Lundy Island stamps - and oddities

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Lundy is an acquired taste I guess.
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Here is a Lundy cover that I just picked up in a .25cent box!

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Rackrunner wrote:Here is a Lundy cover that I just picked up in a .25cent box!

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Good score, a very late use of the 1 puffin, and the card has a fulmar, another bird captured on a Lundy stamp, this time the 1951 Birds set.
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amfhf1 wrote:All you will every need to read on Lundy.

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Here is one; slightly different stamps than the other sheet. There seems to be some small difference in the stamp printings, or maybe just different scanners?
I bought several approval sheets from Broadway back in the sixties; haven't see them in a while, around here somewhere.

Don't imagine too many sheets survived if you took their advice and pasted it into the inside of your album cover. :D

Does anyone have a year range these sheets were offered?

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amfhf1 wrote:All you will every need to read on Lundy.

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Here is one; slightly different stamps than the other sheet. There seems to be some small difference in the stamp printings, or maybe just different scanners?
I bought several approval sheets from Broadway back in the sixties; haven't see them in a while, around here somewhere.

Don't imagine too many sheets survived if you took their advice and pasted it into the inside of your album cover. :D

Does anyone have a year range these sheets were offered?

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Its hard to say Patg, they have a range of between 1939 and 1960s. Mainly as the first card shows only stamps issued up to 1939 and the second also similar.

The 1/2 and 1 puffin stamps date from 1929, the 6, 9, 12 are 1930. The 2 and 3 puffin are 1939, although there was a reissue of them in 1957. But these stamps were used right up to 1974 and they were overprinted dozens of times. So that leaves a 25 year elbow.

I would say the writing style and art would suggest its post 1935 and they use the word empire rather than Commonwealth, so its before 1953. A guess to the date would be about 1950. But it does say it all happened a few years ago and there was a stamp collecting buzz from 1935 onwards and the Americans were a few years ahead in graphics style so...

earliest probable date 1935 -1941 (Before the war) or 1946 -1952, either way they were probably printed over a period of a few years. The page also states he's a subject of King George, so before Queen Elizabeth and therefore before 1952. Also Martin Coles Harman died in 1954, so if he's still alive, its got to be before then.

The Lundy Catalogue by Puffin Stamps (2003) has each stamp at between 1 and 1.75 GBP.
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A few Lundy stamps 1953 Coronation etc. and a cover from Europa 1961

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Nothing of great value, but a very nice selection of material there, great Europa Cover, that would be worth 3 to 5 quid. This was 1961 when they wouldn't let Lundy do a Europa set, but in 1962 Lundy did a really nice one with the puffin.

Your others are from the 1954/55 Millenary issues. 4 from the silver anniversary set of landscapes, 1 from the coronation overprints set of 1953 and the rest are from the 1954 airmail set (Two types one has the dates others dosen't). You have 3 values with the dates and 2 without (Different colour borders). The sets went up to the 12 puffin.

The silvers and airmails have the 7 values from 1/2 puffin to 12 puffin, each set is catalogues at 1 - 2 pounds for the whole set.

Thanks for the share. The cover of Europa overprints includes the complete Europa overprint set on the 1955 Lundy Pony set and the 3 Puffin from the same set. (It was the only one like that).

The bird stamp is from the 1955 birds set. Although both the ponies and birds are dated 1954, they are actually 1955 and both sets had over 700,000 copies.
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Came by a few old Lundy approval sheets. I like to keep these intact, as I find them now, for memories of how we use to get our stamps.

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I paid $US130 for this envelope postmarked 7 November 1950 at Barnstaple Devon.
Is this flight cover listed in any Lundy catalogue and if so at what value?

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The stamp is listed here, its a ½ puffin narrow setting cataloging at £2.50, so I think you overpaid there. Stamp was released 8 November 1950

Still it must be worth more as it is on a cover and what luck it is addressed to Martin Coles Harman, the owner of Lundy until 1954 when he died. An overprint on the 1929 ½ puffin, one of many overprints on this venerable stamp.

