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Waco Texas arrived today via ebay & can be crossed of the list above (number 281):
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BigSaint wrote:Well it would appear that the USS Noa was not the only Ship Post Office to backdate cancels:
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Does anyone know where she was at the time of issue & when she might have taken stock of the Project Mercury stamp :?:

Here is another cover that was likely to have been postmarked at the time of splashdown:
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On 20 February 1962, Enterprise was a tracking and measuring station for the flight of Friendship 7, the Project Mercury space capsule in which Lieutenant Colonel John H. Glenn, Jr. made the first American orbital spaceflight.

So I will see if I can narrow down where she was on that day.
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In August, the carrier joined the 6th Fleet in the Mediterranean Sea, returning to Norfolk, Virginia in October. I don't where she was on 9 December 1963, so I don't know if there is any significance of this cover.

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As we have turned the page an updated list of the need 305:
BigSaint wrote:Finally here is the list of the 305 Post Offices that the Project Mercury stamp was delivered to, although the list I was given had 307. :o

Below is the list of post offices I am looking for by State & Town. Kindly note if a "number" on the left hand side is missing, don't panic, it means I have that one:

State Town
1 Alabama Birmingham
2 Alabama Mobille
3 Alabama Montgomery
4 Alaska Anchorage
5 Arizona Phoenix
7 Arkansas Little Rock
8 California Anaheim
9 California Bakersfield
10 California Berkeley
11 California Beverley Hills
12 California Burbank
13 California Burlingame
14 California Culver City
15 California Fresno
16 California Glendale
17 California Inglewood
20 California McClellan AFB
21 California Modesto
24 California Palo Alto
25 California Pasadena
28 California Sacramento
29 California San Bernardino
30 California San Diego
32 California San Jose
33 California San Mateo
34 California Santa Ana
35 California Santa Barbara
36 California Santa Monica
37 California Stockton
38 California Van Nuys
39 California Whittier
40 Colorado Boulder
42 Colorado Denver
44 Connecticut Bristol
45 Connecticut Greenwich
46 Connecticut Hartford
47 Connecticut New Britain
48 Connecticut New Haven
49 Connecticut Stamford
52 D.C. Washington
54 Florida Cocoa Beach
55 Florida Fort Lauderdale
56 Florida Jacksonville
57 Florida Miami
59 Florida Pensacola
60 Florida Saint Petersburg
61 Florida Tallahasse
62 Florida Tampa
63 Florida West Palm Beach
64 Georgia Atlanta
66 Georgia Columbus
67 Georgia Macon
68 Georgia Savannah
70 Idaho Boise
71 Illinois Aurora
72 Illinois Bloomington
77 Illinois Joliet
78 Illinois Melrose Park
79 Illinois Moline
80 Illinois Mount Morris
81 Illinois North Chicago
82 Illinois Oak Park
83 Illinois Peoria
84 Illinois Rockford
85 Illinois Skokie
86 Illinois Springfiled
88 Indiana Crawfordsville
89 Indiana Elkhart
91 Indiana Fort Wayne
92 Indiana Gary
93 Indiana Hammond
96 Indiana Lafayette
97 Indiana South Bend
102 Iowa Sioux City
104 Kansas Kansas City
105 Kansas Shawnee Mission
106 Kansas Topeka
107 Kansas Wichita
108 Kentucky Lexington
