All Australian King George V wiki posting thread

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Lesley wrote:Have a block 12 No watermark 1½d Red 17R 37-48 (mint). Probably late run ,going by 17R48.

Would you like me to post all as individuals or only those missing from Wiki ?

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3L33

No recorded flaw

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3L35
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3L38

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3L39

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17 R 37 no water mark.




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17R 38 no water mark.


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17R 39


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17R 40

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17R 41


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17R42


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3-1

a) Top frame broken where it joins crown top;
b) Right side of cross slopes inwards;
c) Split in top frame right projection point.

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29-1

S1

a) Diagonal scratch in lower right colour margin;
b) Compartment marks at top left and top right of cross;

Note: cross compartment marks not on check list.

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Booklet stamps

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30-1

a) 1½mm scoop in top frame starting 2mm left of cross;
b) ‘N’of ‘PENCE’ in CVT white flaw in upper right.

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35-1

a) Compartment mark at top left of cross;
b) Breaks in shading right of Emus back on 3rd 7th 8th and 11th lines down from wattle stem;
c) White mark in right colour margin 8mm below top right corner.


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35-2

a) Compartment mark at top left corner of cross;
b) Right frame scooped into top right corner from 2mm below corner.

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Booklet UCV's

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UCV INV 12

a) Vertical white line starting at tip of lowest right leaf of right wattles through 12 shade lines;
b) Compartment mark at top left of cross.


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UCV INV 22

a) Right frame scooped from 9mm to 11mm from top right corner.

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More booklet

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24-1

a) Compartment line covering cross;
b) Small spur on top frame right of cross;
c) Left frame rough behind lower back of Roo.

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24-2

a) Compartment line at left of cross and dot at right;
b) Break in shading above ‘S’ of ‘AUSTRALIA’. 

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24-4

a) Right frame scooped from 3½mm below top right corner for 4mm;
b) Top frame scooped from 6mm from top right corner for 1½mm;
c) Compartment dot at top left of cross.

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24-5

a) Short compartment mark at top left of cross.

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Booklet

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27-4

a) Compartment marks at top left and right of cross;
b) Right frame shaved into top right corner for 1mm;
c) 2mm scoop in right frame starting 5mm above bottom right corner. 

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Booklet

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23-2

a) Top right corner of cross broken;
b) Compartment dot at top left corner of cross and short line over top frame to right of cross;
c) Vertical white line down where Emus tail meets colour margin.

Note: Other compartment marks at all four corners not on check list.

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Booklet

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32-5

a) Compartment dot at top right of cross. May be a second at top left (variable);
b) Right frame scooped into top right corner for 1mm;
c) Split in bottom frame right of right projection point.

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Booklet

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23-1

a) Compartment line covering cross;
b) Short horizontal line over top left corner;
c) Break in shading behind Emu 8th & 9th line down from wattle stem.

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17R43



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17R44

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17R47.

1 oops out of order !!


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17R48.

Now to find 17R46!!!


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At last, Ha to find the disfigured C in pence

17R46.


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Is there any chance that Australia Post could be prevailed upon to provide some high resolution scans from archival stock to assist in populating the wiki?

It seems that if they have, for example, even a half sheet of some of the higher values, a single scan of that could greatly speed up the populating of the wiki.

I guess there's the question of would it also assist forgers, but any image we add to the wiki already has that risk.

Does anyone have sufficient goodwill with them to make such an approach?

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Before my Harrison imprint block up for the bushfire appeal auction goes to a new home, do you have the stamps in the wiki?

1d reds aren't my speciality, and I note the original certificate states panes 5&6 but plate 4, which someone, not me, has corrected to plate 3.

If you need high res scans I can do them but would like confirmation of the identification.

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Hi Ken,
Your Harrison block is a nice item for the auction and indeed it is Right Plate 3 ....or panes 5 & 6.
The notch in the right frame opposite the emu's leg confirms the position as 6/55.
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Thanks Heldo1


I've just checked the wiki and all the stamps on my block have already been posted.

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From 21st-Century-Auctions ebay website here's an example of BXXIII 5-6. 5 is not in the wiki - the upper compartment is the only flaw.
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Australian King George V 1½d Head Stamp Wiki - Electros 1-4

Quick Wiki Electro 4R

Left Wattles

4R7

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4R21

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4R27 S2

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4R46

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4R58

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4R60 S1

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Crown

4R2

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4R25

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4R39

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4R57

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Right Wattles

4R6 (TRC)

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4R6 (Wattle)

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4R8

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4R27 S2

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4R27 S3

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4R56

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Kangaroo

4R13 S2 (frame lower)

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4R13 S2 (frame upper)

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4R19

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King

4R35

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4R51

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4R55

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4R60

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LVT

4R2

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4R13 S2

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CVT

4R12 (halfpence)

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4R14 (three)

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4R14

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4R53

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RVT

4R12

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4R54

S2
a) Left frame: A shallow scoop 3.75mm long starting 0.5mm from NWC;
b) Right frame: The outside of the frame is irregular from right wattle stem to Emus tail;
c) Bottom frame indented 7mm and 13½mm from bottom left corner;
d) Left frame notched 9mm and 11mm down from top left corner.


This was UCV171 in Bills book, he has confirmed the plating.

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1R35 SMW.


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This image is of an almost perfect used copy of 2d Orange 1R-34 95 (1) 1

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Crack through right side.

