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That's where the dreamer money is atm. It's like a contagion since one joker listed some used common KGVI definitive on eBay months ago and now everyone finds they have one in the old school-boy album which they expect $10k for once they list it. :x .

I used to do an ebay search by highest value first, but now all you get is dreamer dross from that search.
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Someone is about to purchase this gem on eBay:
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There are a few other genuine stamps in the lot, but if they're hoping the above in genuine they're in for disappointment

Here's the link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266237025839?hash=item3dfcf69e2f:g: ... R9iT0OD-YQ
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RedKiwi wrote: 08 May 2023 01:52 Someone is about to purchase this gem on eBay:

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There are a few other genuine stamps in the lot, but if they're hoping the above in genuine they're in for disappointment
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norvic wrote: 08 May 2023 02:10
RedKiwi wrote: 08 May 2023 01:52 Someone is about to purchase this gem on eBay:

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There are a few other genuine stamps in the lot, but if they're hoping the above in genuine they're in for disappointment
Please post the link and the user name with the image so that it is searchable
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Thank you.
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And, to be fair to the seller, they say in the description that they have doubts about that Chalon.
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Someone has just bid £633 for a modern reproduction of GB £5 orange telegraph stamp. The seller states "WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET IF ONE STAMP IN PICTURED THAT IS WHAT YOU GET I do not own a catalog or a watermark tool or even a perf gauge I make no claims to the identity of any stamp just an occasional scott number other than the country the stamp is from"

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deltic1575 wrote: 08 May 2023 05:58 Someone has just bid £633 for a modern reproduction of GB £5 orange telegraph stamp. The seller states "WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET IF ONE STAMP IN PICTURED THAT IS WHAT YOU GET I do not own a catalog or a watermark tool or even a perf gauge I make no claims to the identity of any stamp just an occasional scott number other than the country the stamp is from"


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Here is the original listing which has ended.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QV-TELEGRAPHS-High-Value-5-Orange-Superb-1881-/354753626368
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DAMN !!!! and out of the 12 bidders 4 bid OVER £400 !!!! :o

Never a good sign when they say "Found in inheritance album"

I'll have to keep my eye on this to see if the buyer leaves positive feedback
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Did the buyer not realize that this is a modern reproduction?
Viewing the back does not even have any sign of the watermark these stamps ought to have.
£633,00 for a reproduction?. The seller is smiling all the way to the bank. And I do believe they know exactly what they are selling, regardless of what the description says. It's all part of their strategy.
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I’m sure the seller does know. But the novices (including me) can easily get lost thinking there’s a bargain. Not that I have that much money. I read another thread about a seller called roostamps, selling false used items, well done to the person there who called them out.
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FakeBay lives up to its name with this fake merchant - aret--41 - £633 via 23 bids from brain dead cretins.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/354753626368

The MORON bidders were out in force on a modern NO WATERMARK £5 Orange QV Telegraph with a very clearly fake cancel. These have THREE clear watermark impression on each stamp of course.



QV TELEGRAPHS High Value £5 Orange Superb 1881

Found in inheritance album
NO CERTIFICATE
Bought as pictures

On 30-Apr-23 at 19:56:21 BST, seller added the following information:

WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET IF ONE STAMP IN PICTURED THAT IS WHAT YOU GET I do not own a catalog or a watermark tool or even a perf gauge I make no claims to the identity of any stamp just an occasional scott number orther than the country the stamp is from PLEASE READ ENTIRE DESCRIPTION IT IS THE BUYERS RESPONSIBILITY TO READ AND UNDERSTAND THE ITEM PAGE IN FULL.



Now the FakeBay spiv aret--41 has moved onto KEVII with this similar joke on copy paper it looks like. Dipped in tea, to try and make it look a bit old. It is up to £10 and 'has not met reserve' so he clearly is Bunny Hunting.