109 Kentucky Louisville
110 Louisiana Baton Rouge
112 Louisiana Shreveport
113 Maine Portland
115 Maryland Hagerstown
118 Massachusetts Brookton
119 Massachusetts Clinton
120 Massachusetts Fall River
121 Massachusetts Lawrence
122 Massachusetts Lowell
123 Massachusetts Lynn
124 Massachusetts New Bedford
125 Massachusetts Springfiled
126 Massachusetts Worcester
128 Michigan Battle Creek
131 Michigan Flint
133 Michigan Jackson
134 Michigan Kalamazoo
135 Michigan Lansing
136 Michigan Muskegon
137 Michigan Pontiac
143 Mississippi Jackson
144 Missouri Jefferson City
150 Nebraska Lincoln
151 Nebraska Omaha
152 Nevada Las Vegas
153 Nevada Reno
154 New Hampshire Concord
155 New Hampshire Manchester
156 New Jersey Atlantic City
158 New Jersey Camden
159 New Jersey Clifton
160 New Jersey East Orange
161 New Jersey Elizabeth
162 New Jersey Englewood
163 New Jersey Fairview
164 New Jersey Hackensack
165 New Jersey Jersey City
166 New Jersey Keamy
168 New Jersey New Brunswick
169 New Jersey Passaic
170 New Jersey Paterson
171 New Jersey Plainfield
172 New Jersey Princeton
173 New Jersey Rahway
174 New Jersey Rutherford 1
176 New Jersey Union
177 New Jersey Union City
178 New Jersey West New York
180 New Mexico Roswell
181 New York Albany
182 New York Binghamton
185 New York Elmira
187 New York Freeport
188 New York Garden City
189 New York Great Neck
190 New York Hampstead
191 New York Hicksville
193 New York Long Island City
194 New York Mineola
195 New York Mount Vernon
196 New York Newark
197 New York New Hyde Park
198 New York New Rochelle
200 New York Niagara Falls
201 New York Pleasantville
202 New York Port Washington
203 New York Poughkeepsie
205 New York Rockville Centre
207 New York Staten Island
208 New York Syracuse
209 New York Utica
211 New York Yonkers
213 North Carolina Durham
214 North Carolina Greensboro
215 North Carolina Highpoint
216 North Carolina Raleigh
217 North Carolina Winston Salem
218 North Dakota Fargo
219 Ohio Akron
221 Ohio Cincinatti
223 Ohio Columbus
225 Ohio Lima
227 Ohio Mansfield
228 Ohio Marion
229 Ohio New Concord
230 Ohio Springfiled
232 Ohio Youngstown
233 Oklahoma Lawton
235 Oklahoma Tulsa
240 Pennsylvania Bethlehem
241 Pennsylvania Chester
242 Pennsylvania Easton
244 Pennsylvania Hanover
247 Pennsylvania Norristown
249 Pennsylvania Pittsburg
250 Pennsylvania Reading
252 Pennsylvania Sharon
253 Pennsylvania Upper Derby
254 Pennsylvania Warren
255 Pennsylvania Wilkes Barre
256 Pennsylvania William Port
258 Puerto Rico San Juan
259 Rhode Island Pawtucket
261 South Carolina Charleston
262 South Carolina Columbia
263 South Carolina Greeneville
264 South Dakota Sioux Falls
265 Tennessee Chattanooga
266 Tennessee Kingsport
267 Tennessee Knoxville
269 Tennessee Nashville
270 Texas Abilene
271 Texas Amarillo
272 Texas Austin
273 Texas Beaumont
274 Texas Corpus Christi
283 Utah Ogden
284 Utah Salt Lake City
286 Virginia Alexandria
287 Virginia Arlington
288 Virginia Falls Church
289 Virginia Hampton
290 Virginia Lynchburg
291 Virginia Norfolk
293 Virginia Roanoke
295 Washington Spokane
296 Washington Tacoma
297 West Virginia Charleston
298 West Virginia Huntington
299 Wisconsin Appleton
300 Wisconsin Chippewa Falls
301 Wisconsin Green Bay
304 Wisconsin Oshkosh
305 Wisconsin Racine
306 Wisconsin Superior
307 Wyoming Cheyenne

Please let me know if you have any that are on the list above & pop a scan on this thread for me..