Interesting cover too, as the stamps of Lundy are on the front not the back. Standard postage in 1950 was 1½d, so the puffinage was accepted.

The cover may be worth its cost after all. I think it is first day, first flight usage too. Flights started in the 1930s when the weather was too inclement for the usual ship crossings. No doubt the winter would have seen the most flights and although early November is still autumn, a good November storm can whip up the Bristol channel, believe you me.

This link should help you more, a great online catalogue
http://www.silverdalen.se/stamps/lundy/lu50_by_air.htm

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Just looking again.

This was a standard cover, as it was a 2nd class from Barnstaple to Chivenor in Devon on November 7th and then obviously taken to Lundy on the morning of the 8th and flown back to the mainland on the 8th.

I knew that Royal Mail would not allow Lundy stamps to be acceptable for postage on the mainland, but fine for the "Puffinage" from Lundy to Ilfracombe or Barnstaple.

Still an interesting cover, great for gracing any Lundy collection.

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Some of my new acquisitions:

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Airmail label stamps of the 1930s. Top row is 1936, bottom 2 are 1935. These came about after a series of tram ticket style stamps from 1934/1935 ran out. There was a series of 6 from ½d to 1/-. As they were based on the mainland, pence rather than puffins were used.

I have 2 fairly common ones the 2d and 3d, both had issues of 2,400 each. Basically they did their duty until 2, 3, and 4 puffin stamps came out in 1939.
I love the hand drawn feel of these items and they are rouletted on the horizontal edges only.

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Next is the 2014 set commemorating 500 years of Trinity House the group minding Lundy lighthouses. The stamps are misaranged as I placed them on the scanner in the wrong order! :oops:

Stamps show - 5 Puffin - The Battery
15 Puffin - Fog Cannon (Built in 1730s, by a rogue who took indentured servants to America for the British govt, except he dumped them on Lundy where they hunted for Corsair treasure and built some nice structures for the rogue!)
47 Puffin (1) South Light Lighthouse
47 Puffin (2) Trinity House stone dated 1819 put up by Thomas Heaven when he bought the island.
60 Puffin (1) Old light, the old lighthouse built by Thomas Heaven in the 1820s superseded in the 1870s.
60 Puffin (2) Lantern room on Old light, now a sundeck!
95 Puffin (1) North light
95 Puffin (2) Trinity house coat of arms.

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Princestamps wrote:The stamp is listed here, its a ½ puffin narrow setting cataloging at £2.50, so I think you overpaid there. Stamp was released 8 November 1950. Still it must be worth more as it is on a cover and what luck it is addressed to Martin Coles Harman, the owner of Lundy until 1954 when he died. An overprint on the 1929 ½ puffin, one of many overprints on this venerable stamp. Interesting cover too, as the stamps of Lundy are on the front not the back. Standard postage in 1950 was 1½d, so the puffinage was accepted. The cover may be worth its cost after all. I think it is first day, first flight usage too. Flights started in the 1930s when the weather was too inclement for the usual ship crossing...
Thank you very much for all the information Princestamps.

This will enable me to write it up in my World collection of covers by Overseas Mailers of New York USA.
The Insert that accompanied this and every cover marketed by this producer will also be displayed on the album page.

Overseas Mailers (OM) produced or marketed thousands of covers for 113 countries including Australia, New Zealand and GB between 1948 and 1976.
This is the only Lundy cover that has been documented with an association with OM.

Thanks again; I will post a scan of the Insert that was sold with this cover once I lay my hands on it :!:
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Here is the Overseas Mailers Insert that accompanied the cover.


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These Lundy stamps showing birds in flight haven't yet been posted on this thread. I'm hoping that one of the board's Lundy specialists can provide me with a year of issue.
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The stamps are on a Zenith Stamp Company approval sheet that was in my Father's collection.

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Hi Steve,

These six are from a set of seven issued on 9th June 1951.

There is also a 7 puffin stamp in black which shows an oystercatcher in flight.
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Thanks, Nigel!
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They are also the first set designed by John Dyke, he would go on to design Lundy stamps for the next 40 years!
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Here's my sole Lundy contribution to this topic. Found this piece in a box of stuff last year. No idea if it has any value.