Sole description is -


'A Fount in an album 1941 of Major'



https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/354772380121


Please report this to seller aret--41 - request he amend heading to say REPLICA, as clearly required by ebay rules, and ask him to cancel sale on the £5, and re-offer that as a REPRODUCTION, and also report it to FakeBay ... these purveyor of fakes such as aret--41 must be nipped in the bud early.

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Oh dear. Really & properly oh dear. French ebayer pti477 seems to have been drinking a bit too much of the vin ordinaire...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404276255897

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Asking $1900 for a stamp worth less that $1.
Further down the page the seller says it has been hinged.
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The Pom wrote: 13 May 2023 07:10 Oh dear. Really & properly oh dear. French ebayer pti477 seems to have been drinking a bit too much of the vin ordinaire...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404276255897


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If this was really worth 80,000 euro one might be disaapointed that it was entrusted to a delivery service costing only 7 euro.

In fact, not including free local postage seems somewhat Scrooge-like. That one eleven thousandth profit curtailed must be really important.
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Only one of these is a 1 penny red, and they're worth about a penny. Otherwise spot on from sunshinepine, who has clearly been out in the sun for a bit too long.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394628024897
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Perhaps we should give a rating for each dreamer based on price divided by value (obviously need to exclude things that are truly worthless !). How about this one at 6000:1 ?
KGVI 2½d - Yours for only £300
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/195779683947?hash=item2d9560e66b

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A nice rating suggestion by Jon E. However, rather than reward the dreamers' inflated prices with inflated ratings, it might be more appropriate to use the formula

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That would yield
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Here are two consecutive eBay offers to sell Zanzibar 5¢ postage due (Sc J18).
The first is by a dreamer, the second by a realistic seller:

Two different sellers listing Zanzibar Sc J18 for sale on eBay
Two different sellers listing Zanzibar Sc J18 for sale on eBay
Taking the second seller's list price as an informed buyer's valuation:
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The World is full of them - they walk amongst us !!!

https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/1479738342/rare-king-george- ... la=1&gao=1&
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Current eBay listing
Current eBay listing
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That would yield
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Reliability = 0.65/10000 = 0.000065
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for this remarkable offering:
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I have several hundred of those supposedly rare stamps worth several thousand dollars ( allegedly). Does anyone know someone, prepared that price to buy one. I will happily sell them lots.
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Waffle wrote: 05 Jun 2023 17:47 I have several hundred of those supposedly rare stamps worth several thousand dollars ( allegedly). Does anyone know someone, prepared that price to buy one. I will happily sell them lots.
Maybe offer them to the seller of the item, at a nice discount, say at a mere 10% of his valuation, at $1000 he should buy the lot!
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Overpriced examples of this stamp are, much like the stamp itself, ten a penny.

This one is worth it for the description, though.

draytongardencollectiblesandantiques could be one to watch. Not if you want to buy stamps, admittedly.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204361225973
Introducing a timeless piece of history and an exceptional potential investment opportunity: the rare Australian postage stamp featuring King George VI. Immerse yourself in the captivating era of the late 1930s to early 1940s with this remarkable collector's item.


King George VI, known for his resilience and leadership during tumultuous times, ascended to the throne in 1936. His reign marked an era of change and uncertainty, making this postage stamp a true relic of historical significance. Crafted with exquisite attention to detail, it encapsulates the essence of an era that shaped nations.


Dated between 1937 and 1942, this Australian stamp represents a pivotal period in global history. Its scarcity, coupled with its association with a revered monarch, ensures its enduring value. Investing in this rarity offers you a unique opportunity to own a tangible piece of history while potentially securing a wise financial venture.


Don't miss the chance to own this remarkable Australian postage stamp, a testament to King George VI's legacy and a sound investment choice. Whether you're an avid collector, a history enthusiast, or an astute investor, this stamp is an essential addition to your portfolio.
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I happened to read this in the presence of my wife, and explained the issue, and read the description.

I then showed her the picture to show that it was just a common stamp.

“It’s missing its corner!”

