addressee was one of my dearest clients.

Sometimes, nostalgia rules.

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Hi all, I'm not a Cinderella man so I wonder if someone can tell me if this is one?

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South American country maybe?


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Some more from 78rpm record companies - this time Victor.

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Sympathy please. I just scanned two French Revenue stamps from the 1880s to ask a question about them here. In returning them to the album I knocked a corner off one of them. Survived 130 years only to be damaged by a clumsy old man. Feel very down about this.

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This is the stamp I knocked the bottom right hand corner off:

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I am so discouraged by doing this I don't feel like continuing to get back into stamp collecting.

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This paper gets quite brittle and great copies are few and far between... but this is very common and I have several damaged copies waiting use on some art project.
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Who was Wing-Commander Goble???!! And why are these worth $225? :lol: :lol:

The very rare of the famous PALS labels - full story on them all here -

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stampmanalan wrote:Hi All,

Here are some images of some of my favourite Cinderellas being Herald and Pals labels.

To those interested I hope you enjoy,

Cheers,

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You are easily pleased.

All appalling crude ebay fakes. Landfill. :roll: :roll: :roll:

The GENUINE Pals Air Mail stamp looks like this - cat $4000 -
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I'm quite fond of many Cinderella items, although I've resisted the temptation to form a great collection.

I could not resist, however, the following item, bought in the last Tasmanian Stamp Auctions sale!
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Finally, I've found a "stamp" that will wow my non-philatelic, beer-drinking mates!

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Rod Perry wrote:I'm quite fond of many Cinderella items, although I've resisted the temptation to form a great collection.
WHY ?
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Rod Perry wrote:I'm quite fond of many Cinderella items, although I've resisted the temptation to form a great collection.

I could not resist, however, the following item, bought in the last Tasmanian Stamp Auctions sale!
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Finally, I've found a "stamp" that will wow my non-philatelic, beer-drinking mates!

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Nice pick up. I did like kid's beer as KB was called years ago in the gold cans, so consider me wowed.

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Ubobo.R.O. wrote:
Rod Perry wrote:I'm quite fond of many Cinderella items, although I've resisted the temptation to form a great collection.
WHY ?
Got enough on my philatelic plate already, Terry.

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Has anyone seen these before ? I have no idea of country of issue, era or anything else about these.
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Collecting worldwide postage and revenue stamps - focusing on Malta, British Commonwealth and revenues in general

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I have this presentation folder contains ten Cinderella stamps showing father Damien

Father Damien or Saint Damien of Molokai (1840 – 1889), born Jozef De Veuster, was a Roman Catholic priest from Belgium and member of the Congregation of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary, a missionary religious institute. He won recognition for his ministry, which he lead from 1873 until his death in 1889, in the Kingdom of Hawaiʻi for people with leprosy (also known as Hansen's disease), who were required to live under a government-sanctioned medical quarantine on the island of Molokaʻi, off the Kalaupapa Peninsula (Wikipedia)

I have no information about this folder and don't know who issued it. The Cinderella stamps are well designed and engraved but no name of the designer nor the engraver appears on them:
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Here are the stamps. Description of the stamps on the cover's back:
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Has anyone seen these before ? I have no idea of country of issue, era or anything else about these.
HalfPennyYellow of course provided a good collection of Stampboards links about the SAG seals but the issues of 1933 predominate, like Terry's above. Here are a few more.

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1924 - S.A.G - Paterson, NJ
Note the difference in imprint and color. These were likely used in other years.


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1925 - S.A.G. Paterson, NJ


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1928 - S.A.G. - Paterson, NJ


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1941 - S.A.G. - Paterson, NJ


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S.A.G. PROBABLY Paterson, NJ also... I have not been able to pin this one down.
Note the cancel... sure would like to find this or others on cover.


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1933 design - executed crudely on card stock.
Same design as threads referenced by HalfPennyYellow
The normal 1933 seal is found in several shades of brown, but NOT this reddish color.
It may be an essay or cut square from a booklet cover.

There are of course related seals from other places. And group of Franciscans is likely to turn to the Oviedo, Spain legend for inspiration.

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1931 St. Anthony Shrine - Graymoor, NY


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St. Anthony Shrine - Graymoor, NY - Unknown Year


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St. Anthony Shrine - Graymoor, NY - Unknown Year
I would be very interested to hear of any use of such on a cover with or without a hand written SAG. European seals likely exist. In theory, covers from the pre-stamp era could exist, outside the one known in the church in Oviedo, Spain.

