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Is this rank bad cricket or is the wicket sub-standard?
Nothing to do with the pitch... If substandard pitches are made as per ICC, then venue get dropped by BCCI for international matches.

Bad shots plus pitch paranoia has caused this maniac cricket
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England lead!!

I didn't think I'd be saying that at 9am this morning.

England 34-3.
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Is this rank bad cricket or is the wicket sub-standard?
Nothing to do with the pitch... If substandard pitches are made as per ICC, then venue get dropped by BCCI for international matches.

Bad shots plus pitch paranoia has caused this maniac cricket
Plus some good bowling?
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ENG 50/4
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ENG 50/4
17.1 overs
ENG leading by 17 runs currently.
66 / 6 .... England lead by valuable 33 runs
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2 day Test match?!!
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Ashwin gets his 400th Test Wicket in the form of Jofra Archer.
He is the 4th Indian to achieve this feat after Anil Kumble, Kapil Dev and Harbhajan Singh.

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Ashwin reaches 400 test wickets milestone
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Axar Patel 2nd 5 wicket haul of the match ... so total 11 wickets till now..

I feel England have enough on the board :!:
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Ashwin gets his 400th Test Wicket in the form of Jofra Archer.
He is the 4th Indian to achieve this feat after Anil Kumble, Kapil Dev and Harbhajan Singh.
He will surpass Kapil Dev and H. Singh this year in England... with just 30 wickets to go...
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England all out 81.... Tricky 49 runs for India to win .... :twisted:

I reckon it won't be simple :roll:

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What a joke the table has become instead of top 2 teams its % of points and now the below scenario is applicable only if Australia does not play South Africa before June
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Now possible scenarios after today's India win

Australia qualifies if Eng beat India 2- 1 or Eng - India draw 1-1 or 2-2

England qualifies if Eng beat India 3 - 1

India qualifies if India beat Eng 2- 1 or 3 -1
England out of the WTC Final race... but they can crash India's party next week & help Australia :lol:

Now possible scenarios after today's India win

Australia qualifies if Eng - India draw 2-2

India qualifies if India beat Eng 2- 1 or 3 -1
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A pitch that very much favoured the spin bowler. It was definitely an uneven pitch, that is to say it didn't give anything to the batsmen otherwise Root couldn't have taken 3 wickets without conceding a run in three overs.

The first complete test finished in two days since the 1930s. There were some poor batting defences and one or two poor shots - I think Anderson just wanted out to get a chance to bowl, although he didn't.

But the poor defence and the good bowling were shown by both teams. Very strange, and the Indian Cricket Board won;t make anything out of days 3-5
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Root in his post match interview said it's the lacquer / paint coating on the pink ball made it skid rather than blaming the pitch. Kohli said both sides batted poorly.

Ofcourse BCCI would have liked the game to go the stretch but the players were happy for more rest ...

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Yes, Simon Jones said that on Channel 4. He showed a 50-over old pink ball and it looked like a 10-over red ball, apart from the colour.
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England were on the back foot as soon as they announced the teams.
I'm not sure what the management team saw in that pitch and weather forecast to go with 1 spinner and 3 seamers.

Leach and Root bowled wonderfully well this morning but Ashwin and Axar were simply outstanding.

That said, to see England's top order flounder playing defensive shots in the 2nd innings was painful to watch.
Crawley (in the 1st innings) and Stokes (briefly in the 2nd) showed that runs could be scored quickly indeed Bairstow tried to sweep his first ball which suggested they were keen to have a go but the two quick wickets soon put paid to that.
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“I think, more than anything, we shouldn’t have any baggage going into the last game. We have some fine players and batsmen who are more than capable of making big scores,” said Root, at the after match press conference.

Mmmm ... Bit different to playing the backwoods of Sri Lanka.

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England were on the back foot as soon as they announced the teams.
I'm not sure what the management team saw in that pitch and weather forecast to go with 1 spinner and 3 seamers.

Leach and Root bowled wonderfully well this morning but Ashwin and Axar were simply outstanding.

That said, to see England's top order flounder playing defensive shots in the 2nd innings was painful to watch.
Crawley (in the 1st innings) and Stokes (briefly in the 2nd) showed that runs could be scored quickly indeed Bairstow tried to sweep his first ball which suggested they were keen to have a go but the two quick wickets soon put paid to that.
The bowling line-up did seem an odd choice, in Asia. We'll have to wait for the 4th match; Broad and Anderson won't have been tired out after this one; they have three bonus rest days now.
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England were on the back foot as soon as they announced the teams.
I'm not sure what the management team saw in that pitch and weather forecast to go with 1 spinner and 3 seamers.

