GB Health and Pensions Insurance stamp- any value

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GB Health and Pensions Insurance stamp- any value

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Hi all,

These were in a junk lot I picked up and with a an odd value of 15/2 they seemed quite interesting but my GB Barefoot is ancient and does not have these in, also I cannot find similar anywhere.

Whilst I doubt they are worth much, can anybody confirm a recent value?

The yellow and blue look quite nice together.....

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The 15/2 value is only listed in brackets in my 2010 Barefoot, and it gives the date of issue as 1939 (incorrect since this is dated 1937). Since it's an unrecorded copy (something pretty common with revenues) you could send an email to John Barefoot informing him about it so it will be included in the next edition of the catalogue.

On IBRedGuy, this is priced at £15 (prices with and without a specimen overprint are usually the same).
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Wow, thanks Halfpenny yellow!

IBRedGuy's pages are a great reference thanks for sharing that too.

As you say, I will email John Barefoot and let him know

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Very pretty, and what a WEIRD amount - 15/2d!
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What is the significance of 15/2?

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There were lots of rates for pensions contributions depending on who you were, it was all based on percentages of income and whether you were paid weekly or monthly. The rate also included medical insurance (pre-NHS)

15/2d was quite a high rate, so probably used for a high earner or someone working overseas who would only pay monthly/quarterly.

These stamps were supposed to be affixed to a payments card which was usually kept by the wages department of the employer and there were serious legal penalities for removing them or being found with unused ones without authority... hence why they're not that common.
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Thanks all,

Great to get the background on things like this,

John Barefoot sent a very nice and informative reply:

"Thanks for the scan of the nice 15/2d. I will add it to the list of recorded examples. Probably most of the bracketed items exist; the information is derived from a government archive collection first researched by Booth. They are recorded printing dates but not necessarily FIRST printings, earlier dates may exist. No-one took much interest at the time and it was a difficult period (wartime) but gradually bits and pieces are emerging. The great thing about collecting revenues is that it is still a frontier field and there are plenty of new discoveries to be made.

I'll include you in the list of contributors for the next edition."

The other value was a 1s2d dated 13 Jan 1937 so I will also mention that to John

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Not Bruce wrote:These stamps were supposed to be affixed to a payments card which was usually kept by the wages department of the employer and there were serious legal penalities for removing them or being found with unused ones without authority... hence why they're not that common.
Lots of people in the UK still refer to National Insurance contributions as "paying my stamp" - even though as far as I know, stamps haven't been used for decades. :idea:

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gavin-h wrote:Lots of people in the UK still refer to National Insurance contributions as "paying my stamp" - even though as far as I know, stamps haven't been used for decades. :idea:
The same thing happens in Malta. The NI is still referred to as tħallas il-bolla (pay the stamp) although the actual stamps were withdrawn in the mid-1970s.
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And if you are ever in London at a loose end you can see the

The H M Stationery Office Collection ....

Of Excise Revenue material, is strong in National Savings and National Insurance stamps. Received from HMSO between 1982 and 1992.


at The British Library

I enjoyed going through this before it was sent to the British Library, but had no idea then that these were collected and of course I have no idea now what the collection included. I recall a lot of the sheets were perforated through the stamps rather than between, and that there were various other stamps such as Navy Cigarette stamps. They were printed at the HMSO print works known as Manor Farm, located on the part of the site of the British Empire Exhibition at Wembley. Manor Farm Press was closed on 1 September 1981 owing to its heavy losses.
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Hi Lundy,

Do you still own this pair? If you’re interested in parting with it, just drop me a line. Cheers!

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Lundy wrote:Hi all,

These were in a junk lot I picked up and with a an odd value of 15/2 they seemed quite interesting but my GB Barefoot is ancient and does not have these in, also I cannot find similar anywhere.

Whilst I doubt they are worth much, can anybody confirm a recent value?

The yellow and blue look quite nice together.....

Image

Thanks

Lundy :D
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And when you leave a job in the UK it always used to be referred to as "taking your cards", i.e. taking the cards that had the insurance stamps stuck on, which would be needed by your next employer, to continue the process. The stamps were usually stuck on weekly.

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