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Updated list of those I have not from the 305 Post Offices:
BigSaint wrote:While these were delivered only to 305 large post offices in the US, it did not stop collectors taking them to other post offices for postmarking.
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Below is a list of those that I have by State & Town:

Alabama Huntsville
Arkansas Summers
California Buena Park
California Buena Park Ghost Town
California Corning
California Cypress
California Lakewood
California Los Angeles Term Annex
California Los Angeles Village Sta
California Mountain View
California Pinole
California Richmond - McVittie An
California Riverside Rubidoux Br
California Sierra Madre
California Torrance
California Tustin
Florida Cape Canaveral
Florida Port Canaveral
Georgia Calhoun
HPO Duluth & Nolo? RPO
HPO Tol & Col HPO
HPO Utica & Bing Trip 2
Maryland Columbia
Massachusetts Boston - Roxbury Sta
Massachusetts Raynham
Massachusetts West Somerville
Michigan Allen Park
Michigan Beech
Michigan Dearborn N E Sta
Michigan Richville
Minnesota North Saint Paul
Minnesota Owatonna
Nebraska Omaha Burlington Sta
New Jersey Colonia
New York Hamburg
New York Levittown
New York New York Church St Sta
New York New York Midtown Sta
New York New York Village Sta
New York Pearl River
New York Pound Ridge
North Carolina Salisbury
Ohio Cambridge
Pennsylvania Haverhill
Tennesee Memphis Naval Base
Texas Idalou
USS Noa (backdated)
USS Enterprise (backdated)
Utah Midvale
Utah Salt Lake City Sugar Hse
Washington Anacortes
Washington Chealis
Washington Mercer Island
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A souvenir cover by the Houston Philatelic Society for the Mercury 7 astronauts visit to Houston Texas on July 4, 1962 cancelled with Houston cds hand cancel:
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A late usage of that cover by "Texbcs" (Barry Salmonsen of Spring Texas) as a fdc for the "Moon Forever" stamp cancelled with the Washington DC fdi slogan hand cancel.
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Three of these were done.
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Greetings,
I have an accumulation of FDCs, of which I'll send images when I have a chance to retrieve them from my off-site storage. I think you'll have a hard time with this, because the post offices listed distributed them to sub offices. I lived in Los Angeles at the time the stamp was issued. They were on sale at Hollywood PO, Canoga Park PO, Reseda PO, Woodland Hills PO - all of which are "Los Angeles post offices". There's no way of knowing, especially with LA, to how many of the "sub-offices" within the district of LA that had been supplied from the main office.

I bought a small quantity at the Canoga Park PO, and drove to Winnetka PO (just outside of Los Angeles city limits, which I think were under either Santa Barabara or even Oakland, California) and mailed covers there to myself. Same for Calabasas CA and Simi CA.

In Virginia, I know that at Herndon, where they were on sale, the Reston PO belongs to the Herndon postmaster. So if the record shows Herndon, you'd need covers postmarked at Reston. Herndon is within the distribution area under Merrifield Regional PO - so who knows how many "sub offices" in that distribution area were supplied by Merrifield, when Merrifield might be the only PO in the district on that list you were able to get.

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Thank you Len for that information. That type of detail is invaluable.

I look forward to seeing your covers here too.

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Picked up Jacksonville, Florida recently on ebay, so number 56 can be crossed off the list now:
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Inside the Jacksonville fdc was this postcard of John Glenn's launch in Friendship 7 that was being used as a stuffer card:
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BigSaint wrote:
BigSaint wrote:John Glenn's recovery ship, USS Noa, but like the previous one, postmarked for Scott Carpenter's flight:
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I have one for John Glenn's flight on it's way from ebay. :)
And it indeed arrived today & signed by John Glenn to boot:
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The issue with this postmark is that the USS Noa was not on the list of post offices that received this stamp & as the USS Noa was in the North Atlantic Ocean at the time, the postmark could not have been applied on that date. Obviously it was backdated for someone, as a favour, perhaps John Glenn, who has signed the "fdc". It has been suggested that the earliest date the USS Noa could have received a supply of these stamps was February 23, 1962.

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PS I wonder if one of those will exist :?:
They do exist:
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I understand that the postal clerk on the USS Noa admitted to backdating about 300 covers for February 20, 1962. I don't know how many were postmarked February 23, 1962.