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BigSaint wrote:All Photobucket “Ransom” images above have been replaced, and saved forever.

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Thankyou Brad. I will add some images in due course.
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Ubobo.R.O. wrote:
BigSaint wrote:All Photobucket “Ransom” images above have been replaced, and saved forever.

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Thankyou Brad. I will add some images in due course.

Yes me too, I have kept up my Lundy and have a bought a few more items. Thanks Big Saint.
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My earliest use of a Lundy stamp on postcard.
This one placed on the front of the postcard.

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Reverse of that postcard.Used in 1936.
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Later the stamp was placed on the address side of the postcard.
An example from 1962.
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Example of the three different values in the Atlantic Coast Air Services set.
Issued in the 1930's. In rolls of 500 labels.

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Example used on cover. Very hard to get.

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Ubobo.R.O. wrote:Example used on cover. Very hard to get.

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Very nice!!! Neat cover too.
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Two Lundy postcards used in 1985.

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Image Some more of my postcards.
ImageMarisco Tavern and General store.Old light 75th anniversary stamp.
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Image50th anniversary of the Lundy post stamp.Note weather report.
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Here is something different. Postcards sent to Lundy.The ones I have are all sent to Miss M Allday who was the lighthouse keepers daughter.

He is pictured on the 8 puffin stamp shown above.Card one is the earliest I have.1904.


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Card two is the earliest I have with a transit mark. Instow 1906.Unfortunately,no arrival cancel. I still don't have a Lundy Island thimble cancel.

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Absolutely amazing, thanks for showing and interesting mix. Thanks Ubobo and you have spurred me to put some of latest Lundy Acquisitions up in the near future.
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Some Lundy postmark impressions done on the reverse of blank postcards.

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LUNDY ISLAND. The alternative collection. Part One.

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Ubobo.R.O. wrote:LUNDY ISLAND. The alternative collection. Part One.

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Hilarious, is this your work or someone elses?
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Ubobo.R.O. wrote:LUNDY ISLAND. The alternative collection. Part One.
Hilarious, is this your work or someone elses?
Gerald King. Plenty cross-overs where those came from; http://philately.ttrr.org/gb/jubilee/gh_pc_06.html , etc.

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I was going to tell Princestamps at the end of my listings but somebody blabbed! :evil:
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Ubobo.R.O. wrote:I was going to tell Princestamps at the end of my listings but somebody blabbed! :evil:
It's not as though there's this thing called Google nowadays - for those who weren't already aware of his various creations over the years. :?

Amusing in their own right: just don't expect any to have been near the island.

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faro wrote:
Ubobo.R.O. wrote:I was going to tell Princestamps at the end of my listings but somebody blabbed! :evil:
It's not as though there's this thing called Google nowadays - for those who weren't already aware of his various creations over the years. :?

Amusing in their own right: just don't expect any to have been near the island.
Thanks Faro. Enjoyed reading amusing in their own right. Showed the covers I don't have. I do have all the stamps and postcards plus the catalogue. They came from the Lundy outpost of The Netherlands!
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LUNDY ISLAND. The alternative collection. Part Two.

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Ubobo.R.O. wrote:LUNDY ISLAND. The alternative collection. Part Two.

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Presumably acquired for "joy of ownership" these Cinderella offspring of real stamps and Cinderella inserts are clearly fun. ("If Lundy Cinders had illegitimate kids, they'd look like this").

Did you ever contemplate "marrying them" alongside the originals they were based on?
That could be the "investment" side of the page!!

You could probably run a quiz to identify any you are not sure of.

(and thanks for the note - I was wondering if it was set up o.k. :D :D )

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Re: Lundy Island stamps - and oddities

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LUNDY ISLAND. The alternative collection. Part Three.

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Now for some real Lundy items.

These scans are all from my collection and do not contain the whole collection or the whole run of Lundy, but feature some less seen items and less common ones (So no first issues or the 1954/56 wallpaper period).