Me, on closer inspection as I hadn’t really looked.
“No, it’s folded over.”

“For that price I think I would have flattened it out.”

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I wanted to offer 5p for it, but the minimum is 99p and I don’t want to waste a quid in case it’s accepted 😂
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The Pom wrote: 08 Jun 2023 07:01 Overpriced examples of this stamp are, much like the stamp itself, ten a penny.

This one is worth it for the description, though.

draytongardencollectiblesandantiques could be one to watch. Not if you want to buy stamps, admittedly.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204361225973
Introducing a timeless piece of history and an exceptional potential investment opportunity: the rare Australian postage stamp featuring King George VI. Immerse yourself in the captivating era of the late 1930s to early 1940s with this remarkable collector's item.


King George VI, known for his resilience and leadership during tumultuous times, ascended to the throne in 1936. His reign marked an era of change and uncertainty, making this postage stamp a true relic of historical significance. Crafted with exquisite attention to detail, it encapsulates the essence of an era that shaped nations.


Dated between 1937 and 1942, this Australian stamp represents a pivotal period in global history. Its scarcity, coupled with its association with a revered monarch, ensures its enduring value. Investing in this rarity offers you a unique opportunity to own a tangible piece of history while potentially securing a wise financial venture.


Don't miss the chance to own this remarkable Australian postage stamp, a testament to King George VI's legacy and a sound investment choice. Whether you're an avid collector, a history enthusiast, or an astute investor, this stamp is an essential addition to your portfolio.
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For the record:
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Reference point for informed buyer
Reference point for informed buyer
Seller draytongardencollectible dreamer
Seller draytongardencollectible dreamer
Using current exchange rate, GBP 1.00 = AUD 1.87
Reliability = 0.000081
Reliability = 0.000081
This reliability calculation errs on the generous side, because the
informed buyer's reference stamp is mint, lightly hinged, surely
making it worth more than a postally used example.
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Footnote: Asking price £4291.00 is a remarkable figure in its own right. Perhaps arrived at by astrology? Alternatively, by consultation with used car salesperson? By contrast, the postage of 75p seems plausible. If the seller waived the postage, that would represent a 0.017% discount. ;)
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The publicity here seems to be doing him some good - 3 watchers this morning!
He must be rubbing his hands!!
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Bill H UK wrote: 08 Jun 2023 18:11 The publicity here seems to be doing him some good - 3 watchers this morning!
He must be rubbing his hands!!

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Is this the same one, the price is different - close but not the same.
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norvic wrote: 08 Jun 2023 18:42 Is this the same one, the price is different - close but not the same.
Yes. The buy it now price has been revised .... upwards :lol: :roll: :lol:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/rvh/204361225973
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204361225973?autorefresh=true

Same stamp, same seller, same mad writeup.......Can't explain the price difference?!?!!?
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CMJ wrote: 08 Jun 2023 18:53
norvic wrote: 08 Jun 2023 18:42 Is this the same one, the price is different - close but not the same.
Yes. The buy it now price has been revised .... upwards :lol: :roll: :lol:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/rvh/204361225973
Maybe because so many of us are watching it!!

The "offers" of 10% off will be coming soon :lol:
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There appears to be something in the water lately as regards KGVI issues; check out this dreamer lot for the bargain-bin price of CA$15,500/AU$17,386/US$11,618. But hey, they'll kick in UPS shipping for FREE:
Dreamer lot of KGVI stamps
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From the description:
stamp_coin_world wrote:An extremely rare set of Australian stamps. PURCHASE INCLUDES ALL 14 STAMPS shown in picture!