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PS The search goes on for where USS Noa picked up the Project Mercury stamps. A suggestion has been made that it was Puerto Rico.
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A few a little things I picked up recently from Stampboarder "Librarianc":
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Nice John Glenn autograph next to the block of 4 in the top right corner. :)
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Quite an achievement at the time:
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Nice Artcraft cachet fdc signed by John Glenn. :)
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A pair of uncacheted Project Mercury fdcs signed by John Glenn.
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Plate block of 16 Project Mercury stamps signed in selvage by John Glenn.

Thank you John.

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Brad:

Happy to know that they all arrived safely. I went looking for anything I had on U.S.S,. Noa and when they picked up the Project Mercury stamps, but almost all of my early Mercury, Gemini and Apollo material has been sold. I will keep looking.

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librarianc wrote:Brad:

Happy to know that they all arrived safely. I went looking for anything I had on U.S.S,. Noa and when they picked up the Project Mercury stamps, but almost all of my early Mercury, Gemini and Apollo material has been sold. I will keep looking.

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I pick up the odd Project Mercury fdc from Ray Lattof on ebay who uses the Project Mercury stamps on his mail. After 55 years they still look rather special:
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Here is one that lifted off from Peoria Illinois & splashed down in Allahabad India:
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Dingman's Ferry, PA:
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Dingmans Ferry is an unincorporated community in Delaware Township, Pike County, Pennsylvania, with a population of 7,477 people. It was originally sited on the Delaware River, in an area now included in the Delaware Water Gap National Recreation Area. When the Corps of Engineers acquired the land by eminent domain in the mid-twentieth century for the creation of the Tocks Island Dam project, it relocated the community further up the hill.

Dingmans Ferry is now the name of the post office (ZIP Code 18328) which opened in 1893 & serves Delaware & Porter townships. The post office is located within the borders of Delaware Township. The Dingmans Ferry Bridge is the last privately owned toll bridge on the Delaware River, & one of the few remaining in the country.

Late usage of the Project Mercury stamp here.
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A different Philadelphia slogan cancel "New Hope for Heart - Support the ........". Can't make out faint slogan on dark colour of the stamp:
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Boerger ABC fdc - signed by cachet designer "A. A. Weigall."
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Souvenir cover for Walter Shirra's arrival back on the mainland at Houston Texas after his space flight on October 7, 1962:
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Project Mercury fdc signed by Gordon Cooper with Certificate of Authenticity:
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BigSaint wrote:
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The issue with this postmark is that the USS Noa was not on the list of post offices that received this stamp & as the USS Noa was in the North Atlantic Ocean at the time, the postmark could not have been applied on that date. Obviously it was backdated for someone, as a favour, perhaps John Glenn, who has signed the "fdc". It has been suggested that the earliest date the USS Noa could have received a supply of these stamps was February 23, 1962.

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A splashdown cover with a stamp that was available on USS Noa on February 20, 1962:
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BigSaint wrote:
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I understand that the postal clerk on the USS Noa admitted to backdating about 300 covers for February 20, 1962. I don't know how many were postmarked February 23, 1962.

Brad :D

PS The search goes on for where USS Noa picked up the Project Mercury stamps. A suggestion has been made that it was Puerto Rico.
Still looking but here is another from February 23, 1962 but this one is signed by John Glen, although I suspect it is with an autopen:
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USS Randolph (CV/CVA/CVS-15) was one of 24 Essex-class aircraft carriers built during World War II for the United States Navy. The second US Navy ship to bear the name, she was named after Peyton Randolph, president of the First Continental Congress. Randolph was commissioned in October 1944, & served in several campaigns in the Pacific Theatre of Operations, earning three battle stars. Decommissioned shortly after the end of the war, she was modernized & recommissioned in the early 1950s as an attack carrier (CVA), & then eventually became an antisubmarine carrier (CVS). In her second career she operated exclusively in the Atlantic, Mediterranean, & Caribbean. In the early 1960s she served as the recovery ship for two Project Mercury space missions, including John Glenn's historic first orbital flight.
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In July 1961, Randolph sailed for operations in the Caribbean & served as the recovery ship after splashdown for astronaut Virgil Grissom on America's second manned space flight, a suborbital shot. In February 1962, Randolph was the primary recovery ship for astronaut John Glenn on his flight, the first American orbital voyage in space. After his historic three-orbit flight, he landed safely near the destroyer Noa from which he was transferred, by helicopter, to Randolph:
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Souvenir cover for John Glenn's arrival on USS Randolph following splashdown & recovery by USS Noa.