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The 1943 Wright Brothers set, one of the last WW2 Dalkeith Press era set. This again is more overprints on 1929 - 1939 stamps and is quite scarce, notice many of the higher values are a few thousand compared to the 700k plus of each of the low values of the 1954/56 stamps.

The usual errors abound and once again I am missing several stamps of this scarce era.
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Some of the stamps are more common now, but still less often seen.

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The 1950/51 By air series is another scarce item, again done locally and on the cheap with more overprinting. The most scarce is the ½ Puffin with the narrow setting. The 1 Puffin is wide setting (1951), the others are quite common.

The ½ puffin has a high print run, but nearly all were used making it the scarce stamp, the higher values only had a few thousand but most were sold to collectors rather than used.

The 2, 3, 4 Puffin are overprints on the 1939 puffin series which were additional values added to the 1929/30 set of 5. These can be told apart from the 1957's in my next post just by the colours of each stamp.

The 8 Puffin overprint is surprisingly common as it was hardly used at all. Below this is the 1951 Birds set, the first not to feature actual Puffins showing other sea birds. The values also fit in with rates not on the standard Puffin stamps used between 1929 and 1956.

The set was the first designed by John Dyke, who would design most Lundy sets through to the 1990s. His style is recognised by the straight lines and single or double colour printing.

The set is also very common and easy to get. the next set was 1953's coronation shown in a previous post by another poster (Lundy or Honza?), the set was a combination of overprints on the By Air types and other 1929/39 stamps.

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In 1957 came a new definitive set, the design was the same as the 1939, 2, 3 and 4 Puffin but with colour changes. I am missing a 9 Puffin, again despite the high print number, the 1 Puffin is the most rare, used or mint. They were again used up quickly. I also have a used 2 Puffin from 1957.

The set was used up to 1971 with decimalisation.

Below is a piece from 1938 with the original ½, 1 puffin stamps of 1929 and a 1937 Air label, which was used between 1937 and 1939.
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The 1960s saw some really beautiful and well designed issues, printed by Harrisons and then de lar Rue, after the superlative 1962 Malaria issue, we have this gorgeous 1964 Shakespeare set and 1967 Save the sea birds set.

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The Shakespeare issue and Churchill use 4 colour printing, but a fuller job is done for 1967's seabirds issue, feturing stamps in English, French, German and Dutch. The set shows an oil slick as oil tankers became more common as the 1960s wore on and the number of cars and oil powered things increased.

The oil also fouled up the seas killing many sea birds like Puffins, by 1967 numbers were on the plunge from thousands in the 1800s, to a couple of hundred by then, and bottoming out at 5 pairs in 2003. There has been a slow increase to about 30 now. Some of this can be blamed on global warming as birds move north. Lundy is on the southern end of the Puffins range, most Puffins being found further north in the Faeroes, Iceland, Lofoten Islands and Scottish islands.

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The birds issue also came as a sheet and John Dyke designed the 1969 40th anniversary set showing methods of collection. The standard 2 line drawings are accompanied by groovy late 60s colour schemes and blocky 1970 style lettering. It is nice and historic, but drab looking.

It was the last predecimal set issued.
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Decimalisation in Feb 1971 extended to Puffins too, a new Decimal Puffin was 2.4 old Puffin, but stamps did not express this change, they still had the number of Puffin indicated.

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3 new issues emerged in 18 months, compared to just 3 in the 1965 - 1969 period. The first were the decimal definitives released in Feb/Mar 1971 showing scenes and values indicated from ½ to 4 Puffin. These stamps essentially replaced the 1929 - 1957 set, yet there would overprints of a mostly philatelic nature of them until 1990.

In 1974 a new series of definitives based on the ½ Puffin design came out, with many permutations through to 1991.

In 1972 came a set celebrating the Church of St Helena and the Trinity House set, the 5 and 10 Puffin are amongst the most rare of the Decimal puffin series, now cataloguing over £20 each, amazing for a cinderella series. They are hard to find, yet the low values are common.

All 3 sets were designed by John Dyke.
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The mid 1970s saw some more John Dyke excellence including their first Europa issue since 1962.