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Plate 2
Block of 10 Upper right quadrant
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2R18
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No faults listed but posted for the record.


2R23
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This example is before the listed flaws have developed
a) Diagonal linear flaw from line above jewel band to wattle spray cutting through the second leaflet down at the right of the leaf
b) The base of the second curve above the crown jewel band is joined to the band
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2R24
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18th line counting up of the shading at the left of the left value shield broken to the left of centre, 4 mm from left of frame.
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2R12 Stage 3
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a) Value table: deterioration of the retouch, scattered flaws obliterate parts of the letters and the column of shading at the left of the tablet. A more distinct flaw runs from the white border of the left value shield to the shading just above the F of Four.

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Not the best examples but until we get something better.

1L3
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a) White flaw on lowest leaflet of left wattle spray
b) Break in shading line on temple,10.25 mm from left frame, 9.5mm from upper frame.
(Partially obscured by postmark on this example)

1L14
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White dot below upper right serif on L of Australia

1L25
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a) Variable white dot between tops of A and L of Australia
b) Minute projection from right arm of second A in Australia (variable and not always present)
c) White spot just above tops and between P and O of postage
d) Break at centre of 6th line counting down below emu's tail. (Not visible on this example)

1L34 State 3
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a) obscured by postmark
b) not obvious on this example
c) no longer present
d) Shading at right of right wattle spray appears to have been retouched, appearance varies considerably. The right ends of the 3 lines may be thickened, or there may be a white semi-circle followed by the reappearance of the ends of the 3 lines.

1L43
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1L43
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Both examples
a) Coloured flaw extending upper left leaflet of right wattle spray, not obvious on these examples. (Die transfer flaw 5 clichés have this)
b) Right frame break7.5mm below upper frame

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I might have an upgrade with this one..

6R10

DESCRIPTION

The left value tablet has a break in its left frame opposite the 9th and 10th shading lines up from the bottom frame. There is a coloured dot in the white border of the tablet at the same level giving the appearance of a kink in the white border. A coloured dot joins the right ends of 10th and 11th shading lines up from the bottom frame to the left of the left value tablet.

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Booklet

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1-4

a) Left frame rough;
b) Small scoop out of bottom frame below ‘E’ of ‘PENCE’.

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Not an image, but a missing description:

Halfpenny, Plate 2, R26: Cluster of white spots in the margin under the right 2.

[This is illustrated in the composite image of Dix and Rowntree, labelled as "2R26(b)" but isn't in the main listing. The image for this postion shows the flaw perfectly.]

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Same with halfpenny 2R10, also shown in the composite D&R image but not in the main listing. Again, the image in the wiki shows the flaw clearly. Irritatingly, it's almost the same flaw:

Row of white dots in the margin under the right 2. (Compare with 2R26.)

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Greg Ioannou wrote:
Not an image, but a missing description:

Halfpenny, Plate 2, R26: Cluster of white spots in the margin under the right 2.

[This is illustrated in the composite image of Dix and Rowntree, labelled as "2R26(b)" but isn't in the main listing. The image for this postion shows the flaw perfectly.]

Greg Ioannou wrote:
Same with halfpenny 2R10, also shown in the composite D&R image but not in the main listing. Again, the image in the wiki shows the flaw clearly. Irritatingly, it's almost the same flaw:

Row of white dots in the margin under the right 2. (Compare with 2R26.)
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UCV #Ba18
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1L57 was substituted to cliche 8AL57

March 22 looks more towards plate 8L

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3L5

DESCRIPTION

Small horizontal oval white spot joining the legs of the kangaroo commencing 1mm above the base of the legs.

Narrow break in left frame 9.5mm below top left corner. Sometimes over-inked.

Colour spot in the left white margin joining the frame to the left end of the 3rd free shading line below the left wattle stem.

Very narrow break in the right frame 8mm above the bottom right corner. It is very hard to see in this example.

This example was listed on Ebay by Aussiebanker.

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2L7 Late state

Gash in Kangaroo's tail: perpendicular flaw 4mm long and 5mm wide, beginning on rump and ending as a weakening of the shading lines below the tail.

[The existing image for 2L7 is an early state.]

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Greg,

A copy of 2L7 I posted here on September 2019 is far better example of the crack that includes an area below the left wattle stem.
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Kainnikanada wrote:Greg,

A copy of 2L7 I posted here on September 2019 is far better example of the crack that includes an area below the left wattle stem.
You're right -- it's clearer than the one I posted. I didn't notice it because it isn't in the wiki.

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7R34 Grave accent over P of HALFPENNY (not in multiple printings)
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4L29

DESCRIPTION

Shading at Right of Right Wattle Spray: 20th, 21st and 22nd lines (counting down) distorted and 23rd almost missing at right of fourth bloom.

Shading Behind Kangaroo: Two lines weak with right halves missing behind rump.

[Shows both flaws more clearly than the current example.]

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The stamp shown as 3L20 in the 1½d die 2 KGV wiki is from position 3R45. It also has a fine split from the top of the right frame upper projection point (I have five copies showing this split and several without due to inking).

The stamp below is 3L20 State 3 based on my complete sheet.
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Re: All Australian King George V wiki posting thread

Post by Greg Ioannou »

22L58
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Upper Frame: Irregular flaw, 0.5mm long, in frame, beginning 2.75mm from left corner (variable).
22L58.jpg
(Added because the flaw in my copy has a different shape from the one already in the wiki.)

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