I wonder if a USS Randolph cover exists with the Project Mercury stamp :?:

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BigSaint wrote:Boerger ABC fdc - signed by cachet designer "A. A. Weigel."
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Looks like he was a collector as well as a designer:
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BigSaint wrote:USS Randolph (CV/CVA/CVS-15) was one of 24 Essex-class aircraft carriers built during World War II for the United States Navy. The second US Navy ship to bear the name, she was named after Peyton Randolph, president of the First Continental Congress. Randolph was commissioned in October 1944, & served in several campaigns in the Pacific Theatre of Operations, earning three battle stars. Decommissioned shortly after the end of the war, she was modernized & recommissioned in the early 1950s as an attack carrier (CVA), & then eventually became an antisubmarine carrier (CVS). In her second career she operated exclusively in the Atlantic, Mediterranean, & Caribbean. In the early 1960s she served as the recovery ship for two Project Mercury space missions, including John Glenn's historic first orbital flight.
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In July 1961, Randolph sailed for operations in the Caribbean & served as the recovery ship after splashdown for astronaut Virgil Grissom on America's second manned space flight, a suborbital shot. In February 1962, Randolph was the primary recovery ship for astronaut John Glenn on his flight, the first American orbital voyage in space. After his historic three-orbit flight, he landed safely near the destroyer Noa from which he was transferred, by helicopter, to Randolph:
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Souvenir cover for John Glenn's arrival on USS Randolph following splashdown & recovery by USS Noa.

I wonder if a USS Randolph cover exists with the Project Mercury stamp :?:

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Well it does but I am still hoping to find one earlier than this one:
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This one is for Walter Shirra's flight for which it does not appear that the USS Randolph had an active role. The search will continue.
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Langley Research Center (LaRC) is the oldest of NASA's field centers, located in Hampton, Virginia. It directly borders Langley Field & the city of Poquoson. LaRC has focused primarily on aeronautical research, but the Apollo lunar lander was flight-tested at the facility. In addition, a number of the earliest high-profile space missions were planned and designed on-site.

Established in 1917 by the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics, in the early 21st century the Center devotes two-thirds of its programs to aeronautics, & the rest to space. LaRC researchers use more than 40 wind tunnels to study improved aircraft & spacecraft safety, performance, & efficiency. Between 1958 & 1963, when NASA (the successor agency to NACA) started Project Mercury, LaRC served as the main office of the Space Task Group. In 1962-1963 this office was transferred to the Manned Spacecraft Center (now the Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center) in Houston, Texas.
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Unknown cachet for this 50th Anniversary Cover cancelled with a nice commemorative "Langley Research Center 50th Anniversary" machine slogan cancel from Hampton, Virginia.

This was a recent addition from ebay.

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From ebay:
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A scarce Fluegel cachet fdc cancelled with the Cape Canaveral machine fdi cancel (from Kansas City).
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BigSaint wrote:From ebay:
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A scarce Fluegel cachet fdc cancelled with the Cape Canaveral machine fdi cancel (from Kansas City).
Oooh nice :D
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Re: WANTED - US 1962, 4¢ Project Mercury (Scott 1193) FDC's

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Hi Brad,

I ran across this bulletin board when searching for something the other night and recognized the user name.

To give you some information regarding questions you asked in this project mercury thread.