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The set of 4 based around architectural drawings of early 19th century buildings was issued twice, once with this nice form with values in red and then as an error with a different font and missing the value on one stamp (Not shown).

In 1976 a set showing the American bicentennial was issued and the values kind of sympathise with the Americans over the British, glorifying the rebellion.

One of the early characters of Lundy, Captain Thomas Benson who in the 1710s and 1720s was allowed to ship convicts to American colonies, instead took them to Lundy and forced them to make roads and buildings and convinced the convicts and authorities, Lundy was America. Eventually around 1725 he was found out. He ended up in the American colonies himself, at the pleasure of King George!

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Britannic themes occupied the next issue, showing the Queens silver Jubilee in accession and coronation. The first issue has the royal family expanding on each stamp and the coronation cover shows the throne with the designs of the 1953 coronation set and various Lundy scenes on each stamp. Both are beautiful.
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Coming into the 80s, we get photography with this 1978 Marine life issue. The beautiful set was rehashed for a 2011 cover celebrating the Marine Reserve started in 1971.

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The set was done by Walsall, which was responsible for Lithography stamps and also most of the Caribbean wallpaper and gimmick stamps of Tonga at the time. Still, this is streets ahead of the DIY designs of John Dyke which had dominated the 70s so far. The eel on the 8 Puffin is really electrifying and maybe my favourite Lundy stamp ever.

Below this is the 1982 update of the 1974 definitives, lamentably I have few of the earlier ones, but they were similar to these with lower face values, and added to over the 1970s as rates went up from 2½ Puffin in 1971 to 9½ by 1978 and by 1982 15 Puffin. The set went from 10 to 23 Puffins and was used through to 1991.

This is one of the sets that can still be purchased at the Lundy Post Office.

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Not everything in the 70s was great though, a ½ Puffin stamp was added in 1978 for the local Lundy - UK rate of 9½ Puffin and these are printed on cheep ungummed paper with no watermark. Badly printed, they are still collectable as a complete sheetlet, as many were ripped up and used.
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The 80s were marred by overprints and club one offs, booklets, gimmicks and sheets with Merry Christmas and the like then (Serious high quality issuing came back in the 1990s and has carried on to today). I have a few of these gimmick items, some now are fairly scarce and getting more scarce as they were aimed more at collectors than tourists.

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The 19 Jun 1985 saw a balloon flight from Lundy to the mainland and postcards were issued with a special overprint issue on the 20 Puffin definitive of not 1982, but the large one of the 1974 issue. By 1982 20 Puffin was not a colossal value any more and the value was reissued as a small stamp.

This was a great way to use up old stocks of the large stamp. Here is a block of 4. Below that was the 60th annivesary of the first stamp and unlike in 1954, 1969 and 1979, where nice issues came out, we got overprints like we did back in 1939, but unlike 1939 there was no new values.

The 1982 set was reissued with the overprint, sand the 15p which was not printed over. More copies were made of the 18 puffin and 23 puffin as these were 1st and 2nd class puffinage rates at the time. Rates were contemporary with British rates at the time. I added a pair of 1929s as the set is so drab and the 1929s are abundant in my collection.

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This page shows one of the 1985 postcards, 2,000 were carried in all and 500 were signed, this was not one of them. There were 5,580 of the 20 Puffin stamps overprinted, hence why getting a block of 4 of them is not hard.

Under that is the 1991 definitive set, missing 3 stamps. Still current (with an update in 2002) it showed a modified puffin design.

That is enough of an update for now. Later I will show some of the gorgeous 1990s and 2000s/2010s issues.
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Re: Lundy Island stamps - and oddities

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For those interested in the Lundy Island Local Stamps, I am preparing a simplified illustrated list http://www.acsc-history.info/lundy.aspx

It is slowly being added to and will include images of all stamps issued to date.

The List excludes Variations, Proofs, Specimens, First Day Covers, Presentation Packs, Trials, Essays, and Faults, and follows the stamp numbering in Jon Aitchison’s “Stamps and Postal History of Lundy Island”.

All images are relatively sized and can be clicked to display larger images.

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