Leach and Root bowled wonderfully well this morning but Ashwin and Axar were simply outstanding.

That said, to see England's top order flounder playing defensive shots in the 2nd innings was painful to watch.
Crawley (in the 1st innings) and Stokes (briefly in the 2nd) showed that runs could be scored quickly indeed Bairstow tried to sweep his first ball which suggested they were keen to have a go but the two quick wickets soon put paid to that.
The bowling line-up did seem an odd choice, in Asia. We'll have to wait for the 4th match; Broad and Anderson won't have been tired out after this one; they have three bonus rest days now.
They are professional cricketers, if the English strategy revolves around worrying about Anderson being tired, they should put him out to pasture now.

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Eng should replace Bairstow with Burns , rest Anderson & Broad ... play Wood & Bess... Unless rotation policy is stopping them to play Wood who will play next 6 games ( T20's + ODI)

India could rest 1 of their fast bowler and replace with Hardik + play Kuldeep Yadav instead of W Sundar
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You're fishing early this morning Rigs.
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“I think, more than anything, we shouldn’t have any baggage going into the last game. We have some fine players and batsmen who are more than capable of making big scores,” said Root, at the after match press conference.

Mmmm ... Bit different to playing the backwoods of Sri Lanka.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/56194130
England "misread" conditions in their two-day defeat by India in the third Test, says captain Joe Root.

Seventeen wickets fell on an incredible day in Ahmedabad as India won by 10 wickets and inflicted on England their first loss inside two days since 1921.

England picked three seamers and one spinner for the day-night Test but 28 of the 30 wickets fell to spin.

"We tried to exploit that pink ball. Seam looked a really threatening option," Root said.

"We wanted to give our seamers, which we feel is a big strength of ours, a chance to exploit those conditions. Unfortunately it was a slight misread."

Day-night matches, played with a pink ball, often favour seamers, but Jofra Archer was the only England pace bowler to take a wicket.

James Anderson and Stuart Broad, England's leading Test wicket-takers of all time, bowled 19 unsuccessful overs - the first time they have both failed to take a wicket in 120 Tests together.

Root, a part-time off-spinner, claimed 5-8 and Jack Leach, England's only specialist spinner, 4-54 as India collapsed from 114-3 to 145 all out.

Left-arm spinner Axar Patel and off-spinner Ravichandran Ashwin took 11-70 and 7-74 respectively in the match.

"We thought the wicket would hold together better than it did," Root said. "Throughout the practice days it seamed around and swung prodigiously.

"Unfortunately [the fast bowlers] didn't have the impact we anticipated."

England were bowled out for 81 before India chased 49 to wrap up victory not long into the final session. It was the shortest Test since 1935.

Root said the fans inside the stadium "had been robbed" but stopped short of saying the surface was unfit for Test cricket.

"Let's not hide away from the fact we've been outplayed again - we have to accept that," Root said.

"It's a real shame because it's a fantastic stadium, there's 60,000 people come to watch a brilliant iconic Test match. I feel for them.

"They've come to watch Virat Kohli face Jimmy Anderson, Stuart Broad or Jack Leach and watch Ashwin against our top batters. And I almost feel like they've been robbed.

"Instead they've had to watch me get wickets on there, which shouldn't be the case."
You can't say fairer than that; he holds his hands up, and says that England were outplayed.

And the team selection is not his alone, although he must have a big say in it. As was clearly demonstrated on TV a pink ball with extra layers of lacquer doesn't deteriorate as quickly as the red ball, and should therefore have favoured pace and swing.

For the sake of balance:
India captain Virat Kohli: "The result went our way but the quality of batting wasn't at all up to standard by both teams. We were 100-3 and hoping to get more than we needed. There was a lack of application from both sides."
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I disagree Kenneth, Bairstow should stay, as I suspect England will want to make amends and he has 'previous' in backs to the wall situations.

Sibley might make way for Burns but I will say he was a little unlucky today. His technique while somewhat unconventional stood up against Axar...briefly!

Bess should be in for Archer.
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You're fishing early this morning Rigs.
I just think he's getting on at 38.

Even Terry Aldermen, Oz's great swing/seamer, finished last Ashes by 35.

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I disagree Kenneth, Bairstow should stay, as I suspect England will want to make amends and he has 'previous' in backs to the wall situations.