1. There are 305 "official" Post Offices that had the stamps delivered to them. But it was not only collectors that drove to other post offices. The Post offices on the list were regional PO's. Many PO's actually took some of their stamps to other PO's. So the list is somewhat artificial. Add on top of that collectors driving to a couple of local post offices and you get a very long list of PO cancels that exist. This was a HUGE postal event and most PO's stayed open into the evening (many ran out of stamps) to accommodate the demand.

2. Of the original 305, there are 20 or 21 that there is no "known" FDC. But I use that term loosely - known is of the active collector universe. And I believe that just 5-6 years ago there was a "discovery" of one of the presumed "missing" PO's.

3. The covers you show that are US Naval covers with the pasted/glued typed cachets are nothing more than add-on cachets. Someone made the effort to go through $1 (and less) US Naval covers (which are often found with just the cancel) and then applied space related cachets. As an interest item - no issue with it. When sold as a "rare" space event cover - Simply not true.

4. USS Noa with 1193 stamps. They are all backdated. USS Noa made port on the 23rd. And yes, the on-board PO backdated at least 300 covers. (Note that there are covers dated Feb 20 with a PM in the cancel that WERE cancelled on the 20th, but of course they are with other stamps). There ARE a few ship covers that contain 1193 that are legitimate as the ships were in port and sailors made the effort to go to the local PO - buy stamps and get back to the ship and find the ship's PM and get him to cancel the covers. The best known example comes from the USS William Mitchell - where there is personal correspondence from the sailor that verifies this is what he in fact did on the 20th of Feb and the ship was in fact in port!

4a. Just as a note - the USS Randolph has examples with 1193 on the 20th - they are all backdated. USS Randolph with other stamps cancelled on the 20th are usually legitimate (quite scarce).

5. AMVETS is an American Veteran's organization that works to improve the life of veterans. They have local chapter's and do a lot of community related activity like granting small college scholarships and holding events for veterans and their families. The poster stamps you reference were issued in 1961 after Shepard's flight - likely as a fund raising type of activity.

6. I believe the first date of the Alan Shepard slogan cancel was July 31 and it was used for a month. BUT its been a long long time since I thought about that cancel and I could very easily be WRONG!

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Hello Doug,

I recognize your "call sign" too & thank you for that information.

1. Thank you for the information about the "Regional Post offices". Stampboarder LN in DC mentioned earlier on this thread specific examples in LA & Virginia. I guess if each post office delivered to another 10 then potentially we have over 3,000 post offices that might have unofficial first day cancels. I guess we will never know for sure but I am having enough trouble collecting the "original" 305, let alone these others that never officially received them in the first place. I did not know that post offices stayed open later but I did wonder about the times on some of the postmarks.

2. I have it that 17 post offices don't exist on first day with I think a couple who for one reason or another did open their packages on the day. I think I might know the person who found that "long lost post office".

3. Thank you for confirming. I suspected as much, I will stay away from these in future.

4. I have the cancels of the 20th & 23rd of USS Noa. I have been trying to find out where Noa docked on the 23rd to pick up the stamps. It has been suggested to me that it was Puerto Rico.

4a. I have not seen a USS Randolph for the 20th with the Project Mercury stamp but have been looking for her earliest date with Scott 1193. You will have seen my USS Enterprise backdated example of the 20th.

5. Thank you for explaining AMVETS.

6. The dates I have have for "Alan Shepard's flight" are July 18, August 15 & August 24. All are from Virginia Beach.

Hope you will continue on Stampboards. The information you have is most interesting & I believe you have a lot to offer our "Space Collectors".

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Hi Brad,
Just to follow up.

1. It was a combination deliver/pickup. I believe that when this event occurred it broke all the PO records for sales in a day. PO's were literally flooded with people that afternoon (announced 3:30pm EST - so 12:30 west coast). So if you were at a PO that didn't receive the stamps and you usually got things from a regional PO 30 minutes away - someone phoned and someone else jumped in the car.

