Antarctica 1954 Expedition Cinderella Stamps!

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Antarctica 1954 Expedition Cinderella Stamps!

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Could someone tell me the history of the attached.

I cannot find them in any catalogue and surmise they are Cinderella's perhaps issued by the expedition itself.

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I have a set of the four of these, and they are labels/cinderellas. AFAIK the set was first issued in 1954 for the expedition, and there was a later reprint (in different colours?) issued, possibly by Seven seas Stamps in the 1960's. I do not know which is which though.

I also don't know if they are worth anything.

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I have a pair of these somewhere as well. I've seen a footnote in a catalogue at some stage re these, but I can't remember where, when or the details. So I'm no help really!
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A Monty Wedd drawn, Bill Hornadge produced special for Seven Seas Stamps.

Bill used them on postcards from the AAT.

And also sold the stamp is sets perforated and IMPERF and ROULETTED at times.


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Thanks for the information. Very useful
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...A souvenir sheet (10mm x 8mm) was also issued...
That must be the World's Smallest Cinderella :!:

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At an auction in Perth last weekend I purchased the original complete set of four, together with the Souvenir Sheet and the 1994 Souvenir block of four.

I was pleased to get them for only $8 and they will form part of a display I am putting together
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Antarctica, 1954 expedition. How many in set?

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Is the full set of this series? On eBay only the blue and green are up right now: one seller offers them for $2.49 each; the other for $12.75 each!! (both buy-it-now). What would be a reasonable value?

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Just asked Harry, and he says they come in about 12 different types inc Imperfs, and also a Black sheet of 4.

He can remember a Yellow one as well. and adds that Seven Seas Stamps put these out, and says he can bring them in, but that will be next week .. so a Bit late for you, :(
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Thanks mrboggler. I got these in a large batch of mixed stuff, and was curious about them. I'll be selling them off. I won't be able to clip over next weex, though (my Passport needs to be renewed)! :D

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He still says he will bring them in, so I can update here with any further info as it comes to hand, :wink:
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jno wrote:What would be a reasonable value?


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There is a green one in PERFORATED FORMAT ( yours are rouletted) on ebay UK today at 0.99p auction start with no bids so far!

It would seem that " Reasonable price" is what you can get for them :lol: :lol: If they came in a mixed bag and are not terribly scarce , and further more you do not want them then maybe $2 is reasonable. $12 BIN for two seems greedy if it doesn't sell.
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There is a bit more on the thread

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=32932

AUD $5 is probably about right - $2.49 seems a good deal, but $12.75 seems too much.

The cynic in me would like to point out that some eBay vendors would appear to be applying these cinderellas to $1 AAT covers - and getting $20+ for them...

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I'm pretty certain that the four main designs (plane, penguins, Antarctic map, ship) come in green, purple, yellow, red and blue (plus possibly black?) So potentially 20 or 24 copies in the series and if some are differently perfed, then 40 or 48 copies!

Most I've seen are properly perforated although some are rouletted.

The really common ones (in the UK anyway) are purple penguins and green planes.

I would sell them for £1.99 each or maybe £2.99 each for the maps and boats as you don't see those very often over here.

Hope this helps,

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I found these on the internet:

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The mono page from Bill Hornadge's Cinderella Catalogue above clearly outlines the first PERFORATED printing are far scarcer than the rouletted new colours issues he produced in large numbers for the packet trade.

I bought fresh MUH sheets today of the red ship, green plane, and yellow map if anyone collects unusual AAT material.

After 58 years I bet not many MUH sheets have survived .. been decades since I saw one.

Perfect Hagner sheet/stockbook page size. :)

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Glen said:
The mono page from Bill Hornadge's Cinderella Catalogue above clearly outlines the first PERFORATED printing are far scarcer than the rouletted new colours issues he produced in large numbers for the packet trade.
Did you mean this (1990) extract?

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Jim I was referring to post 4 above.

The YELLOW map stamps were not part of Bill's remainders it seems.

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OK - was not clear to me...

Bill Hornadge's price list seems to suggest that the perforated sheets are worth twice as much as the rouletted or imperf sheets (1990's $30 vs $15).

I would note, however, that like Aust Roo's and KGV's, AAT Cinderellas seem to have increased relative to the Hornadge's 1990's catalogue prices.

And yellow on white is an ugly combination.

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Yes Bill said the yellow was a mistake, in the same catalogue. :)

In fairness it was more an orange yellow - see pic below.

I am listing all 3 sheets when I get around to it for $60 the lot, so they'll soon be gone. 8)

However if you collect Aust KGV heads, a used lime yellow is $500 and is essentially transparent!
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I thought I'd add this to the topic as there wasn't one of these "cinders" with cover usage shown yet.

Note the re-dating of it from 1954 to 1956:

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First 1956 label I have seen Lakatoi 4 - were you intending to start a new thread? :lol:

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From the most recent Australian Stamps Professional (which is running an ongoing series on Mawson in Antarctica):
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Note "suggestion" by Australian Stamps Professional that the "souvenir sheet of four stickers was issued by the 1953-55 Australian National Antarctic Research Expedidition...to commemorate the event"...

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Apologies for the scans, which were from a bound copy of Cinderellas Australasia (Volume 7, No 4, November 1990), and are of a letter of 14 May 1990 from Bill Hornadge to Wilson Ilbery (then President of the Cinderella Stamp Club of Australasia):

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Most of the printings (of the Antarctica 1954 Expedition Label) went straight to Seymour Friedlander who owned ZENITH STAMPS in USA and BROADWAY APPROVALS in UK - the two world's largest junior approval firms at the time. They must have taken several hundred thousand sets (of the Antarctica Labels, the 1956 Olympic Games Labels, and REDEX Labels) at the time but we kept no records and neither did the printer when I contacted him a couple of years ago to try and get some information.

In that period (the late 1950's and early 1960's) very severe import controls operated and we weren't allowed to send ANY money at all out of Australia to buy stamps. All our stock had to be acquired on complicated barter arrangements and printing and selling the labels was a very useful way of generating barter credit to purchase the stock we required for the Seven Seas Stamps junior operation so perhaps 95% of all we printed of these labels was exported while we used the other 5% here in our own operations. We considered these solely as a junior approval line and their value as Cinderellas was the last thing on our minds at the time. They were simply useful stock fillers."
Bill Hornadge's Cinderella "Catalogue" (which is really a compilation of "brochures" of stock he was selling with "better than average" write ups, and still available on CD) never mentions that these labels were intended as either stock fillers, for the junior approval line, or for "barter credit". Neither do his "Local Posts of Australia"[/i] or "Cinderella Stamps of Australasia" publications.

One wonders what Bill Hornadge might have thought on the publication of this "private correspondence". :roll:

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jaywalker wrote:First 1956 label I have seen Lakatoi 4 - were you intending to start a new thread? :lol:
No Jim, just reviving an old thread :idea:
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