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Eli wrote:I have this presentation folder contains ten Cinderella stamps showing father Damien

Father Damien or Saint Damien of Molokai (1840 – 1889), born Jozef De Veuster, was a Roman Catholic priest from Belgium and member of the Congregation of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary, a missionary religious institute. He won recognition for his ministry, which he lead from 1873 until his death in 1889, in the Kingdom of Hawaiʻi for people with leprosy (also known as Hansen's disease), who were required to live under a government-sanctioned medical quarantine on the island of Molokaʻi, off the Kalaupapa Peninsula (Wikipedia)

I have no information about this folder and don't know who issued it. The Cinderella stamps are well designed and engraved but no name of the designer nor the engraver appears on them:
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Beside the presentation folder about Father Damien i posted above, I seek for information for two items I bought for my Mythology stamp collection:

First is a cover sent registered from Thessaloniki, Greece franked with a complete set of the Greek Mythology figure stamps;
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On the back of the cover a Cinderella stamp which I have no information about it. I can read the word "Thessaloniki" and the date September 6-27, 1936. Appreciate if someone could translate the rest and tell about it:
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Second item is this souvenir sheet from Spain of five beautiful engraved stamps depicting Velasquez paintings I bought for my mythology stamp collection. It is not listed in the catalogue. Someone told me the stamps are not regular postage stamps but used to charity purpose. I appreciate any information about it. I enclose the SS and one stamp in high resolution:
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Hello Eli,

The Greek label is advertising the 11th Thessaloniki International Trade Fair.

These fairs are still held annually in September.

The Spanish sheet appears to be a charity item in aid of orphans of the post office.
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Thanks, Nigel

Now I remember you told me about the Greek Cinderella but maybe than I didn't notice your comment since I asked about the stamps:

Thessaloniki Fair Cinderella

About the Spanish SS, do you have any idea who issued it? was it issue by the Spanish post?

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Here are three Cinderella labels issued in Arab countries (Egypt?).

Label issued in Egypt during 1948 Israel-Egypt war, aimed to collect donations to support the war. It shows the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem and the bottom inscription reads "Donations to save Arab Palestine":
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I have no information about these two labels but I think they were issued to raise donations to support the Arab war against Israel or maybe the Arab revolt during the British Mandate for Palestine period. I appreciate any information about them:
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Eli wrote:Here are three Cinderella labels issued in Arab countries (Egypt?).

Label issued in Egypt during 1948 Israel-Egypt war, aimed to collect donations to support the war. It shows the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem and the bottom inscription reads "Donations to save Arab Palestine":
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I have no information about these two labels but I think they were issued to raise donations to support the Arab war against Israel or maybe the Arab revolt during the British Mandate for Palestine period. I appreciate any information about them:
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You could have called me up. Egyptian item is a set of about 10, first issued after the first arab league meeting in 1946.
Second was issued by Jordan, also has various types, and was issued after it annexed Judea and Samaria in 1952.
Third, I have never seen.

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killmenow wrote:You could have called me up. Egyptian item is a set of about 10, first issued after the first arab league meeting in 1946.
Second was issued by Jordan, also has various types, and was issued after it annexed Judea and Samaria in 1952.
Third, I have never seen.
Many thanks, Lawrence, for this great information. Strange the Jordanian label (the second) value is Mils, although in 1952 the Jordanian Dinar, divided to Fils, was in use in Judea and Samaria.

I will try to find information about the third label (The top inscription of it reads "صندوق الامة العربي" (Arab Nation Fund) and the value is 5 Mils), but I don't know who issued it and when.

Thanks, Eli

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Re: The Spirit of Cinderella(s) stamps - show your favourite

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Micky wrote:
20 Apr 2019 18:19
Hi all, I'm not a Cinderella man so I wonder if someone can tell me if this is one?

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South American country maybe?

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Italy: it is one of the revenue stamps used to pay a tax on school exercise books. This was issued in 1936.
The first number (2) is the amount of the tax (cents of lira), the second (8) is number of sheets of the book: being folded in the middle and double sided they made up 32 pages.
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I just posted in "Mythologies of the World" thread the following set which I think could be considered as Cinderella. it is an unofficial set of 15 stamps issued in 1914 in Moschopolis (Now Voskopojë in Albania), Epirus for publicity and propaganda purposes. Six stamps of the set show old coins from Epirus and the rest show the coat of arms of Epirus in 1914:


Head of Persephone with flowing hair and corn-wreath:

Epirus 1914 Moschopolis 2.jpg

Goddess Athena with spear and shield:

Epirus 1914 Moschopolis 4.jpg

Head of Zeus in oak-wreath:

Epirus 1914 Moschopolis 5.jpg

Nike, goddess of Victory, standing left, holding wreath:

Epirus 1914 Moschopolis 6.jpg

Dione with sceptre

Epirus 1914 Moschopolis 7.jpg

Unknown design to me:

Epirus 1914 Moschopolis 3.jpg

Nine stamps of the set show the coat of arms of Epirus in 1914:

Epirus 1914 Moschopolis 1.jpg

Epirus 1914 Moschopolis a.jpg

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