And yes, many collectors took stamps from one PO and drove around sending covers from different PO's. And keep in mind this was a different time. Many collectors knew the local postmaster - and the local postmaster ran the PO - and lets say perhaps used a little more common sense and a little less rigid rules than exist today - and I'm sure many PO's were likely open late at night awaiting people coming with stamps/covers to be cancelled.

4. I believe the NOA port of call was Mayport Naval Station - Jacksonville Florida. But, I'm sure recovery ship collectors are much more knowledgeable than myself in this area. There is a website that I occasionally use as a reference - its run by a fellow Australian - if you do a google search for "recovery ships ross" you'll get the page. The gentleman has bought covers from me occasionally and I believe that if you contact him he would be very willing to share what he knows.

6. First post and I'm already spreading false information! I looked for my slogan cancel reference book but can't find it (which means I likely won't find it any time soon). After thinking about it - I'm sticking with my end date of August 31 (believe many years ago I had/sold a cover that said last day slogan cancel and it was August 31). That sticks in my mind. I found a cover from May 15th so its sometime shortly after the launch to August 31 I believe.

I don't really do much on the internet but since I can now log in I'll try to visit occasionally.

Regards,
Doug

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Doug

Thank you for that extra information.

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I just found this one that shows that Friendship 7 lives on in this Miniature Sheet from the Marshall Islands:
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Signed by the designer Chris Calle, the cover was printed by Unicover Corporation, the makers of Fleetwood Cachets.
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I have a feeling that Marvin the Martian may have done this add on hand painted cachet:
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Does anyone recognise this shield that is on the back of this cover :?:

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A Kate Hayden 2017 handpainted add on cachet:
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I really like her artwork.

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Received this last Friday from Gordon (Gydam) in Tassie:
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Thank you Gordon, some wonderful information here.

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The man himself - PMG Day:
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Brad .... You're welcome.
Used some old blank covers lying around here to create a "double whammy".
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An interesting addition from ebay:
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Genuine postal usage or was it something that just happened to be handy at the time :?:
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A fabulous Aussie cover for the Lights of Perth being left on for Gordon Cooper's fly over of Perth, obtained from Stampboarder suda:
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Pretty dodgy map of Australia on the cachet & what happened to Tasmania :?: :shock:
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A recent ebay acquisition - Compton, California which I have to add to the unofficial Post Office list:
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With this Ebay addition we can remove 209 Utica NY from the official list:
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A great selection of cachet by whomever had this cover postmarked, an Al Van Dahl with his cachet showing mail circling the globe representing John Glenn's orbit of the Earth.

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Very nice advertising example (Milwaukee)! That is one I haven't seen before.

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The Dag Hammarskjöld invert is a 4 cent value postage stamp error issued on 23 October 1962 by the United States Postal Service (then known as the Post Office Department) one year after the death of Dag Hammarskjöld, Secretary-General of the United Nations, in an airplane crash. The stamp, showing the yellow background inverted relative to the image and text, is also known as the Day's Folly after Postmaster General J. Edward Day who ordered the intentional reprinting of the yellow invert commenting, "The Post Office Department is not running a jackpot operation."

The stamp reprint was in effect a deliberate error produced by the Post Office Department to avoid creating a rarity. It was decided to reprint 40 million of the inverted stamps after the discovery of the error so there would be no rarity factor in the inverted stamp and to prevent people profiting from the Postal Service's mistake. The reprints were issued to the public on 16 November and described as a Special Printing.
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Been a while since I have been able to show you an acquisition of a new Post Office:
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Haltom City is a city that is part of the Dallas-Fort Worth region and inside Tarrant County, Texas. Haltom City is a inner suburb of Fort Worth, a principal city of the DFW Metroplex. The city is 6 miles from Downtown Fort Worth, 30 miles from the American Airlines Center in Dallas, and 20 miles from the Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport in Irving. Haltom is surrounded almost entirely by Fort Worth, North Richland Hills, Watauga, and Richland Hills.

Only one problem I don't have it listed as having a Post Office. :?

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