1 x king George VI 2D

2 x king George VI 2.5D

2 x king George VI 3.5D

2 x kangaroo 1/2D

2 x koala 4D

1 x kookaburra 6D

2 x tiger cat 8D

1 x lyrebird 1 shilling

1 x gator 2 shilling


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CMJ wrote: 08 Jun 2023 18:53
norvic wrote: 08 Jun 2023 18:42 Is this the same one, the price is different - close but not the same.
Yes. The buy it now price has been revised .... upwards :lol: :roll: :lol:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/rvh/204361225973

Haven't you folks heard of INFLATION over there? 8-) 8-) 8-)
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Bill H UK wrote: 08 Jun 2023 18:55 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204361225973?autorefresh=true

Same stamp, same seller, same mad writeup.......Can't explain the price difference?!?!!?
They told us we're experiencing inflation. Now we have proof. ;)
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polisciguy2011 wrote: 08 Jun 2023 13:50
The Pom wrote: 08 Jun 2023 07:01 Overpriced examples of this stamp are, much like the stamp itself, ten a penny.

This one is worth it for the description, though.

draytongardencollectiblesandantiques could be one to watch. Not if you want to buy stamps, admittedly.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204361225973
Introducing a timeless piece of history and an exceptional potential investment opportunity: the rare Australian postage stamp featuring King George VI. Immerse yourself in the captivating era of the late 1930s to early 1940s with this remarkable collector's item.


King George VI, known for his resilience and leadership during tumultuous times, ascended to the throne in 1936. His reign marked an era of change and uncertainty, making this postage stamp a true relic of historical significance. Crafted with exquisite attention to detail, it encapsulates the essence of an era that shaped nations.


Dated between 1937 and 1942, this Australian stamp represents a pivotal period in global history. Its scarcity, coupled with its association with a revered monarch, ensures its enduring value. Investing in this rarity offers you a unique opportunity to own a tangible piece of history while potentially securing a wise financial venture.


Don't miss the chance to own this remarkable Australian postage stamp, a testament to King George VI's legacy and a sound investment choice. Whether you're an avid collector, a history enthusiast, or an astute investor, this stamp is an essential addition to your portfolio.
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That's written so earnestly that I wonder if they actually believe what they're hocking. :shock:
It reads like it has been written by the person who does the Franklin Mint type "Precious hand-crafted heirloom for you to treasure for always" descriptions for worthless tat.
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The Pom wrote: 08 Jun 2023 23:42

It reads like it has been written by the person who does the Franklin Mint type "Precious hand-crafted heirloom for you to treasure for always" descriptions for worthless tat.
It does, and if you check out his other items you'll find some similar florid prose about some middling amateur watercolours he's trying to flog.

Because of this thread, he'll be seeing his Views and Watchers rattling up, and probably getting quite excited.
Now, if all stampboarders were to visit and 'watch' it........ :mrgreen:
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Yet he doesn't bother with the 1p & 99p items.

I wonder if it is two people at the business, experimenting to see what turns out best:

- low price with virtually no description

- High price with florid description that defies belief.
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I wonder if that description has been written by ChatGPT?
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That's what I thought too.
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emason wrote: 09 Jun 2023 02:06 I wonder if that description has been written by ChatGPT?
Not according to the plagiarism checker...
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It's just guff :lol: :lol:

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More like "no intelligence" than "artificial intelligence" if you ask me.
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It would be interesting to know if anyone of these dreamers' 'gems' has ever been sold on eBay, say, in the last 20 years.
I don't think so... :D
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They never sell. Eventually, like an old soldier, they just fade away.
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I've messaged the seller. I look forward to their response....
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I hope he replies :lol:
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This eBay seller was arrested and jailed for selling fake stamps. Here's article's link.
https://www.desiblitz.com/content/man-jailed-for-washing-and-selling-stamps-on-ebay

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Re: eBay and Other On-Line Dreamers - A Photo Lot Compendium

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Rog wrote: 09 Jun 2023 23:40 I hope he replies :lol:


Any reply would likely continue in the florid tradition, such as


Esteemed Sir,
Thank you for you most welcome enquiry. We are delighted to assure you of the truly unique and remarkable opportunity that our once-in-a-lifetime offer represents. You can be the envy of long established philatelists whose collections have an open space where this most rare and desirable stamp belongs {etc. etc.}


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