Sibley might make way for Burns but I will say he was a little unlucky today. His technique while somewhat unconventional stood up against Axar...briefly!

Bess should be in for Archer.
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Ashwin gets his 400th Test Wicket in the form of Jofra Archer.
He is the 4th Indian to achieve this feat after Anil Kumble, Kapil Dev and Harbhajan Singh.
He will surpass Kapil Dev and H. Singh this year in England... with just 30 wickets to go...
Just looking at stats... Ashwin with 401 wickets is currently in 16th position in the all time Test wicket list.

He needs 40 wickets to overtake these greats Ambrose, Akram, Harbhajan Singh, Pollock, Hadlee, Herath, Kapil Dev, Steyn... and reach overall 8th position behind Broad.

And in 2021, India play 11 Tests - 6 with England (1 in India & 5 in England), 2 in NZ & 3 in South Africa ... & 1 WTC game if India qualify ...
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In other games across the world, Australia win the 3rd T20 and the series is at 2-1 to NZ..

Zimbabwe beat Afghanistan in their 1st Test Match they have played in 3 years...

The game got over in 2 days :twisted: ... May be Michael Vaughan can find some conspiracy that the pitch was unsuitable to play like he has been ranting since a week.
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England all out 205 on Day 1 of the 4th Test after winning the toss and opting to bat.

India have 10 overs to negotiate

From the ECB: "Jofra Archer is not playing in this Test match due to his ongoing right elbow issue. The ECB medical team will provide an update in due course.

Ben Stokes has had an upset stomach, the same issue that has affected other members the touring party. It is not expected to keep him off the field."
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Tough to watch.

Not withstanding any stomach upsets, the damage was done in 2nd Test and the seeds of doubts were sown.
Playing for spin to a straight ball and stuck in the crease is the story of England's series.
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Hello...India 0-1

Gill out LBW Anderson.
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Gill out LBW Anderson.
Yes, Jimmy is 8 wickets away to pass Kumble's records of 619 wickets and reaching no.3 in the all time list
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India end Day 1 on 24/ 1
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Other updates across the world, 1st T20 WI vs SL - WI won that game but there were 3 records achieved that made the match exciting :D

1. Dananjaya takes a hat trick - 14th time in T20 - victims were Lewis, Gayle, Pooran - All lefties

2. Pollard smashes 6 sixes in an over - became just the third batsman to hit six sixes in an over in international cricket following Herschelle Gibbs in the 2007 World Cup vs NL and then Yuvraj Singh vs England at the 2007 T20 World Cup

3. Courtesy Point 2 - most runs in an over in T20 :mrgreen:

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And at Tea India are still 52 runs behind with only 4 wickets left. Kohli bemused again as he is out for a duck.
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And to t20 nz in the proverbial deep sh!t which sets up an exciting final ...

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For those not watching the India/England match, try and catch the highlights today.

Much has been said of the spin bowlers this series but the ball from Stokes that got Rohit Sharma was an absolute ripsnorter.
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Can’t believe I’m typing this:

Go England !

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I wouldn't clear your diary for 18-22 June just yet...we have to bat again!
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I wouldn't clear your diary for 18-22 June just yet...we have to bat again!
Yes well articulated, for a Pom, I would never rely on English batting.

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2-2. Not NZ 2-1.
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India now 276 for seven wickets
Thanks to brilliant century from Pant and good support from Washington

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Shouldn't have been able to get that far. Unfortunately I was out this morning and unable to watch; must check the highlights time, then I can see the first session that I was asleep for, as well!

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Shouldn't have been able to get that far. Unfortunately I was out this morning and unable to watch; must check the highlights time, then I can see the first session that I was asleep for, as well!
Your right... Brilliant bowling from Stokes & Anderson had India 6 down and then they just let a 100 plus partnership ... Tactics were strange in some parts of the game
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England 10/2 ... need another 150 to avoid an innings defeat

Ashwin crosses Ambrose's total wickets of 405

Jimmy crosses total 900 international wickets .... what a feat .... will he reach 1000 :?:
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Good luck with that!
England 66 for 6 wickets now.

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Good luck with that!
England 66 for 6 wickets now.
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And India win by an innings and 25 runs :D :D
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India win the series 3- 1...

Qualify for the WTC Final with NZ in Lords in June. India also become the No.1 Test side in the ICC Rankings

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I don’t know which team to bag first:

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Has anyone seen this decision given by the 3rd Umpire on the obstructing the field :?: in the latest ODI between WI & Sri Lanka :D

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